Re: [HOT] Introducing Amelia

[Pete Masters]

Hi Amelia, welcome!

Pete

On 28 Nov 2017 04:14, "Rebecca Firth"  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Introducing Amelia, who after some time as a volunteer, joined HOT staff
> team last week to work on two projects. She'll be supporting community
> development through the Nethope Grant, and Communications in Tanzania. A
> bit more information here: https://www.hotosm.org/users/amelia_hunt
>
> Please welcome her!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rebecca
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Re: [HOT] Introducing Amelia

[Robert Banick]

Welcome Amelia!

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:15 AM Rebecca Firth 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Introducing Amelia, who after some time as a volunteer, joined HOT staff
> team last week to work on two projects. She'll be supporting community
> development through the Nethope Grant, and Communications in Tanzania. A
> bit more information here: https://www.hotosm.org/users/amelia_hunt
>
> Please welcome her!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rebecca
>
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> Community and Partnerships Manager
> rebecca.fi...@hotosm.org 
> @RebeccaFirthy
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[HOT] Introducing Amelia

[Rebecca Firth]

Hi,

Introducing Amelia, who after some time as a volunteer, joined HOT staff
team last week to work on two projects. She'll be supporting community
development through the Nethope Grant, and Communications in Tanzania. A
bit more information here: https://www.hotosm.org/users/amelia_hunt

Please welcome her!

Thanks,

Rebecca

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Community and Partnerships Manager
rebecca.fi...@hotosm.org 
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Re: [HOT] simple instructionset for beginners

[john whelan]

>Recently I mapped a task where there were many non-squared buildings, some
roads crossing buildings and some other things
Because of the answer on one of my previous questions now I try to correct
all these mistakes but with some basic instructions they can hopefully be
avoided
it’s frustrating to see that someone has done a lot of work and that it all
have to be corrected.

Personally I wouldn't bother correcting  the buildings.  Most are requests
from NGOs and at some point they will decide that badly mapped buildings
are good enough or they will bring pressure to bear on the project managers
and HOT to get a decent building_tool in place.  There is one in JOSM but
it isn't promoted and that one is usable by new mappers.

When it takes longer to correct something by a skilled mapper than it would
to map it correctly in the first place something is wrong.

Cheerio John

On 27 November 2017 at 10:06, Henk Nugter  wrote:

> Hai All,
>
> I’m still a beginner in mapping and sometimes when i open a task there are
> general instructions about what to do and how.
> Would it be an idea to start with a small set of specific instructions
> like:
>
>- Map buildings and square them
>- Avoid building scrossing ways
>- Always connect roads etc.
>
> Recently I mapped a task where there were many non-squared buildings, some
> roads crossing buildings and some other things
> Because of the answer on one of my previous questions now I try to correct
> all these mistakes but with some basic instructions they can hopefully be
> avoided
> it’s frustating to see that someone has done a lot of work and that it all
> have to be corrected.
>
>
>
> Regards
> Henk Nugter
>
>
>
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Re: [HOT] Early validation

[john whelan]

TM3 does at least show the number of tiles validated by a mapper which
helps.

My own feeling it is the responsibility of the project manager to find a
resource to do the validation since the benefit of more accurate mapping is
I assume what they are after.

It's also less work overall to catch the mistakes early.

Certain projects are validated as new mapping is done but currently there
is no list of these but you can look at the % validated on a project.  If
you are a new mapper I would recommend these to you.

Validation is not for everyone.  There is a certain amount of repetition
involved and often it is some of the least complex parts of mapping that
you are validating.  Also you need patience although the temptation to just
give someone a clip round the ear is near irresistible sometimes.

Language can be a barrier.  I give feedback in English but often this is
not the mapper's first language.

Cheerio John

On 27 Nov 2017 10:32 am, "Jean Marie Falisse"  wrote:

> This comment is made by an inexperienced mapper, and as such the author
> would not take it bad if it’s considered best to be discarded.
>
> The quality of the work will be better if the validation process happens
> soon after the mapping, the mapper being able to take kind remarks and
> suggestions into account in order to improve the quality of his/her work.
> So we may assume that mapping work should be validated as soon as
> reasonably possible. I think I have read this under the pen of John Whelan.
>
> But we might not have enough (experienced) validators.
>
> Nevertheless, it should be possible, and this is my suggestion, to get
> some reasonably good mappers as first line validators, with maybe some
> useful guidelines, these validators having on their turn an experienced
> validator behind them. The work of the (supposedly scarce) experienced
> validator could then be accelerated.  Or maybe tasks.hotosm.org website
> doesn’t provide for this?
>
> Another suggestion that I would like to make in the same vein is the
> following. We could have a set of quizzes or tests online for mappers to
> evaluate themselves. To answer the questions : “what could I do to improve
> the quality of my mapping?”, or “Am I good enough to become a validator?"
>
> Whatever the quality of the suggestions, thanks for reading.
>
> Eleuthere on tasks.hotosm.org
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Re: [HOT] simple instructionset for beginners

[Blake Girardot HOT/OSM]

Hi Henk,

Welcome to mapping!

We have been working on a default set of instructions depending on the
type of mapping (buildings, roads, etc)

You can review (and contribute to improving) here:

https://bgirardot.gitbooks.io/hotosm-tm-default-project-instructions/content/

Any feedback is welcome.

Cheers,
Blake



On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Henk Nugter  wrote:
> Hai All,
>
> I’m still a beginner in mapping and sometimes when i open a task there are
> general instructions about what to do and how.
> Would it be an idea to start with a small set of specific instructions like:
>
> Map buildings and square them
> Avoid building scrossing ways
> Always connect roads etc.
>
> Recently I mapped a task where there were many non-squared buildings, some
> roads crossing buildings and some other things
> Because of the answer on one of my previous questions now I try to correct
> all these mistakes but with some basic instructions they can hopefully be
> avoided
> it’s frustating to see that someone has done a lot of work and that it all
> have to be corrected.
>
>
>
> Regards
> Henk Nugter
>
>
>
>
>
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[HOT] Early validation

[Jean Marie Falisse]

This comment is made by an inexperienced mapper, and as such the author would 
not take it bad if it’s considered best to be discarded.

The quality of the work will be better if the validation process happens soon 
after the mapping, the mapper being able to take kind remarks and suggestions 
into account in order to improve the quality of his/her work. So we may assume 
that mapping work should be validated as soon as reasonably possible. I think I 
have read this under the pen of John Whelan.

But we might not have enough (experienced) validators.

Nevertheless, it should be possible, and this is my suggestion, to get some 
reasonably good mappers as first line validators, with maybe some useful 
guidelines, these validators having on their turn an experienced validator 
behind them. The work of the (supposedly scarce) experienced validator could 
then be accelerated.  Or maybe tasks.hotosm.org website doesn’t provide for 
this?

Another suggestion that I would like to make in the same vein is the following. 
We could have a set of quizzes or tests online for mappers to evaluate 
themselves. To answer the questions : “what could I do to improve the quality 
of my mapping?”, or “Am I good enough to become a validator?"

Whatever the quality of the suggestions, thanks for reading.

Eleuthere on tasks.hotosm.org




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[HOT] simple instructionset for beginners

[Henk Nugter]

Hai All, 
I’m still a beginner in mapping and sometimes when i open a task there are 
general instructions about what to do and how.
Would it be an idea to start with a small set of specific instructions like:
- Map buildings and square them
- Avoid building scrossing ways
- Always connect roads etc.
Recently I mapped a task where there were many non-squared buildings, some 
roads crossing buildings and some other things
Because of the answer on one of my previous questions now I try to correct all 
these mistakes but with some basic instructions they can hopefully be avoided
it’s frustating to see that someone has done a lot of work and that it all have 
to be corrected.

Regards
Henk Nugter


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