Re: [HOT] OpenDRI Field Guide Released
Dear John, Sorry to get back on this topic a few weeks after the release of the first draft of this report, but time ran quicker than I hoped before finding enough time to read it properly. First, I would like to say to express my opinion about the report: it is really impressive. It is written in a concise, understandable, educational way that make it easy and pleasant to read and it is a great, flexible tool to advocate for and set open data, disaster resilience and community based mapping. It also describes in a very detailed, open manner the OpenDRI project organization and staff. I have one question, one suggestion and a few feedback points. The question is: will this report be soon translated into various languages (French, Spanish, etc.) to be largely disseminated? The suggestion is about the past OSM community experiences in Haiti mentioned by Robert in the Community Mapping with the Red Cross in Haiti insert. The resources that allow such programs to happen are based on various training + community building projects that have started since March 2010, encompassing IOM embed projects, USAID funded projects (for a total of USD 1 million, I would say at least) + voluntary remote and/or field supports of many individuals (Nicolas Chavent, Jaakko Helleranta, Brian Wolford, Sebastien Pierrel, Pierre Béland, Robert Baker, Delphine Bédu, Emilie Reiser and me but I am certainly forgetting people - please forgive me). It would be worth to include and analyse them as OpenDRI related pioneering initiatives and regarding the lessons that have been learned from them. What do you think? My feedback points: Regarding OpenData and France, this slideshow provides I think some the main past and future milestones: http://www.slideshare.net/laurelucchesi/france-open-data-national-action-plan-g8 Regarding community building, the report emphasizes chapter 6 (first collection) the importance to maintain a sustainable, fun spirit and involvement among the mappers (I prefer this word rather than surveyors, because it seems related to the traditional survey techniques), but chapter 7 (Catalyzing) does not describe not much how this can be maintained, what is actually an important issue whose solution is likely not unique. Page 56, the second step is called Import data what seems a bit as import of existing data may not happen (if there is none) and because it encompasses as well the remote, crowd-sourcing mapping that is likely to bring more data than the potential import. I also found a few typos that may have been already found by others: The Open Cities Toolkit will available in mid 2014: be is missing visualize the likely impacy of a hazard on schools: impact, not impacy geographic data from the UK’s Ordinance Survey: Ordnance, not Ordinance users to fuse data from data catalogues, community mapping platforms: use and not fuse? Learning happens quickest when failure is transparent to all and s team: s to be deleted? [optional] Inubator or Accelerator services to the OpenDRI initiative: incubator and not inubator Connections between stakeholders who have umet challenges: I guess unmet, not umet COSMHASTM: they prefer COSMHA-STM Sincerely, Severin On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Hi All, I wanted to point out to you that the Open Data for Resilience Initiative: Field Guide was released yesterday(1). This is an exciting report authored by John Crowley and our friends at the World Bank Global Facility for Disaster Reduction and Recovery. You'll also see many HOT volunteers, partners and members are listed as providing input to the report. The power of having what we do codified into reports like this is an important aspect to the work HOT does. Every time it happens it makes it that much easier to coordinate with traditional institutions and interest them in the power of open data. Best, -Kate (1) https://www.gfdrr.org/ODRIFG ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] OpenDRI Field Guide Released
Hey there I'd like to second Severin's on the overall appreciation of the OpenDRI guide We opened up a conversation around translation towards French that could be facilitated by TWB thanks through the partnership HOT/TWB Sev opened up. I last joined Sev in enhancing the contexts of the 3 to 4 years of work around OSM in Haiti to better highlight what made both possible and special (an outcome in itself) the ARC/HRC project around OSM in Northern Haiti; happy to help out with those involved in OSM work in Haiti on an enrichment of the HT story I look forward to hearing back on John's talk tomorrow at SOTMUS on this topic. ++ Nico On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.comwrote: Dear John, Sorry to get back on this topic a few weeks after the release of the first draft of this report, but time ran quicker than I hoped before finding enough time to read it properly. First, I would like to say to express my opinion about the report: it is really impressive. It is written in a concise, understandable, educational way that make it easy and pleasant to read and it is a great, flexible tool to advocate for and set open data, disaster resilience and community based mapping. It also describes in a very detailed, open manner the OpenDRI project organization and staff. I have one question, one suggestion and a few feedback points. The question is: will this report be soon translated into various languages (French, Spanish, etc.) to be largely disseminated? The suggestion is about the past OSM community experiences in Haiti mentioned by Robert in the Community Mapping with the Red Cross in Haiti insert. The resources that allow such programs to happen are based on various training + community building projects that have started since March 2010, encompassing IOM embed projects, USAID funded projects (for a total of USD 1 million, I would say at least) + voluntary remote and/or field supports of many individuals (Nicolas Chavent, Jaakko Helleranta, Brian Wolford, Sebastien Pierrel, Pierre Béland, Robert Baker, Delphine Bédu, Emilie Reiser and me but I am certainly forgetting people - please forgive me). It would be worth to include and analyse them as OpenDRI related pioneering initiatives and regarding the lessons that have been learned from them. What do you think? My feedback points: Regarding OpenData and France, this slideshow provides I think some the main past and future milestones: http://www.slideshare.net/laurelucchesi/france-open-data-national-action-plan-g8 Regarding community building, the report emphasizes chapter 6 (first collection) the importance to maintain a sustainable, fun spirit and involvement among the mappers (I prefer this word rather than surveyors, because it seems related to the traditional survey techniques), but chapter 7 (Catalyzing) does not describe not much how this can be maintained, what is actually an important issue whose solution is likely not unique. Page 56, the second step is called Import data what seems a bit as import of existing data may not happen (if there is none) and because it encompasses as well the remote, crowd-sourcing mapping that is likely to bring more data than the potential import. I also found a few typos that may have been already found by others: The Open Cities Toolkit will available in mid 2014: be is missing visualize the likely impacy of a hazard on schools: impact, not impacy geographic data from the UK's Ordinance Survey: Ordnance, not Ordinance users to fuse data from data catalogues, community mapping platforms: use and not fuse? Learning happens quickest when failure is transparent to all and s team: s to be deleted? [optional] Inubator or Accelerator services to the OpenDRI initiative: incubator and not inubator Connections between stakeholders who have umet challenges: I guess unmet, not umet COSMHASTM: they prefer COSMHA-STM Sincerely, Severin On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Hi All, I wanted to point out to you that the Open Data for Resilience Initiative: Field Guide was released yesterday(1). This is an exciting report authored by John Crowley and our friends at the World Bank Global Facility for Disaster Reduction and Recovery. You'll also see many HOT volunteers, partners and members are listed as providing input to the report. The power of having what we do codified into reports like this is an important aspect to the work HOT does. Every time it happens it makes it that much easier to coordinate with traditional institutions and interest them in the power of open data. Best, -Kate (1) https://www.gfdrr.org/ODRIFG ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org
Re: [HOT] OpenDRI Field Guide Released
Hi John and Robert, Thanks for the insights and timeline (April) ; to what extent John would you re-edit given small parts of the guide? Ciao, Nico On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:46 AM, John Crowley bostonce...@gmail.comwrote: Nico, Good idea. I will be converting the whole text of the document to Markdown format and checking into Github. The information graphics would be more of a challenge. They will require someone with Adobe Creative Suite skills... April would be a good time frame to explore this opportunity... John Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse typos and brevity. On Mar 22, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Robert Soden robert.so...@gmail.com wrote: Nico, Great idea. I know John is looking at making a few edits to this current version. The final version should be out by late April I would guess. I think we'd be more than happy to facilitate any translation efforts then. Cheers, Robert On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:16 AM, nicolas chavent nicolas.chav...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kate, John, Robert and all, Thanks for sharing this comprehensive piece about OpenDRI, there's obviously a lot to digest and to discuss. This can probably be a work session of those willing to form a Lessons Learned Working Group in HOT (prior it goes formal). I quickly skimmed through it, and was wondering about any plan from GFDRR to get it translated into other languages, French, but not only? Under licensing translation at the beginning, reads the below : Translations --If you create a translation of this work, please add the following disclaimer along with the attribution: This translation was not created by The World Bank and should not be considered an official World Bank translation. The World Bank shall not be liable for any content or error in this translation In case the report comes with no attached translation plans, can we seek to get it translated relying on partners (Translators W/o Borders - TWB or other groups) or on our community's strengths ? Thanks On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Hi All, I wanted to point out to you that the Open Data for Resilience Initiative: Field Guide was released yesterday(1). This is an exciting report authored by John Crowley and our friends at the World Bank Global Facility for Disaster Reduction and Recovery. You'll also see many HOT volunteers, partners and members are listed as providing input to the report. The power of having what we do codified into reports like this is an important aspect to the work HOT does. Every time it happens it makes it that much easier to coordinate with traditional institutions and interest them in the power of open data. Best, -Kate (1) https://www.gfdrr.org/ODRIFG ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- Nicolas Chavent Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team http://hot.openstreetmap.org/ Mobile (FRA): +33 (0)6 52 40 78 20 Email: nicolas.chav...@hotosm.org Email: nicolas.chav...@gmail.com Skype: c_nicolas Twitter: nicolas_chavent -- Nicolas Chavent Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team http://hot.openstreetmap.org/ Mobile (FRA): +33 (0)6 52 40 78 20 Email: nicolas.chav...@hotosm.org Email: nicolas.chav...@gmail.com Skype: c_nicolas Twitter: nicolas_chavent ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] OpenDRI Field Guide Released
Nico, Good idea. I will be converting the whole text of the document to Markdown format and checking into Github. The information graphics would be more of a challenge. They will require someone with Adobe Creative Suite skills... April would be a good time frame to explore this opportunity... John Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse typos and brevity. On Mar 22, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Robert Soden robert.so...@gmail.com wrote: Nico, Great idea. I know John is looking at making a few edits to this current version. The final version should be out by late April I would guess. I think we'd be more than happy to facilitate any translation efforts then. Cheers, Robert On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:16 AM, nicolas chavent nicolas.chav...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kate, John, Robert and all, Thanks for sharing this comprehensive piece about OpenDRI, there's obviously a lot to digest and to discuss. This can probably be a work session of those willing to form a Lessons Learned Working Group in HOT (prior it goes formal). I quickly skimmed through it, and was wondering about any plan from GFDRR to get it translated into other languages, French, but not only? Under licensing translation at the beginning, reads the below : Translations —If you create a translation of this work, please add the following disclaimer along with the attribution: This translation was not created by The World Bank and should not be considered an official World Bank translation. The World Bank shall not be liable for any content or error in this translation In case the report comes with no attached translation plans, can we seek to get it translated relying on partners (Translators W/o Borders - TWB or other groups) or on our community's strengths ? Thanks On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Hi All, I wanted to point out to you that the Open Data for Resilience Initiative: Field Guide was released yesterday(1). This is an exciting report authored by John Crowley and our friends at the World Bank Global Facility for Disaster Reduction and Recovery. You'll also see many HOT volunteers, partners and members are listed as providing input to the report. The power of having what we do codified into reports like this is an important aspect to the work HOT does. Every time it happens it makes it that much easier to coordinate with traditional institutions and interest them in the power of open data. Best, -Kate (1) https://www.gfdrr.org/ODRIFG ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- Nicolas Chavent Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team http://hot.openstreetmap.org/ Mobile (FRA): +33 (0)6 52 40 78 20 Email: nicolas.chav...@hotosm.org Email: nicolas.chav...@gmail.com Skype: c_nicolas Twitter: nicolas_chavent ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] OpenDRI Field Guide Released
Nico, Great idea. I know John is looking at making a few edits to this current version. The final version should be out by late April I would guess. I think we'd be more than happy to facilitate any translation efforts then. Cheers, Robert On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:16 AM, nicolas chavent nicolas.chav...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kate, John, Robert and all, Thanks for sharing this comprehensive piece about OpenDRI, there's obviously a lot to digest and to discuss. This can probably be a work session of those willing to form a Lessons Learned Working Group in HOT (prior it goes formal). I quickly skimmed through it, and was wondering about any plan from GFDRR to get it translated into other languages, French, but not only? Under licensing translation at the beginning, reads the below : Translations --If you create a translation of this work, please add the following disclaimer along with the attribution: This translation was not created by The World Bank and should not be considered an official World Bank translation. The World Bank shall not be liable for any content or error in this translation In case the report comes with no attached translation plans, can we seek to get it translated relying on partners (Translators W/o Borders - TWB or other groups) or on our community's strengths ? Thanks On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Hi All, I wanted to point out to you that the Open Data for Resilience Initiative: Field Guide was released yesterday(1). This is an exciting report authored by John Crowley and our friends at the World Bank Global Facility for Disaster Reduction and Recovery. You'll also see many HOT volunteers, partners and members are listed as providing input to the report. The power of having what we do codified into reports like this is an important aspect to the work HOT does. Every time it happens it makes it that much easier to coordinate with traditional institutions and interest them in the power of open data. Best, -Kate (1) https://www.gfdrr.org/ODRIFG ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- Nicolas Chavent Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team http://hot.openstreetmap.org/ Mobile (FRA): +33 (0)6 52 40 78 20 Email: nicolas.chav...@hotosm.org Email: nicolas.chav...@gmail.com Skype: c_nicolas Twitter: nicolas_chavent ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] OpenDRI Field Guide Released
Hi All, I wanted to point out to you that the Open Data for Resilience Initiative: Field Guide was released yesterday(1). This is an exciting report authored by John Crowley and our friends at the World Bank Global Facility for Disaster Reduction and Recovery. You'll also see many HOT volunteers, partners and members are listed as providing input to the report. The power of having what we do codified into reports like this is an important aspect to the work HOT does. Every time it happens it makes it that much easier to coordinate with traditional institutions and interest them in the power of open data. Best, -Kate (1) https://www.gfdrr.org/ODRIFG ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
