[HOT] Activation Coordination Courses: How-To and earn your Activation "Community Care Role" badge at the same time.

[Blake Girardot HOT/OSM]

Dear Friends,

The amount of help you all have provided over the last 6-7 weeks is
outstanding and I have many thanks from major organizations around the
world to pass on to each and everyone of you. My inbox has several
requests to pass on thanks you, everyone who has OSM mapped or helped
with any HOT/OSM activity ever literally.

So many people have really stepped up and helped, dedicated so much
care and effort to helping in whatever small way we could and several
folks have really stepped up gone above and beyond, probably working
too much. You have all done awesome work and many organizations, some
huge and some small, have used the data you generated to make a
difference in people's lives.

Which leads me to the topic of this email.

The HOT Activation teams have really done incredible work, many long
hours for several weeks in a row now, some of them volunteering more
than full time for 7 straight weeks.

Professionalism, experience, continuity and dedication are critical.

Self care and community care are just as critical.

This means, taking breaks, taking time off, making sure you and your
peers are getting enough sleep, food, water. I have the honor of
volunteering alongside you and other dedicated, tops in their field,
people who continually amaze me at their high level of skills,
experience and professionalism making a huge difference to people on
the ground. The only way we can all maximize our impact is by taking
care of ourselves too. 8 hours off is worth so much more than 20 hours
straight.

So please, let us all take a few moments to make sure we are meeting
all our self care needs and make yourself feel good by taking a break
for a job amazingly done so far.

But that also means we need people to join the Activation teams so
people can feel even better taking time off for self care.

In the big picture everyone is part of the activation team, everyone
who maps, edits the wiki, helps or has helped HOT/OSM in any way in
the past (the OSM data has been built over years and every bit of it
is important) is part of the activation team.

But there is a HOT Activation protocol and there are formal roles that
make a commitment and take on real responsibility for several parts of
an activation. It just takes available time and experience and
knowledge to fill one of the formal roles. HOT has a process to bring
people's skills up in the Activation Coordination process, formal
teams and roles. And you can learn how to get started joining an
activation team by taking the self paced courses that train you to be
a part of an Activation team.

There are only 2, top level, fully peer endorsed Activation Leads at
the moment. That means they have completed every course in the
Activation Coordination group of courses. And they have gone further
and helped out in every role over the course of a few years, in actual
or simulated activations and earned the edorsement of their peers.

(There are several of you reading this email who are fully qualified
of course and can step in for any role in any activation, including
Lead, just as you have done for years, you just have not gone through
the courses and requested the peer endorsement. The content of the
course is so good, you want to click through them all. I promise you
it will not be a waste of your time, but it will take a few days to
click through them all. Trust me, it is worth it. Just watch the video
below and you will be able to click through each course in about 20
mins just as I did in the video, I think there are 11 courses.)

The online course software is not great, but the content is amazing.
You will learn what you need to know and feel confident contributing
to the world of Activation coordination. HOT/OSM needs you.

I just took the Community Care course as I know it is something we
needed and I wanted to see what we should be doing.

I created a 20 minute long, very informal (that means I mumble a lot
and talk too softly) video in American English that shows you how to
use the HOT Courses website to take a course and I walk through the
full content of the Community Care course. The information in the
course itself is something we all need. I encourage everyone to at
least suffer through the video and read along with me as we learn most
of the great material in that important course together.

The signs and symptoms section and the how to self care parts are the
most important sections to listen to.

Try to make it through the whole thing as there is important
information throughout the whole video about self care, even if some
parts might not apply to you. Read the video description carefully.

https://youtu.be/Tlrj84pazIw

Thank you Russ for making such a great course!

Any questions or problems taking courses, just contact me or
russ.deff...@hotosm.org directly.

As I often say: It is really an honor to be able to say, I look
forward to working with everyone on this list in the future in some
way!

And literally millions of people around 

Re: [HOT] TM3 and validation

[john whelan]

I'm after the most recently mapped tile because that one is the way they
are currently mapping and that's what I'd like to correct.

If I get a name that gives me one or more tiles.  Which is the most
recent?   If they are mapping in a group they may well have corrected
themselves or even by themselves they may have experimented then read the
documentation and corrected themselves.

I've had mappers with three of four years experience who have benefited
from feedback.  One was using highway=track rather than
highway=unclassified because he once put in name=unclassified in JOSM got
an error there after used highway=track.  English even the US variety
wasn't their first language.

You should know by now I'm awkward and do things differently.

Cheerio John

On 21 October 2017 at 16:08, Blake Girardot  wrote:

> I think you just want to sort by "last feedback" then.
>
> That should tell you how long it has been since the mapper last got
> feedback and if it is the same as their registration time, you know
> they have probably never gotten feedback.
>
> Can you try that and see if it is a fair replacement for your most
> recently mapped task. I think it will get you the same thing
> essentially.
>
> regards
> blake
>
> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 3:48 PM, john whelan 
> wrote:
> > Remember I'm basically lazy.  I do two things when I validate.  The
> first is
> > clean up the second is provide feedback.
> >
> > The sooner someone receives feedback the better the response.  You get
> more
> > tiles out of them and they are of a higher quality.  This means less
> clean
> > up for me to do.
> >
> > Someone confirmed the feedback loop and confirmed that within 24 hours is
> > best then you get a trickle down effect so after a week you get much
> lower
> > responses.
> >
> > The other part is if I'm validating tiles that are a week old am I going
> to
> > annoy the mapper because they may have already corrected their bad
> habits as
> > a result of earlier feedback and yet these are still being mentioned.  So
> > the mapper doesn't get a warm fuzzy and to be honest it takes longer for
> me
> > to provide proper feedback than to have mapped the tile myself.  Remember
> > I'm lazy.
> >
> > So when I land on a project the ideal is validate the most recently
> mapped
> > tiles first then quietly clean up the rest.
> >
> > Does that make it clearer?  It's about problem avoidance or prevention
> > rather than verifying the mapping as such.
> >
> > The how long have they been mapping helps, some mappers I'll take a quick
> > glance at, newer mappers it's zoom in and look for a few more things.
> >
> > Thanks John
> >
> > On 21 Oct 2017 3:32 pm, "Blake Girardot HOT/OSM" <
> blake.girar...@hotosm.org>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi John,
> >>
> >> If you could explain just a bit more about why the most recently
> >> mapped task is your main priority (sometimes)?
> >>
> >> I do not understand.
> >>
> >> I understand it has something to do with someone who mapped 3 months
> >> ago, we now also send emails so time passed since they last mapped is
> >> much much less of an issue (Martin is going to maybe look at redoing
> >> his analysis).
> >>
> >> We actually started off with what you are asking for, but feedback
> >> from users was they were much more interested in getting to the newest
> >> mappers the fastest, which is what we ended up going with.
> >>
> >> Maybe it is easy to add back in, but that table is already pretty
> crowded.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Blake
> >>
> >> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 2:37 PM, john whelan 
> >> wrote:
> >> > I've found what you are doing on the video, your accent is fine you
> know
> >> > of
> >> > course that people studying English like what it is spoke years ago
> >> > travel
> >> > to parts of the US to record the Americans as their language has been
> >> > isolated for many years so it much closer to English what was spoke
> when
> >> > their families emigrated.
> >> >
> >> > Yes I can pick out a user who registered ten minutes ago and the tiles
> >> > they
> >> > mapped but that isn't what I'm after.  I'm after the most recently
> >> > mapped
> >> > tile and that's the one that is the most valuable to give feedback on.
> >> >
> >> > By the way I'm using cut and paste on the name displayed below to give
> >> > feedback with the @ sign or i to grab the username in JOSM, its
> >> > faster
> >> > than typing it in as you were doing.  Some mappers are naughty and do
> >> > not
> >> > completely map a tile, but their mapping still requires feedback even
> if
> >> > someone else finishes it off.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Cheerio John
> >> >
> >> > On 21 October 2017 at 14:20, Blake Girardot 
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi John,
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you very much for your feedback on the TM3, this and the
> >> >> previous. And thank you for putting them in GitHub, that is really
> the
> >> >> best place for them.
> 

Re: [HOT] TM3 and validation

[Blake Girardot]

I think you just want to sort by "last feedback" then.

That should tell you how long it has been since the mapper last got
feedback and if it is the same as their registration time, you know
they have probably never gotten feedback.

Can you try that and see if it is a fair replacement for your most
recently mapped task. I think it will get you the same thing
essentially.

regards
blake

On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 3:48 PM, john whelan  wrote:
> Remember I'm basically lazy.  I do two things when I validate.  The first is
> clean up the second is provide feedback.
>
> The sooner someone receives feedback the better the response.  You get more
> tiles out of them and they are of a higher quality.  This means less clean
> up for me to do.
>
> Someone confirmed the feedback loop and confirmed that within 24 hours is
> best then you get a trickle down effect so after a week you get much lower
> responses.
>
> The other part is if I'm validating tiles that are a week old am I going to
> annoy the mapper because they may have already corrected their bad habits as
> a result of earlier feedback and yet these are still being mentioned.  So
> the mapper doesn't get a warm fuzzy and to be honest it takes longer for me
> to provide proper feedback than to have mapped the tile myself.  Remember
> I'm lazy.
>
> So when I land on a project the ideal is validate the most recently mapped
> tiles first then quietly clean up the rest.
>
> Does that make it clearer?  It's about problem avoidance or prevention
> rather than verifying the mapping as such.
>
> The how long have they been mapping helps, some mappers I'll take a quick
> glance at, newer mappers it's zoom in and look for a few more things.
>
> Thanks John
>
> On 21 Oct 2017 3:32 pm, "Blake Girardot HOT/OSM" 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> If you could explain just a bit more about why the most recently
>> mapped task is your main priority (sometimes)?
>>
>> I do not understand.
>>
>> I understand it has something to do with someone who mapped 3 months
>> ago, we now also send emails so time passed since they last mapped is
>> much much less of an issue (Martin is going to maybe look at redoing
>> his analysis).
>>
>> We actually started off with what you are asking for, but feedback
>> from users was they were much more interested in getting to the newest
>> mappers the fastest, which is what we ended up going with.
>>
>> Maybe it is easy to add back in, but that table is already pretty crowded.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Blake
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 2:37 PM, john whelan 
>> wrote:
>> > I've found what you are doing on the video, your accent is fine you know
>> > of
>> > course that people studying English like what it is spoke years ago
>> > travel
>> > to parts of the US to record the Americans as their language has been
>> > isolated for many years so it much closer to English what was spoke when
>> > their families emigrated.
>> >
>> > Yes I can pick out a user who registered ten minutes ago and the tiles
>> > they
>> > mapped but that isn't what I'm after.  I'm after the most recently
>> > mapped
>> > tile and that's the one that is the most valuable to give feedback on.
>> >
>> > By the way I'm using cut and paste on the name displayed below to give
>> > feedback with the @ sign or i to grab the username in JOSM, its
>> > faster
>> > than typing it in as you were doing.  Some mappers are naughty and do
>> > not
>> > completely map a tile, but their mapping still requires feedback even if
>> > someone else finishes it off.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Cheerio John
>> >
>> > On 21 October 2017 at 14:20, Blake Girardot  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi John,
>> >>
>> >> Thank you very much for your feedback on the TM3, this and the
>> >> previous. And thank you for putting them in GitHub, that is really the
>> >> best place for them.
>> >>
>> >> The TM3 has better than the most recently mapped task.
>> >>
>> >> The most recently mapped task tells you nothing about the skill level
>> >> or the newness of the mapper. It could have been completed by me, 7+
>> >> years in OSM.
>> >>
>> >> What I really want is to find when I am validating is the newest
>> >> mapper who someone has not already given feedback.
>> >>
>> >> No point in me giving a 2 hour old user feedback if you got one of
>> >> their tasks 5 mins ago.
>> >>
>> >> That is what you can see in the Tasking Manager 3.
>> >>
>> >> I know my accent bugs you, so I made a silent video of how I use the
>> >> TM3 to get the newest mappers feedback as fast as possible:
>> >>
>> >> https://youtu.be/BX8rzi2NqQY
>> >>
>> >> Let me know what you think of the workflow in the video if you would
>> >> please.
>> >>
>> >> Respectfully,
>> >> blake
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 11:06 AM, john whelan 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Typically when I validate I validate the most recently mapped tiles
>> >> > first
>> >> 

Re: [HOT] TM3 and validation

[john whelan]

Remember I'm basically lazy.  I do two things when I validate.  The first
is clean up the second is provide feedback.

The sooner someone receives feedback the better the response.  You get more
tiles out of them and they are of a higher quality.  This means less clean
up for me to do.

Someone confirmed the feedback loop and confirmed that within 24 hours is
best then you get a trickle down effect so after a week you get much lower
responses.

The other part is if I'm validating tiles that are a week old am I going to
annoy the mapper because they may have already corrected their bad habits
as a result of earlier feedback and yet these are still being mentioned.
So the mapper doesn't get a warm fuzzy and to be honest it takes longer for
me to provide proper feedback than to have mapped the tile myself.
Remember I'm lazy.

So when I land on a project the ideal is validate the most recently mapped
tiles first then quietly clean up the rest.

Does that make it clearer?  It's about problem avoidance or prevention
rather than verifying the mapping as such.

The how long have they been mapping helps, some mappers I'll take a quick
glance at, newer mappers it's zoom in and look for a few more things.

Thanks John

On 21 Oct 2017 3:32 pm, "Blake Girardot HOT/OSM" 
wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> If you could explain just a bit more about why the most recently
> mapped task is your main priority (sometimes)?
>
> I do not understand.
>
> I understand it has something to do with someone who mapped 3 months
> ago, we now also send emails so time passed since they last mapped is
> much much less of an issue (Martin is going to maybe look at redoing
> his analysis).
>
> We actually started off with what you are asking for, but feedback
> from users was they were much more interested in getting to the newest
> mappers the fastest, which is what we ended up going with.
>
> Maybe it is easy to add back in, but that table is already pretty crowded.
>
> Regards,
> Blake
>
> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 2:37 PM, john whelan 
> wrote:
> > I've found what you are doing on the video, your accent is fine you know
> of
> > course that people studying English like what it is spoke years ago
> travel
> > to parts of the US to record the Americans as their language has been
> > isolated for many years so it much closer to English what was spoke when
> > their families emigrated.
> >
> > Yes I can pick out a user who registered ten minutes ago and the tiles
> they
> > mapped but that isn't what I'm after.  I'm after the most recently mapped
> > tile and that's the one that is the most valuable to give feedback on.
> >
> > By the way I'm using cut and paste on the name displayed below to give
> > feedback with the @ sign or i to grab the username in JOSM, its
> faster
> > than typing it in as you were doing.  Some mappers are naughty and do not
> > completely map a tile, but their mapping still requires feedback even if
> > someone else finishes it off.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Cheerio John
> >
> > On 21 October 2017 at 14:20, Blake Girardot  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi John,
> >>
> >> Thank you very much for your feedback on the TM3, this and the
> >> previous. And thank you for putting them in GitHub, that is really the
> >> best place for them.
> >>
> >> The TM3 has better than the most recently mapped task.
> >>
> >> The most recently mapped task tells you nothing about the skill level
> >> or the newness of the mapper. It could have been completed by me, 7+
> >> years in OSM.
> >>
> >> What I really want is to find when I am validating is the newest
> >> mapper who someone has not already given feedback.
> >>
> >> No point in me giving a 2 hour old user feedback if you got one of
> >> their tasks 5 mins ago.
> >>
> >> That is what you can see in the Tasking Manager 3.
> >>
> >> I know my accent bugs you, so I made a silent video of how I use the
> >> TM3 to get the newest mappers feedback as fast as possible:
> >>
> >> https://youtu.be/BX8rzi2NqQY
> >>
> >> Let me know what you think of the workflow in the video if you would
> >> please.
> >>
> >> Respectfully,
> >> blake
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 11:06 AM, john whelan 
> >> wrote:
> >> > Typically when I validate I validate the most recently mapped tiles
> >> > first
> >> > working on the principle that the faster feedback the more likely it
> is
> >> > to
> >> > be effective.
> >> >
> >> > If someone has already changed their habits telling them that two
> >> > villages
> >> > two kilometers apart are probably not connected by a primary highway
> but
> >> > by
> >> > a minor road three months after they have mapped is a waste of time.
> >> >
> >> > I can't see how to do this in TM3.  I need a link to the tile.
> >> >
> >> > ___
> >> > HOT mailing list
> >> > HOT@openstreetmap.org
> >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
> >> >
> >>
> >>

Re: [HOT] TM3 and validation

[Blake Girardot HOT/OSM]

Hi John,

If you could explain just a bit more about why the most recently
mapped task is your main priority (sometimes)?

I do not understand.

I understand it has something to do with someone who mapped 3 months
ago, we now also send emails so time passed since they last mapped is
much much less of an issue (Martin is going to maybe look at redoing
his analysis).

We actually started off with what you are asking for, but feedback
from users was they were much more interested in getting to the newest
mappers the fastest, which is what we ended up going with.

Maybe it is easy to add back in, but that table is already pretty crowded.

Regards,
Blake

On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 2:37 PM, john whelan  wrote:
> I've found what you are doing on the video, your accent is fine you know of
> course that people studying English like what it is spoke years ago travel
> to parts of the US to record the Americans as their language has been
> isolated for many years so it much closer to English what was spoke when
> their families emigrated.
>
> Yes I can pick out a user who registered ten minutes ago and the tiles they
> mapped but that isn't what I'm after.  I'm after the most recently mapped
> tile and that's the one that is the most valuable to give feedback on.
>
> By the way I'm using cut and paste on the name displayed below to give
> feedback with the @ sign or i to grab the username in JOSM, its faster
> than typing it in as you were doing.  Some mappers are naughty and do not
> completely map a tile, but their mapping still requires feedback even if
> someone else finishes it off.
>
> Thanks
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 21 October 2017 at 14:20, Blake Girardot  wrote:
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Thank you very much for your feedback on the TM3, this and the
>> previous. And thank you for putting them in GitHub, that is really the
>> best place for them.
>>
>> The TM3 has better than the most recently mapped task.
>>
>> The most recently mapped task tells you nothing about the skill level
>> or the newness of the mapper. It could have been completed by me, 7+
>> years in OSM.
>>
>> What I really want is to find when I am validating is the newest
>> mapper who someone has not already given feedback.
>>
>> No point in me giving a 2 hour old user feedback if you got one of
>> their tasks 5 mins ago.
>>
>> That is what you can see in the Tasking Manager 3.
>>
>> I know my accent bugs you, so I made a silent video of how I use the
>> TM3 to get the newest mappers feedback as fast as possible:
>>
>> https://youtu.be/BX8rzi2NqQY
>>
>> Let me know what you think of the workflow in the video if you would
>> please.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>> blake
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 11:06 AM, john whelan 
>> wrote:
>> > Typically when I validate I validate the most recently mapped tiles
>> > first
>> > working on the principle that the faster feedback the more likely it is
>> > to
>> > be effective.
>> >
>> > If someone has already changed their habits telling them that two
>> > villages
>> > two kilometers apart are probably not connected by a primary highway but
>> > by
>> > a minor road three months after they have mapped is a waste of time.
>> >
>> > I can't see how to do this in TM3.  I need a link to the tile.
>> >
>> > ___
>> > HOT mailing list
>> > HOT@openstreetmap.org
>> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> 
>> Blake Girardot
>> OSM Wiki - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Bgirardot
>> HOTOSM Member - https://hotosm.org/users/blake_girardot
>> skype: jblakegirardot
>> Live OSM Mapper-Support channel - https://hotosm-slack.herokuapp.com/
>
>
>
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>



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Re: [HOT] TM3 and validation

[john whelan]

I've found what you are doing on the video, your accent is fine you know of
course that people studying English like what it is spoke years ago travel
to parts of the US to record the Americans as their language has been
isolated for many years so it much closer to English what was spoke when
their families emigrated.

Yes I can pick out a user who registered ten minutes ago and the tiles they
mapped but that isn't what I'm after.  I'm after the most recently mapped
tile and that's the one that is the most valuable to give feedback on.

By the way I'm using cut and paste on the name displayed below to give
feedback with the @ sign or i to grab the username in JOSM, its
faster than typing it in as you were doing.  Some mappers are naughty and
do not completely map a tile, but their mapping still requires feedback
even if someone else finishes it off.

Thanks

Cheerio John

On 21 October 2017 at 14:20, Blake Girardot  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Thank you very much for your feedback on the TM3, this and the
> previous. And thank you for putting them in GitHub, that is really the
> best place for them.
>
> The TM3 has better than the most recently mapped task.
>
> The most recently mapped task tells you nothing about the skill level
> or the newness of the mapper. It could have been completed by me, 7+
> years in OSM.
>
> What I really want is to find when I am validating is the newest
> mapper who someone has not already given feedback.
>
> No point in me giving a 2 hour old user feedback if you got one of
> their tasks 5 mins ago.
>
> That is what you can see in the Tasking Manager 3.
>
> I know my accent bugs you, so I made a silent video of how I use the
> TM3 to get the newest mappers feedback as fast as possible:
>
> https://youtu.be/BX8rzi2NqQY
>
> Let me know what you think of the workflow in the video if you would
> please.
>
> Respectfully,
> blake
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 11:06 AM, john whelan 
> wrote:
> > Typically when I validate I validate the most recently mapped tiles first
> > working on the principle that the faster feedback the more likely it is
> to
> > be effective.
> >
> > If someone has already changed their habits telling them that two
> villages
> > two kilometers apart are probably not connected by a primary highway but
> by
> > a minor road three months after they have mapped is a waste of time.
> >
> > I can't see how to do this in TM3.  I need a link to the tile.
> >
> > ___
> > HOT mailing list
> > HOT@openstreetmap.org
> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
> >
>
>
>
> --
> 
> Blake Girardot
> OSM Wiki - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Bgirardot
> HOTOSM Member - https://hotosm.org/users/blake_girardot
> skype: jblakegirardot
> Live OSM Mapper-Support channel - https://hotosm-slack.herokuapp.com/
>
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Re: [HOT] TM3 and validation

[Blake Girardot]

Hi John,

Thank you very much for your feedback on the TM3, this and the
previous. And thank you for putting them in GitHub, that is really the
best place for them.

The TM3 has better than the most recently mapped task.

The most recently mapped task tells you nothing about the skill level
or the newness of the mapper. It could have been completed by me, 7+
years in OSM.

What I really want is to find when I am validating is the newest
mapper who someone has not already given feedback.

No point in me giving a 2 hour old user feedback if you got one of
their tasks 5 mins ago.

That is what you can see in the Tasking Manager 3.

I know my accent bugs you, so I made a silent video of how I use the
TM3 to get the newest mappers feedback as fast as possible:

https://youtu.be/BX8rzi2NqQY

Let me know what you think of the workflow in the video if you would please.

Respectfully,
blake



On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 11:06 AM, john whelan  wrote:
> Typically when I validate I validate the most recently mapped tiles first
> working on the principle that the faster feedback the more likely it is to
> be effective.
>
> If someone has already changed their habits telling them that two villages
> two kilometers apart are probably not connected by a primary highway but by
> a minor road three months after they have mapped is a waste of time.
>
> I can't see how to do this in TM3.  I need a link to the tile.
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Re: [HOT] TM3 and validation

[john whelan]

Guilty

John

On 21 October 2017 at 11:27, Frans Schutz  wrote:

> I Suppport this
>
> Hopefully this will be fixed
>
> thanks, Frans
>
> ps John,  are you the same John Whelan, active on the Tranz furums ? :-)
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> Op 21-10-2017 om 17:06 schreef john whelan:
>
> Typically when I validate I validate the most recently mapped tiles first
> working on the principle that the faster feedback the more likely it is to
> be effective.
>
> If someone has already changed their habits telling them that two villages
> two kilometers apart are probably not connected by a primary highway but by
> a minor road three months after they have mapped is a waste of time.
>
> I can't see how to do this in TM3.  I need a link to the tiles that have
> been mapped with the most recent at the top.
>
> Could someone identify this functionality please.  It is important as the
> faster someone is corrected the fewer mistakes they'll make in future.
>
> Thanks John
>
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I Suppport this

Hopefully this will be fixed

thanks, Frans

ps John,  are you the same John Whelan, active on the Tranz furums ? :-)


Op 21-10-2017 om 17:06 schreef john whelan:
Typically when I validate I validate the most recently mapped tiles 
first working on the principle that the faster feedback the more 
likely it is to be effective.


If someone has already changed their habits telling them that two 
villages two kilometers apart are probably not connected by a primary 
highway but by a minor road three months after they have mapped is a 
waste of time.


I can't see how to do this in TM3.  I need a link to the tiles that 
have been mapped with the most recent at the top.


Could someone identify this functionality please.  It is important as 
the faster someone is corrected the fewer mistakes they'll make in future.


Thanks John


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[HOT] TM3 and validation

[john whelan]

Typically when I validate I validate the most recently mapped tiles first
working on the principle that the faster feedback the more likely it is to
be effective.

If someone has already changed their habits telling them that two villages
two kilometers apart are probably not connected by a primary highway but by
a minor road three months after they have mapped is a waste of time.

I can't see how to do this in TM3.  I need a link to the tiles that have
been mapped with the most recent at the top.

Could someone identify this functionality please.  It is important as the
faster someone is corrected the fewer mistakes they'll make in future.

Thanks John
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[john whelan]

Typically when I validate I validate the most recently mapped tiles first
working on the principle that the faster feedback the more likely it is to
be effective.

If someone has already changed their habits telling them that two villages
two kilometers apart are probably not connected by a primary highway but by
a minor road three months after they have mapped is a waste of time.

I can't see how to do this in TM3.  I need a link to the tile.
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