Re: [Hpr] Permission to move out a show

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Lol @ woke. You don’t know me very well. 

If it helps your examples are mostly acceptable to me. 

I would argue against some of them on the grounds that they are not hacking, 
technology, or culture related. Not even loosely. 

I defended allowing the covid alternative treatment episodes last year when the 
“woke” mob were trying to censor that one.  And I suggested a follow up show as 
counterpoints exactly as you suggested. 

So yeah. I still say nothing illegal and stand by that. I can’t even think of 
an example but we will bring it up if we see it. It will be a transparent 
decision just like ken is doing now. 

-DB

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> On Mar 23, 2022, at 3:25 PM, Jannik Pruitt  wrote:
> 
> 
>  "hateful or illegal activity"
> Wow that is a bit woke.  Or the Uk version of no god and socialist.
> 
> One mans hate is other one's joy.
> 
> illegal has many faces to.  If you live in a dry county would a show about 
> homemade beer be illegal?
> 
> If you think the first black woman nominated to the supreme court is or is 
> not qualified is that hate speech?  What about transgender athletes?  Pro or 
> con hate speech.  KDE Vs xfce?  Is that that hate speech?  What about Covid 
> or abortion it all fits under hateful.
> 
> It is too wide a net for Ken and Dave to censor far better to make a follow 
> up show if you disagree.
> 
> jwp
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, 23 Mar 2022, 07:47 stankd...@stankdawg.com, 
>>  wrote:
>> Replying to the original but read all the responses. 
>> 
>> I trust Ken completely. He is only taking this step for better communication 
>> with the contributor and the community. He has that much respect to be open 
>> about it. Don’t overthink it.  Don’t jump to conclusions on any reasons 
>> until the communication is complete. You may never even find out. 
>> 
>> Also. In general, all of us behind HPR believe in free speech and are 
>> against censorship. But just like forums or tv shows or web sites we must 
>> have boundaries. Again I have no idea if there are content issues with this 
>> show that cross any of those boundaries or any show. But don’t cry 
>> censorship if I or the admins/janitors/etc choose to disallow a show that 
>> promotes hateful or illegal activity. That is not censorship. That is safety 
>> and responsibility.  You must trust the system and again I trust Ken 
>> completely.  
>> 
>> Start giving these people the benefit of the doubt and assume positive 
>> intent of the people who have been successfully running this show for 
>> several years. I am certain that they have earned that respect. 
>> 
>> -StankDawg
>> 
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>> > On Mar 21, 2022, at 4:42 AM, Ken Fallon  wrote:
>> > 
>> > Hi All,
>> > 
>> > One of the shows in the queue has some issues. I spoke to the host about 
>> > it and it is not clear if they want to remove it or replace it. I think 
>> > they are off line for a bit as they haven't replied.
>> > 
>> > Can I move the show out past the Community News so that the current slot 
>> > can be freed up ? Hopefully that will give time for the host to reply.
>> > 
>> > -- 
>> > Regards,
>> > 
>> > Ken Fallon (PA7KEN,G5KEN)
>> > https://kenfallon.com
>> > https://hackerpublicradio.org/hosts/ken_fallon
>> > 
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Re: [Hpr] Permission to move out a show

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Replying to the original but read all the responses. 

I trust Ken completely. He is only taking this step for better communication 
with the contributor and the community. He has that much respect to be open 
about it. Don’t overthink it.  Don’t jump to conclusions on any reasons until 
the communication is complete. You may never even find out. 

Also. In general, all of us behind HPR believe in free speech and are against 
censorship. But just like forums or tv shows or web sites we must have 
boundaries. Again I have no idea if there are content issues with this show 
that cross any of those boundaries or any show. But don’t cry censorship if I 
or the admins/janitors/etc choose to disallow a show that promotes hateful or 
illegal activity. That is not censorship. That is safety and responsibility.  
You must trust the system and again I trust Ken completely.  

Start giving these people the benefit of the doubt and assume positive intent 
of the people who have been successfully running this show for several years. I 
am certain that they have earned that respect. 

-StankDawg

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> On Mar 21, 2022, at 4:42 AM, Ken Fallon  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> One of the shows in the queue has some issues. I spoke to the host about it 
> and it is not clear if they want to remove it or replace it. I think they are 
> off line for a bit as they haven't replied.
> 
> Can I move the show out past the Community News so that the current slot can 
> be freed up ? Hopefully that will give time for the host to reply.
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Ken Fallon (PA7KEN,G5KEN)
> https://kenfallon.com
> https://hackerpublicradio.org/hosts/ken_fallon
> 
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Re: [Hpr] Gitlab Server Getting Retired

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I use gitlab myself.  Why don’t we just switch over there?  It is free for 
small projects and a small number of users. 

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> On Jan 3, 2021, at 11:53 AM, jknap...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Folx,
>  
> I want to let you all know that the current GitLab Server is getting ready to 
> be retired at the end of the month.
>  
> There are a few reasons for this:
>  
> It is running CentOS6 (this server has been alive since the beginning)
> It was Wrong Sized (Way larger then was needed)
> We had an issue with a ton of spam accounts at one point (That issue was 
> mitigated, but due to the process that is required for removing the accounts, 
> they have only been disabled.)
>  
> There are more but I figured I would keep it short and sweet.
>  
> My question to you all, as the HPR project(s) are the only ones that have any 
> real activity besides some of my own, is there really a need for a private 
> gitlab server?  Would a free account with GitHub serve the cause, or am I 
> missing something?
>  
> Look forward to hearing back from everyone.
>  
> --Josh
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Re: [Hpr] Content Query

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I have always intended for this to be a show “by hackers for hackers” and think 
that MOST of the content should be specifically FOR the HPR audience of 
hackers.  I think it is certainly fine to mix in other shows or parts of other 
shows as they are relevant to hackers but I would like to keep it 90% custom 
shows for HPR. 

It is a Group/community podcast than a platform. Definitely not a network 
because that was what DDP hack radio was for. That network went down when we 
couldn’t keep enough good content coming. Now, we could probably do it but 
going to let that RIP. 

Just my thoughts and vision from the beginning. 

-StankDawg

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> On Jul 23, 2020, at 2:04 PM, Kevin O'Brien  wrote:
> 
> 
> "Content of interest to hackers" always worked for me.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> -- 
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> http://about.me/zwilnik
> “People shouldn't be afraid of their government. Governments should be afraid 
> of their people.” - Alan Moore, V for Vendetta
> 
> Public Key = F6283E7A
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:36 PM Ken Fallon  wrote:
>> Hi Marcus,
>> 
>> If you create material and post it first on HPR then it meets the
>> requirements you mention. That means once you upload it to the HPR
>> server you can publish it anywhere else you like.
>> 
>> You can ping the janitors at admin@hpr for more technical questions, as
>> this list goes to the community.
>> 
>> That said, this question (and three other queries I have had off the
>> mail list) does bring a fundamental question as to what HPR is. Are we a
>> Content Publication Network like youtube, or are we a Podcast that
>> random people contribute to ? Or to put it another way, is the host
>> addressing the Internet in general or the HPR Audience ?
>> 
>> I would like to hear the opinions of the community on this please.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Ken Fallon
>> http://kenfallon.com
>> http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30
>> 
>> 
>> On 2020-07-23 18:05, Marcus Wilson wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> > 
>> > I have some ideas and wanted to provide some shows.  I had a question
>> > about the interpretation of produced for hacker public radio.
>> > 
>> > "For this reason we are only releasing material created exclusively for
>> > HPR."
>> > 
>> > Can I do the show for HPR and then share the show on another community
>> > online radio channel later?  If it's CC-BY-SA I'd assume so but wanted
>> > to ask before I started working on my ideas.
>> > 
>> > Thank you very much,
>> > 
>> > Marcus
>> > 
>> 
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Re: [Hpr] Harassment on HPR

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Unacceptable. If I need to get involved let me know. Everyone already hates me 
already so I don’t kind pissing some people off if someone needs to be the 
disciplinarian. 

Maybe I record an episode about why this community is so shitty to itself 
sometimes?

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> On Dec 14, 2019, at 7:57 AM, Ken Fallon  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I have had disturbing reports that multiple hosts have been harassed
> after posting shows to HPR. After further investigation I have no reason
> to doubt that these reports are anything but genuine.
> 
> This has been a bit of a shock to me, as HPR has always seemed like a
> well-regulated community. I for one don't condone harassment or
> offensive behavior especially against people who have made the effort to
> contribute to the network. I believe that this is the view of the HPR
> Community in general, but I would like confirmation.
> 
> Therefore I formally propose the following policy change.
> 
> Modify http://hackerpublicradio.org/about.php#free_culture as follows:
> 
> < Hacker Public Radio is dedicated to sharing knowledge
> ---
>> Hacker Public Radio is dedicated to sharing knowledge in a welcoming
> community that offers positive feedback and encourages respectful debate.
> 
> I would appreciate your active response on this issue.
> 
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> 
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Re: [Hpr] Should we reject a show with copyrighted fair use clips in it ?

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I would need to know what the material was and the context to determine if it 
falls under “fair use”. IANAL so even with that info it would be my best guess 
just from experience. 

Easy solution is the show creator voluntarily clean it up if possible. Since I 
don’t know the context that may not be realistic without ruining the intent of 
the show. I am hoping there is a solution that makes that decision easy. 

If not then, as much as its sucks, we have to not get ourselves (mostly Ken and 
I and mostly me more than Ken) in trouble legally or financially. I saw some 
fair about about low chance to get caught and the thoughts that the punishment 
would be slap on the wrist and just take it down. But if they get aggressive 
and push to court then I just cannot afford it EVEN IF WE ARE RIGHT ABOUT FAIR 
USE AND WIN the court costs alone would break me  

Sorry. Not worth the risk. I appreciate the contribution and do not want to 
discourage the submissions.  But it is too dangerous. 

And for the record... no one else can voluntarily accept responsibility. It 
falls back to me as site owner no matter what. 

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> On May 23, 2019, at 4:50 AM, Ken Fallon  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Under safe harbor provisions, we as volunteers are usually insulated
> from any copyright issues that may arise in the shows. "We do not vet,
> edit, moderate or in any way censor any of the shows on the network, we
> trust you to do that."
> 
> This we got by accident because "This is a long standing tradition
> arising from the fact that HPR is a community of peers who believe that
> any host has as much right to submit shows as any other."
> http://hackerpublicradio.org/stuff_you_need_to_know.php#not_moderated
> 
> In the show notes associated with hpr2829 on 2019-06-06, the host
> included the following text "For all included materials: If anyone feels
> they have right to any material in this show please let me know and I
> will comply."
> 
> This violates the HPR upload policy
> http://hackerpublicradio.org/stuff_you_need_to_know.php#permission
> 
> "Never include content, for example music, in your show that you do not
> have permission to redistribute. Try to avoid using any content in your
> show that can not be redistributed under a Creative Commons
> Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported license. If you are redistributing
> under another Creative Commons License or by arranged permission please
> make note of the restrictions when you upload your show. We can then
> signal that, so that others who redistribute HPR content can filter your
> show out."
> 
> As it was clear that they were not in compliance, I contacted the host.
> The host has been very helpful and has already removed some of the
> content but commented "There are still 2 audio clips included. I claim I
> can use them on the basis off fair use principles."
> 
> While the host may be correct, if they are not, then it is me and not
> the host that will be held responsible for posting it. I do not want
> that responsibility.
> 
> Under the current HPR rules I am allowed to reject this submission.
> 
> Before I do, I would appreciate as much feedback as possible on this
> topic so that we can gauge the opinions of the HPR Community as a whole.
> 
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> 
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Re: [Hpr] HPR Policy Change - HTML default in RSS Feed

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I think this is long overdue. 

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> On May 7, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Ken Fallon  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> This is a proposal to change the default RSS feed from Plain Text to
> support HTML. This decision needs to be taken by you the community and
> will also be discussed on the community news.
> 
> Current situation:
> The RSS feeds do not have html in the show notes.
> 
> Reasoning:
> It has become commonplace to include html in show notes so that podcast
> clients can display images, and click on links. It would mean that we
> would no longer need to display the entire url as the link, making it
> more user friendly.
> 
> Risks:
> podcast clients may not support html and fail to download the show.
> 
> Testing:
> http://hackerpublicradio.org/rss.php?html=1=ogg
> 
> As always silence = approval.
> 
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> 
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