[IAEP] .zip turned into .vdi What now?
Hello Again, Still trying to get SoaS going on my MacBook. I downloaded the soas-beta-1.zip. It took a long time (almost 2 hrs on dsl). I finally had time to look at it and try to use it and discovered that it no longer is a zip file. Somehow it turned into soas-beta-1.vdi Was that supposed to happen? What do I do with it now? It is asking what application I want to use to open it. The file is the same size as the zip file (357 MB) so it looks like the same file...just with a different extension. Is there a way to change it back? Caryl___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] More Questions
Hello Again, Still trying to get the SoaS going on the MacBook. This time I went back to trying the Stick and helper CD. I booted to the CD first, then inserted the usb stick. It went through the loading of Fedora all right (like before), then when I chose boot from the menu, it went into a terminal mode and gave me this message: -- WARNING: Cannot fine root file system! -- Create symlink /dev/root and then exit this shell to continue the boot sequence bash: no job control in this shell bash-4.o# I think if I knew a little Python I could solve this. It seems to want me to tell it to go boot the SoaS from the USB stick, but I don't know how to do it. Can someone tell me how and what to do to go on from here? How do I exit this shell? How do I Create symlink/dev/root? Caryl Countdown: 2 days 'till InfoTech. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] More about SoaS on a MacBook
[adding fedora-olpc to cc] On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 23:27, Carol Farlow Lerche c...@msbit.com wrote: Caryl, the G4 has a powerpc processor, which executes an entirely different binary instruction set from the Intel-based Mac and Intel PC architecture machines. Since SOAS in all its incarnations contains binary executables prepared for an Intel processor, this won't execute on your G4 Mac. (I'm leaving aside corner cases of having some kind of hardware emulator on the G4.) Maybe someone would be interested in doing a ppc version of soas? I see issues with activities containing binary modules, but maybe we should tackle this problem sooner than later, as any of these days someone could be interested in running Sugar on ARM or MIPS netbooks. And there's still lots of PPC macs in the education sector in the US. Regards, Tomeu On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Again, I downloaded http://www.sugarlabs.org/static/soas/soas-beta-1.zip. It took about 1 hr 45 min on a DSL connection. I haven't opened it yet...will get to that later today or this evening. But, I have a couple of questions. Is it possible to burn this file to a disk and boot from it? If so, would I unzip it first? If not, where should I put it? How do I access it? Is there any chance this version would run on a G4 MacPowerbook? I have one on hand I could try it with (it does run OSX). I would still like to be able to run from the SoaS USB with the helper CD. Someone else was having problems wiht that too. Is anyone working on a solution? Thanks, Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- I don't consider him a particularly reliable source of information. -- Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, at a House Foreign Affairs Committee meeting, on former Vice President Dick Cheney. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OT: Networking challenges in developing countries
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 04:22:14PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: They are in Cambridge. Why don't you call them? I'll ping them on behalf of Earth Treasury. Let me know if you find any more like them. Thanks for your answers, Walter and Edward! I've written an email to First Mile Solutions, waiting for their reply now. Their web page already contained some pointers and even some material (photos and descriptions of Sneakernet equipment) I can use. On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 04:18:16PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: The title of the original proposal (given to me) was Disruptive Tolerant Networking for the Amazonas (**). Sneakernet is the correct geek term. I see no point in creating yet more euphemisms, especially bafflegab euphemisms. It's the original title, not mine. :) I can't help you with the literature, but I can help imagine a solution, and a social movement to get it working, with historical examples. Would be interesting as well, though I also need a certain amount of scientific work (i.e. referencing and quoting other papers). Do you operate a proxy for intermittent internet access (like wwwoffle)? Resumable data transfers, such as wget? Torrenting? FidoNet? It's still in everyday use. I couldn't help snickering at some part of the topic presentation, since it was all presented as brand-new. I've run a Fido node myself for several years some time ago. :) References to old solutions will be part of my talk as well, of course. CU Sascha -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Fwd: On Classroom 2.0: Open Content in Education Thursday Future of Education Interview
This might be of interest to people. -- Forwarded message -- From: Classroom 2.0 m...@classroom20.com Date: Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:44 AM Subject: On Classroom 2.0: Open Content in Education Thursday Future of Education Interview To: carol...@solutiongrove.com carol...@solutiongrove.com A message to all members of Classroom 2.0 Join us for a discussion of the open content movement in education, where creative work is published in a format that explicitly allows copying and modifying of its information by anyone (Wikipedia). Date: Thursday, April 23rd, 2009 Time: 5pm Pacific / 8pm Eastern / 12am GMT Location: In Elluminate. hhttps:// sas.elluminate.com/m.jnlp?password=M.1F880C370BF8AC73389EA1E6F91CE5 If you haven't used Elluminate before, you can check the configuration of your computer by going to http://www.elluminate.com/support Guests: Karen Fasimpaur. An enthusiastic user of mobile technologies and an evangelist for Open Education, Karen Fasimpaur has over fifteen years experience in education and educational technology, working with schools and educational organizations to integrate technology. Ms. Fasimpaur is currently President of K12 Handhelds, which focuses on using mobile computing in education. She is also the founder of the K12 Open Ed web site and the Kids Open Dictionary project. K12 Open Ed (www.k12opened.com). K12 Handhelds (www.k12handhelds.com). Anne Schreiber. Anne has over 20 years experience as a multi-media publisher, product designer and educator. She is currently the Chief Academic Officer of Curriki – Global Education and Learning Community. Curriki, which was founded by Sun Microsystems is an organization dedicated to the creation of validated, open source K-12 curricula, which is completely free and available globally. Before joining Curriki, Anne was Vice President of Product at the Grow Network/McGraw-Hill, an assessment and instructional reporting company, providing customized instruction based on summative assessment data. Anne began her career as an elementary school teacher, developing staff and student enrichment programs. She is the author of more than a dozen books for young children. Join us! Steve Steve Hargadon http://www.stevehargadon.com st...@hargadon.com Visit Classroom 2.0 at: http://www.classroom20.com -- To control which emails you receive on Classroom 2.0, go to: http://www.classroom20.com/profiles/profile/emailSettings -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Fwd: On Classroom 2.0: Open Content in Education ThursdayFuture of Education Interview
Last time I tried to use Elluminate I wasn't allowed in after it is closed. Am I to assume that I can't be late or I won't be allowed in? -Kathy _ From: iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org [mailto:iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org] On Behalf Of Caroline Meeks Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 5:53 AM To: iaep Subject: [IAEP] Fwd: On Classroom 2.0: Open Content in Education ThursdayFuture of Education Interview This might be of interest to people. -- Forwarded message -- From: Classroom 2.0 m...@classroom20.com Date: Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:44 AM Subject: On Classroom 2.0: Open Content in Education Thursday Future of Education Interview To: carol...@solutiongrove.com carol...@solutiongrove.com A message to all members of Classroom 2.0 Join us for a discussion of the open content movement in education, where creative work is published in a format that explicitly allows copying and modifying of its information by anyone (Wikipedia). Date: Thursday, April 23rd, 2009 Time: 5pm Pacific / 8pm Eastern / 12am GMT Location: In Elluminate. hhttps://sas.elluminate.com/m.jnlp?password=M.1F880C370BF8AC73389EA1E6F91CE5 If you haven't used Elluminate before, you can check the configuration of your computer by going to http://www.elluminate.com/support Guests: Karen Fasimpaur. An enthusiastic user of mobile technologies and an evangelist for Open Education, Karen Fasimpaur has over fifteen years experience in education and educational technology, working with schools and educational organizations to integrate technology. Ms. Fasimpaur is currently President of K12 Handhelds, which focuses on using mobile computing in education. She is also the founder of the K12 Open Ed web site and the Kids Open Dictionary project. K12 Open Ed (www.k12opened.com). K12 Handhelds (www.k12handhelds.com). Anne Schreiber. Anne has over 20 years experience as a multi-media publisher, product designer and educator. She is currently the Chief Academic Officer of Curriki - Global Education and Learning Community. Curriki, which was founded by Sun Microsystems is an organization dedicated to the creation of validated, open source K-12 curricula, which is completely free and available globally. Before joining Curriki, Anne was Vice President of Product at the Grow Network/McGraw-Hill, an assessment and instructional reporting company, providing customized instruction based on summative assessment data. Anne began her career as an elementary school teacher, developing staff and student enrichment programs. She is the author of more than a dozen books for young children. Join us! Steve Steve Hargadon http://www.stevehargadon.com st...@hargadon.com Visit Classroom 2.0 at: http://www.classroom20.com -- To control which emails you receive on Classroom 2.0, go to: http://www.classroom20.com/profiles/profile/emailSettings -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Fwd: On Classroom 2.0: Open Content in Education ThursdayFuture of Education Interview
Last time I tried it it said it was all full at about 5 minutes before. But I asked Steve if it was and he said no, it was a technical problem. So I don't know what to expect but we can hope for everything to go smoothly this time. On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Kathy Pusztavari ka...@kathyandcalvin.comwrote: Last time I tried to use Elluminate I wasn't allowed in after it is closed. Am I to assume that I can't be late or I won't be allowed in? -Kathy -- *From:* iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org [mailto: iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org] *On Behalf Of *Caroline Meeks *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2009 5:53 AM *To:* iaep *Subject:* [IAEP] Fwd: On Classroom 2.0: Open Content in Education ThursdayFuture of Education Interview This might be of interest to people. -- Forwarded message -- From: Classroom 2.0 m...@classroom20.com Date: Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:44 AM Subject: On Classroom 2.0: Open Content in Education Thursday Future of Education Interview To: carol...@solutiongrove.com carol...@solutiongrove.com A message to all members of Classroom 2.0 Join us for a discussion of the open content movement in education, where creative work is published in a format that explicitly allows copying and modifying of its information by anyone (Wikipedia). Date: Thursday, April 23rd, 2009 Time: 5pm Pacific / 8pm Eastern / 12am GMT Location: In Elluminate. hhttps:// sas.elluminate.com/m.jnlp?password=M.1F880C370BF8AC73389EA1E6F91CE5 If you haven't used Elluminate before, you can check the configuration of your computer by going to http://www.elluminate.com/support Guests: Karen Fasimpaur. An enthusiastic user of mobile technologies and an evangelist for Open Education, Karen Fasimpaur has over fifteen years experience in education and educational technology, working with schools and educational organizations to integrate technology. Ms. Fasimpaur is currently President of K12 Handhelds, which focuses on using mobile computing in education. She is also the founder of the K12 Open Ed web site and the Kids Open Dictionary project. K12 Open Ed (www.k12opened.com). K12 Handhelds (www.k12handhelds.com). Anne Schreiber. Anne has over 20 years experience as a multi-media publisher, product designer and educator. She is currently the Chief Academic Officer of Curriki – Global Education and Learning Community. Curriki, which was founded by Sun Microsystems is an organization dedicated to the creation of validated, open source K-12 curricula, which is completely free and available globally. Before joining Curriki, Anne was Vice President of Product at the Grow Network/McGraw-Hill, an assessment and instructional reporting company, providing customized instruction based on summative assessment data. Anne began her career as an elementary school teacher, developing staff and student enrichment programs. She is the author of more than a dozen books for young children. Join us! Steve Steve Hargadon http://www.stevehargadon.com st...@hargadon.com Visit Classroom 2.0 at: http://www.classroom20.com -- To control which emails you receive on Classroom 2.0, go to: http://www.classroom20.com/profiles/profile/emailSettings -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Fwd: On Classroom 2.0: Open Content in Education ThursdayFuture of Education Interview
Okleydokley. It sounds really interesting so I hope I can get on. -Kathy _ From: Caroline Meeks [mailto:solutiongr...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 6:45 AM To: Kathy Pusztavari Cc: iaep Subject: Re: [IAEP] Fwd: On Classroom 2.0: Open Content in Education ThursdayFuture of Education Interview Last time I tried it it said it was all full at about 5 minutes before. But I asked Steve if it was and he said no, it was a technical problem. So I don't know what to expect but we can hope for everything to go smoothly this time. On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Kathy Pusztavari ka...@kathyandcalvin.com wrote: Last time I tried to use Elluminate I wasn't allowed in after it is closed. Am I to assume that I can't be late or I won't be allowed in? -Kathy _ From: iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org [mailto:iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org] On Behalf Of Caroline Meeks Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 5:53 AM To: iaep Subject: [IAEP] Fwd: On Classroom 2.0: Open Content in Education ThursdayFuture of Education Interview This might be of interest to people. -- Forwarded message -- From: Classroom 2.0 m...@classroom20.com Date: Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:44 AM Subject: On Classroom 2.0: Open Content in Education Thursday Future of Education Interview To: carol...@solutiongrove.com carol...@solutiongrove.com A message to all members of Classroom 2.0 Join us for a discussion of the open content movement in education, where creative work is published in a format that explicitly allows copying and modifying of its information by anyone (Wikipedia). Date: Thursday, April 23rd, 2009 Time: 5pm Pacific / 8pm Eastern / 12am GMT Location: In Elluminate. hhttps://sas.elluminate.com/m.jnlp?password=M.1F880C370BF8AC73389EA1E6F91CE5 If you haven't used Elluminate before, you can check the configuration of your computer by going to http://www.elluminate.com/support Guests: Karen Fasimpaur. An enthusiastic user of mobile technologies and an evangelist for Open Education, Karen Fasimpaur has over fifteen years experience in education and educational technology, working with schools and educational organizations to integrate technology. Ms. Fasimpaur is currently President of K12 Handhelds, which focuses on using mobile computing in education. She is also the founder of the K12 Open Ed web site and the Kids Open Dictionary project. K12 Open Ed (www.k12opened.com). K12 Handhelds (www.k12handhelds.com). Anne Schreiber. Anne has over 20 years experience as a multi-media publisher, product designer and educator. She is currently the Chief Academic Officer of Curriki - Global Education and Learning Community. Curriki, which was founded by Sun Microsystems is an organization dedicated to the creation of validated, open source K-12 curricula, which is completely free and available globally. Before joining Curriki, Anne was Vice President of Product at the Grow Network/McGraw-Hill, an assessment and instructional reporting company, providing customized instruction based on summative assessment data. Anne began her career as an elementary school teacher, developing staff and student enrichment programs. She is the author of more than a dozen books for young children. Join us! Steve Steve Hargadon http://www.stevehargadon.com st...@hargadon.com Visit Classroom 2.0 at: http://www.classroom20.com -- To control which emails you receive on Classroom 2.0, go to: http://www.classroom20.com/profiles/profile/emailSettings -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] mini developer tutorials
Stupid question on #sugar channel. I take it this starts in 10 minutes. I got onto irc.freenode.net but I can't get on #sugar - like it doesn't exist or is locked or something. Any suggestions for a newbie? I'm using Mirc in XP and usually don't have problems but connect to a different server. -Kathy -Original Message- From: iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org [mailto:iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org] On Behalf Of Walter Bender Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 6:07 AM To: iaep Subject: [IAEP] mini developer tutorials We will launch the first of the mini Developer tutorial series beginning today at 10AM EST (14:00 UTC). The goal of these tutorials is to share techniques on activity development. Today's session will be on keyboard shortcuts. Please join us on #sugar on irc.freenode.net -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] mini developer tutorials
Sorry. I should have said #sugar-meeting The command: /join #sugar-meeting should take you to the proper room. There are 80+ people in #sugar right now. Not sure why you cannot join. -walter On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Kathy Pusztavari ka...@kathyandcalvin.com wrote: Stupid question on #sugar channel. I take it this starts in 10 minutes. I got onto irc.freenode.net but I can't get on #sugar - like it doesn't exist or is locked or something. Any suggestions for a newbie? I'm using Mirc in XP and usually don't have problems but connect to a different server. -Kathy -Original Message- From: iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org [mailto:iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org] On Behalf Of Walter Bender Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 6:07 AM To: iaep Subject: [IAEP] mini developer tutorials We will launch the first of the mini Developer tutorial series beginning today at 10AM EST (14:00 UTC). The goal of these tutorials is to share techniques on activity development. Today's session will be on keyboard shortcuts. Please join us on #sugar on irc.freenode.net -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.84 on video
Hi Caroline, Thanks. Walter put a link on these video on Deployment_Team/Resources page in the SugarLabs wiki. Do you imagine something different ? Lionel. De : Caroline Meeks [mailto:solutiongr...@gmail.com] Envoyé : lundi 20 avril 2009 17:08 À : LASKE, Lionel (C2S) Cc : IAEP SugarLabs Objet : Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.84 on video These are great! Can you start a wiki page with links and descriptions and hopefully other people will follow your lead and we can create a library of these sorts of videos. Thanks! On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 8:17 AM, LASKE, Lionel (C2S) lla...@c2s.frmailto:lla...@c2s.fr wrote: Hi all, I've just published two small videos of Sugar 0.84 on two specific features: journal handling and source view. My post (in French) is on: http://olpc-france.org/blog/?p=254 You could find the videos on: * http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8zwgr_sugar-084-using-journal_tech * http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8zwl4_sugar-084-using-source-view_tech Best regards from France. Lionel. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.orgmailto:sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] 3D engine uses in a no-nonsense GUI (was: XO Gen 1.5)
One can use a 3D accelerator to greatly improve human factors in the GUI. Smooth transitions in the GUI are vital to reducing the user's sense of disorientation and confusion. This isn't just an issue for less-clueful users; you might not realize it but poor transitions are forcing needless mental effort that eats up a tiny bit of time here, a tiny bit of time there... and it all adds up. You may feel it in frustration even if you don't spot the cause. Without the 3D engine, animations are a painful compromise. They are slow, jerky, and CPU consuming. Imagine if the frame could slide into view with fast perfectly smooth motion and almost no CPU use. Think how much more usable Sugar would be. I'm far from a UI wizard, but I think I understand a lot of the perception issues and/or I'd like to learn more. I've always thought of slide into view as annoying. I have to wait around for the thing I want to look at to finish dancing. Is there a good book or paper discussing this area? Does one of Tufte's books cover this stuff? -- These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] 3D engine uses in a no-nonsense GUI (was: XO Gen 1.5)
I think most of those effects can be just as easily be done by the 2D engine (like what the Geode has). Of course it would need a LOT of coding, like killing the stupid X driver model with the X server process, using a compositing windows manager, rewriting GTK+ to use some form of retained rendering mode (like a super optimized Cairo library with some scene manager functionality) and finally fixing all of those GTK applications which became buggy because of this rendering change. Oh yeah, almost forgotten that moving to OpenGL would need just the same amount of work. So not only would it chew trough the XO 1.5's battery like crazy but it would not run on the XO 1.0 so does it really worth that effort? Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com wrote: Imagine if it actually looked like the demo: http://www.sugarlabs.org/index.php?template=gallerypage=media_01 Exactly my thoughts. There are a couple of things we have to be mindful of as we step into the wild 3D world... - memory footprint -- those smooth transitions count on having various full-screen buffers, one for each screen you might want to slide smoothly into. - batery burn -- the OpenGL API was originally designed for high end workstations, and has some battery-depleting features such as a hi-res timer event that triggers all the time and prevents sleep The iPhone uses these smooth UI tricks (to a fantastic effect), and its battery life is a fraction of every other phone -- I'd say that the 3D niceness is part of the reason why. cheers, m ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Group Protocols that support group learning and learning communities
One of the topics in my class at HGSE this semester is the use of protocols to support group work by teachers and administrators in schools. What is a Protocol? It took me half the semester to figure this out! It is such a common practice in schools that apparently nobody bothers to definite it. It is basically any predefined series of steps that a group would go through to work more effectively. Its a lot like a lesson plan but for groups of adult peers. One Protocol we are probably all familiar with is Brainstorming where you put up ideas quickly without evaluating them, then as a separate phase evaluate them. There are lots of different protocols to facilitate different sorts of work and to solve different sorts of problems. The kind of problems they might help with are: - a few people dominate the conversation; - people just repeat what everyone agrees on already and there are no new ideas coming out; - conflicts are making people uncomfortable and reducing group effeciveness; - the group talks but there is no work product at the end of the time. Why do Educators Use Protocols? We were not explicitly taught this answer, its apparently well enough estabilshed that no one asks this question anymore. In the US teachers have traditionally been isolated in their classrooms doing thier own practice. Recently there has been an introduction of common planning time across grade levels and often subect based teams but getting a bunch of people who have always worked alone together in a room doesn't garentee effective collaboration. We have used many of these protocols in class. Once you try them its pretty easy to be sold that they can be effective then unstrutured meetings or one person in front with a powerpoint meetings. Why should we use protocols? - We have a lot in common with educators. We mostly work alone and occasionally come together for common planning time. - We want educators to learn from our Open Source processes, we should model that by learning from them. - We want to understand our users, doing things the way they do it is a good step. - They work. They can be more effective, fun, interesting and less stressful. How can we use protocols? First remember its not an all or nothing, its just another option, we don't have and to use a protocol for everything! I did my first practice at Olin last week: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/April_17_Olin_Play_Session If anyone presenting in Paris would like to try some group protocols to facilitate group work around thier topic rather then, or in addition to, doing a stand in front of the room presentation please let me know. I'll bring my books of protocols and we can see which ones might fit. I'm very interested in learning how to do this better and will help facilitate for anyone interested. Resources: Web Site with free protocols : http://www.nsrfharmony.org/protocol/sitemap.html Data-Driven Dialogue: A Facilitator's Guide to Collaborative Inquiry - http://mivasecure.abac.com/miravia1/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODProduct_Code=DDCategory_Code=P The Power of Protocols: An Educator's Guide to Better Practice - http://www.amazon.com/Power-Protocols-Educators-Better-Practice/dp/0807743615 -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] More about SoaS on a MacBook
Eben, welcome to the world of K-8 education IT. There will be G4 machines in schools for years to come. Schools seldom junk hardware because they have little or no budget to replace it. On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Eben Eliason eben.elia...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 3:46 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: [adding fedora-olpc to cc] On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 23:27, Carol Farlow Lerche c...@msbit.com wrote: Caryl, the G4 has a powerpc processor, which executes an entirely different binary instruction set from the Intel-based Mac and Intel PC architecture machines. Since SOAS in all its incarnations contains binary executables prepared for an Intel processor, this won't execute on your G4 Mac. (I'm leaving aside corner cases of having some kind of hardware emulator on the G4.) Maybe someone would be interested in doing a ppc version of soas? I see issues with activities containing binary modules, but maybe we should tackle this problem sooner than later, as any of these days someone could be interested in running Sugar on ARM or MIPS netbooks. And there's still lots of PPC macs in the education sector in the US. That's true. Does anyone know the typical life span of classroom computers? Apple started producing Intel machines 4 years ago, and hasn't produced any PPC machines in the past 3. If we expect the market to last, we should definitely address it, but we should also be careful not to expend too much energy on a platform that won't exist in a couple more years, especially if it comes at the cost of more robust support on Intel macs, or other platforms altogether. Eben Regards, Tomeu On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Again, I downloaded http://www.sugarlabs.org/static/soas/soas-beta-1.zip. It took about 1 hr 45 min on a DSL connection. I haven't opened it yet...will get to that later today or this evening. But, I have a couple of questions. Is it possible to burn this file to a disk and boot from it? If so, would I unzip it first? If not, where should I put it? How do I access it? Is there any chance this version would run on a G4 MacPowerbook? I have one on hand I could try it with (it does run OSX). I would still like to be able to run from the SoaS USB with the helper CD. Someone else was having problems wiht that too. Is anyone working on a solution? Thanks, Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- I don't consider him a particularly reliable source of information. -- Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, at a House Foreign Affairs Committee meeting, on former Vice President Dick Cheney. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- I don't consider him a particularly reliable source of information. -- Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, at a House Foreign Affairs Committee meeting, on former Vice President Dick Cheney. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] More about SoaS on a MacBook
I have a dozen PPC Macs, they are workhorses which function for years on end (currently running Tiger v10.4), any info concerning how to run Sugar on them will be appreciated thanks Sean On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche c...@msbit.com wrote: Eben, welcome to the world of K-8 education IT. There will be G4 machines in schools for years to come. Schools seldom junk hardware because they have little or no budget to replace it. On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Eben Eliason eben.elia...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 3:46 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: [adding fedora-olpc to cc] On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 23:27, Carol Farlow Lerche c...@msbit.com wrote: Caryl, the G4 has a powerpc processor, which executes an entirely different binary instruction set from the Intel-based Mac and Intel PC architecture machines. Since SOAS in all its incarnations contains binary executables prepared for an Intel processor, this won't execute on your G4 Mac. (I'm leaving aside corner cases of having some kind of hardware emulator on the G4.) Maybe someone would be interested in doing a ppc version of soas? I see issues with activities containing binary modules, but maybe we should tackle this problem sooner than later, as any of these days someone could be interested in running Sugar on ARM or MIPS netbooks. And there's still lots of PPC macs in the education sector in the US. That's true. Does anyone know the typical life span of classroom computers? Apple started producing Intel machines 4 years ago, and hasn't produced any PPC machines in the past 3. If we expect the market to last, we should definitely address it, but we should also be careful not to expend too much energy on a platform that won't exist in a couple more years, especially if it comes at the cost of more robust support on Intel macs, or other platforms altogether. Eben Regards, Tomeu On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Again, I downloaded http://www.sugarlabs.org/static/soas/soas-beta-1.zip. It took about 1 hr 45 min on a DSL connection. I haven't opened it yet...will get to that later today or this evening. But, I have a couple of questions. Is it possible to burn this file to a disk and boot from it? If so, would I unzip it first? If not, where should I put it? How do I access it? Is there any chance this version would run on a G4 MacPowerbook? I have one on hand I could try it with (it does run OSX). I would still like to be able to run from the SoaS USB with the helper CD. Someone else was having problems wiht that too. Is anyone working on a solution? Thanks, Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- I don't consider him a particularly reliable source of information. -- Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, at a House Foreign Affairs Committee meeting, on former Vice President Dick Cheney. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- I don't consider him a particularly reliable source of information. -- Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, at a House Foreign Affairs Committee meeting, on former Vice President Dick Cheney. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Sugar on MacBook...still no go
Hi, I tried all sorts of things with the file that I have downloaded twice now. I seem to be able to unzip it, but it converts to .vdi and when I click on it to open it, this is the message I get: The document “soas-beta-1.vdi” could not be opened. The file is too large. This is the file that is supposed to have everything needed in one neat package that lives on the MacBook. It isn't supposed to be a document. Is there a secret to unzipping this thing so it can be used? Is there a way to open the .vdi file and run Sugar? Tomorrow is may last day to figure out how to do this. Show and tell is on Saturday. Hopefully someone will bring a PC so I can at least run SoaS from my nice labeled USB stick. I will have 5 XOs running 767 for folks to try too. Caryl___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
