Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Problems Saving in Scratch
You can save projects in scratch by putting them in a certain folder. (1) Click save (2) When the save dialog comes up, click the Desktop button on the left. (3) Type the name of your project, and click OK The Desktop shortcut goes to /home/olpc/isolation/1/uid_to_home_dir/1/data, which I guess you can save to from within Scratch. Screenshot of dialog after clicking Desktop (and revealing the path): http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~bjordan/Picture%2038.png Brian On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Ton van Overbeektvoverb...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Caryl Bigenhocbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Walter and All, I tried your suggestion and the Terminal returned(blue but not a link): /home/olpc/Activities/Scratch.activity I went back into Scratch and it still failed to Save. I assumed the l characters were lowercase Ls, after trying upper case Is and getting a command not found. I have not tried 1s. I also assumed the tilde is the one just to the left of the 1 key. Any idea what is happening? Thanks, Caryl Walter meant ls -ld ... (lowercase L, lowercase S, space, minus sign,lowercase L, lowercase D). This should show who is the owner of the /home/olpc/Activities/Scratch.activity directory. If is is the wrong owner, it explains your problems with saving Scratch projects. HTH Ton van Overbeek ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Still Problems Saving in Scratch. Who Can Solve This Mystery?
On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 10:55:39PM -0700, Caryl Bigenho wrote: OK, I tried the code in the Terminal Activity again a few times, being sure I was typing it in correctly and now I get this result: [...] Then it returns a prompt. All very colorful, but I haven't a clue what it all means. You're not typing what they asked you to (since it's gibberish to you that's understandable). You typed ls ld ~olpc/Activities/Scratch.activity ...but you want to type: ls -ld ~olpc/Activities/Scratch.activity (note the minus sign, and where the spaces are) See my initial message at the bottom to see what the problem is saving a Scratch project on XOs running build 802. I think Bryan's answered your original question: one has to change the folder in which one saves from the default that's offered. I do notice that the code on the prompt varies with the machine: o...@xo-27-90-c8 ~]$ o...@xo-0d-5c-68 ~]$ o...@xo-27-8a-0f ~]$ I assume these are just individual codes for each machine. Your assumption is correct. Have others experienced this problem saving in Scratch? Is it new to 802? Is there an easy fix? I will be happy to grannie-fy it into the wiki and or FLOSS manual if you tell me what it is! The fix is what Bryan said: You can save projects in scratch by putting them in a certain folder. (1) Click save (2) When the save dialog comes up, click the Desktop button on the left. (3) Type the name of your project, and click OK The Desktop shortcut goes to /home/olpc/isolation/1/uid_to_home_dir/1/data, which I guess you can save to from within Scratch. Screenshot of dialog after clicking Desktop (and revealing the path): http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~bjordan/Picture%2038.png Thanks,Caryl Martin pgpGA7z1BWKk2.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Still Problems Saving in Scratch. Who Can Solve This Mystery?
On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Martin Denglermar...@martindengler.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 10:55:39PM -0700, Caryl Bigenho wrote: OK, I tried the code in the Terminal Activity again a few times, being sure I was typing it in correctly and now I get this result: [...] Then it returns a prompt. All very colorful, but I haven't a clue what it all means. You're not typing what they asked you to (since it's gibberish to you that's understandable). You typed ls ld ~olpc/Activities/Scratch.activity ...but you want to type: ls -ld ~olpc/Activities/Scratch.activity For those of us who had (still have) trouble remembering the somewhat terse nature of linux commands:-/ 'ls' - The command. LiSt the contents of a directory. ' -' - space dash - get ready for some one letter modifiers. 'l'- Long - Shows you huge amounts of information (permissions, owners, size, and when last modified.) ' 'd' - Directory - If an argument is a directory it only lists its name not its contents. ' ~olpc/Activities/Scratch.activity' - note the space - The argument which tells the command which directory to look at. The tilde is a shortcut to point at you 'home' directory. check out http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_ls.htm for more information. david (note the minus sign, and where the spaces are) See my initial message at the bottom to see what the problem is saving a Scratch project on XOs running build 802. I think Bryan's answered your original question: one has to change the folder in which one saves from the default that's offered. I do notice that the code on the prompt varies with the machine: o...@xo-27-90-c8 ~]$ o...@xo-0d-5c-68 ~]$ o...@xo-27-8a-0f ~]$ I assume these are just individual codes for each machine. Your assumption is correct. Have others experienced this problem saving in Scratch? Is it new to 802? Is there an easy fix? I will be happy to grannie-fy it into the wiki and or FLOSS manual if you tell me what it is! The fix is what Bryan said: You can save projects in scratch by putting them in a certain folder. (1) Click save (2) When the save dialog comes up, click the Desktop button on the left. (3) Type the name of your project, and click OK The Desktop shortcut goes to /home/olpc/isolation/1/uid_to_home_dir/1/data, which I guess you can save to from within Scratch. Screenshot of dialog after clicking Desktop (and revealing the path): http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~bjordan/Picture%2038.png Thanks,Caryl Martin ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- David Farning Sugar Labs www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Google Docs and Power Point
On 7/3/09, Jim Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: Sameer, The issue of what to do with existing Power Point slides can probably be handled by using Google Docs, which can import existing Power Point presentations from your hard drive. Once imported you could download them as PDF's for the Read Activity. I haven't tried importing a presentation from Power Point yet (people keep sending them to me but I don't keep them) but from what I've seen of Google Docs so far I'd be surprised if it wasn't a workable solution. Google Docs can also import presentations from Open Office. Googledocs is fine, but I am looking at environments where we don't have net access. Additionally, Read can display PDFs but I was looking for fullscreen presentation mode of evince. Sameer For teachers authoring presentations Google Docs should be fine. Students can and should use Turtle Art, Etoys, View Slides, etc. as they see fit. James Simmons On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:07 AM, iaep-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org wrote: Send IAEP mailing list submissions to There is also the issue of existing materials that are already authored in Powerpoint and need to be imported into a format that's processable by an activity on the XO. Re-doing all such material in yet another format is painful. Maybe something that can take a ppt file and push png of each slide to the Journal for view slides or TA to pick up. Powerpoint itself will export each slide to a jpg or png, but I haven't had much luck with OOo for batch export (it does the export one slide at a time). The other option is to run PDFs full screen like evince. All these approaches take care of display, but still do not address authoring in Sugar. cheers, Sameer ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugarcamp - November 7th-12th 2009 ?
On 07/01/2009 05:38 PM, David Farning wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 6:41 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: On 07/01/2009 12:49 AM, David Farning wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: On 06/29/2009 10:09 PM, David Farning wrote: On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi, the SFScon 2009 will be held in Bolzano [1]. As part of that the TIS[2] would be willing host a Sugarcamp. The camp would be part of the free software week [3], where a GNOME Hackfest will happen as well. It fits quite well in our release cycle (0.88 planning/hacking) and having the GNOME Hackfest next door would create nice synergies. We would start on a weekend to have better chances on getting (students and people who have to work during the week) everyone a chance to attend. How does that sound? Sounds good. Any one in mind to champion the event? Do you have a point of contact with event organizers so we can start working on the admin? I'll help. But based on LinuxTag you seem to have event organization pretty much figured out. david The Sugarcamp will be a different event than Linuxtag. Linuxtag was a show where you have to setup gear and get promotion material together, the camp is more planning what you want to discuss during those days. Having participated in SugarCamp Paris and some FudCons. How do you feel about the participant led format of the event? FWIW, SugarCamp Paris was intentional in it's lack of pre-organization to break from the 'Sage on Stage' broadcasting to the unwashed masses nature of previous Sugar Labs meetings. I like how Fudcon handles it - that would be a good way to go for me. It is good to announce some topics - so interested people have the possibility to join. And - we should see what the GNOME people are up to, too. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/Organization Regards, Simon ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Google Docs and Power Point
On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Jim Simmonsnices...@gmail.com wrote: Sameer, The Read Activity can display PDFs fullscreen. You need to open the PDF the usual way and then press Alt-Enter. Currently Read displays documents as continuous pages, but I believe that evince can display one page at a time and perhaps the Read Activity could be made to do that at some point too. It would make looking at PowerPoint presentations in full screen more like using the Power Point viewer and might use less memory too. +1 The one page at a time display would be greatjust what I'm looking for. PS: cc'ing the list again. Sameer James Simmons On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Sameer Vermasve...@sfsu.edu wrote: On 7/3/09, Jim Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: Sameer, The issue of what to do with existing Power Point slides can probably be handled by using Google Docs, which can import existing Power Point presentations from your hard drive. Once imported you could download them as PDF's for the Read Activity. I haven't tried importing a presentation from Power Point yet (people keep sending them to me but I don't keep them) but from what I've seen of Google Docs so far I'd be surprised if it wasn't a workable solution. Google Docs can also import presentations from Open Office. Googledocs is fine, but I am looking at environments where we don't have net access. Additionally, Read can display PDFs but I was looking for fullscreen presentation mode of evince. Sameer For teachers authoring presentations Google Docs should be fine. Students can and should use Turtle Art, Etoys, View Slides, etc. as they see fit. James Simmons On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:07 AM, iaep-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org wrote: Send IAEP mailing list submissions to There is also the issue of existing materials that are already authored in Powerpoint and need to be imported into a format that's processable by an activity on the XO. Re-doing all such material in yet another format is painful. Maybe something that can take a ppt file and push png of each slide to the Journal for view slides or TA to pick up. Powerpoint itself will export each slide to a jpg or png, but I haven't had much luck with OOo for batch export (it does the export one slide at a time). The other option is to run PDFs full screen like evince. All these approaches take care of display, but still do not address authoring in Sugar. cheers, Sameer ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iae ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Thanks All! RE: [support-gang] Problems Saving in Scratch
Hi All, I tried Brian's simple solution and it works. You retrieve the file by clicking Open and more or less reversing the save process. I will further explore all the other stuff you folks sent, but tonight we are busy packing lunches and charging cameras, etc to get ready for 5-hour Ranger-led hike with the Grandkids in Yellowstone Park tomorrow morning. Thanks to all of you for your kind responses and for taking time on this holiday weekend to answer my question. I really appreciate it. Caryl From: bcjor...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 13:19:46 +0200 To: support-g...@lists.laptop.org CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; test...@lists.laptop.org; walter.ben...@gmail.com; support-g...@laptop.org Subject: Re: [support-gang] [IAEP] Problems Saving in Scratch You can save projects in scratch by putting them in a certain folder. (1) Click save (2) When the save dialog comes up, click the Desktop button on the left. (3) Type the name of your project, and click OK The Desktop shortcut goes to /home/olpc/isolation/1/uid_to_home_dir/1/data, which I guess you can save to from within Scratch. Screenshot of dialog after clicking Desktop (and revealing the path): http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~bjordan/Picture%2038.png Brian On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Ton van Overbeektvoverb...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Caryl Bigenhocbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Walter and All, I tried your suggestion and the Terminal returned(blue but not a link): /home/olpc/Activities/Scratch.activity I went back into Scratch and it still failed to Save. I assumed the l characters were lowercase Ls, after trying upper case Is and getting a command not found. I have not tried 1s. I also assumed the tilde is the one just to the left of the 1 key. Any idea what is happening? Thanks, Caryl Walter meant ls -ld ... (lowercase L, lowercase S, space, minus sign,lowercase L, lowercase D). This should show who is the owner of the /home/olpc/Activities/Scratch.activity directory. If is is the wrong owner, it explains your problems with saving Scratch projects. HTH Ton van Overbeek ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
