Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] idea for Sugar slogan and name
I guess Bryan thinks of it as a play on Mathland (in Papert's sense, not the curriculum of the same name). The name of squeakland.org was inspired by the same idea: What would happen if children who can’t do math grew up in Mathland, a place that is to math what France is to French? --S.P. Also see http://www.kusasa.org/background/mathland/mathland.html - Bert - On 12.01.2009, at 06:36, Wade Brainerd wrote: I personally prefer 'Sugar' over 'Sugarland'. The latter seems a bit like another world, where I think people want to be educated to succeed in the real one. SugarLand might appeal more to children. But then we would also want to make the UI less focused and more like a video game, which I don't necessarily agree with. Best, Wade On 1/11/09, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: my apologies ;) What do you guys think? Playground : Where kids learn and play or SugarLand: where kids learn and play or Sugar: Where kids learn and play w/ transpositions of learn and play On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 19:05 +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Btw, we are having this discussion in the development list, thus only including geeks :p [adding iaep and marketing to cc] On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 17:54, imm ian.m.macart...@talktalk.net wrote: On 11 Jan 2009, at 15:43, Bryan Berry wrote: Sugar: A Place to Play and Learn I have trouble saying this 3x quickly due to the repetition of the Pla sound. It may sound trivial but it does affect our ability to repeat it often and consistently Yes - me too, that's why I thought the Learn and Play form flowed better... I liked the sounds of that first form, but the concept of the second form. -- imm ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] idea for Sugar slogan and name
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 13:16, Erik Blankinship er...@mediamods.com wrote: Perhaps I am stating the obvious, but the suggestions are very suggestive of Candyland. http://bp1.blogger.com/_GBSubG7_qbw/Rj_u39QVD7I/AGQ/YAZ3WRMdYbU/s1600-h/Candyland-1949.JPG http://www.mipo37.com/CandyLand.jpg The molasses swamp reminded me that we should do some more performance work after the feature freeze. Regards, Tomeu On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: I guess Bryan thinks of it as a play on Mathland (in Papert's sense, not the curriculum of the same name). The name of squeakland.org was inspired by the same idea: What would happen if children who can't do math grew up in Mathland, a place that is to math what France is to French? --S.P. Also see http://www.kusasa.org/background/mathland/mathland.html - Bert - On 12.01.2009, at 06:36, Wade Brainerd wrote: I personally prefer 'Sugar' over 'Sugarland'. The latter seems a bit like another world, where I think people want to be educated to succeed in the real one. SugarLand might appeal more to children. But then we would also want to make the UI less focused and more like a video game, which I don't necessarily agree with. Best, Wade On 1/11/09, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: my apologies ;) What do you guys think? Playground : Where kids learn and play or SugarLand: where kids learn and play or Sugar: Where kids learn and play w/ transpositions of learn and play On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 19:05 +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Btw, we are having this discussion in the development list, thus only including geeks :p [adding iaep and marketing to cc] On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 17:54, imm ian.m.macart...@talktalk.net wrote: On 11 Jan 2009, at 15:43, Bryan Berry wrote: Sugar: A Place to Play and Learn I have trouble saying this 3x quickly due to the repetition of the Pla sound. It may sound trivial but it does affect our ability to repeat it often and consistently Yes - me too, that's why I thought the Learn and Play form flowed better... I liked the sounds of that first form, but the concept of the second form. -- imm ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Responsibility requires authority
FUDCon wrapped up yesterday. Like a good constructionist, I am Reflecting on what we learned. Responsibility requires authority - A key point that appeared over and over at FUDCon was the notion that responsibility requires authority. The most visible example of this is the release manager. The release manager is a tough job. He is the one who must look at the list of 100 new features that people want to include. On the feature freeze date he must say feature A is stable enough to go in while feature B must wait until next release. The tough part of the job is that the release manager must look at 100 features. An individual contributor, paid or unpaid, often has a favorite feature that they really want included. The individual contributor can then lobby full time to have their feature exempted from the freeze. If 10 people start spending all of their energy pushing for exemptaions, the release manager becomes swamped. Nothing gets done. The release slipps Often, we think of authority and responsibility as coming down from above. In community situations, responsibility come in the from of request from our peers. Will you help us out on this. Authority is granted by not second guessing or undermining the decisions that that person makes. There will still be discussion and disagreement. But, at he end of the day, we must respect the fact that the decision maker initially raised his hand to to be responsible for a task. As such, we must respect them with the authority necessary to complete their jobs. I you don't like how someone is doing something, please feel free to raise you hand and be responsibility for that task next release. thanks david ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Marketing tag line
Sugar - emacs for a new generation ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Marketing tag line
David, oh please, get it right... On 12 Jan 2009, at 23:53, David Farning wrote: Sugar - emacs for a new generation Sugar - vi for a new generation :-b --G ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
