Re: [IAEP] [OLPC India] [Olpc-open] Mitra's talk on hole in the wall
It was not clear if it related to this list.. Was your question about OLPC or something else? Sincerely, S Adhikari Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 05:20:10 + From: stella...@googlemail.com To: char...@charbax.com; snat...@yahoo.com CC: olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org; su...@lists.laptop.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; in...@lists.laptop.org Subject: Re: [OLPC India] [Olpc-open] Mitra's talk on hole in the wall Dear Subir, I have forwarded recent separate emails on this subject. I was trying to centralise and create one list but somehow the system rejects it. I am now back in the UK after visiting Mumbai and Kolkata trying to research and understand the best way forward. We need to understand the specifications i.e. what language how do they set up broadband can memory be extended what minimum order quantities if any etc.etc. Kind regards. Stella H Howell UK 2009/1/14 Charbax char...@charbax.com Hi, just wanted to say that i was there in Geneva at the Lift conference at Sugata Mitra's talk. I was filming video interviews for http://techvideoblog.com/category/lift/ I remember I approached Sugata Mitra after his talk to ask him what he thought about the OLPC project. I am not sure I understood what he had to say about OLPC or perhaps I just don't remember it clearly. But I think he wasn't totally enthusiastic about OLPC which I thought was weird. But I guess that he is researching some other angle on the problem. Anyways, I hoe that with Obama that OLPC can hurry up and fix all the worlds problems. Cause the Children are growing older without a much better education system that they deserve. And I am thinking the problem is not only in poor countries, although their problem obvisously is the biggest, I think that all Children in all countries are waiting for the school system to be made better. And that I think is using computers and the Internet in a clever way. On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: Just saw Sugata Mitra's talk at Lift (http://liftconference.com/) on the hole-in-the-wall experiment and the data they collected. Most impressive was the concept of self-organized learning that happened in these places. http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/sugata_mitra_shows_how_kids_teach_themselves.html It goes against all the talk about teacher training, etc. Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Information Systems San Francisco State University San Francisco CA 94132 USA http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://opensource.sfsu.edu/ ___ Olpc-open mailing list olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open -- Charbax, Nicolas Charbonnier ___ India mailing list in...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Running sugar at almost-native speeds in Windows
Wade Brainerd wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Dave Bauer dave.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, you can create a .vmdk from .img using the QEMU tools. It's just that .vmdk is much more widely supported that .img so it would save a conversion step for most VM users. I agree that we should be providing 1 click solutions *in addition* to providing .vmdk files for people who already use VMs regularly. Right, VMDK is not easily reusable though, for Parallels you have to perform a few steps to reuse it. One click solution is the goal of course. QEMU really isn't that solution unless you can use acceleration. The speed is pretty much unusable otherwise, and that is really only useful for testing if you are very patient. Anyone who needs a 1-click installer also would expect reasonable performance. I haven't found an easy way to get QEMU working with acceleration on OS X. I think we are working towards a solution, just not as quickly as we would like. Dave I brought up VMware Virtual Appliances as an option at one point, has anyone tried creating one of those? I'm not sure how close to one click they are though. VirtualBox appears to have the beginnings of some appliance support as well. Best, Wade Okay folks, sorry for the late reply, as I just came across this thread (I was a bit behind my e-mail). So let me explain some things: There are the appliance-tools (www.thincrust.net) available which do in fact exactly the thing which has been discussed here. You can even specify a output file type, so that you'd get vmdk, raw or other files. Sounds cool, heh? :) Well, what I've done now is that I've taken our kickstart files and made one for the appliance creation up out of them. It's also in the soas GIT repo. Then I worked on getting appliance-tools to work on our build systems (thanks erikos here!) and it now creates flawlessly such a .vmdk file. I already gave it a try and it boots, but doesn't come up with the Sugar desktop, but fails when trying to log in. A good idea would be probably to have these images built together with the other snapshots. Cheers, --Sebastian ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Running sugar at almost-native speeds in Windows
On Mar 15, 2009, at 6:21 AM, Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.com wrote: Wade Brainerd wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Dave Bauer dave.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, you can create a .vmdk from .img using the QEMU tools. It's just that .vmdk is much more widely supported that .img so it would save a conversion step for most VM users. I agree that we should be providing 1 click solutions *in addition* to providing .vmdk files for people who already use VMs regularly. Right, VMDK is not easily reusable though, for Parallels you have to perform a few steps to reuse it. One click solution is the goal of course. QEMU really isn't that solution unless you can use acceleration. The speed is pretty much unusable otherwise, and that is really only useful for testing if you are very patient. Anyone who needs a 1-click installer also would expect reasonable performance. I haven't found an easy way to get QEMU working with acceleration on OS X. I think we are working towards a solution, just not as quickly as we would like. Dave I brought up VMware Virtual Appliances as an option at one point, has anyone tried creating one of those? I'm not sure how close to one click they are though. VirtualBox appears to have the beginnings of some appliance support as well. Best, Wade Okay folks, sorry for the late reply, as I just came across this thread (I was a bit behind my e-mail). So let me explain some things: There are the appliance-tools (www.thincrust.net) available which do in fact exactly the thing which has been discussed here. You can even specify a output file type, so that you'd get vmdk, raw or other files. Sounds cool, heh? :) Well, what I've done now is that I've taken our kickstart files and made one for the appliance creation up out of them. It's also in the soas GIT repo. Then I worked on getting appliance-tools to work on our build systems (thanks erikos here!) and it now creates flawlessly such a .vmdk file. I already gave it a try and it boots, but doesn't come up with the Sugar desktop, but fails when trying to log in. A good idea would be probably to have these images built together with the other snapshots. Cheers, --Sebastian Awesome, nice work Sebastian! I'll check these out on Monday if you send me a link. Best, Wade ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Running sugar at almost-native speeds in Windows
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 5:21 AM, Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.com wrote: Wade Brainerd wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Dave Bauer dave.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, you can create a .vmdk from .img using the QEMU tools. It's just that .vmdk is much more widely supported that .img so it would save a conversion step for most VM users. I agree that we should be providing 1 click solutions *in addition* to providing .vmdk files for people who already use VMs regularly. Right, VMDK is not easily reusable though, for Parallels you have to perform a few steps to reuse it. One click solution is the goal of course. QEMU really isn't that solution unless you can use acceleration. The speed is pretty much unusable otherwise, and that is really only useful for testing if you are very patient. Anyone who needs a 1-click installer also would expect reasonable performance. I haven't found an easy way to get QEMU working with acceleration on OS X. I think we are working towards a solution, just not as quickly as we would like. Dave I brought up VMware Virtual Appliances as an option at one point, has anyone tried creating one of those? I'm not sure how close to one click they are though. VirtualBox appears to have the beginnings of some appliance support as well. Best, Wade Okay folks, sorry for the late reply, as I just came across this thread (I was a bit behind my e-mail). So let me explain some things: There are the appliance-tools (www.thincrust.net) available which do in fact exactly the thing which has been discussed here. You can even specify a output file type, so that you'd get vmdk, raw or other files. Sounds cool, heh? :) Well, what I've done now is that I've taken our kickstart files and made one for the appliance creation up out of them. It's also in the soas GIT repo. Then I worked on getting appliance-tools to work on our build systems (thanks erikos here!) and it now creates flawlessly such a .vmdk file. I already gave it a try and it boots, but doesn't come up with the Sugar desktop, but fails when trying to log in. A good idea would be probably to have these images built together with the other snapshots. Maybe, you could get Sasche to set something to create automatic daily builds on the Sugar Labs build farm:) david Cheers, --Sebastian ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Great Resources from Uruguay
Hi All, Paola Bruccoleri of Uruguay posted a link to a great resource page on the Project Ceibal website. It is full of lots of links to info on most of the activities and other educational resources. Most are in Spanish, but Google Translate could help. http://www.reducativa.com/wiki/index.php?title=Proyecto_OLPC_-_Plan_Ceibal It would be great if we could pick the best and translate them into English. These folks are doing things worth looking at! Caryl___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] 0.84 doc updates
Hi all - Thanks to those of you who did updates on the Sugar guide for 0.84. We're close but need a couple more items in order to complete the updates. Also, I can't currently export to HTML or PDF to update the Help Activity. I'm in touch with the FM tech team to get a resolution. I have a few additional questions, after poking around this week. 1. Can you update an XO-1 to the 0.84 build? I can't find a method for doing that. 2. I'm using SoaS to get my screenshots and then emailing them to myself using Gmail in the Browse Activity. How else could I copy files from the Journal (on SoaS) to another location? 3. In the 0.84 control panel aka My Settings, I don't see the Software Update button. How can we update the Help Activity contents or other Activities? The answer to this will help with updates to http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/8_4/Updating. 4. I have written info on using SoaS for Windows and started the Grannies Guide to Sugar here: http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/GranniesGuideSugar/WebHome. I would love for someone to write the SoaS chapters for Linux (Ed?). I will include that content in the Sugar Guide once the manual index arrangement works again. Thanks, Anne -- Anne Gentle email: annegen...@justwriteclick.com blog: www.justwriteclick.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] 0.84 doc updates
Should we be working on the documents at http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/8_4/ ? david more inline On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Anne Gentle annegen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all - Thanks to those of you who did updates on the Sugar guide for 0.84. We're close but need a couple more items in order to complete the updates. Also, I can't currently export to HTML or PDF to update the Help Activity. I'm in touch with the FM tech team to get a resolution. I have a few additional questions, after poking around this week. 1. Can you update an XO-1 to the 0.84 build? I can't find a method for doing that. Sadly, it not easy at this time. OLPC no longer distributes and maintains a OS for the XO. The upgrade path involves updating the OX to a Fedora base OS. 2. I'm using SoaS to get my screenshots and then emailing them to myself using Gmail in the Browse Activity. How else could I copy files from the Journal (on SoaS) to another location? 3. In the 0.84 control panel aka My Settings, I don't see the Software Update button. How can we update the Help Activity contents or other Activities? The answer to this will help with updates to http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/8_4/Updating. Updating will happen using the distribution's native packaging tools. Yum for Fedora and apt-get for Debian and Ubuntu. 4. I have written info on using SoaS for Windows and started the Grannies Guide to Sugar here: http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/GranniesGuideSugar/WebHome. I would love for someone to write the SoaS chapters for Linux (Ed?). I will include that content in the Sugar Guide once the manual index arrangement works again. Thanks, Anne -- Anne Gentle email: annegen...@justwriteclick.com blog: www.justwriteclick.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] 0.84 doc updates
Hi, David! Thanks for the info. More below. On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 3:53 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.orgwrote: Should we be working on the documents at http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/8_4/ ? Yep, that's the place. I apologize that the chapters are listed in alphabetical order but until the technical issues are resolved they are listed alphabetically. Which actually is pretty easy for authoring, hee hee. But not so much for reading. :) -snip- 1. Can you update an XO-1 to the 0.84 build? I can't find a method for doing that. Sadly, it not easy at this time. OLPC no longer distributes and maintains a OS for the XO. The upgrade path involves updating the OX to a Fedora base OS. Is anyone willing to document this non-easy task as a section in the Updating chapter? Or if someone outlines the basics on the OLPC wiki, and points me to the steps, I can give it a go. 2. I'm using SoaS to get my screenshots and then emailing them to myself using Gmail in the Browse Activity. How else could I copy files from the Journal (on SoaS) to another location? 3. In the 0.84 control panel aka My Settings, I don't see the Software Update button. How can we update the Help Activity contents or other Activities? The answer to this will help with updates to http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/8_4/Updating. Updating will happen using the distribution's native packaging tools. Yum for Fedora and apt-get for Debian and Ubuntu. Ok, got it. Thanks for that clarification. :) Is anyone willing to document this task as a section in the Updating chapter? Thanks, all. Hope you're enjoying your weekend. Anne -- Anne Gentle email: annegen...@justwriteclick.com blog: www.justwriteclick.com -- Anne Gentle email: annegen...@justwriteclick.com blog: www.justwriteclick.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] 0.84 doc updates
I'll take a crack at updating the Updating Chapter... (and clarifying the message in the wiki). -walter On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Anne Gentle annegen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, David! Thanks for the info. More below. On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 3:53 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Should we be working on the documents at http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/8_4/ ? Yep, that's the place. I apologize that the chapters are listed in alphabetical order but until the technical issues are resolved they are listed alphabetically. Which actually is pretty easy for authoring, hee hee. But not so much for reading. :) -snip- 1. Can you update an XO-1 to the 0.84 build? I can't find a method for doing that. Sadly, it not easy at this time. OLPC no longer distributes and maintains a OS for the XO. The upgrade path involves updating the OX to a Fedora base OS. Is anyone willing to document this non-easy task as a section in the Updating chapter? Or if someone outlines the basics on the OLPC wiki, and points me to the steps, I can give it a go. 2. I'm using SoaS to get my screenshots and then emailing them to myself using Gmail in the Browse Activity. How else could I copy files from the Journal (on SoaS) to another location? 3. In the 0.84 control panel aka My Settings, I don't see the Software Update button. How can we update the Help Activity contents or other Activities? The answer to this will help with updates to http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/8_4/Updating. Updating will happen using the distribution's native packaging tools. Yum for Fedora and apt-get for Debian and Ubuntu. Ok, got it. Thanks for that clarification. :) Is anyone willing to document this task as a section in the Updating chapter? Thanks, all. Hope you're enjoying your weekend. Anne -- Anne Gentle email: annegen...@justwriteclick.com blog: www.justwriteclick.com -- Anne Gentle email: annegen...@justwriteclick.com blog: www.justwriteclick.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Wiki Sugar_Labs GettingInvolved links seem broken
Sure, but in this instance we're talking about anchor links which are meant to jump to specific sections of the GettingInvolved page on the wiki. These should definitely be fixed, and really needn't be absolute since they're just named anchors of the current page. - Eben On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Ivan has been helping us integrate the navigation between the static intro and the wiki, as the media launch begins tomorrow morning and it is vital first-time visitors can find their way out of the wiki. On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Eben Eliason eben.elia...@gmail.com wrote: They're not working for me either. The links need to be updated to point to the wiki subdomain, eg. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/GettingInvolved#Translator; right now they just point to sugarlabs.org (Not sure why the links need to be absolute anyway...) - Eben On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Gary C Martin wrote: Just a quick heads up, I'm afraid don't have time to look at this right now. The icon links on: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/GettingInvolved ... all seem broken, clicking on an icon does not take you to the anchor. It was working fine, not sure when it broke. The wiki did get some work done on it today, so not sure if it's related to that recent change, or just broken by subsequent wiki edits. FWIW, the image links were created with a fairly hairy template trick, but that was about cleanest possible solution given the version of media wiki and plug-ins we had back then. Regards, --Gary It works for me here. Hmmm. Regards, Simon ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] wiki - openid login error
Hi, error:Invalid AuthRequest: 769: Realm verification failed for: http://sugarlabs.org/ I get this error when trying to login using openid. The regular login does work fine. Thanks, Simon ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] wiki - openid login error
Simon - keep in mind the wiki is now wiki.sugarlabs.org to aid navigation, does that work? Sean On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi, error:Invalid AuthRequest: 769: Realm verification failed for: http://sugarlabs.org/ I get this error when trying to login using openid. The regular login does work fine. Thanks, Simon ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] wiki - openid login error
Sean DALY wrote: Simon - keep in mind the wiki is now wiki.sugarlabs.org to aid navigation, does that work? Sean Nope, same error. Simon ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Wiki Sugar_Labs GettingInvolved links seem broken
Easy fix for now. As you suspected the problem is caused by using the full url in the link. I can just stick a 'wiki.' in front of the url. Later we can go back on make the links relative. david On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Eben Eliason eben.elia...@gmail.com wrote: Sure, but in this instance we're talking about anchor links which are meant to jump to specific sections of the GettingInvolved page on the wiki. These should definitely be fixed, and really needn't be absolute since they're just named anchors of the current page. - Eben On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Ivan has been helping us integrate the navigation between the static intro and the wiki, as the media launch begins tomorrow morning and it is vital first-time visitors can find their way out of the wiki. On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Eben Eliason eben.elia...@gmail.com wrote: They're not working for me either. The links need to be updated to point to the wiki subdomain, eg. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/GettingInvolved#Translator; right now they just point to sugarlabs.org (Not sure why the links need to be absolute anyway...) - Eben On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Gary C Martin wrote: Just a quick heads up, I'm afraid don't have time to look at this right now. The icon links on: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/GettingInvolved ... all seem broken, clicking on an icon does not take you to the anchor. It was working fine, not sure when it broke. The wiki did get some work done on it today, so not sure if it's related to that recent change, or just broken by subsequent wiki edits. FWIW, the image links were created with a fairly hairy template trick, but that was about cleanest possible solution given the version of media wiki and plug-ins we had back then. Regards, --Gary It works for me here. Hmmm. Regards, Simon ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] 0.84 doc updates
Anne, I just updated the Updating Sugar Chapter in the 0.84 version of the Sugar FLOSS Manual. Please proof it when you get a chance. regards. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Wiki Sugar_Labs GettingInvolved links seem broken
Presto. - Eben On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 7:42 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Can someone test to make sure the fix worked. It works for me. david On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 6:08 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Easy fix for now. As you suspected the problem is caused by using the full url in the link. I can just stick a 'wiki.' in front of the url. Later we can go back on make the links relative. david On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Eben Eliason eben.elia...@gmail.com wrote: Sure, but in this instance we're talking about anchor links which are meant to jump to specific sections of the GettingInvolved page on the wiki. These should definitely be fixed, and really needn't be absolute since they're just named anchors of the current page. - Eben On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Ivan has been helping us integrate the navigation between the static intro and the wiki, as the media launch begins tomorrow morning and it is vital first-time visitors can find their way out of the wiki. On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Eben Eliason eben.elia...@gmail.com wrote: They're not working for me either. The links need to be updated to point to the wiki subdomain, eg. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/GettingInvolved#Translator; right now they just point to sugarlabs.org (Not sure why the links need to be absolute anyway...) - Eben On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Gary C Martin wrote: Just a quick heads up, I'm afraid don't have time to look at this right now. The icon links on: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/GettingInvolved ... all seem broken, clicking on an icon does not take you to the anchor. It was working fine, not sure when it broke. The wiki did get some work done on it today, so not sure if it's related to that recent change, or just broken by subsequent wiki edits. FWIW, the image links were created with a fairly hairy template trick, but that was about cleanest possible solution given the version of media wiki and plug-ins we had back then. Regards, --Gary It works for me here. Hmmm. Regards, Simon ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 12, Issue 51
Hi I guess you got this fixed. It is working fine now. http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep Guess I should change from digest mode. I get everything late! Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Wiki Sugar_Labs GettingInvolved links seem broken
On 15 Mar 2009, at 22:01, Eben Eliason wrote: Sure, but in this instance we're talking about anchor links which are meant to jump to specific sections of the GettingInvolved page on the wiki. These should definitely be fixed, and really needn't be absolute since they're just named anchors of the current page. Quick notes on why there are absolute links here :-) Wiki's are really, really, bad at doing the more useful UI navigation things with images. The wiki specifically wants, and goes out of it's way, to make all images to go to their copyright/upload pages. If you want to make useful navigation images, well, you're kind'a just screwed to be honest (and I wasted the best part of a day looking). There are some template tricks, some css hacks (both of which require absolute addressing of image and link, yuch); a cleaner trick for if you have the image map wiki extension (we don't have that), and some tentative suggestions in the mediawiki docs that a future version (mediawiki 1.14) has a better solution for making navigation images. Regards, --Gary - Eben On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Ivan has been helping us integrate the navigation between the static intro and the wiki, as the media launch begins tomorrow morning and it is vital first-time visitors can find their way out of the wiki. On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Eben Eliason eben.elia...@gmail.com wrote: They're not working for me either. The links need to be updated to point to the wiki subdomain, eg. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/GettingInvolved#Translator; right now they just point to sugarlabs.org (Not sure why the links need to be absolute anyway...) - Eben On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Gary C Martin wrote: Just a quick heads up, I'm afraid don't have time to look at this right now. The icon links on: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/GettingInvolved ... all seem broken, clicking on an icon does not take you to the anchor. It was working fine, not sure when it broke. The wiki did get some work done on it today, so not sure if it's related to that recent change, or just broken by subsequent wiki edits. FWIW, the image links were created with a fairly hairy template trick, but that was about cleanest possible solution given the version of media wiki and plug-ins we had back then. Regards, --Gary It works for me here. Hmmm. Regards, Simon ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] DC Photo Jam 2 - New batch of photos of SoaS running on netbooks
Wow! These are great!!! On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Mike Lee curious...@gmail.com wrote: Following up on a request from Walter and Christian a couple weeks ago, I finally got a photo session going this evening to capture some shots of SoaS running on an Asus EeePC 701 and Intel Classmate 2--complete with child! An added bonus was having Sasche Silbe come up on Chat on the Classmate 2 while I was shooting, so I was able to cache some colorful Chat lines. The images are high resolution, reproduction quality and set to CC. If you have any problems retrieving from Flickr, let me know. If you are not a contact of mine, I will have to Friend you to allow access to the high rez. http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiouslee/sets/72157615270454953/ Mike http://www.olpclearningclub.org http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Mikelee ___ Marketing mailing list market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] DC Photo Jam 2 - New batch of photos of SoaS running on netbooks
Mike, these are breathtaking! Walter, David - as they are CC, and already on Flickr, and the permissions posted by Mike are very clear, I do think we could go with these... what do you think? Sean P.S. Little Cianna even has Sugar Labs purple :-) On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:43 AM, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Wow! These are great!!! On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Mike Lee curious...@gmail.com wrote: Following up on a request from Walter and Christian a couple weeks ago, I finally got a photo session going this evening to capture some shots of SoaS running on an Asus EeePC 701 and Intel Classmate 2--complete with child! An added bonus was having Sasche Silbe come up on Chat on the Classmate 2 while I was shooting, so I was able to cache some colorful Chat lines. The images are high resolution, reproduction quality and set to CC. If you have any problems retrieving from Flickr, let me know. If you are not a contact of mine, I will have to Friend you to allow access to the high rez. http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiouslee/sets/72157615270454953/ Mike http://www.olpclearningclub.org http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Mikelee ___ Marketing mailing list market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ Marketing mailing list market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] DC Photo Jam 2 - New batch of photos of SoaS running on netbooks
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, these are breathtaking! Walter, David - as they are CC, and already on Flickr, and the permissions posted by Mike are very clear, I do think we could go with these... what do you think? Yes, we can use these images. The license that Mike chose is very clear. Let's ping him personally to let him know how we intend to use the images. Mike did a great job of combining the humanity of the project with the technical coolness. david Little Cianna even has Sugar Labs purple :-) On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:43 AM, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Wow! These are great!!! On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Mike Lee curious...@gmail.com wrote: Following up on a request from Walter and Christian a couple weeks ago, I finally got a photo session going this evening to capture some shots of SoaS running on an Asus EeePC 701 and Intel Classmate 2--complete with child! An added bonus was having Sasche Silbe come up on Chat on the Classmate 2 while I was shooting, so I was able to cache some colorful Chat lines. The images are high resolution, reproduction quality and set to CC. If you have any problems retrieving from Flickr, let me know. If you are not a contact of mine, I will have to Friend you to allow access to the high rez. http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiouslee/sets/72157615270454953/ Mike http://www.olpclearningclub.org http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Mikelee ___ Marketing mailing list market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ Marketing mailing list market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] DC Photo Jam 2 - New batch of photos of SoaS running on netbooks
Yes, astonishing. I say that as a marketer ;-) everything is there: happy learner, two different machines, USB stick in each On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:34 AM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, these are breathtaking! Walter, David - as they are CC, and already on Flickr, and the permissions posted by Mike are very clear, I do think we could go with these... what do you think? Yes, we can use these images. The license that Mike chose is very clear. Let's ping him personally to let him know how we intend to use the images. Mike did a great job of combining the humanity of the project with the technical coolness. david Little Cianna even has Sugar Labs purple :-) On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:43 AM, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Wow! These are great!!! On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Mike Lee curious...@gmail.com wrote: Following up on a request from Walter and Christian a couple weeks ago, I finally got a photo session going this evening to capture some shots of SoaS running on an Asus EeePC 701 and Intel Classmate 2--complete with child! An added bonus was having Sasche Silbe come up on Chat on the Classmate 2 while I was shooting, so I was able to cache some colorful Chat lines. The images are high resolution, reproduction quality and set to CC. If you have any problems retrieving from Flickr, let me know. If you are not a contact of mine, I will have to Friend you to allow access to the high rez. http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiouslee/sets/72157615270454953/ Mike http://www.olpclearningclub.org http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Mikelee ___ Marketing mailing list market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ Marketing mailing list market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Wiki Sugar_Labs GettingInvolved links seem broken
Gary is not the only one who has used this mechanism in the wiki. I used it extensively on the Download pages, for example. But there is no reason why we cannot have absolute paths that work in the new reorganization of the wiki. -walter On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:44 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 15 Mar 2009, at 22:01, Eben Eliason wrote: Sure, but in this instance we're talking about anchor links which are meant to jump to specific sections of the GettingInvolved page on the wiki. These should definitely be fixed, and really needn't be absolute since they're just named anchors of the current page. Quick notes on why there are absolute links here :-) Wiki's are really, really, bad at doing the more useful UI navigation things with images. The wiki specifically wants, and goes out of it's way, to make all images to go to their copyright/upload pages. If you want to make useful navigation images, well, you're kind'a just screwed to be honest (and I wasted the best part of a day looking). There are some template tricks, some css hacks (both of which require absolute addressing of image and link, yuch); a cleaner trick for if you have the image map wiki extension (we don't have that), and some tentative suggestions in the mediawiki docs that a future version (mediawiki 1.14) has a better solution for making navigation images. Sorry, I should have followed up on this. Gary had to use a class=plainlinks hack to get the images to work correctly. This was not something the mediawiki developers though we should be doing:) david Regards, --Gary - Eben On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Ivan has been helping us integrate the navigation between the static intro and the wiki, as the media launch begins tomorrow morning and it is vital first-time visitors can find their way out of the wiki. On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Eben Eliason eben.elia...@gmail.com wrote: They're not working for me either. The links need to be updated to point to the wiki subdomain, eg. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/GettingInvolved#Translator; right now they just point to sugarlabs.org (Not sure why the links need to be absolute anyway...) - Eben On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Gary C Martin wrote: Just a quick heads up, I'm afraid don't have time to look at this right now. The icon links on: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/GettingInvolved ... all seem broken, clicking on an icon does not take you to the anchor. It was working fine, not sure when it broke. The wiki did get some work done on it today, so not sure if it's related to that recent change, or just broken by subsequent wiki edits. FWIW, the image links were created with a fairly hairy template trick, but that was about cleanest possible solution given the version of media wiki and plug-ins we had back then. Regards, --Gary It works for me here. Hmmm. Regards, Simon ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] wiki - openid login error
Hi Simon, On Mar 15, 2009, at 11:31 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: I get this error when trying to login using openid. The regular login does work fine. Can you try now and let me know if it's fixed? (By the way, the best way to bring this stuff to the attention of the infrastructure team is to mail systems -at- lists.sugarlabs.org.) Cheers, -- Ivan Krstić krs...@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu | http://radian.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Welcome_to_the_Sugar_Labs_wiki
The wiki welcome just got a serious overhaul:) All of the introductory information was better presented on the static portion of the site. david ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
