Re: [IAEP] Linuxtag - Getting involved [---Update---]
On 06/08/2009 01:56 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, Linuxtag [1] is getting closer. If you are attending please add your name here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Events/LinuxTag2009#Attendees As some of you may have heard we will be having a booth there. Please take shifts at our booth. Ideally a shift is two persons. Helping at the booth means answering questions regarding Sugar and Sugar Labs, demoing Sugar and flashing Soas on request. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Events/LinuxTag2009#Sugar_Booth I have started to put up information on lodging. Hotel Funkturm sounds quite interesting. I have called them Saturday - and one 4-6 person room was left. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Events/LinuxTag2009#Lodging Thanks, Simon [1] 24.-27. Juni: http://www.linuxtag.org/2009/en.html http://www.linuxtag.org/2009/dl/projekte/Halle7.2a/198-50198--72a110a.pdf This is what our booth looks like at Linuxtag. Remember we have this area with 5 other projects. We will occupy one of the info centers. Additionally we will get a little table right next to it to demo the sugar software - one bigger screen should be enough here (I have that device already). The classroom is of skolinux. But if we arrange with them we can use it as well - we should have a concept though of course. Check with me for further discussions. Please take shifts at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Events/LinuxTag2009#Sugar_Booth You will get a Linuxtag ticket in exchange from me ;p Regards, Simon ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Fructose = Sugar essentials (was: ASLO Suggestion)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 18:18, Jonas Smedegaardd...@jones.dk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 04:33:29PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: IMO, the only reason for an activity to be part of Fructose is to be tied closely to the release cycle. For most activities this will be a bad thing, but for some it's good. I think it's good for activities that depend closely on some part of the platform, so that when the platform updates, say, xulrunner or evince, the activity for this release cycle won't work in the past releases and past versions won't work in the last release cycle. Using the same release cycle as the platform makes things much easier. I strongly disagree with above: Sugarlabs should provide a minimal, core, essential system, that other activities are supposed to rely on as sole platform. Agreed, that's http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/SugarPlatform/0.84 Essentially you are saying (or I am reading into it) that Fructose activities are those relying on unstable/missing Sugar ABI. No, released stable versions of fructose activities rely on at least the last stable version of Sugar Platform. With your logic, activities that rely on non-Sugar libraries, like TamTam, should be part of Fructose, as future releases of CSound cannot be trusted to keep binary compatibility. Just to name a single example. I think you misunderstood me but cannot see in which way. TamTam, as any well-behaved activity, relies solely on a released version of the sugar platform. They are free to follow or not the sugar release cycle. In my opinion *no* activities should be tied to the Sugar release cycle. Instead, *all* Activities, Fructose or not, should strive to be backwards compatible, but might fail to do so for various reasons. I would like them to be backwards compatible but we should accept the fact that some won't be. Right now I'm adding tabs to Browse and I'm not going to try to find a way to make it backwards compatible because I have a ton of other things to work on. If someone else has the time and will to do so, patches are welcome. I agree with Gary on this (which you didn't comment on, Tomeu): For me, the only reason for Fructose is for those Activities considered an essential part of the Sugar platform, i.e without Browse it's going to be tough to install other Activities, without Read you won't be able to read documentation. Most Activities ended up in Fructose because their developers were also 'core' developers (those also working on the core Sugar platform), and they usually needed specific Activities to actually test and exercise the various features they were working on and integrating in Sugar. As I said, I disagree with the explanation that Gary gives about why activities are in Fructose, though I agree it's confusing. I don't have nothing against having a list of basic activities, but are some activities that are going to depend closely on the last released Sugar Platform and those being in Fructose is going to make things easier for everybody. Regards, Tomeu Kind regards, - Jonas P.S. Please pretty please cleanup your emails: strip quoted text that you do not comment on. That goes to all of you. P.P.S. If you read this far, it is most likely because I did not include a few miles of dead quotes of earlier mails. :-P - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEAREDAAYFAkoxLj0ACgkQn7DbMsAkQLh2JwCfWg+QRX+A2ApnNvisp3LaTAK6 wpUAmwTScLwIkweEBBSuOzswgLcPeyoH =a2Uv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Linuxtag - Getting involved [---Update---]
Has Rita from Etoys gotten a hold of you? I believe that she was interested in having some of the squeak developers stay with the Sugar team? Secondly, should we redirect the SugarCamp Berlin page to FudCon Berlin?Are there any logistical considerations that you might want to keep separate? david On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: On 06/08/2009 01:56 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, Linuxtag [1] is getting closer. If you are attending please add your name here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Events/LinuxTag2009#Attendees As some of you may have heard we will be having a booth there. Please take shifts at our booth. Ideally a shift is two persons. Helping at the booth means answering questions regarding Sugar and Sugar Labs, demoing Sugar and flashing Soas on request. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Events/LinuxTag2009#Sugar_Booth I have started to put up information on lodging. Hotel Funkturm sounds quite interesting. I have called them Saturday - and one 4-6 person room was left. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Events/LinuxTag2009#Lodging Thanks, Simon [1] 24.-27. Juni: http://www.linuxtag.org/2009/en.html http://www.linuxtag.org/2009/dl/projekte/Halle7.2a/198-50198--72a110a.pdf This is what our booth looks like at Linuxtag. Remember we have this area with 5 other projects. We will occupy one of the info centers. Additionally we will get a little table right next to it to demo the sugar software - one bigger screen should be enough here (I have that device already). The classroom is of skolinux. But if we arrange with them we can use it as well - we should have a concept though of course. Check with me for further discussions. Please take shifts at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Events/LinuxTag2009#Sugar_Booth You will get a Linuxtag ticket in exchange from me ;p Regards, Simon ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] personalisation and collaboration
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 13:00, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com wrote: Something has been in the back of my head for a while now, ever since I've seen the impressive capabilities of being able to share an activity with your neighbourhood. Being able to cooperatively use applications brings a new level of playability to it all, and it reminds me of when I first saw the ability for a computer game to be 'multi-player.'This gave it an extra dimension, and with it came the idea of awards for completing certain things, which would be displayed in your dashoard somewhere.The award system seems even more relevant for education than it did for games. We'v aleady mentioned the benefits of an award sysem so I'm not going to regugitate that, but what hasnt''t really been spoken about is, how and what kind of personal details should the journal store and share. I see this as a customisable option, something that can be as simple as only sharing first names, or sharing the name of your pet, your favorite colors and foods, the languages you speak. This detailed information about a person is extremely valuable to the underlying system, as it can potentially match people against each other. This would allow for some interesting possibilities when it comes to collaboration, such as the system suggesting users to challenge/collaborate with based on personal information. I thought about having a robot that lives on an irc channel capable of helping with the collaboration procedure, as well as listing achievements, giving data on which users want to collaborate, giving help on how collaboration works with particular activities, listing which servers have open collaboration, showing the most used/highest rated collaborating activities, etc. I guess tagging of buddies is related in some measure to this? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Release/Roadmap/0.86#Groups Yes, I think these goals are definitely in line. Our early mockups for the XO palette included info such as a photo, name, age, and interests, or perhaps other personal info so that kids could meet and learn about each other online. Moreover, as Tomeu mentions, these tags and metadata would be searchable in the neighborhood, so that searching for chess would brinfg not only chess activities, but anyone who mentioned they liked chess in their profile. Regards, Tomeu I havent thought about this too much in depth, but I know coding a bot is not too hard. I see it as an extension to the speak AI, and encouragement to join irc. We can even get the bot to accept uploads of raw learning materials categorised by subject, which can then be used by content creators. it itself could give out quizzes based on particular subjects, or interesting pieces of information/knowledge. It could be taught new information, by feeding it localised knowledge. It would be important to know where we set the limits to what it can do. Just some food for thought... This is a very interesting idea. Another perspective to think about this from is a persistent activity. That is, it could just be some activity that's running on a server all the time, rather than just on personal XOs, so that it remains available permanently even when everyone else leaves. naturally, this approach would require some way for the server to push some code to the client, temporarily or permanently, in order to interact with the persistent activity. That idea is loosely related to the future goal of seamless transfer and installation of activities which one doesn't have when joining them in the neighborhood. Eben David (nubae) Van Assche ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Fwd: An interesting project I stumbled across
Forwarding to the community... -- Forwarded message -- From: William Schaub Date: Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 6:31 PM Subject: An interesting project I stumbled across To: Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com This looks like something that is right up the alley of the OLPC groups and sugar labs etc. http://www.wizzydigital.org/index.html using UUCP and memory sticks and couriers they are able to connect schools to the internet in areas where there is ZERO connectivity. ... However this whizzy digital courrier could be VERY successfully used on a classroom server or a specially outfitted XO laptop with some extra storage via an added USB storage device. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Fwd: An interesting project I stumbled across
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Frederick Grosefgr...@gmail.com wrote: Forwarding to the community... -- Forwarded message -- From: William Schaub Date: Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 6:31 PM Subject: An interesting project I stumbled across To: Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com This looks like something that is right up the alley of the OLPC groups and sugar labs etc. http://www.wizzydigital.org/index.html using UUCP and memory sticks and couriers they are able to connect schools to the internet in areas where there is ZERO connectivity. ... However this whizzy digital courrier could be VERY successfully used on a classroom server or a specially outfitted XO laptop with some extra storage via an added USB storage device. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep +1 Some similar approaches: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sneakernet and http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Motoman Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Information Systems San Francisco State University San Francisco CA 94132 USA http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://opensource.sfsu.edu/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Provider of Interactive Teaching Solutions Joins Linux Foundation
According to the Linux Foundation Newsletter... | Provider of Interactive Teaching Solutions Joins Linux Foundation | | The Linux Foundation welcomes mimio as the newest member | of the Linux Foundation. | | mimio, a leading provider of interactive teaching solutions, recognizes | the increasing importance of Linux within educational communities | worldwide, as well as the benefits of deploying Linux as a means of | lowering per-student IT costs. As one of the first interactive teaching | technologies to support the Linux operating system, mimio supports | both Linux device driver and cross-platform capabilities, making it the | only interactive teaching solution available in Linux. | | As the newest member of the Linux Foundation, mimio will use popular | tools such as the “App Checker” to ease code development as it makes | Linux applications more portable than ever before. | | http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/announcements/2009/06/provider-interactive-teaching-solutions-joins-linux-foundation Not meant as an endorsement, merely letting folks know, in case there's room for collaboration... Mimio's web site (http://www.mimio.com/) says Visit us at NECC Booth 2236 -- Ubuntu Linux DC LoCo Washington, DC http://dc.ubuntu-us.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Provider of Interactive Teaching Solutions Joins Linux Foundation
Then again, perhaps that was premature... ;-) Under Downloads | Keep current with the latest software | | Enjoy all the amazing things you can do with your | mimio Interactive system by taking advantage of the | most recent software releases. Upgrade here in minutes | to the newest versions of mimio Studio. | | Downloads are grouped by Windows or Macintosh operating | system. If you are not sure which software version you need | - or which upgrade your previously released mimio product will | accept - check with Technical Support. We will be happy to | offer guidance. | | mimio Studio Version 6.11 | Size: 92.6 MB | Language: English | Operating Systems: 2000/XP/Vista | Products: mimio Interactive System, mimio Capture Kit ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Provider of Interactive Teaching Solutions Joins Linux Foundation
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Kevin Coledc.l...@gmail.com wrote: Then again, perhaps that was premature... ;-) Under Downloads I think mimio is a white board storage storage system. The original project was started by a guy who thought he was spending too many brain cycles scribbling down what the professor was writing rather than trying to understand the material. david | Keep current with the latest software | | Enjoy all the amazing things you can do with your | mimio Interactive system by taking advantage of the | most recent software releases. Upgrade here in minutes | to the newest versions of mimio Studio. | | Downloads are grouped by Windows or Macintosh operating | system. If you are not sure which software version you need | - or which upgrade your previously released mimio product will | accept - check with Technical Support. We will be happy to | offer guidance. | | mimio Studio Version 6.11 | Size: 92.6 MB | Language: English | Operating Systems: 2000/XP/Vista | Products: mimio Interactive System, mimio Capture Kit ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Provider of Interactive Teaching Solutions Joins Linux Foundation
David, we have a mimio unit at school, it is a portable interactive whiteboard. It is cheaper now to use the IR pens and a wiimote. Probably outside the scope of this project but worth considering adding drivers etc. http://www.flickr.com/photos/*plakboek*/357787422http://www.flickr.com/photos/plakboek/357787422(mimio) http:// goog_1244860729560www.flickr.com/photos/*plakboek*/2918695790http://www.flickr.com/photos/plakboek/2918695790(wiimote) Regards Roland 2009/6/13 David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Kevin Coledc.l...@gmail.com wrote: Then again, perhaps that was premature... ;-) Under Downloads I think mimio is a white board storage storage system. The original project was started by a guy who thought he was spending too many brain cycles scribbling down what the professor was writing rather than trying to understand the material. david | Keep current with the latest software | | Enjoy all the amazing things you can do with your | mimio Interactive system by taking advantage of the | most recent software releases. Upgrade here in minutes | to the newest versions of mimio Studio. | | Downloads are grouped by Windows or Macintosh operating | system. If you are not sure which software version you need | - or which upgrade your previously released mimio product will | accept - check with Technical Support. We will be happy to | offer guidance. | | mimio Studio Version 6.11 | Size: 92.6 MB | Language: English | Operating Systems: 2000/XP/Vista | Products: mimio Interactive System, mimio Capture Kit ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Roland Gesthuizen - ICT Coordinator - Westall Secondary College http://www.westallsc.vic.edu.au Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed it is the only thing that ever has. --Margaret Mead ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
