[HOT] Tasking Manager is Down

2014-03-29 Thread Mark Cupitt
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager is Down

2014-03-29 Thread Dražen Odobašić
Hi,

it's restarted now... looking into what was the problem

Dražen

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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager is Down

2014-03-29 Thread Mark Cupitt
Hi Drazen, I think it was me, I was trying to create a task using an OSM
Relation.
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On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Dražen Odobašić dodo...@geoinfo.geof.hrwrote:

 Hi,

 it's restarted now... looking into what was the problem

 Dražen

 On 29.03.2014 07:19, Mark Cupitt wrote:
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager is Down

2014-03-29 Thread Mark Cupitt
Hi Drazen, if you want to try it, the relation Id was 3601608
Cheers
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 Hi Drazen, I think it was me, I was trying to create a task using an OSM
 Relation.
 Cheers
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 On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Dražen Odobašić 
 dodo...@geoinfo.geof.hrwrote:

 Hi,

 it's restarted now... looking into what was the problem

 Dražen

 On 29.03.2014 07:19, Mark Cupitt wrote:
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  For the Admins for the Tasking Manager, it appeared to go down at 0600
 UTC
 
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager is Down

2014-03-29 Thread Dražen Odobašić
Yeah ok... you can do that... BUT only if you keep tile numbers below 1000, what
was the desired zoom level for that task ?


On 29.03.2014 07:55, Mark Cupitt wrote:
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager is Down

2014-03-29 Thread Mark Cupitt
Zoom Level 11, should only be about 150 or so tiles I would think. Let me
know if I got that wrong
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On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Dražen Odobašić dodo...@geoinfo.geof.hrwrote:

 Yeah ok... you can do that... BUT only if you keep tile numbers below
 1000, what
 was the desired zoom level for that task ?


 On 29.03.2014 07:55, Mark Cupitt wrote:
  Hi Drazen, if you want to try it, the relation Id was 3601608
  Cheers
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager is Down

2014-03-29 Thread Dražen Odobašić
On 29.03.2014 08:02, Mark Cupitt wrote:
 Zoom Level 11, should only be about 150 or so tiles I would think. Let me
 know if I got that wrong
 Cheers
 


Ok, found out what is the problem... relation is just too complex... so it can't
be quickly processed by the system... eventually the system will just give up..

I should really look into how to limit 'max processing time per request' and
kill the request, not sure what is happening in the source code.

You should manually draw the outlines... if you can

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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager is Down

2014-03-29 Thread Mark Cupitt
Thanks Drazen, will do it manually. Thanks for looking into it. Cheers Mark


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On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Dražen Odobašić dodo...@geoinfo.geof.hrwrote:

 On 29.03.2014 08:02, Mark Cupitt wrote:
  Zoom Level 11, should only be about 150 or so tiles I would think. Let me
  know if I got that wrong
  Cheers
 


 Ok, found out what is the problem... relation is just too complex... so it
 can't
 be quickly processed by the system... eventually the system will just give
 up..

 I should really look into how to limit 'max processing time per request'
 and
 kill the request, not sure what is happening in the source code.

 You should manually draw the outlines... if you can

 Dražen


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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager is Down

2014-03-29 Thread Dražen Odobašić
On 29.03.2014 08:02, Mark Cupitt wrote:
 Zoom Level 11, should only be about 150 or so tiles I would think. Let me
 know if I got that wrong
 Cheers



And create an issue on the
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager/issue for the specific use case :)

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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager is Down

2014-03-29 Thread Mark Cupitt
Hi Drazen, I'm getting a server error creating it manully.
Cheers
Mark




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On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Dražen Odobašić dodo...@geoinfo.geof.hrwrote:

 On 29.03.2014 08:02, Mark Cupitt wrote:
  Zoom Level 11, should only be about 150 or so tiles I would think. Let me
  know if I got that wrong
  Cheers



 And create an issue on the
 https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager/issue for the specific use
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Re: [HOT] Guinea Ebola Outbreak, Mapping the broader area

2014-03-29 Thread nicolas chavent
Thanks Jean-Guilhem for making possible the extension of OSM-usable Landsat
8 imagery to the whole Guinea and Sierra Leone for this crisis response at
the same two URLs :

tms[19]:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/guinee_c10_l8_pxs432/
{zoom}/{
x}/{y}

tms[19]:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/guinee_c10_l8_pxs753/
{zoom}/{x}/{y}



Merci à Jean-Guilhem pour avoir rendu possible la mise à disposition des
images Landsat 8  sur une zone maintenant étendue à toute la Guinée Conakry
et le Sierra Léone dans le cadre de cette réponse de crise.

tms[19]:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/guinee_c10_l8_pxs432/
{zoom}/{
x}/{y}

tms[19]:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/guinee_c10_l8_pxs753/
{zoom}/{x}/{y}


++
Nico




On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 12:56 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.comwrote:

  Dear All,

 The Landsat-8 mosaics have been extended to 22 images, and now cover all
 of Guinea and of Sierra Leone (in addition to the same parts of Liberia as
 before, and border areas of other neighboring countries).

 The URL are unchanged. You may need to refresh your cache to view the new
 version.

 Best wishes,

 Jean-Guilhem


 Le 28/03/2014 15:14, Andrew Buck a écrit :

 Hello again everyone,

 The task manager jobs for all of the main cities are coming along very
 nicely.  I have been amazed at how quickly the community responded to
 these jobs.

 In addition to the jobs in the cities, there is also some mapping that
 needs to be done over a wider area for context.  In order to help
 understand, model, and predict the spread of the disease it is useful
 to have population data for all of the villages and also road networks
 to help understand where infected people who travel might have
 traveled through.  We can help with both of these issues using the
 combination of what high resolution imagery we have (Bing, Pleiades,
 Orbview, etc), as well as some very recent LandSat 8 imagery over the
 entire affected area in 2 different color combinations.  These Landsat
 layers were put online by JGC and show natural color in the 432
 image and a traditional false color image in the 753 layer listed
 below.  Both of these image layers were taken at the exact same time,
 however the 753 layer shows the area in 3 different infra-red colors.
  By using these two layers together it is possible to tell apart
 objects that are the same color (like a village with brown roofs, vs a
 brown field).  In these images villages will appear brown in the 432
 layer and bright pink in the 753 layer.

 tms[19]:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/guinee_c10_l8_pxs432/
 {zoom}/{x}/{y}

 tms[19]:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/guinee_c10_l8_pxs753/
 {zoom}/{x}/{y}

 The best way I have found to use these is to load them both into JOSM
 with the 753 layer listed above the 432 layer.  Then, turn down the
 opactiy (transparency) on the 753 layer to about 50 to 60 percent and
 you should see the villages look quite apparent.  To start with just
 try this in an area where a lot of villages are already mapped to get
 a sense for how to set up the imagery layers and what to look for.
 Basically, the villages will be a bright pinkish hue with a kind of
 shimmering look from the 432 layer underneath.

 Hopefully we can get maybe 5 to 10 people working on this over the
 whole area we have Landsat for.  I don't think it is worth creating
 such a huge job on the task manager for this since it is such a broad
 area.  Just try to upload (and update) once every 1/2 hour or so.
 Also, it would be a good idea to install the Geochat plugin for josm
 and login to it as well as right clicking on the Geochat text box and
 clicking 'show users on map'.  This will let you see other Geochat
 users in the same area.  If all the people who work on this task use
 that setup the risk of conflicts is basically 0.  And finally, I am on
 mumble if you have any questions about the setup of what to do.  It
 would be cool to have a room of people working on this together so you
 can all share tips on there.

 Anyway, thanks for all the help so far and let's keep going on this
 new stuff as well.  If you plan to work on this, please just post a
 short message to the list here when you start so I can get a sense of
 how many people end up doing this.  It is a bit tricky to set up, but
 is a really fun thing to work on once you have it all set up.

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Re: [HOT] Contour lines overlay for remote mapping

2014-03-29 Thread Severin Menard
Hi Yves,

Thanks for this useful resource! I used to use OpenCycleMap to get
contourlines. Your (?) rendering is less detailed but IMHO provides a
better overview of the relief at first sight. I would use it first and then
OpenCycleMap if I need to enter into more details.

Sincerely,

Severin


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 I figured out yesterday mapping Macenta that I had trouble understanding
 the way the area was build. It was my first mapping for HOT, and also my
 first mapping outside Europe.

 Mapper could be interested to add this overlay on JOSM over the aerial to
 benefit from contour-lines :
 tms:http://www.opensnowmap.org/opensnowmap-overlay/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
 (source CGIAR-CSI SRTM V4.1 + ASTER beyond 60°N)

 Ski pistes shouldn't disturb the mapper in the concerned area.

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Re: [HOT] Tharparkar Drought in Sindh Province, Pakistan - Mapping to support Aid Deliveries

2014-03-29 Thread Severin Menard
Hi Mark,

Thanks for this very comprehensive email and wikipage.
It is likely this HMP will last longer than higher priority Crisis, be
patient and keep going!

Sincerely,

Severin


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 Dear All

 In support of the Drought Relief Efforts in The Tharparker Desert, the HOT
 Community has commenced a Humanitarian Mapping Project (HMP) to map
 population areas, access roads and airfields as well as water sources and
 other critical information.

 The Tharparker region in Pakistan is the world's 18th largest desert and
 has been in a state of drought since late 2013. Recently more than 100
 people have died as a result of the effects of the drought.

 The Pakistan Government has mobilized to assist this stricken area and
 this HMP will be useful to support relief efforts by agencies attempting to
 reach all the people in need.

 Full background information on the drought and mapping needs are on the
 HMP 
 Wikihttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/Pakistan_Tharparkar_Drought
  Page
 and a Tasking Manager http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/462 Job has been
 created for the area

 This is a* Medium Priority HMP*, secondary to the Guinea Ebola 
 Outbreakhttp://tasks.hotosm.org/job/473
  activation.

 Please help map this desert area when you have some spare time and when
 the Guinea Ebola Outbreak is completed.

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Re: [HOT] Contour lines overlay for remote mapping

2014-03-29 Thread yvecai
Sure, OpenCycleMap is good for relief too, and with different data (only 
ASTER), so it's also good to compare.
(My)  OpenSnowMap layer is transparent and thus can stay on top of 
aerial imagery when mapping, I just found this handy and wanted to share.


Yves


On 03/29/2014 12:47 PM, Severin Menard wrote:

Hi Yves,

Thanks for this useful resource! I used to use OpenCycleMap to get 
contourlines. Your (?) rendering is less detailed but IMHO provides a 
better overview of the relief at first sight. I would use it first and 
then OpenCycleMap if I need to enter into more details.


Sincerely,

Severin


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mailto:yve...@gmail.com wrote:


I figured out yesterday mapping Macenta that I had trouble
understanding the way the area was build. It was my first mapping
for HOT, and also my first mapping outside Europe.

Mapper could be interested to add this overlay on JOSM over the
aerial to benefit from contour-lines :
tms:http://www.opensnowmap.org/opensnowmap-overlay/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png

http://www.opensnowmap.org/opensnowmap-overlay/%7Bzoom%7D/%7Bx%7D/%7By%7D.png
(source CGIAR-CSI SRTM V4.1 + ASTER beyond 60°N)

Ski pistes shouldn't disturb the mapper in the concerned area.

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[HOT] Ebola Outbreak Guinea - West Africa, Mapping to support CartONG - MSF-CH - Red Cross

2014-03-29 Thread Pierre Béland
As the Ebola Outbreak is expanding in the neighboring countries, humanitarians 
need various geographic information. We started this activation to respond to 
CartONG - MSF-CH needs. And now the US Red Cross is asking to add more cities 
to respond to needs of teams deploying in other areas.

The OSM contributors response to map in detail the various towns was fantastic 
so far. Note that new Task Manager Jobs are still added fot this.

In the rural areas where no Bing Imagery is available, we use the Landsat 
Imagery prepared by Jean-Guilhem to identify the landuse areas. We are asking 
the contributors to circle the residential areas and create a landuse area 
polygon.  Study made by Andrew Buch shows that we can use information about 
surface of a village to estimate is population.
 This information can be very useful for the humanitarian organizations working 
on these territories.

It would be important also to take care of the highway network. This again can 
be done using the Landsat imagery. We are asking the more experienced mappers 
to go through the territory and trace the road network.

Cumulatives statistics from March 25 up  March 28, midnight (3 days) show a 
significant effort from the OSM community : 182OSM contributors, 520,000 
objects, 62,600 buildings

Thanks again  all the contributors.


 
Pierre 

Andrew notes about Landsat Imagery 

tms[19]:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/guinee_c10_l8_pxs432/{zoom}/{x}/{y}

tms[19]:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/guinee_c10_l8_pxs753/{zoom}/{x}/{y}

The best way I have found to use these is to load them both into
  JOSM
with the 753 layer listed above the 432 layer.  Then, turn down
  the
opactiy (transparency) on the 753 layer to about 50 to 60 percent
  and
you should see the villages look quite apparent.  To start with
  just
try this in an area where a lot of villages are already mapped to
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Re: [HOT] Contour lines overlay for remote mapping

2014-03-29 Thread Severin Menard
Yes, the transparency is very useful, thanks again.


On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 6:44 PM, yvecai yve...@gmail.com wrote:

  Sure, OpenCycleMap is good for relief too, and with different data (only
 ASTER), so it's also good to compare.
 (My)  OpenSnowMap layer is transparent and thus can stay on top of aerial
 imagery when mapping, I just found this handy and wanted to share.

 Yves



 On 03/29/2014 12:47 PM, Severin Menard wrote:

 Hi Yves,

  Thanks for this useful resource! I used to use OpenCycleMap to get
 contourlines. Your (?) rendering is less detailed but IMHO provides a
 better overview of the relief at first sight. I would use it first and then
 OpenCycleMap if I need to enter into more details.

  Sincerely,

  Severin


 On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:04 PM, yvecai yve...@gmail.com wrote:

 I figured out yesterday mapping Macenta that I had trouble understanding
 the way the area was build. It was my first mapping for HOT, and also my
 first mapping outside Europe.

 Mapper could be interested to add this overlay on JOSM over the aerial to
 benefit from contour-lines :
 tms:http://www.opensnowmap.org/opensnowmap-overlay/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
 (source CGIAR-CSI SRTM V4.1 + ASTER beyond 60°N)

 Ski pistes shouldn't disturb the mapper in the concerned area.

 Yves - opensnowmap.org

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[HOT] Need 5 to 10 volunteers with josm and mumble.

2014-03-29 Thread Andrew Buck
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Hello everyone,

Pierre mentioned I am doing a study about population densities in the
villages in this area.  I need help tracing buildings and huts in
select villages around the area.

I would like to get a small virtual mapping party going using mumble
to share tips and whatnot as people help trace these villages.  I will
be online all day today on Saturday and can get the group started but
I need a few more people to help.  I want to check about 500 villages
and make sure all the buildings are mapped in them.  Currently most
are complete, but lots of them need a few more buildings traced.  It
only take 5 or 10 minutes to do a typical village, but with 500 to go
over it is too many for me.  Join up on mumble and I will give out
villages to trace buildings for.  I have all 500 loaded on my system
so I can check them off as people do them.

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Re: [HOT] Ebola Outbreak Guinea - West Africa, Mapping to support CartONG - MSF-CH - Red Cross

2014-03-29 Thread Pierre Béland
Hi Alex,

I will come back to you with AOI's for Imagery.


Thanks 


Pierre 




 De : Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com
À : Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr 
Cc : HOT Discussion list hot@openstreetmap.org 
Envoyé le : Samedi 29 mars 2014 15h35
Objet : Re: [HOT] Ebola Outbreak Guinea - West Africa, Mapping to support 
CartONG - MSF-CH - Red Cross
 




On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:

In the rural areas where no Bing Imagery is available, we use the Landsat 
Imagery prepared by Jean-Guilhem to identify the landuse areas.
Pierre - can you share specific areas where imagery is needed?

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