Re: [IAEP] Help to Find the PO file of Some Activities to able me to Translate Them
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 17:32, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi David, On 24 May 2009, at 11:47, David Van Assche wrote: Overall it would be nice if we had an activitiy matrix that showed the stages of projects. The Activity Team have been making contact with past authors, slowly, slowly we're moving along even if it means adopting extra activities ourselves: This is awesome, congrats for the very well done job to date! I would recommend to mention who is requesting attention to the activity when contacting the authors. It's very comforting knowing about real world usage of your software and I'm sure that will be very motivating for them. Regards, Tomeu http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Activity_Status The best thing folks can do If they have a favourite activity that is not yet migrated to Sugar Labs infrastructure is make some noise about it. Email the IAEP and/or sugar-devel and advocate or ask about it, email the author/s, see if they are still working on it or have future plans. Many activity developers seem to think no one is interested/using their work and often seem pleasantly surprised when they get an email about their past efforts. This would be helpful to show what people could work on to. Something like, name of activity on one side, and on the other stage (planning, pre-source, alpha, beta, rc, release, packaged, xo bundled, translated) Something along those lines, but I'm sure someone can come up with a better matrix. If this was up at some place, we could know pretty quickly what people could be working on. It could even be split by distro too... The idea came to me because there are a ton of git projects with no code in them. If there are git projects with no code in them, what makes you think the developer will edit another page somewhere else with project status information! ;-b With my activity developer hat on, I do find it a pain how many seemingly random places there are to work on when releasing a new version, even more for a new project, or migrated one. My check-list/todo-list is something like: If it's a new project: - Create a Gitorious project repository for it http://git.sugarlabs.org/ and start hacking on your code - Request a trac component for you activity at http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ - Open a trac ticket to request addition to Pootle (if your strings/release is reasonably mature/ready) - Create a page at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/actvity-name If it's a new release: - Update your activities wiki page at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/actvity-name - Upload the .xo bundle, screenshots, notes to http://activities.sugarlabs.org/ - Upload .bz2 source to shell.sugarlabs.org /upload/sugar/sources/honey - Edit wiki table http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Source_Code and make sure it's pointing to your latest .bz2 - Edit wiki table http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Roadmap to get it on Soas - Write a [RELEASE] activity-name-version email and send it to sugar-devel If the project is migrating from olpc infrastructure: - Migrate git repository from http://dev.laptop.org/ - Migrate open trac tickets from http://dev.laptop.org/ - Track down relevant wiki.laptop.org pages and indicate the migration - For deployed activities make sure relevant http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities page version templates point to the correct/latest working bundles. I'm sure I missed a step or two, but I think you get the picture! On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi Mohammad, On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 06:36, Mohammad Hamed m.ha...@paiwastoon.com.af wrote: Dear Software Translators, Could you please tell me how can I translate some Activities like: Physics, X2O, WFP, Implode, Conozco Uruguay to my language? FWIW: Having spoken with Alex Levenson yesterday, I've started to migrate Physics over to Suage Labs infrastructure (X2o is next on my list). It runs fine on sugar-jhbuild, but does need some UI work and clean-up before I request addition to pootle for translation, or upload a bundle to activities.sugarlabs.org. I also mailed Jo Lee (Implode) about his availability, will migrate that over as well if he doesn't have the time at the moment. Regards, --Gary If you could tell me that how can I find the PO file of the activities it would be easier for me to translate them. Looks like these activities are not in pootle yet. What I think we should do is to contact the maintainers and work with them so their activities are translatable in pootle. If the activities have no active maintainers, then perhaps the Activity Team could adopt them? Regards, Tomeu Sincerely, Mohammad Hamed User Service Officer One Laptop Per Child (OLPC) Project PAIWASTOON Networking Services Ltd. Email: m.ha...@paiwastoon.com.af Mobile: 0093 786 876546 Phone: 0093 794
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Bug tracker housekeeping
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 16:54, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Dear Sugar Community, After the dust of the 0.84 release has been settled we like to clean up the database. With each new Sucrose release comes some bug tracker housekeeping. This e-mail is designed to let you know about the things we ask you to do until May 27, 2009: Submitters: Please go through all the open bugs you have submitted. If some information has been requested - please provide this information. If the bug does not apply anymore - feel free to close it and leave a short note. Owners: Please go through the bugs you own and update them accordingly. If the bugs marked 0.84 still apply - please move them to the 0.86 milestone. __ Triage day: Wednesday - 27th of May 2009 - 16.00 (UTC) I guess we'll meet in #sugar-meeting in Freenode? Regards, Tomeu - going through the list of 0.86 bugs and see if there are things that needs to be added explicitly to the Roadmap. - cleaning up left overs Thanks for reading, Simon (for the BugSquad Team [1]) [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/BugSquad ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [ANNOUNCE] Bug tracker housekeeping
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Submitters: Please go through all the open bugs you have submitted. If BTW, if there's any guidance for the test team in Bxl on how to tag the bugs found against latest SoaS, we'll be happy to follow... This search shows most (all?) the bugs we filed... http://dev.sugarlabs.org/query?status=acceptedstatus=assignedstatus=newstatus=reopenedorder=prioritycol=idcol=summarycol=statuscol=ownercol=typemilestone=soas_fossvtdistribution=SoaS cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Help to Find the PO file of Some Activities to able me to Translate Them
Super... that methodology should be written up some place as its a great guide to follow... David On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi David, On 24 May 2009, at 11:47, David Van Assche wrote: Overall it would be nice if we had an activitiy matrix that showed the stages of projects. The Activity Team have been making contact with past authors, slowly, slowly we're moving along even if it means adopting extra activities ourselves: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Activity_Status The best thing folks can do If they have a favourite activity that is not yet migrated to Sugar Labs infrastructure is make some noise about it. Email the IAEP and/or sugar-devel and advocate or ask about it, email the author/s, see if they are still working on it or have future plans. Many activity developers seem to think no one is interested/using their work and often seem pleasantly surprised when they get an email about their past efforts. This would be helpful to show what people could work on to. Something like, name of activity on one side, and on the other stage (planning, pre-source, alpha, beta, rc, release, packaged, xo bundled, translated) Something along those lines, but I'm sure someone can come up with a better matrix. If this was up at some place, we could know pretty quickly what people could be working on. It could even be split by distro too... The idea came to me because there are a ton of git projects with no code in them. If there are git projects with no code in them, what makes you think the developer will edit another page somewhere else with project status information! ;-b With my activity developer hat on, I do find it a pain how many seemingly random places there are to work on when releasing a new version, even more for a new project, or migrated one. My check-list/todo-list is something like: If it's a new project: - Create a Gitorious project repository for it http://git.sugarlabs.org/and start hacking on your code - Request a trac component for you activity at http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ - Open a trac ticket to request addition to Pootle (if your strings/release is reasonably mature/ready) - Create a page at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/actvity-name If it's a new release: - Update your activities wiki page at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/actvity-name - Upload the .xo bundle, screenshots, notes to http://activities.sugarlabs.org/ - Upload .bz2 source to shell.sugarlabs.org /upload/sugar/sources/honey - Edit wiki table http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Source_Code and make sure it's pointing to your latest .bz2 - Edit wiki table http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Roadmap to get it on Soas - Write a [RELEASE] activity-name-version email and send it to sugar-devel If the project is migrating from olpc infrastructure: - Migrate git repository from http://dev.laptop.org/ - Migrate open trac tickets from http://dev.laptop.org/ - Track down relevant wiki.laptop.org pages and indicate the migration - For deployed activities make sure relevant http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities page version templates point to the correct/latest working bundles. I'm sure I missed a step or two, but I think you get the picture! On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi Mohammad, On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 06:36, Mohammad Hamed m.ha...@paiwastoon.com.af wrote: Dear Software Translators, Could you please tell me how can I translate some Activities like: Physics, X2O, WFP, Implode, Conozco Uruguay to my language? FWIW: Having spoken with Alex Levenson yesterday, I've started to migrate Physics over to Suage Labs infrastructure (X2o is next on my list). It runs fine on sugar-jhbuild, but does need some UI work and clean-up before I request addition to pootle for translation, or upload a bundle to activities.sugarlabs.org. I also mailed Jo Lee (Implode) about his availability, will migrate that over as well if he doesn't have the time at the moment. Regards, --Gary If you could tell me that how can I find the PO file of the activities it would be easier for me to translate them. Looks like these activities are not in pootle yet. What I think we should do is to contact the maintainers and work with them so their activities are translatable in pootle. If the activities have no active maintainers, then perhaps the Activity Team could adopt them? Regards, Tomeu Sincerely, Mohammad Hamed User Service Officer One Laptop Per Child (OLPC) Project PAIWASTOON Networking Services Ltd. Email: m.ha...@paiwastoon.com.af Mobile: 0093 786 876546 Phone: 0093 794 195494 PAIWASTOON Networking Services Ltd. 1st street Kart-e-Se, Darul Aman Road Kabul, Afghanistan www.paiwastoon.com.af www.olpc.af
Re: [IAEP] SUGAR DESKTOP on Intel Mac's an alternate solution.
Lucian; My experience has been that a VM Appliance with player is quite a bit faster and needs less computer resources than Virtual Box OSE. I have only been working on Ubuntu (9.04 8.04), Fedora 10,11 windows XP as host OS so far. I have made USB sticks with a very small 1 gb Appliance and the .iso file and thus have a USB stick that is the equivalent of a live CD. I run them with the Boot stick of Ubuntu 9.04 live with VMPlayer installed.(Detailed in the wiki) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VMware The boot stick, (or an installed VMPlayer )starts a 2nd USB stick containing the SUGAR appliance The advantage: The VMPlayer can be left running without involving the host computer at all... And different students can plug their sticks in for their session on it. they also can go home and run it on their PC's without jeopardizing the integrity of the host PS's The situation /should/ be the same on an Intel Mac : / Cordially; Tom Gilliard Bend Oregon USA Lucian Branescu wrote: Works great with VirtualBox, I don't know about VMware. 2009/5/24 Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com: Hi; There is an possible alternate, interim, solution to let Intel Macs run SUGAR. *Emulation of Fedora 11 SUGAR DESKTOP Appliances.* The procedures to make the Appliances and boot sticks are documented in the wiki: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VMware The VMware web site to get the MAC program fusion and how to convert Linux and Windows Appliances to Mac Fusion format. http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/ http://www.vmware.com/download/fusion/windows_to_mac.html I do not have an Intel Mac so I have not tried this yet, but the VMPlayer appliances work very well on Windows and Linux PC's that have a difficult time booting from Soas. Tom Gilliard ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Announcing Snapshot 2009/05/24
I have tried the appliance image on VirtualBox. On the registration form it crashed with some python? error (will look the exact error if it is not a well known bug). It could be caused that I clicked more than once to the Next button. After that I only have an Automatic login user to choose from. It asked for my XO username correctly. Speak does not work, the sound output is garbage, changing languages kills the sound completely (but it does find the audio output). Browse has the same bug as in soas2-20090416.vmdk: 1. Go to Sugarlabs page (not the default page in Browse but sugarlabs.org) 2. Click on Activities 3. It will open the page in a popup window (what is different that using the default page in Browse) 4. Download an activity (I used Speak repeatedly) 5. There is no download notification and when you switch to Journal you can see that the download never finishes. Probably the notification at the end of download crashes. Sebastian Dziallas wrote: Hi folks, after a short break, there's a new snapshot ready for you. It incorporates the latest packages from the upcoming F11 release, as well the Colors activity. Please report any bugs or issues you encounter and list them appropriately for the soas_linuxtag milestone in trac, if needed. Our roadmap is located here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Roadmap The current list of bugs for the RC can be found here: http://www.tinyurl.com/soas-rc-tickets The image can be downloaded from here: http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/2/Soas2-200905241902.iso The appliance image has been made available here: http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/appliances/soas2-20090524.zip Thanks and happy testing! :) --Sebastian ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Help to Find the PO file of Some Activities to able me to Translate Them
On 25 May 2009, at 12:33, David Van Assche wrote: Super... that methodology should be written up some place as its a great guide to follow... I'd much rather try and find some agreement to cut un-necessary steps, rather than to wikify/formalise it and push every unfortunate Activity author through the same sausage factory! :-) /me puts on tinfoil hat and asbestos socks I've still not heard a good argument for why Activity authors currently need to create two bundles with identical source content (one .xo zip and one .bz2), upload them to two different locations, and document them in several different places. It's really easy to get out of sync. I'm also still not convinced about the sanity of distros needing to package up each individual Activity (other than perhaps sucrose as one collection). If, for a moment, you think of Sugar as a Firefox, and Activities as Addons, does each distro really consider packaging up every Addon kicking about for Firefox? Once a Sugar release and its platform dependancies are yum, aptitude, or whatever installed; the Sugar UI should then be the one to add/update additional Activities (via Browse as currently, or via a future update control panel checking with activity.sugarlabs.org). Regards, --Gary David On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi David, On 24 May 2009, at 11:47, David Van Assche wrote: Overall it would be nice if we had an activitiy matrix that showed the stages of projects. The Activity Team have been making contact with past authors, slowly, slowly we're moving along even if it means adopting extra activities ourselves: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Activity_Status The best thing folks can do If they have a favourite activity that is not yet migrated to Sugar Labs infrastructure is make some noise about it. Email the IAEP and/or sugar-devel and advocate or ask about it, email the author/s, see if they are still working on it or have future plans. Many activity developers seem to think no one is interested/using their work and often seem pleasantly surprised when they get an email about their past efforts. This would be helpful to show what people could work on to. Something like, name of activity on one side, and on the other stage (planning, pre-source, alpha, beta, rc, release, packaged, xo bundled, translated) Something along those lines, but I'm sure someone can come up with a better matrix. If this was up at some place, we could know pretty quickly what people could be working on. It could even be split by distro too... The idea came to me because there are a ton of git projects with no code in them. If there are git projects with no code in them, what makes you think the developer will edit another page somewhere else with project status information! ;-b With my activity developer hat on, I do find it a pain how many seemingly random places there are to work on when releasing a new version, even more for a new project, or migrated one. My check-list/ todo-list is something like: If it's a new project: - Create a Gitorious project repository for it http://git.sugarlabs.org/ and start hacking on your code - Request a trac component for you activity at http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ - Open a trac ticket to request addition to Pootle (if your strings/ release is reasonably mature/ready) - Create a page at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/actvity- name If it's a new release: - Update your activities wiki page at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/ actvity-name - Upload the .xo bundle, screenshots, notes to http://activities.sugarlabs.org/ - Upload .bz2 source to shell.sugarlabs.org /upload/sugar/sources/ honey - Edit wiki table http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Source_Code and make sure it's pointing to your latest .bz2 - Edit wiki table http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Roadmap to get it on Soas - Write a [RELEASE] activity-name-version email and send it to sugar-devel If the project is migrating from olpc infrastructure: - Migrate git repository from http://dev.laptop.org/ - Migrate open trac tickets from http://dev.laptop.org/ - Track down relevant wiki.laptop.org pages and indicate the migration - For deployed activities make sure relevant http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities page version templates point to the correct/latest working bundles. I'm sure I missed a step or two, but I think you get the picture! On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi Mohammad, On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 06:36, Mohammad Hamed m.ha...@paiwastoon.com.af wrote: Dear Software Translators, Could you please tell me how can I translate some Activities like: Physics, X2O, WFP, Implode, Conozco Uruguay to my language? FWIW: Having spoken with Alex
Re: [IAEP] rEFIT for Mac Boot of SoaS - Not working for me. Anyone been successful?
I can boot from the CD by holding down c. Works fine, boots all the way to Sugar. I'm working on figuirng out the general landscape of Mac solutions. Specifically for rEFIT I have an old macbook with a broken CD drive so if I could get rEFIT to work I could test on it. :) On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Caroline, I'm curious, do you see the CD at boot time with the option key pressed? Can you preselect it in OSX in the Startup Disk section of the Control Panel? thanks Sean On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Hi, I'm taking another thread and replying in a few different posts so we can get better subjects. The issue is ways to boot a Mac. One solution is installing rEFIT. I tried this and it works with the CD for both SoaS and F11 but does not allow me to boot directly from the stick. Has anyone else gotten this to work directly from the stick? Thanks, Caroline -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] rEFIT for Mac Boot of SoaS - Not working for me. Anyone been successful?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 01:21:00PM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote: I can boot from the CD by holding down c. Works fine, boots all the way to Sugar. Using that keypress you do not need rEFIt. And there is no equivalent keypress for USB sticks :-P - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEAREDAAYFAkoa2R0ACgkQn7DbMsAkQLh6fACePW8fu3jQtQTTe1D1S7JDYiT4 y4kAnAreUvebNu/2wZ2eZfIDFA1Rr1uD =BnLy -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] rEFIT for Mac Boot of SoaS - Not working for me. Anyone been successful?
Jonas is correct, the nearest equivalent is the Option key... to show valid boot volumes to choose from at boot time... which is why i was wondering if the CD is identified as a boot volume by OSX. I constructed a bless command (http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2009-May/005882.html) which boots SoaS from the USB key, even though the volume is not identified as bootable by OSX. The boot is interrupted and falls to a root prompt, but it may be possible to overcome that bug and boot into Sugar directly from the key. Mathieu Bridon of the fedora project has given me some advice, I hope to be able to work on that over the next couple of days. By the way he says the Fedora PPC version should be able to boot PowerPC (pre-Intel) Macs, and doesn't see why Sugar couldn't run on top of that. Am I missing something? thanks Sean On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 01:21:00PM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote: I can boot from the CD by holding down c. Works fine, boots all the way to Sugar. Using that keypress you do not need rEFIt. And there is no equivalent keypress for USB sticks :-P - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEAREDAAYFAkoa2R0ACgkQn7DbMsAkQLh6fACePW8fu3jQtQTTe1D1S7JDYiT4 y4kAnAreUvebNu/2wZ2eZfIDFA1Rr1uD =BnLy -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] PowerPC SoaS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 09:06:07PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: By the way he says the Fedora PPC version should be able to boot PowerPC (pre-Intel) Macs, and doesn't see why Sugar couldn't run on top of that. Am I missing something? Don't know if you are missing it or not, but a PowerPC SoaS (i.e. Linux kernel + GNU/BSD/whatever userspace + X11 + Python + Sucrose, all compiled for PowerPC) will happily update its activities to newer Intel-compiled ones that will then fail. Pure-Python Activities will work, but ones containing embedded libraries will fail. Apart from that, I can't think of other obstacles at the moment. Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEAREDAAYFAkoa8CAACgkQn7DbMsAkQLgpPQCgiLM7ciBZ+bQp03NoMPbQB4oG wysAmgNzmGnDpQuwI9jBRAk0z3LrtbGb =DJiR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] SUGAR DESKTOP on Intel Mac's an alternate solution.
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Lucian; My experience has been that a VM Appliance with player is quite a bit faster and needs less computer resources than Virtual Box OSE. VMWare Player does not exist for OS X so that is not an option. Virtualbox is the only free option that performs acceptably on Windows and OS X Hosts right now. Virtualbox can boot the appliance, I think, with some fiddling around. Dave I have only been working on Ubuntu (9.04 8.04), Fedora 10,11 windows XP as host OS so far. I have made USB sticks with a very small 1 gb Appliance and the .iso file and thus have a USB stick that is the equivalent of a live CD. I run them with the Boot stick of Ubuntu 9.04 live with VMPlayer installed.(Detailed in the wiki) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VMware The boot stick, (or an installed VMPlayer )starts a 2nd USB stick containing the SUGAR appliance The advantage: The VMPlayer can be left running without involving the host computer at all... And different students can plug their sticks in for their session on it. they also can go home and run it on their PC's without jeopardizing the integrity of the host PS's The situation *should* be the same on an Intel Mac : / Cordially; Tom Gilliard Bend Oregon USA Lucian Branescu wrote: Works great with VirtualBox, I don't know about VMware. 2009/5/24 Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com satel...@bendbroadband.com: Hi; There is an possible alternate, interim, solution to let Intel Macs run SUGAR. *Emulation of Fedora 11 SUGAR DESKTOP Appliances.* The procedures to make the Appliances and boot sticks are documented in the wiki: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VMware The VMware web site to get the MAC program fusion and how to convert Linux and Windows Appliances to Mac Fusion format. http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/http://www.vmware.com/download/fusion/windows_to_mac.html I do not have an Intel Mac so I have not tried this yet, but the VMPlayer appliances work very well on Windows and Linux PC's that have a difficult time booting from Soas. Tom Gilliard ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)i...@lists.sugarlabs.orghttp://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com http://www.solutiongrove.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Help to Find the PO file of Some Activities to able me to Translate Them
Well the main thing here is about demoing... I've taken it upon myself to package about 50 activities... including fructose and glucose... now... we have things like flash which isnt an xo bundle, though many people believe it could/should be, and that would/should be considered a honey app, but it must be installed via rpm Really the only process required with the new jhconvert alexey has been working on is upload to git, then jhconvert creates the packages for the all the distros, including the .xo bundles... so really we want to make it as easy as authors not having to worry about packaging at all... just about uploading their latest source to git.sugarlabs.org, the only place the source really needs to be... we can automate the rest... but your process is currently the only sane thing I've seen written up and it'd be a shame to loose it in the anals of archived emails... so better wiki than nothing, no? kind Regards, David Van Assche On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 25 May 2009, at 12:33, David Van Assche wrote: Super... that methodology should be written up some place as its a great guide to follow... I'd much rather try and find some agreement to cut un-necessary steps, rather than to wikify/formalise it and push every unfortunate Activity author through the same sausage factory! :-) /me puts on tinfoil hat and asbestos socks I've still not heard a good argument for why Activity authors currently need to create two bundles with identical source content (one .xo zip and one .bz2), upload them to two different locations, and document them in several different places. It's really easy to get out of sync. I'm also still not convinced about the sanity of distros needing to package up each individual Activity (other than perhaps sucrose as one collection). If, for a moment, you think of Sugar as a Firefox, and Activities as Addons, does each distro really consider packaging up every Addon kicking about for Firefox? Once a Sugar release and its platform dependancies are yum, aptitude, or whatever installed; the Sugar UI should then be the one to add/update additional Activities (via Browse as currently, or via a future update control panel checking with activity.sugarlabs.org). Regards, --Gary David On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi David, On 24 May 2009, at 11:47, David Van Assche wrote: Overall it would be nice if we had an activitiy matrix that showed the stages of projects. The Activity Team have been making contact with past authors, slowly, slowly we're moving along even if it means adopting extra activities ourselves: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Activity_Status The best thing folks can do If they have a favourite activity that is not yet migrated to Sugar Labs infrastructure is make some noise about it. Email the IAEP and/or sugar-devel and advocate or ask about it, email the author/s, see if they are still working on it or have future plans. Many activity developers seem to think no one is interested/using their work and often seem pleasantly surprised when they get an email about their past efforts. This would be helpful to show what people could work on to. Something like, name of activity on one side, and on the other stage (planning, pre-source, alpha, beta, rc, release, packaged, xo bundled, translated) Something along those lines, but I'm sure someone can come up with a better matrix. If this was up at some place, we could know pretty quickly what people could be working on. It could even be split by distro too... The idea came to me because there are a ton of git projects with no code in them. If there are git projects with no code in them, what makes you think the developer will edit another page somewhere else with project status information! ;-b With my activity developer hat on, I do find it a pain how many seemingly random places there are to work on when releasing a new version, even more for a new project, or migrated one. My check-list/todo-list is something like: If it's a new project: - Create a Gitorious project repository for it http://git.sugarlabs.org/ and start hacking on your code - Request a trac component for you activity at http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ - Open a trac ticket to request addition to Pootle (if your strings/release is reasonably mature/ready) - Create a page at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/actvity-name If it's a new release: - Update your activities wiki page at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/actvity-name - Upload the .xo bundle, screenshots, notes to http://activities.sugarlabs.org/ - Upload .bz2 source to shell.sugarlabs.org /upload/sugar/sources/honey - Edit wiki table http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Source_Code and make sure it's pointing to your latest .bz2 - Edit wiki table
Re: [IAEP] PowerPC SoaS
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 21:23, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 09:06:07PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: By the way he says the Fedora PPC version should be able to boot PowerPC (pre-Intel) Macs, and doesn't see why Sugar couldn't run on top of that. Am I missing something? Don't know if you are missing it or not, but a PowerPC SoaS (i.e. Linux kernel + GNU/BSD/whatever userspace + X11 + Python + Sucrose, all compiled for PowerPC) will happily update its activities to newer Intel-compiled ones that will then fail. Pure-Python Activities will work, but ones containing embedded libraries will fail. Apart from that, I can't think of other obstacles at the moment. Agreed. I think Aleksey has done some work for bundling binaries for several architectures in a single bundle. I guess we could generalize this work further for the activities that need it. Regards, Tomeu Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEAREDAAYFAkoa8CAACgkQn7DbMsAkQLgpPQCgiLM7ciBZ+bQp03NoMPbQB4oG wysAmgNzmGnDpQuwI9jBRAk0z3LrtbGb =DJiR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] SUGAR DESKTOP on Intel Mac's an alternate solution.
No fiddling required actually. Click import, choose file, boot. VirtualBox is very fast with VT-x and AMD-V. 2009/5/25 Dave Bauer dave.ba...@gmail.com: On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Lucian; My experience has been that a VM Appliance with player is quite a bit faster and needs less computer resources than Virtual Box OSE. VMWare Player does not exist for OS X so that is not an option. Virtualbox is the only free option that performs acceptably on Windows and OS X Hosts right now. Virtualbox can boot the appliance, I think, with some fiddling around. Dave I have only been working on Ubuntu (9.04 8.04), Fedora 10,11 windows XP as host OS so far. I have made USB sticks with a very small 1 gb Appliance and the .iso file and thus have a USB stick that is the equivalent of a live CD. I run them with the Boot stick of Ubuntu 9.04 live with VMPlayer installed.(Detailed in the wiki) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VMware The boot stick, (or an installed VMPlayer )starts a 2nd USB stick containing the SUGAR appliance The advantage: The VMPlayer can be left running without involving the host computer at all... And different students can plug their sticks in for their session on it. they also can go home and run it on their PC's without jeopardizing the integrity of the host PS's The situation should be the same on an Intel Mac : / Cordially; Tom Gilliard Bend Oregon USA Lucian Branescu wrote: Works great with VirtualBox, I don't know about VMware. 2009/5/24 Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com: Hi; There is an possible alternate, interim, solution to let Intel Macs run SUGAR. *Emulation of Fedora 11 SUGAR DESKTOP Appliances.* The procedures to make the Appliances and boot sticks are documented in the wiki: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VMware The VMware web site to get the MAC program fusion and how to convert Linux and Windows Appliances to Mac Fusion format. http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/ http://www.vmware.com/download/fusion/windows_to_mac.html I do not have an Intel Mac so I have not tried this yet, but the VMPlayer appliances work very well on Windows and Linux PC's that have a difficult time booting from Soas. Tom Gilliard ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com http://www.solutiongrove.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Did anyone get a photo of the getting involved Funnel we did in Paris?
Hi, Can anyone point me to a picture of the funnel my group did in the Paris camp. I want to do a write up on it. Thanks! Caroline -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Did anyone get a photo of the getting involved Funnel we did in Paris?
Hi Caroline, On 25 May 2009, at 21:38, Caroline Meeks wrote: Hi, Can anyone point me to a picture of the funnel my group did in the Paris camp. I want to do a write up on it. It's here, but it's too low resolution (non-pro Flickr I'm afraid), will email you the high resolution image off list: http://www.flickr.com/photos/50394...@n00/3539794155/in/set-72157618264065620/ Regards, --Gary Thanks! Caroline -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Fwd: Facilitating Online
This looks pretty interesting and might be something that could be mixed into a course on using Sugar and/or useful for our community development. -- Forwarded message -- From: Laura Czerniewicz laura.czerniew...@uct.ac.za Date: Tue, May 19, 2009 at 2:34 AM Subject: Facilitating Online To: itfo...@listserv.uga.edu This new resource may be of interest... Facilitating Online is a course intended for training educators as online facilitators of fully online and mixed mode courses. The Centre for Educational Technology (CET) produced a Course Leader’s Guide as an Open Educational Resource to assist educators and trainers who wish to implement a course on online facilitation within their institution or across several institutions. The guide contains the course model, week-by-week learning activities, general guidance to the course leader on how to implement and customise the course and specific guidelines on each learning activity. The Guide is available from CET at http://www.cet.uct.ac.za/FacilitatingOnline or from OER Commons http://www.oercommons.org/courses/facilitating-online Laura __ UNIVERSITY OF CAPE TOWN This e-mail is subject to the UCT ICT policies and e-mail disclaimer published on our website at http://www.uct.ac.za/about/policies/emaildisclaimer/ or obtainable from +27 21 650 4500. This e-mail is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If the e-mail has reached you in error, please notify the author. If you are not the intended recipient of the e-mail you may not use, disclose, copy, redirect or print the content. If this e-mail is not related to the business of UCT it is sent by the sender in the sender's individual capacity. _ For information about this list, including archives and how to unsubscribe, please go to the ITFORUM web site: http://it.coe.uga.edu/itforum/ -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
