Re: [HOT] Mike's JOSM-Scripts merged to the Mapathoner JOSM plugin

[Frans Schutz]

Hi
What went wrong?
On the scripting tag I miss now  the  commands
SelectNonortogonalbuildings.js

Selectduplicate.js
Which are very handy to select all non squared or duplicated buildings
Under the tab Matathoner I only see the commands for mapping buildings 
in a batch


The commands for finding non squared and duplicated buildings are 
important and most used by validators !


Please keep me informed


Op 11/23/2020 om 1:20 AM schreef Mike Thompson:

Thanks Jiri!

I am glad that these are valuable enough to the community that they 
were worth incorporating into your plugin.



All,

If there are any other needs for scripts/plugins, please let me know 
and I will see if the development is within my abilities.


Mike

On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 1:54 PM Jiri Vlasak <mailto:jiri.huba...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Dear humanitarian mappers,

with kind help of Mike, I merged Mike's JOSM-Scripts [1] into the
Mapathoner
JOSM plugin [2].

It means that you may *select duplicate buildings* and *select non
orthogonal
buildings* [3] directly from the JOSM menu when the *mapathoner*
plugin is
installed.

If you have any questions, suggestions, or ideas, feel free to
contribute to
the (new) mapathoner mailing list:

https://lists.sr.ht/~qeef/mapathoner
<https://lists.sr.ht/~qeef/mapathoner>

Have a nice day,
jiri

[1]: https://github.com/MikeTho16/JOSM-Scripts
<https://github.com/MikeTho16/JOSM-Scripts>
[2]: https://qeef.gitlab.io/mapathoner/
<https://qeef.gitlab.io/mapathoner/>
[3]:
https://qeef.gitlab.io/mapathoner/usage/#select-duplicate-buildings
<https://qeef.gitlab.io/mapathoner/usage/#select-duplicate-buildings>

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Re: [HOT] JOSM "mini tasking manager" Plugin

[Frans Schutz]

As Laurent Savaete stated, The Markseen plug in does the job already.
When you put the parameters correct you have grip on what area you have 
scanned and still to do.
fi. zooming till 20-30 meters gives enough detail to map, zooming out 
for an overview does not effect the mini map with scanned area.

I always use it when validating large ( or collected small task) squares.
Best regards

Op 9/23/2020 om 5:48 PM schreef Laurent Savaete:


Isn't the JOSM plugin MarkSeen 
https://github.com/risicle/josm-markseen very similar to what you're 
thinking about, or at least useful for your purposes?



On 23/09/2020 16:42, Andrew Buck wrote:
Its a good idea, and something the TODO list plugin was originally 
intended to do, in addition to its current functionality.  I am the 
one who came up with the original idea for the plugin, but I am 
terrible with Java so Gnonthgol coded it up based on my idea.


I wanted to also add the "area coverage feature" like you are 
describing as well as a "follow along way" function so you could 
follow along linear features like roads/waterways at some fairly 
close in zoom level along a long feature and it would track which 
parts you have examined.


So I definitely think your idea has merit.  My only quibble would be 
to not add a second layer with squares, as OSM objects.  You could do 
that, but its a bit hacky. Also I don't remember how well the TODO 
list deals with objects in other layers.  Fortunately, you don't have 
to add the squares as objects anyway, since the todo list can track 
them internally without them being OSM objects, and plugins can draw 
to the map view themselves.  Think about things like the validator 
plugin (which draws non osm object features to its own layer), or the 
fast draw plugin (which draws non osm objects to the active map layer 
as temporary lines that then get turned into proper OSM objects.


So aside from the implementation details, I would say yes, this is 
definitely a good idea and one I would support being added directly 
to the TODO plugin as additional functionality.


-AndrewBuck



On 9/23/20 9:44 AM, Mike Thompson wrote:

Dear fellow humanitarian mappers,

When I am mapping or validating a task from the tasking manager, I 
often find myself "panning and scanning", that is, zooming into a 
level at which I can quickly tell if everything that appears in 
imagery is mapped, and then systematically panning over the entire 
area of the task area (either with the mouse, or +an arrow 
key).  This works until I find something that needs to be mapped, or 
needs to be mapped differently, in which case I zoom in, do the 
mapping... and forget where I was with the "pan and scan"  (keyboard 
shortcut "8" - zoom previous helps a little, but if multiple 
zooms/pans of the map are performed it can be difficult to "get back 
to where you were").


I have come up with a prototype of a new plugin which might help.  
It divides the downloaded area in JOSM into a grid of smaller 
rectangles, and adds the rectangles to the Todo List (also adds the 
rectangles to a new data layer which is blocked from being uploaded 
from, or downloaded into). As each of these rectangles is reviewed, 
you can "Mark" it in the Todo List, and the Todo List will 
automatically zoom/pan the map to the next rectangle.


Questions:
1) Would this be useful?
2) Does this functionality already exist?
3) Should I proceed with development?
4) Should it be its own plugin, or should it be combined with other 
functionality of use to this community (for example, I could move 
the duplicate building script functionality into this plugin)?


Mike

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Re: [HOT] building=yes tags removed by new mapper about a month ago.

[Frans Schutz]

We know a little bit more about this Tim Schepan

take a look here

http://hdyc.neis-one.org/?TimSchepan

and here

http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-suspicious?uid=9551821#10/15.2285/-11.6558

He did not map so much

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TimSchepan/history#map=6/10.743/-2.598

Will it be helpfull to revert his changesets ?


best regards

Frans

Op 4-7-2019 om 23:43 schreef Victor Sunday:
1.What else can be done to track mappers like this?Do we have any tool 
that could provide the location of such mapper at the point of mapping?
2.With this kind of problem,I think its also necessary to make the 
profile completion of newbies signing up to OSM mandatory.maybe 
providing questions such as?
Do you already belong to local OSM community?if yes,provide name and 
location

how else can we reach you?phone no?..

We need to keep effective track of new OSM mappers so we handle or 
prevent this kind of problem.The mappers's username:TimSchepan has no 
other info about his/her profile.

Thanks @ John for the great job you re doing.
Victor N.Sunday




On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 7:41 PM Greg Rose via HOT 
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Looks like he deleted the master relation for the Niger River as
well.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1202937/history

Uggh.

GR



On Thursday, July 4, 2019, 10:39:38 AM PDT, john whelan
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https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/70916705

So far I've retagged some 750 buildings in different areas in Mali
but the changeset covers a lot of ground and a number of countries
so it might be nice for someone to have a look at what has happened.

The mapper has made no reply to a query.

Cheerio John
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Re: [HOT] Thank you from MSF!

[Frans Schutz]

Hello Ralf

you pinpoint to a situation which is not always clear.
First of all. we ty to keep ourselves to the East African Highway 
tagging wiki

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/East_Africa_Tagging_Guidelines

Different mappers judge different how to tag a highway. Out of my own 
experience lots of mappers (and validators) struggle with how to tag a 
highway.  Looking to the importance, the routing, and the width of the 
highway, which is hard to measure from a satellite image, we have to 
decide. A big number of new mappers are joining us and have different 
ideas (nor no idea at all) how to tag a highway. I've seen taggings as 
secondary highway as a connection to 2 hamlets and so on. So we try to 
tag as good as possible, but often it is a (calculated)guess which tag 
is relevant. Take also in account that there is a huge time pressure on 
these disaster mapping projects, so sometimes you accept the tagging as 
they were made. When there is no time pressure you can take a look to 
each highway and decide.

I hope you get an understanding how we have to deal with this subject.
Best regards
Frans Schutz
Validator



Op 5-4-2019 om 20:10 schreef Ralf Bernhardt:

Interesting when compared to the openstreetmap data.

There are many POIs I would like to see on Openstreetmap too, also
boundarys and place names.

I also noticed a different tagging scheme: Car, Moto and Foot. I would
guess that Roads not passable for a car but by foot and moto should be
highway=path in OSM.

But most of them are still tagged as unclassified or residential. Is
there a reason for that or will you change them later?

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Re: [HOT] use of landuse=Farm Land

[Frans Schutz]

Hi Joost

This is in the North Bangladesh area . isn't it ?

After the eartquake 2016 there were some projects  like 1090. mapping 
and tagging farmland was one of the subjects.


best regards

Frans


Op 1-8-2018 om 15:34 schreef joost schouppe:

Hi,

I stumbled upon a few thousand cases of the tag "landuse=Farm Land". 
Here's a query and the area where they exist:


https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/AI6

I mention it here, because what is weird is that some changesets 
mention things like #hotosm-task-502 (or 470) which I would expect to 
refer to https://tasks.hotosm.org/project/502, but that's completely 
different. Several of them do mention #missingmaps but not a task. 
Also, there's a lot of duplicate buildings around there.


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Re: [HOT] Recent building mapping in Malawi

[Frans Schutz]

You are right.
I see that as often as well. For sure  beginners who start with ID and even
start validating after a few Mapping sessions in which the most elementry
taggings went wrong. It would help if there is a mechanism in HOT task mgr
which not allows to start validating from ID or when a mapper has les than
a minimum level.
Frans

Op vr 10 nov. 2017 om 15:14 schreef john whelan 

> I'm currently adding tags to some 1,500 buildings in Malawi.  Many are
> from recent HOT projects.  I dislike validating building projects since I
> never really know what to do with buildings that are three times the size
> of the image and not square either but if someone could just run JOSM
> occasionally on the project tiles for these sort of projects and give
> feedback to the mappers that they really should tag their buildings that
> would help enormously and the quicker you pick up the new mappers and
> correct them the less work there is to do later on.
>
> It isn't just Malawi by the way but most of these are less than a dozen
> buildings per mapper and they all have to be visually checked.
>
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Re: [HOT] TM3 and validation

[Frans Schutz]

I Suppport this

Hopefully this will be fixed

thanks, Frans

ps John,  are you the same John Whelan, active on the Tranz furums ? :-)


Op 21-10-2017 om 17:06 schreef john whelan:
Typically when I validate I validate the most recently mapped tiles 
first working on the principle that the faster feedback the more 
likely it is to be effective.


If someone has already changed their habits telling them that two 
villages two kilometers apart are probably not connected by a primary 
highway but by a minor road three months after they have mapped is a 
waste of time.


I can't see how to do this in TM3.  I need a link to the tiles that 
have been mapped with the most recent at the top.


Could someone identify this functionality please.  It is important as 
the faster someone is corrected the fewer mistakes they'll make in future.


Thanks John


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