Re: [homenet] security work items - what do we want to do?

[Michael Richardson]

Stephen Farrell  wrote:
> - Does this sound roughly right or off the wall?

It sounds right.
I think that bootstrap of security should become an recharter item in the
future.  Some kind of BCP on interactions with MUD, SUIT, etc. IN THE
FUTURE. NOT NOW.

> 2. We have this milestone in our charter:

> "Nov 2018 - Submission of the perimeter security draft
> to the IESG as Informational RFC"

Yes.  Are the authors still engaged?
I think I've missed the last three homenet WG sessions due to conflicts.
I find that the ML is too frequently ratholed when it isn't silent.

> - Does the homenet wg need to profile use of those
> security mechanisms, for example to document a way to
> establish initial keying material that we'd like to see
> implemented when those protocols are used in home networks?

> - If so, (and without yet getting into discussions about ToFU
> etc) do we have people who are interested in working on
> that?

Yes, but not yet.

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[homenet] security work items - what do we want to do?

[Stephen Farrell]

Hi homenet folks,

Barbara and I were chatting about the security work that
may need to be done in the homenet wg in the coming months
and here are our thoughts on that. We'd like to get folks'
reactions to those:

- Does this sound roughly right or off the wall?
- If the former, do we think it's doable?
- If so, who'd like to help do the work etc.

It seems there are three possible work items for us
to consider:

1. Documenting the security considerations and any
security mechanisms needed for draft-ietf-homenet-simple-naming.
We assume that that work will be done as a normal part
of developing that draft, so is, or will be, in-hand.

2. We have this milestone in our charter:

"Nov 2018 - Submission of the perimeter security draft
 to the IESG as Informational RFC"

- Do we still agree that this is a good milestone?
- If not, why not?
- If so, do we have people who are willing to work on
  this?

3. HNCP and Babel define some security mechanisms that can
be used to secure those protocols, and more work is being
done at the moment in the babel WG on uses of HMAC and DTLS
with Babel.

- Does the homenet wg need to profile use of those
  security mechanisms, for example to document a way to
  establish initial keying material that we'd like to see
  implemented when those protocols are used in home networks?
- If so, (and without yet getting into discussions about ToFU
  etc) do we have people who are interested in working on
  that?

If possible, it'd be great to get a sense of the WG's
ideas on the above before we construct an agenda for
our meeting in London in March (which is not that far
away now).

Thanks,
Barbara & Stephen



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[homenet] homenet - Update to a Meeting Session Request for IETF 101

[IETF Meeting Session Request Tool]

An update to a meeting session request has just been submitted by Stephen 
Farrell, a Chair of the homenet working group.


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Working Group Name: Home Networking
Area Name: Internet Area
Session Requester: Stephen Farrell

Number of Sessions: 1
Length of Session(s):  1.5 Hours
Number of Attendees: 120
Conflicts to Avoid: 
 First Priority: v6ops intarea dnsop dnssd 6man babel saag tls
 Second Priority: mptcp lpwan



People who must be present:
  Stephen Farrell
  Terry Manderson
  Barbara Stark

Resources Requested:

Special Requests:
  Please try to ensure that the homenet session happens after the babel session 
if thats possible. Thanks.
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