[Hugin-devs] [Bug 679917] Re: Backup copy of project.
** Information type changed from Public Security to Public -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Hugin Developers, which is subscribed to Hugin. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/679917 Title: Backup copy of project. Status in Hugin: Confirmed Bug description: Hugin just crashed on me. Pre 0.7.0 this happened so often that I knew I had to save often, or risk losing my work. So far this is the first since I went to 0.7.0. Now 0.8.0 crashed on me However I'm most upset that a pto file got saved to run "nona", but this gets (I think) cleaned up after running nona. So now I'm left with a project file with hours of work missing. PLEASE write a backup pto file where I can find it, or mention "this project had unsaved changes when hugin crashed, load the backup file?" when I start it. (then I don't need to know where the backup is stored...). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hugin/+bug/679917/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~hugin-devs Post to : hugin-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~hugin-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Hugin-devs] [Bug 679917] Re: Backup copy of project.
** Information type changed from Public to Public Security -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Hugin Developers, which is subscribed to Hugin. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/679917 Title: Backup copy of project. Status in Hugin: Confirmed Bug description: Hugin just crashed on me. Pre 0.7.0 this happened so often that I knew I had to save often, or risk losing my work. So far this is the first since I went to 0.7.0. Now 0.8.0 crashed on me However I'm most upset that a pto file got saved to run "nona", but this gets (I think) cleaned up after running nona. So now I'm left with a project file with hours of work missing. PLEASE write a backup pto file where I can find it, or mention "this project had unsaved changes when hugin crashed, load the backup file?" when I start it. (then I don't need to know where the backup is stored...). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hugin/+bug/679917/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~hugin-devs Post to : hugin-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~hugin-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Hugin-devs] [Bug 679917] Re: Backup copy of project.
I set importance to 'High' because I would like to use 'Critical' only for things that we'd like to see in the next release (the next tarball of the current release cycle, not the next release cycle) ** Changed in: hugin Importance: Critical = High -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Hugin Developers, which is subscribed to Hugin. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/679917 Title: Backup copy of project. Status in Hugin - Panorama Tools GUI: Confirmed Bug description: Hugin just crashed on me. Pre 0.7.0 this happened so often that I knew I had to save often, or risk losing my work. So far this is the first since I went to 0.7.0. Now 0.8.0 crashed on me However I'm most pissed that a pto file got saved to run nona, but this gets (I think) cleaned up after running nona. So now I'm left with a project file with hours of work missing. PLEASE write a backup pto file where I can find it, or mention this project had unsaved changes when hugin crashed, load the backup file? when I start it. (then I don't need to know where the backup is stored...). ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~hugin-devs Post to : hugin-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~hugin-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Hugin-devs] [Bug 679917] Re: Backup copy of project.
Thomas, you have to learn to distinguish between a work-in-progress patch and a final suggested fix patch. Yes, I'm sure that on Unix you can keep an open filedescriptor to a file and rename it. The common way to prevent temporary files from cluttering the filesystem is to open the temporary file, and then delete it. Now when the program exits (clean or otherwise) it is the OS'es responsibility to clean up the file now that there are no longer any references to it. Yes, now that we're talking autosaves, we can think about backups too. Maybe we can solve two issues in one go. Yes, my patch doesn't yet implement any of my suggested backup ideas. The patch proves that making hugin do an autosave can be done in less than 20 lines-of-code. Of course before the patch goes final, the interval will be increased. But we're not that far yet. So, it provides good debugging opportunities if it triggers the autosave every 10 seconds, as opposed to every 10 minutes. If we've decided that history/backup might be useful, and if the autosave fits in with the naming convention, then maybe we can unify these. So whereas $HOME/.hugin-autosave is a Unix-only filename for the auto-save, if we'd use the name of the project we'd immediately have a valid name on whatever OS this runs on. untitled-autosave.pto should work on most OSes too. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Hugin Developers, which is subscribed to Hugin. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/679917 Title: Backup copy of project. Status in Hugin - Panorama Tools GUI: Confirmed Bug description: Hugin just crashed on me. Pre 0.7.0 this happened so often that I knew I had to save often, or risk losing my work. So far this is the first since I went to 0.7.0. Now 0.8.0 crashed on me However I'm most pissed that a pto file got saved to run nona, but this gets (I think) cleaned up after running nona. So now I'm left with a project file with hours of work missing. PLEASE write a backup pto file where I can find it, or mention this project had unsaved changes when hugin crashed, load the backup file? when I start it. (then I don't need to know where the backup is stored...). ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~hugin-devs Post to : hugin-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~hugin-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Hugin-devs] [Bug 679917] Re: Backup copy of project.
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 12:47:47AM -, Yuv wrote: Share the patch please. Can't promise (lot of things on my todo list), but if it still does not have a preference setting I can contribute that. Place = storage space in the file system? how about taking the time when the Hugin instance is started, make it into an epoch, and save it to something like /etc/${epoch}.pto ? Oh.. .I think I checked it in to my local mercurial storage, but how do I get the patch out? Last time hg diff gave me exactly what I wanted, but now that I've checked things in it seems to have become more difficult. Roger. -- ** r.e.wo...@bitwizard.nl ** http://www.BitWizard.nl/ ** +31-15-2600998 ** **Delftechpark 26 2628 XH Delft, The Netherlands. KVK: 27239233** *-- BitWizard writes Linux device drivers for any device you may have! --* Q: It doesn't work. A: Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Is it unemployed? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. - Adapted from lxrbot FAQ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Hugin Developers, which is subscribed to Hugin. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/679917 Title: Backup copy of project. Status in Hugin - Panorama Tools GUI: Confirmed Bug description: Hugin just crashed on me. Pre 0.7.0 this happened so often that I knew I had to save often, or risk losing my work. So far this is the first since I went to 0.7.0. Now 0.8.0 crashed on me However I'm most pissed that a pto file got saved to run nona, but this gets (I think) cleaned up after running nona. So now I'm left with a project file with hours of work missing. PLEASE write a backup pto file where I can find it, or mention this project had unsaved changes when hugin crashed, load the backup file? when I start it. (then I don't need to know where the backup is stored...). ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~hugin-devs Post to : hugin-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~hugin-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Hugin-devs] [Bug 679917] Re: Backup copy of project.
The filename are all very unixy and does not look good on windows. Furthermore, if you hold a handle to a file you can not rename the same file in a second instance. So this will break. Also this will show unpredictable behaviour if you open more than 10 instances (unlikely, but possible). Also it would be nice to have a clean up routine and to have the possiblity to deactivate this function. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Hugin Developers, which is subscribed to Hugin. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/679917 Title: Backup copy of project. Status in Hugin - Panorama Tools GUI: Confirmed Bug description: Hugin just crashed on me. Pre 0.7.0 this happened so often that I knew I had to save often, or risk losing my work. So far this is the first since I went to 0.7.0. Now 0.8.0 crashed on me However I'm most pissed that a pto file got saved to run nona, but this gets (I think) cleaned up after running nona. So now I'm left with a project file with hours of work missing. PLEASE write a backup pto file where I can find it, or mention this project had unsaved changes when hugin crashed, load the backup file? when I start it. (then I don't need to know where the backup is stored...). ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~hugin-devs Post to : hugin-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~hugin-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Hugin-devs] [Bug 679917] Re: Backup copy of project.
I have a better patch that fixes most of the problems. I can't decide on a proper autosave place such that running multiple hugin instances works. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Hugin Developers, which is subscribed to Hugin. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/679917 Title: Backup copy of project. Status in Hugin - Panorama Tools GUI: Confirmed Bug description: Hugin just crashed on me. Pre 0.7.0 this happened so often that I knew I had to save often, or risk losing my work. So far this is the first since I went to 0.7.0. Now 0.8.0 crashed on me However I'm most pissed that a pto file got saved to run nona, but this gets (I think) cleaned up after running nona. So now I'm left with a project file with hours of work missing. PLEASE write a backup pto file where I can find it, or mention this project had unsaved changes when hugin crashed, load the backup file? when I start it. (then I don't need to know where the backup is stored...). ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~hugin-devs Post to : hugin-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~hugin-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Hugin-devs] [Bug 679917] Re: Backup copy of project.
On November 30, 2010 01:58:32 am rew wrote: If we drop all bug reports that are old this whole migration of bugs could've been prevented. Would you volunteer to go through 400 tickets (bugs/features/patches) on the old/slow SF infrastructure? Although I agree that formally wishlist is what you'd call a new feature like autosave, it should be considered an essential fix to the system as long as sudden crashes still linger around. I agree that it is an effective workaround. Not a fix. I prefer to see the sudden crashes fixed and Hugin becoming more robust. A (hypothetical) bugfix ... Not fix. Work around. I mentioned nona and the writing of the PTO file because it probably didn't crash until after I had once made a test-stitch. But in general I've had it crash before I've made my test-stitch as well. The misunderstanding was all on our side. I apologize if it made you feel that we do not consider your reports important enough. To be totally explicit: I think the autosave feature request is a great idea and should be on top of the list. But which list? At SF we had three lists (bugs/patches/features). Bugs became irrelevant because submerged by new reports. Features became irrelevant because ignored. Patches was more or less under control, mainly because there were not that many submissions. Now we have a big combined list (around 400 tickets open at time of migration), and an opportunity to do things well, i.e. - first sort out what is feature request from what is bug report (there were a lot of feature requests in the bug tracker) - then go through them and prioritize them into a single todo list. using the importance: - feature requests - wishlisth - bug reports - low/medium/high then they can be mentally merged to a single todo-list again, trying to balance between making the current software work as advertised (bug fixes) and adding new features. once we have sorted this mess, we can go more methodical about the todo-list by using the Assigned-To and Milestone fileds. Thank you for bearing with us and helping us sort the backlog Yuv -- Backup copy of project. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/679917 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Hugin Developers, which is subscribed to Hugin. Status in Hugin - Panorama Tools GUI: Confirmed Bug description: Hugin just crashed on me. Pre 0.7.0 this happened so often that I knew I had to save often, or risk losing my work. So far this is the first since I went to 0.7.0. Now 0.8.0 crashed on me However I'm most pissed that a pto file got saved to run nona, but this gets (I think) cleaned up after running nona. So now I'm left with a project file with hours of work missing. PLEASE write a backup pto file where I can find it, or mention this project had unsaved changes when hugin crashed, load the backup file? when I start it. (then I don't need to know where the backup is stored...). ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~hugin-devs Post to : hugin-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~hugin-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Hugin-devs] [Bug 679917] Re: Backup copy of project.
Oh, I just noticed the patch. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I put all reports that have patches on Critical status, simply because they are low hanging fruits worth harvesting. Will check into this and hopefully integrate it into 2010.4beta2 ** Changed in: hugin Importance: High = Critical -- Backup copy of project. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/679917 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Hugin Developers, which is subscribed to Hugin. Status in Hugin - Panorama Tools GUI: Confirmed Bug description: Hugin just crashed on me. Pre 0.7.0 this happened so often that I knew I had to save often, or risk losing my work. So far this is the first since I went to 0.7.0. Now 0.8.0 crashed on me However I'm most pissed that a pto file got saved to run nona, but this gets (I think) cleaned up after running nona. So now I'm left with a project file with hours of work missing. PLEASE write a backup pto file where I can find it, or mention this project had unsaved changes when hugin crashed, load the backup file? when I start it. (then I don't need to know where the backup is stored...). ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~hugin-devs Post to : hugin-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~hugin-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Hugin-devs] [Bug 679917] Re: Backup copy of project.
Problem: adding a preference means adding a string. Not a nice thing to do to translators at this point in the release cycle. I'll ask the question on Hugin-PTX -- Backup copy of project. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/679917 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Hugin Developers, which is subscribed to Hugin. Status in Hugin - Panorama Tools GUI: Confirmed Bug description: Hugin just crashed on me. Pre 0.7.0 this happened so often that I knew I had to save often, or risk losing my work. So far this is the first since I went to 0.7.0. Now 0.8.0 crashed on me However I'm most pissed that a pto file got saved to run nona, but this gets (I think) cleaned up after running nona. So now I'm left with a project file with hours of work missing. PLEASE write a backup pto file where I can find it, or mention this project had unsaved changes when hugin crashed, load the backup file? when I start it. (then I don't need to know where the backup is stored...). ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~hugin-devs Post to : hugin-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~hugin-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Hugin-devs] [Bug 679917] Re: Backup copy of project.
YES. Hugin-recent crashed on me again yesterday. ** Changed in: hugin Status: Incomplete = Confirmed -- Backup copy of project. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/679917 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Hugin Developers, which is subscribed to Hugin. Status in Hugin - Panorama Tools GUI: Confirmed Bug description: Hugin just crashed on me. Pre 0.7.0 this happened so often that I knew I had to save often, or risk losing my work. So far this is the first since I went to 0.7.0. Now 0.8.0 crashed on me However I'm most pissed that a pto file got saved to run nona, but this gets (I think) cleaned up after running nona. So now I'm left with a project file with hours of work missing. PLEASE write a backup pto file where I can find it, or mention this project had unsaved changes when hugin crashed, load the backup file? when I start it. (then I don't need to know where the backup is stored...). ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~hugin-devs Post to : hugin-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~hugin-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Hugin-devs] [Bug 679917] Re: Backup copy of project.
When stitching and a crash happens only hugin_stitch_project (or some of the external tools) can crashs. Hugin itself is an own process, so there is no data loss, because the project file is still open. The second part would be an auto save option. This would be a now option, therefore set importance to wishlist. ** Changed in: hugin Importance: High = Wishlist -- Backup copy of project. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/679917 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Hugin Developers, which is subscribed to Hugin. Status in Hugin - Panorama Tools GUI: Confirmed Bug description: Hugin just crashed on me. Pre 0.7.0 this happened so often that I knew I had to save often, or risk losing my work. So far this is the first since I went to 0.7.0. Now 0.8.0 crashed on me However I'm most pissed that a pto file got saved to run nona, but this gets (I think) cleaned up after running nona. So now I'm left with a project file with hours of work missing. PLEASE write a backup pto file where I can find it, or mention this project had unsaved changes when hugin crashed, load the backup file? when I start it. (then I don't need to know where the backup is stored...). ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~hugin-devs Post to : hugin-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~hugin-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp