Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

2014-11-26 Thread Blake Girardot
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Markware Software Services 
markwaresoftw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all, if you need it, I have a Geoserver Instance not doing much at the
 moment that could be used. geoserver loves geoTiffs. It is trivial to set
 it up. Just a matter of dropping the Geotiff into a directory, configuring
 a layer and its ready to go.

 Its a 2TB 32Gb Ram Ubuntu Trusty Server with lots of bandwidth available.



This sounds good to me. In the mean time I have a TileStasch server set up
for testing/learning.

It sounds like the next step is just get one sample Skybox for Good GeoTiff
file for deloyment Mark.

There was a blog post that said downloads were offered in MBTile format as
well. I have no idea which would be easier to work with.

Can we get any random Skybox for Good GeoTiff to get started with?

Cheers,
Blake





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 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Sign me up to help get the map tile server set up and running. I am
 glad to get it set up and admin it to get started while workflow
 shakes out.

 Disclaimer: I have no idea how to do either of the above, but I learn
 fast.

 Cheers,
 Blake

 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Mikel Maron mikel.ma...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hey
 
  A few notes from talking this through with Josh
 
  * Requests for SkyBox imagery would go through the usual HOT imagery
  coordination process
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation#Imagery_Coordination
  * Use of SkyBox imagery for HOT activations would be coordinated through
  tasking manager projects.
  * The listing of all SkyBox for good requests is at
 
 https://mapsengine.google.com/00979750194450688595-08887688179650036554-4/mapview/?authuser=0
 .
  We'd go through the coordination processes above, if a HOT activation
 wanted
  to use existing imagery.
  * At the moment, there is no tile service. HOT would need to set up
 tiles
  from a downloaded GeoTIFF.
 
  Hope that clears things up.
 
  Btw, would be good to simply set up a test with one of the SkyBox for
 good
  GeoTIFFs, to see how it compares with Bing georeferencing and
 resolution.
 
  Best
  Mikel
 


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Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

2014-11-25 Thread Mikel Maron
Hey
A few notes from talking this through with Josh
* Requests for SkyBox imagery would go through the usual HOT imagery 
coordination process 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation#Imagery_Coordination* Use of 
SkyBox imagery for HOT activations would be coordinated through tasking manager 
projects.* The listing of all SkyBox for good requests is at 
https://mapsengine.google.com/00979750194450688595-08887688179650036554-4/mapview/?authuser=0.
 We'd go through the coordination processes above, if a HOT activation wanted 
to use existing imagery.* At the moment, there is no tile service. HOT would 
need to set up tiles from a downloaded GeoTIFF.
Hope that clears things up.
Btw, would be good to simply set up a test with one of the SkyBox for good 
GeoTIFFs, to see how it compares with Bing georeferencing and resolution.
BestMikel  
* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron 

   

  On Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:34 AM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:
   
 

 These are great news for HOT Activations.
In the context of the Ebola outbreak, we have large territories to cover in 
West Africa. There are various areas not yet well covered with high-res 
imagery. With the sudden resurgence in various areas, we have to try to find 
rapidly imagery.  Imagery could be also helpful to do some prevention mapping 
in areas at risk, with limitroph regions having a spread of the epidemy. There 
are areas in east Guinea and West Ivory Coast with no high-res imagery.

We have the capacity to mount a tms server. If there are Skymap imagery 
archives, What would help us is to have access to a catalog of metadata for 
this imagery and a protocol to request for imagery.
regard   Pierre 

  De : Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz
 À : Satoshi IIDA nyamp...@gmail.com; Pat Tressel ptres...@myuw.net 
Cc : hot hot@openstreetmap.org 
 Envoyé le : Samedi 22 novembre 2014 2h52
 Objet : Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery
   
 Hi Satoshi,
 
 Yes.  My fault for delaying this but now done. Hence Josh' announcement. I am 
happy that:
 

   - The provider is aware of what we will do with their imagery and data 
derived from it.
   - The provider has given their explicit permission to include derived data 
into the OSM database.   
 
   - The proposed attribution mechanism, adding source to tags and/or change 
sets is practical, (the imagery will only be released in the context of HOT 
projects).  I have also added a new section for HOT under 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution .   
 
 
 Mike
 LWG
  


 On 22/11/2014 01:15, Satoshi IIDA wrote:
  

  Hello,
 
  As my understanding, using Skybox imagery is a task for LWG currently.
 
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071318.html
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071320.html
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071295.html
 
  Are there any progress since the discussion?
  
 

 2014-11-22 8:43 GMT+09:00 Pat Tressel ptres...@myuw.net:
 
 Josh --
 
  
  As some of you may be aware, we recently announced the Skybox for Good 
program. 
  We know that some of this imagery can be especially useful in Crisis Response 
situations, and therefore we are explicitly authorizing usage of Skybox for 
Good imagery in any current HOT Activation, under the condition that changesets 
and/or features that are derived from Skybox for Good imagery and committed to 
OSM are attributed to Skybox.  
 
  That's fantastic news!!
 
  Ok, folks, who gets to send the formal Thank You?  I bet that's the 
communications working group.  And I also bet it's safe to infer a whole bunch 
of individual thank-yous.  ;-)
    
  
  This could, for example, include the method of attributing Skybox as the 
source, or a similar method deemed appropriate by HOT.
   
 
  We had that older thread about imagery tagging, where it came down to 
source (used since forever) and the new, automatically-added imagery_used 
tag in iD, which, it was pointed out, might not be accurate if the user 
switches imagery temporarily -- would have to see what iD does in that case.  
One thought -- maybe it would be good to add imagery_used in JOSM with the 
same behavior as iD, just so they're consistent.  We'd keep adding source, but 
imagery_used would be there as a fallback.  Task validators can also check for 
a source tag, since a task usually specifies a set of imagery.
 
   -- Pat
  
 
  
 
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Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

2014-11-25 Thread Pierre Béland
Thanks Mikel,
Once imageries are available for the West Africa countries affected by the 
Ebola outbreak emergency, we could surely try these to help to the response. 
Pierre 

  De : Mikel Maron mikel.ma...@gmail.com
 À : Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr; m...@ayeltd.biz m...@ayeltd.biz; 
Satoshi IIDA nyamp...@gmail.com; Pat Tressel ptres...@myuw.net 
Cc : hot hot@openstreetmap.org; legal-t...@openstreetmap.org 
legal-t...@openstreetmap.org 
 Envoyé le : Mardi 25 novembre 2014 16h56
 Objet : Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery
   
Hey
A few notes from talking this through with Josh
* Requests for SkyBox imagery would go through the usual HOT imagery 
coordination process 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation#Imagery_Coordination* Use of 
SkyBox imagery for HOT activations would be coordinated through tasking manager 
projects.* The listing of all SkyBox for good requests is at 
https://mapsengine.google.com/00979750194450688595-08887688179650036554-4/mapview/?authuser=0.
 We'd go through the coordination processes above, if a HOT activation wanted 
to use existing imagery.* At the moment, there is no tile service. HOT would 
need to set up tiles from a downloaded GeoTIFF.
Hope that clears things up.
Btw, would be good to simply set up a test with one of the SkyBox for good 
GeoTIFFs, to see how it compares with Bing georeferencing and resolution.
BestMikel  
* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron 

   

  On Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:34 AM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:
   
 

 These are great news for HOT Activations.
In the context of the Ebola outbreak, we have large territories to cover in 
West Africa. There are various areas not yet well covered with high-res 
imagery. With the sudden resurgence in various areas, we have to try to find 
rapidly imagery.  Imagery could be also helpful to do some prevention mapping 
in areas at risk, with limitroph regions having a spread of the epidemy. There 
are areas in east Guinea and West Ivory Coast with no high-res imagery.

We have the capacity to mount a tms server. If there are Skymap imagery 
archives, What would help us is to have access to a catalog of metadata for 
this imagery and a protocol to request for imagery.
regard   Pierre 

  De : Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz
 À : Satoshi IIDA nyamp...@gmail.com; Pat Tressel ptres...@myuw.net 
Cc : hot hot@openstreetmap.org 
 Envoyé le : Samedi 22 novembre 2014 2h52
 Objet : Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery
   
 Hi Satoshi,
 
 Yes.  My fault for delaying this but now done. Hence Josh' announcement. I am 
happy that:
 

   - The provider is aware of what we will do with their imagery and data 
derived from it.
   - The provider has given their explicit permission to include derived data 
into the OSM database.   
 
   - The proposed attribution mechanism, adding source to tags and/or change 
sets is practical, (the imagery will only be released in the context of HOT 
projects).  I have also added a new section for HOT under 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution .   
 
 
 Mike
 LWG
  


 On 22/11/2014 01:15, Satoshi IIDA wrote:
  

  Hello,
 
  As my understanding, using Skybox imagery is a task for LWG currently.
 
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071318.html
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071320.html
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071295.html
 
  Are there any progress since the discussion?
  
 

 2014-11-22 8:43 GMT+09:00 Pat Tressel ptres...@myuw.net:
 
 Josh --
 
  
  As some of you may be aware, we recently announced the Skybox for Good 
program. 
  We know that some of this imagery can be especially useful in Crisis Response 
situations, and therefore we are explicitly authorizing usage of Skybox for 
Good imagery in any current HOT Activation, under the condition that changesets 
and/or features that are derived from Skybox for Good imagery and committed to 
OSM are attributed to Skybox.  
 
  That's fantastic news!!
 
  Ok, folks, who gets to send the formal Thank You?  I bet that's the 
communications working group.  And I also bet it's safe to infer a whole bunch 
of individual thank-yous.  ;-)
    
  
  This could, for example, include the method of attributing Skybox as the 
source, or a similar method deemed appropriate by HOT.
   
 
  We had that older thread about imagery tagging, where it came down to 
source (used since forever) and the new, automatically-added imagery_used 
tag in iD, which, it was pointed out, might not be accurate if the user 
switches imagery temporarily -- would have to see what iD does in that case.  
One thought -- maybe it would be good to add imagery_used in JOSM with the 
same behavior as iD, just so they're consistent.  We'd keep adding source, but 
imagery_used would be there as a fallback.  Task validators can also check for 
a source tag, since a task usually specifies a set of imagery.
 
   -- Pat

Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

2014-11-25 Thread Blake Girardot
Sign me up to help get the map tile server set up and running. I am
glad to get it set up and admin it to get started while workflow
shakes out.

Disclaimer: I have no idea how to do either of the above, but I learn fast.

Cheers,
Blake

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Mikel Maron mikel.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey

 A few notes from talking this through with Josh

 * Requests for SkyBox imagery would go through the usual HOT imagery
 coordination process
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation#Imagery_Coordination
 * Use of SkyBox imagery for HOT activations would be coordinated through
 tasking manager projects.
 * The listing of all SkyBox for good requests is at
 https://mapsengine.google.com/00979750194450688595-08887688179650036554-4/mapview/?authuser=0.
 We'd go through the coordination processes above, if a HOT activation wanted
 to use existing imagery.
 * At the moment, there is no tile service. HOT would need to set up tiles
 from a downloaded GeoTIFF.

 Hope that clears things up.

 Btw, would be good to simply set up a test with one of the SkyBox for good
 GeoTIFFs, to see how it compares with Bing georeferencing and resolution.

 Best
 Mikel


 * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron




 On Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:34 AM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr
 wrote:



 These are great news for HOT Activations.

 In the context of the Ebola outbreak, we have large territories to cover in
 West Africa. There are various areas not yet well covered with high-res
 imagery. With the sudden resurgence in various areas, we have to try to find
 rapidly imagery.  Imagery could be also helpful to do some prevention
 mapping in areas at risk, with limitroph regions having a spread of the
 epidemy. There are areas in east Guinea and West Ivory Coast with no
 high-res imagery.

 We have the capacity to mount a tms server. If there are Skymap imagery
 archives, What would help us is to have access to a catalog of metadata for
 this imagery and a protocol to request for imagery.

 regard

 Pierre

 
 De : Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz
 À : Satoshi IIDA nyamp...@gmail.com; Pat Tressel ptres...@myuw.net
 Cc : hot hot@openstreetmap.org
 Envoyé le : Samedi 22 novembre 2014 2h52
 Objet : Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

 Hi Satoshi,

 Yes.  My fault for delaying this but now done. Hence Josh' announcement. I
 am happy that:

 The provider is aware of what we will do with their imagery and data derived
 from it.
 The provider has given their explicit permission to include derived data
 into the OSM database.
 The proposed attribution mechanism, adding source to tags and/or change sets
 is practical, (the imagery will only be released in the context of HOT
 projects).  I have also added a new section for HOT under
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution .


 Mike
 LWG



 On 22/11/2014 01:15, Satoshi IIDA wrote:


 Hello,

 As my understanding, using Skybox imagery is a task for LWG currently.

 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071318.html
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071320.html
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071295.html

 Are there any progress since the discussion?



 2014-11-22 8:43 GMT+09:00 Pat Tressel ptres...@myuw.net:

 Josh --

 As some of you may be aware, we recently announced the Skybox for Good
 program.

 We know that some of this imagery can be especially useful in Crisis
 Response situations, and therefore we are explicitly authorizing usage of
 Skybox for Good imagery in any current HOT Activation, under the condition
 that changesets and/or features that are derived from Skybox for Good
 imagery and committed to OSM are attributed to Skybox.


 That's fantastic news!!

 Ok, folks, who gets to send the formal Thank You?  I bet that's the
 communications working group.  And I also bet it's safe to infer a whole
 bunch of individual thank-yous.  ;-)


 This could, for example, include the method of attributing Skybox as the
 source, or a similar method deemed appropriate by HOT.


 We had that older thread about imagery tagging, where it came down to
 source (used since forever) and the new, automatically-added
 imagery_used tag in iD, which, it was pointed out, might not be accurate
 if the user switches imagery temporarily -- would have to see what iD does
 in that case.  One thought -- maybe it would be good to add imagery_used
 in JOSM with the same behavior as iD, just so they're consistent.  We'd keep
 adding source, but imagery_used would be there as a fallback.  Task
 validators can also check for a source tag, since a task usually specifies a
 set of imagery.

 -- Pat




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Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

2014-11-25 Thread Markware Software Services
Hi all, if you need it, I have a Geoserver Instance not doing much at the
moment that could be used. geoserver loves geoTiffs. It is trivial to set
it up. Just a matter of dropping the Geotiff into a directory, configuring
a layer and its ready to go.

Its a 2TB 32Gb Ram Ubuntu Trusty Server with lots of bandwidth available.

Regards

Mark Cupitt

If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence

See me on Open Street Map https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mark_Cupitt

See me on LinkedIn http://ph.linkedin.com/in/markcupitt



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On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sign me up to help get the map tile server set up and running. I am
 glad to get it set up and admin it to get started while workflow
 shakes out.

 Disclaimer: I have no idea how to do either of the above, but I learn fast.

 Cheers,
 Blake

 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Mikel Maron mikel.ma...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hey
 
  A few notes from talking this through with Josh
 
  * Requests for SkyBox imagery would go through the usual HOT imagery
  coordination process
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation#Imagery_Coordination
  * Use of SkyBox imagery for HOT activations would be coordinated through
  tasking manager projects.
  * The listing of all SkyBox for good requests is at
 
 https://mapsengine.google.com/00979750194450688595-08887688179650036554-4/mapview/?authuser=0
 .
  We'd go through the coordination processes above, if a HOT activation
 wanted
  to use existing imagery.
  * At the moment, there is no tile service. HOT would need to set up tiles
  from a downloaded GeoTIFF.
 
  Hope that clears things up.
 
  Btw, would be good to simply set up a test with one of the SkyBox for
 good
  GeoTIFFs, to see how it compares with Bing georeferencing and resolution.
 
  Best
  Mikel
 
 
  * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
 
 
 
 
  On Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:34 AM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr
  wrote:
 
 
 
  These are great news for HOT Activations.
 
  In the context of the Ebola outbreak, we have large territories to cover
 in
  West Africa. There are various areas not yet well covered with high-res
  imagery. With the sudden resurgence in various areas, we have to try to
 find
  rapidly imagery.  Imagery could be also helpful to do some prevention
  mapping in areas at risk, with limitroph regions having a spread of the
  epidemy. There are areas in east Guinea and West Ivory Coast with no
  high-res imagery.
 
  We have the capacity to mount a tms server. If there are Skymap imagery
  archives, What would help us is to have access to a catalog of metadata
 for
  this imagery and a protocol to request for imagery.
 
  regard
 
  Pierre
 
  
  De : Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz
  À : Satoshi IIDA nyamp...@gmail.com; Pat Tressel ptres...@myuw.net
  Cc : hot hot@openstreetmap.org
  Envoyé le : Samedi 22 novembre 2014 2h52
  Objet : Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery
 
  Hi Satoshi,
 
  Yes.  My fault for delaying this but now done. Hence Josh' announcement.
 I
  am happy that:
 
  The provider is aware of what we will do with their imagery and data
 derived
  from it.
  The provider has given their explicit permission to include derived data
  into the OSM database.
  The proposed attribution mechanism, adding source to tags and/or change
 sets
  is practical, (the imagery will only be released in the context of HOT
  projects).  I have also added a new section for HOT under
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution .
 
 
  Mike
  LWG
 
 
 
  On 22/11/2014 01:15, Satoshi IIDA wrote:
 
 
  Hello,
 
  As my understanding, using Skybox imagery is a task for LWG currently.
 
  https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071318.html
  https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071320.html
  https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071295.html
 
  Are there any progress since the discussion?
 
 
 
  2014-11-22 8:43 GMT+09:00 Pat Tressel ptres...@myuw.net:
 
  Josh --
 
  As some of you may be aware, we recently announced the Skybox for Good
  program.
 
  We know that some of this imagery can be especially useful in Crisis
  Response situations, and therefore we are explicitly authorizing usage of
  Skybox for Good imagery

Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

2014-11-23 Thread Satoshi IIDA
Hello Michael.

Thank you for efforts! And congrats! :)

 the imagery will only be released in the context of HOT projects
AFAIK, imagery are now released in geo-tiff format, so target area is very
limited.
It is very suitable for this context.

If they publish more broader area, and published in TMS or other format in
future,
we should consider such a situation.

At least now, I'm very happy to hear this statement.
Thanks again!



2014-11-22 16:52 GMT+09:00 Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz:

  Hi Satoshi,

 Yes.  My fault for delaying this but now done. Hence Josh' announcement. I
 am happy that:


- The provider is aware of what we will do with their imagery and data
derived from it.
- The provider has given their explicit permission to include derived
data into the OSM database.
 - The proposed attribution mechanism, adding source to tags and/or
change sets is practical, (the imagery will only be released in the context
of HOT projects).  I have also added a new section for HOT under
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution .


 Mike
 LWG

 On 22/11/2014 01:15, Satoshi IIDA wrote:


  Hello,

  As my understanding, using Skybox imagery is a task for LWG currently.

 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071318.html
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071320.html
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071295.html

  Are there any progress since the discussion?



 2014-11-22 8:43 GMT+09:00 Pat Tressel ptres...@myuw.net:

 Josh --

   As some of you may be aware, we recently announced the Skybox for Good
 http://www.skyboximaging.com/blog/introducing-skybox-for-good program.

  We know that some of this imagery can be especially useful in Crisis
 Response situations, and therefore we are explicitly authorizing usage of
 Skybox for Good imagery in any current HOT Activation
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation, under the
 condition that changesets and/or features that are derived from Skybox for
 Good imagery and committed to OSM are attributed to Skybox.


  That's fantastic news!!

  Ok, folks, who gets to send the formal Thank You?  I bet that's the
 communications working group.  And I also bet it's safe to infer a whole
 bunch of individual thank-yous.  ;-)


  This could, for example, include the method of attributing Skybox as
 the source, or a similar method deemed appropriate by HOT.


  We had that older thread about imagery tagging, where it came down to
 source (used since forever) and the new, automatically-added
 imagery_used tag in iD, which, it was pointed out, might not be accurate
 if the user switches imagery temporarily -- would have to see what iD does
 in that case.  One thought -- maybe it would be good to add imagery_used
 in JOSM with the same behavior as iD, just so they're consistent.  We'd
 keep adding source, but imagery_used would be there as a fallback.  Task
 validators can also check for a source tag, since a task usually specifies
 a set of imagery.

  -- Pat




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Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

2014-11-23 Thread Pierre Béland
These are great news for HOT Activations.
In the context of the Ebola outbreak, we have large territories to cover in 
West Africa. There are various areas not yet well covered with high-res 
imagery. With the sudden resurgence in various areas, we have to try to find 
rapidly imagery.  Imagery could be also helpful to do some prevention mapping 
in areas at risk, with limitroph regions having a spread of the epidemy. There 
are areas in east Guinea and West Ivory Coast with no high-res imagery.

We have the capacity to mount a tms server. If there are Skymap imagery 
archives, What would help us is to have access to a catalog of metadata for 
this imagery and a protocol to request for imagery.
regard   Pierre 

  De : Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz
 À : Satoshi IIDA nyamp...@gmail.com; Pat Tressel ptres...@myuw.net 
Cc : hot hot@openstreetmap.org 
 Envoyé le : Samedi 22 novembre 2014 2h52
 Objet : Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery
   
 Hi Satoshi,
 
 Yes.  My fault for delaying this but now done. Hence Josh' announcement. I am 
happy that:
 

   - The provider is aware of what we will do with their imagery and data 
derived from it.
   - The provider has given their explicit permission to include derived data 
into the OSM database.   
 
   - The proposed attribution mechanism, adding source to tags and/or change 
sets is practical, (the imagery will only be released in the context of HOT 
projects).  I have also added a new section for HOT under 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution .   
 
 
 Mike
 LWG
  


 On 22/11/2014 01:15, Satoshi IIDA wrote:
  

  Hello,
 
  As my understanding, using Skybox imagery is a task for LWG currently.
 
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071318.html
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071320.html
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071295.html
 
  Are there any progress since the discussion?
  
 

 2014-11-22 8:43 GMT+09:00 Pat Tressel ptres...@myuw.net:
 
 Josh --
 
  
  As some of you may be aware, we recently announced the Skybox for Good 
program. 
  We know that some of this imagery can be especially useful in Crisis Response 
situations, and therefore we are explicitly authorizing usage of Skybox for 
Good imagery in any current HOT Activation, under the condition that changesets 
and/or features that are derived from Skybox for Good imagery and committed to 
OSM are attributed to Skybox.  
 
  That's fantastic news!!
 
  Ok, folks, who gets to send the formal Thank You?  I bet that's the 
communications working group.  And I also bet it's safe to infer a whole bunch 
of individual thank-yous.  ;-)
    
  
  This could, for example, include the method of attributing Skybox as the 
source, or a similar method deemed appropriate by HOT.
   
 
  We had that older thread about imagery tagging, where it came down to 
source (used since forever) and the new, automatically-added imagery_used 
tag in iD, which, it was pointed out, might not be accurate if the user 
switches imagery temporarily -- would have to see what iD does in that case.  
One thought -- maybe it would be good to add imagery_used in JOSM with the 
same behavior as iD, just so they're consistent.  We'd keep adding source, but 
imagery_used would be there as a fallback.  Task validators can also check for 
a source tag, since a task usually specifies a set of imagery.
 
   -- Pat
  
 
  
 
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Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

2014-11-21 Thread Pat Tressel
Josh --

As some of you may be aware, we recently announced the Skybox for Good
 http://www.skyboximaging.com/blog/introducing-skybox-for-good program.

 We know that some of this imagery can be especially useful in Crisis
 Response situations, and therefore we are explicitly authorizing usage of
 Skybox for Good imagery in any current HOT Activation
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation, under the condition
 that changesets and/or features that are derived from Skybox for Good
 imagery and committed to OSM are attributed to Skybox.


That's fantastic news!!

Ok, folks, who gets to send the formal Thank You?  I bet that's the
communications working group.  And I also bet it's safe to infer a whole
bunch of individual thank-yous.  ;-)


 This could, for example, include the method of attributing Skybox as the
 source, or a similar method deemed appropriate by HOT.


We had that older thread about imagery tagging, where it came down to
source (used since forever) and the new, automatically-added
imagery_used tag in iD, which, it was pointed out, might not be accurate
if the user switches imagery temporarily -- would have to see what iD does
in that case.  One thought -- maybe it would be good to add imagery_used
in JOSM with the same behavior as iD, just so they're consistent.  We'd
keep adding source, but imagery_used would be there as a fallback.  Task
validators can also check for a source tag, since a task usually specifies
a set of imagery.

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Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

2014-11-21 Thread Satoshi IIDA
Hello,

As my understanding, using Skybox imagery is a task for LWG currently.

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071318.html
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071320.html
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071295.html

Are there any progress since the discussion?



2014-11-22 8:43 GMT+09:00 Pat Tressel ptres...@myuw.net:

 Josh --

 As some of you may be aware, we recently announced the Skybox for Good
 http://www.skyboximaging.com/blog/introducing-skybox-for-good program.

 We know that some of this imagery can be especially useful in Crisis
 Response situations, and therefore we are explicitly authorizing usage of
 Skybox for Good imagery in any current HOT Activation
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation, under the condition
 that changesets and/or features that are derived from Skybox for Good
 imagery and committed to OSM are attributed to Skybox.


 That's fantastic news!!

 Ok, folks, who gets to send the formal Thank You?  I bet that's the
 communications working group.  And I also bet it's safe to infer a whole
 bunch of individual thank-yous.  ;-)


 This could, for example, include the method of attributing Skybox as the
 source, or a similar method deemed appropriate by HOT.


 We had that older thread about imagery tagging, where it came down to
 source (used since forever) and the new, automatically-added
 imagery_used tag in iD, which, it was pointed out, might not be accurate
 if the user switches imagery temporarily -- would have to see what iD does
 in that case.  One thought -- maybe it would be good to add imagery_used
 in JOSM with the same behavior as iD, just so they're consistent.  We'd
 keep adding source, but imagery_used would be there as a fallback.  Task
 validators can also check for a source tag, since a task usually specifies
 a set of imagery.

 -- Pat




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Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

2014-11-21 Thread Michael Collinson

Hi Satoshi,

Yes.  My fault for delaying this but now done. Hence Josh' announcement. 
I am happy that:


 * The provider is aware of what we will do with their imagery and data
   derived from it.
 * The provider has given their explicit permission to include derived
   data into the OSM database.
 * The proposed attribution mechanism, adding source to tags and/or
   change sets is practical, (the imagery will only be released in the
   context of HOT projects).  I have also added a new section for HOT
   under http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution .


Mike
LWG


On 22/11/2014 01:15, Satoshi IIDA wrote:


Hello,

As my understanding, using Skybox imagery is a task for LWG currently.

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071318.html
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071320.html
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071295.html

Are there any progress since the discussion?



2014-11-22 8:43 GMT+09:00 Pat Tressel ptres...@myuw.net 
mailto:ptres...@myuw.net:


Josh --

As some of you may be aware, we recently announced the Skybox
for Good
http://www.skyboximaging.com/blog/introducing-skybox-for-goodprogram.

We know that some of this imagery can be especially useful in
Crisis Response situations, and therefore we are explicitly
authorizing usage of Skybox for Good imagery in any current
HOT Activation
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation, under the
condition that changesets and/or features that are derived
from Skybox for Good imagery and committed to OSM are
attributed to Skybox.


That's fantastic news!!

Ok, folks, who gets to send the formal Thank You?  I bet
that's the communications working group.  And I also bet it's safe
to infer a whole bunch of individual thank-yous.  ;-)

This could, for example, include the method of attributing
Skybox as the source, or a similar method deemed appropriate
by HOT.


We had that older thread about imagery tagging, where it came down
to source (used since forever) and the new, automatically-added
imagery_used tag in iD, which, it was pointed out, might not be
accurate if the user switches imagery temporarily -- would have to
see what iD does in that case.  One thought -- maybe it would be
good to add imagery_used in JOSM with the same behavior as iD,
just so they're consistent.  We'd keep adding source, but
imagery_used would be there as a fallback.  Task validators can
also check for a source tag, since a task usually specifies a set
of imagery.

-- Pat




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