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The primary function of this particular orchestra is to support an exceptionally talented choral/vocal group. Independence day usually features set pieces that build to a definite climax. Since we are balancing a standard rhythm section of electric guitar, bass drums, and keyboards, there are section microphones so a remote sound engineer can balance the sound as needed. Under these conditions, I usually opt to have the horn section play smaller horns. I think smaller horns have more tonal flexibility, and harmony work, especially at lower dynamic level, can be made to 'sparkle.' The soprano soloist who did four of the six shows, has a strong local following for her operatic virtuosity. Since she is a major attracting force, it has become tradition for the orchestra to challenge her to reach new highs. In the US, we actually have two national anthems: 'America the Beautiful', for the audience to sing, and 'Star Spangled Banner', which is traditionally a showpiece for virtuoso performance, often reflecting the best of the myriad of cultures that is the United States. For this occasion, we use a set of Chambers model horns that epitomize the concept of the 'big' American sound. There aren't a lot of times when playing at this power is acceptable, but this is one, and it warrants a change of equipment to do it. With all the favorable comments we get after the performance, there is a temptation to use the big horns all the time, but then it wouldn't be a special treat any more. Hans wrote on 7/3/2004, 2:18 PM: Why you like to play the roof off the place ? Why are many of you so much interested in playing louder than loud ? Play the anthems whatever NOBLE, POWERFUL , but never ordinary loud, which is disgusting anti musical, - even in band music. You are absolutely right complaining against these horrible if not idiotic tiny mouth pieces, coming with many band horns .. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of william bamberg Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 10:11 PM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] wraps It is very common in the US to find young students playing very large horns with very small mouthpieces The hall will be full with 4000 people, and we plan to take the roof off the place. Hans wrote on 7/3/2004, 11:23 AM: Can you tell me, what you mean playing big ? I thought playing beautifully be the target. == ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/billbamberg%40aol.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] wraps
Ky Hayes wrote: I do know that the geyer is a smaller wrap, The wrap of most Geyer-wrap horns is actually physically larger in diameter than Kruspe-wrap horns. This measurement makes essentially no difference to the person holding the horn, short or tall. The bell throat of a Geyer horn is generally smaller. A person with small hands may find hand-stopping easier in a smaller bell, but I know many small-handed persons who have adapted perfectly well to hand-stopping in a larger bell throat. The only difference in size that might make a big difference to a small-handed person is the positioning of the valve levers. While this might be worth considering in your purchase, remember that a competent repair person can probably *make* any horn easier to hold. There was an article in the Horn Call a few years back detailing how Prof. Michelle Stebleton at Florida State University was able to have her horn modified to play comfortably with her small hands. Bottom line: play the horn that make you *sound* the best. but the kruspe will give a big sound, If you are inferring that the Yamaha 667 (or any other Geyer-wrap horn) won't give a big sound, I have one word: hogwash. Any horn will give you as big a sound as you want it to make. Greg ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] wraps
If you're a smaller player, and you'll only have one horn for everything, you'll probably be best served with a medium bell horn. The smaller size should allow you to choose a horn with good range and agility, in exchange for a little overall power. Try lots of horns, even if they're a friend's, until you can clearly sense the trade off between bigger horn power, and smaller horn agility. If you're not already playing on a mouthpiece with a large diameter rim, you might consider switching to one. A large mouthpiece allows using more muscle, and will allow a medium throat horn to play big, and with better control but, it will take a month to get back, and then exceed, your old high register. Ky Hayes wrote on 7/2/2004, 7:17 PM: Hello! I'm new so I thought I'd ask a question. Well, very soon I'll be buying a yamaha and I'm caught between the 667 and the 668. The question is what are the advantages/disadvantages/differences in the geyer and kruspe wrap. I'm a rather short individual w/ small hands so I don't want anything that I wouldn't be able to control easy. I do know that the geyer is a smaller wrap, but the kruspe will give a big sound, so I'll let you guys help me out from there. -Kyle - Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/billbamberg%40aol.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] wraps
Can you tell me, what you mean playing big ? I thought playing beautifully be the target. == -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of william bamberg Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 6:04 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] wraps If you're not already playing on a mouthpiece with a large diameter rim, you might consider switching to one. A large mouthpiece allows using more muscle, and will allow a medium throat horn to play big, and with better control but, it will take a month to get back, and then exceed, your old high register. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] wraps
but the kruspe will give a big sound, If you are inferring that the Yamaha 667 Greg, It would be you who inferred; he would have implied. He implies and, in guessing his meaning, you infer. This message brought to you by someone who failed 12th grade English twice. jrc ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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It is very common in the US to find young students playing very large horns with very small mouthpieces, often with a rim smaller than 16 mm. At a music festival I helped at recently, here in California, almost all the horn players were playing school owned 8Ds. In this group of Orange County middle and high school students, I could find no one with a mouthpiece even as big as the Bach 7 that comes with the horn. I'm probably over reacting, but many of these students had capabilities that were seriously frustrated by small mouthpieces that tribal myth had convinced them they need to achieve the high register. I have two of them switched to larger mouthpieces from about a month ago, and they can't believe how much easier playing has become as they develop strength. A Conn 8D played with a tiny mouthpiece sounds amazingly like a flute. As far as comparing big to beautiful, I'm just leaving to play the first two of six 4th of July shows. This is where I love to play my heavy bell Chambers. We're doing Battle Hymn with full chorus, and Lynette, who sings lead for the Pacific Opera, will be doing our special arrangement of the National Anthem. The hall will be full with 4000 people, and we plan to take the roof off the place. Hans wrote on 7/3/2004, 11:23 AM: Can you tell me, what you mean playing big ? I thought playing beautifully be the target. == -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of william bamberg Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 6:04 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] wraps If you're not already playing on a mouthpiece with a large diameter rim, you might consider switching to one. A large mouthpiece allows using more muscle, and will allow a medium throat horn to play big, and with better control but, it will take a month to get back, and then exceed, your old high register. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/billbamberg%40aol.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] wraps
Why you like to play the roof off the place ? Why are many of you so much interested in playing louder than loud ? Play the anthems whatever NOBLE, POWERFUL , but never ordinary loud, which is disgusting anti musical, - even in band music. You are absolutely right complaining against these horrible if not idiotic tiny mouth pieces, coming with many band horns .. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of william bamberg Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 10:11 PM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] wraps It is very common in the US to find young students playing very large horns with very small mouthpieces The hall will be full with 4000 people, and we plan to take the roof off the place. Hans wrote on 7/3/2004, 11:23 AM: Can you tell me, what you mean playing big ? I thought playing beautifully be the target. == ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] wraps
Hello! I'm new so I thought I'd ask a question. Well, very soon I'll be buying a yamaha and I'm caught between the 667 and the 668. The question is what are the advantages/disadvantages/differences in the geyer and kruspe wrap. I'm a rather short individual w/ small hands so I don't want anything that I wouldn't be able to control easy. I do know that the geyer is a smaller wrap, but the kruspe will give a big sound, so I'll let you guys help me out from there. -Kyle - Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
