Re: [IAEP] [Grassroots-l] OLPC / Sugar community in China?
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 2:04 AM, Bastienbastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: I forgot to mention that I'm currently in Tokyo, Japan, taking a few days off. If any of you knows some LUG around here, or have contacts with a university that I could visit to spread the word about Sugar, just drop me an email, thanks. (I will surely visit some Go club, Nihon Kiin? They have a good school program. Be sure to show them the Playgo Activity. The American Go Association is working with us on improvements to the Playgo software, and we have discussed creating a content bundle. Terry Benson of AGA was just down the hall from me at Yale. A recent newsletter from them lists a large body of free Go content. There is also a free CD. http://www.usgo.org/resources/starterCD.htm there are usually good geek-nests, so maybe I'll stumble on some CS student by chance, who knows...) You could call up the CS department at Todai. There is a fair amount of cross-fertilization between MIT and Japan. Best to all, -- Bastien ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. http://earthtreasury.org/worknet (Edward Mokurai Cherlin) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Looking for very old hardware
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 05:03:33PM +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 02:55:33PM -0700, Caryl Bigenho wrote: I would like very much to be able to put these old 5 1/2 floppies in, boot them up and print out the code so some enterprising Python programmer could convert them for Sugar. I'm not even sure the disks will still work. They are probably 20+ years old. Sorry to be unhelpful, but I doubt those floppies still work. I have thrown away all my 3.5 disks some years ago because they all had errors, and the 5.25 ones long before. Disks usually last about 5 years, maybe 10 if you're lucky (depends on magnetic fields in the vicinity, including the earth magnetic field). If you've got a chance go and try, but I wouldn't recommend spending any money on it. If you choose to try anyway, despite the warnings of the floppies being too old, then this site looks like could be better than ebay: http://www.retrotechnology.com/herbs_stuff/m_parts.html I still have various Mac hardware as old as a PowerBook 1xx with external 3.5 drive, and also have some PC 5.25 but according to some web pages they cannot read Macintosh floppies (as they are not variable speed drives as Apple used back then, berfore the Superdrives). ...also, I live in Denmark and wouldn't recommend sending those old floppies by snail mail... Good luck! - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] modifying sugar tutorial: different paths for SoaS
thanks Tomeu (for the linux pointers too) sadly I cannot complete the sugar modification tutorial I keep getting messages like liveuser is not in the sudoers file and Permission denied for example when I try to make a backup file with cp SoaS is acting more like a live CD when it comes to linux commands Very sad - my students won't be able to hack the system :-( On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 07:47, Bill Kerrbillk...@gmail.com wrote: http://en.flossmanuals.net/Sugar/ModifyingSugar 4. The Home View code is in /usr/share/sugar/shell/view/Home. Type this command and press enter: cd /usr/share/sugar/shell/view/home the paths have changed for SoaS I spent some time looking for favoritesview.py couldn't find it I tried some recursive searches but my grasp of linux command line is limited or perhaps the files have changed name too? can someone tell me where to find favoritesview.py I'm happy to edit the tutorial once I know the changes Hi Bill, the shell sources have been moved from /usr/share/sugar/shell to /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/jarabe. But there have been other file layout changes inside the shell, these commands should help you find stuff: find /usr -iname favoritesview.py find /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/jarabe -iname \*.py grep -R class FavoritesView /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/jarabe Regards, Tomeu thanks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] modifying sugar tutorial: different paths for SoaS
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:55, Bill Kerrbillk...@gmail.com wrote: thanks Tomeu (for the linux pointers too) sadly I cannot complete the sugar modification tutorial I keep getting messages like liveuser is not in the sudoers file and Permission denied for example when I try to make a backup file with cp SoaS is acting more like a live CD when it comes to linux commands Very sad - my students won't be able to hack the system :-( Yeah, Fedora (and I guess other distros) doesn't ship with sudo activated by default :( But you should be able to do the same by using su instead of sudo: su -c 'cp somefile /etc/.' Or su - to get into a root shell. I have heard that latest experimental SoaS images have sudo installed by default, so in the next release sudo will work fine in SoaS as well. Regards, Tomeu On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 07:47, Bill Kerrbillk...@gmail.com wrote: http://en.flossmanuals.net/Sugar/ModifyingSugar 4. The Home View code is in /usr/share/sugar/shell/view/Home. Type this command and press enter: cd /usr/share/sugar/shell/view/home the paths have changed for SoaS I spent some time looking for favoritesview.py couldn't find it I tried some recursive searches but my grasp of linux command line is limited or perhaps the files have changed name too? can someone tell me where to find favoritesview.py I'm happy to edit the tutorial once I know the changes Hi Bill, the shell sources have been moved from /usr/share/sugar/shell to /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/jarabe. But there have been other file layout changes inside the shell, these commands should help you find stuff: find /usr -iname favoritesview.py find /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/jarabe -iname \*.py grep -R class FavoritesView /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/jarabe Regards, Tomeu thanks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Artwork Request for SoaS: Firstboot Theme
Hi everybody, as I've recently mentioned on-list SoaS now ships firstboot, which is a tool to configure some system-related stuff at... well, first boot! ;) So as this is usually quite Fedora-branded and since we aren't able to ship that trademarked logo, it would be great if we could get some Sugar branding here, just like for the boot screen. Basically, we'd need some .png files for that. To see what's exactly needed, you can download the latest snapshot and check the /usr/share/firstboot/themes directory, or you can grab the generic-logos package from here: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=101905 The following three files are concerned: * firstboot-left.png * splash-small.png * workstation.png It would certainly be great to get this done in time for the SoaS v2 Beta Release at the end of August... Cheers, --Sebastian ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Who's interested in testing a new installer for SoaS?
Hi everybody, I'm looking for some volunteers to test the hard disk installation with the latest SoaS snapshot and newly designed installer. Since this upstream project is really in the early stages of development but also concerns a pretty critical part of SoaS, I'd prefer getting some testing before throwing it in a snapshot and possibly breaking stuff. If you're interested and aware of the risk, please drop me a line. Thanks, --Sebastian ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] My videos are on Sugar Labs video site
Yesterday I edited my Get IA Books--Read demo video and posted it on the SugarLabs video site. I also removed the original ReadEtexts:The Movie video and replaced it with a reencoded version. Because of modifications I made to the mencoder.sh script run by Kino I no longer have distorted text on the screen for either video. What was happening before was that Kino's import was converting the 800x600 original to 720x480, which I think is the dimensions used by DVDs. This conversion was OK, but when mencoder resizes it again to 640x480 the text on the screen got distorted. I changed the script to make the output the same size as the original and that fixed everything. I am planning to make a Wiki page on all the stuff I learned while making these videos. I just managed to get Cinelerra installed on Fedora 11. It looks kind of overwhelming. Kino was easier. I tried embedding one of my videos in a web page outside of the Sugar Labs video site to see if that would make it world viewable. It did not, unfortunately. Unless I can figure out how to use Cinelerra to add a music track to these videos I consider them done. I'd like to post them with other Sugar videos. If anyone can suggest how I'd go about doing that I'd be grateful. James Simmons ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [Fwd: Follow-Up on: looking for two groups of volunteers]
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Sebastian Dziallassebast...@when.com wrote: (fwd'ing to SLOBs, keeping IAEP in CC) Walter Bender wrote: We decided on two actions in today's Sugar Oversight Board meeting (See the transcript at http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting.log.20090710_0905.html): (1) form a committee to oversee the board election in August; (2) form a committee to review and make recommendations regarding our trademark policy. Please contact me if you have interest in participating in either committee. thanks. -walter Walter has posted this several weeks ago about founding such a committee, for which I volunteered. So here's the thing. Has SLOBs given this committee the power to make a decision? If it has, I'd like to get confirmation that SLOBs is going to back up the decisions made by this committee. Hey Sebastian, This is normally the type of thing I work on. But, it would be very good good for the project if someone else stood up and did this. Primarily because it eliminates me as a bottle neck for project consensus building. The basic process: SLOBs has very little decision making power over technical or community aspects of the project. They act as the group responsible for financial matters and appoint the Executive Director. The Executive Director has the 'power' to make final decisions in cases of disputes within the project and represents the project to outside organizations. It would be up to the committee or individuals involved to make a plan and then build consensus for that plan. In working through something like this I would start thinking about the end goal and then working backwards. 1. Set a date for the election. The actually date is pretty arbitrary, but expect some bike shedding. 2. Set a election method. This is a solved problem. Many other project have annual votes for decision making bodies. It is just a matter of leverage their experience and processes. Again expect a bit of bike shedding. But, in reality if Sugar Labs has a strong culture of mutual respect (which it does) the key will be to be technically fair. The rest will work out. 3. Set date membership date. The actually date is pretty arbitrary, but expect some bike shedding. 4. Set a membership policy for eligible voters. To implement the plan, I would present the entire plan for consensus on iaep and wait a week or so to let it ferment. If it looked like we achieved consensus, I would announce on iaep that we achieve consensus and start presenting plans, working backwards for 4-1, for each step. The interesting thing about administrative stuff like this that at the time it can seem urgent. But, once a working process is established it sinks into the background never to be thought of again. I will help anyone interested in work on this, but I would rather not do it myself. david ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] eBook reading advice
I know there have been advances in eBook reading in the last few months. I am preparing a master USB to copy for a presentation at World Con. I will be doing a panel with Cory Doctrow who wrote and has realeased CC the book Little Brother. Its up for a Hugo this year and I recommend it to anyone who likes young adult SciFi that promotes open source. I'd like to put a copy of the book on the sticks I will be burning. http://craphound.com/littlebrother/download/ Its available in a wide variety of formats. Which one will work best in Sugar? My master stick currently has Read 67 Read eText 12 Should I upgrade? Which one should I use? Any other very applicable childrens books I should download while I am at it? Thanks! Caroline -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] eBook reading advice
On Aug 8, 2009, at 16:26, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: http://craphound.com/littlebrother/download/ Its available in a wide variety of formats. Which one will work best in Sugar? When it first came out, I converted it into an XOL file for use in Sugar. Not sure if that file is still hosted there, or if it'll work in .84, but that was essentially a packaged version of the HTML copy of his book, viewable in the Library of Browse. -lf ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] SoaS3-20090807 Install instructions to Hard disk and VMplayer Application available for download
Today I worked with sdziallas to install the latest SoaS Snapshot http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/3/ Downloaded this file and ran VMware from the .iso file It booted right up and has been on Network Neighborhood all day. I first tried to run it on a hp Pavillion 1417d (Vista) notebook from the CD the installer had no keyboard or mouse. So it may not work in all situations. We sucessfully installed it to a VMWorkstation 6.52 IDE Hard Disk It MUST be IDE not the Default SCSI 0:0 disk VMware uses Have to make it Custom IDE Persistent or Installer will not see it. HD is 8GB in 2GB slices. It did not have to be this large The installer copied the color and name over to the Hard Drive and even opens the CD tray on shut-down like it still was a CD! this VMPlayer appliance is available fot testing with VMPlayer on sunjammer: http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/ This Copy is for Testing ONLY. == Note: The procedure used should be the same for a HD install: SoaS-3-20090807 VM Appliance extract file and run with VMPlayer *THIS IS FOR TESTING ONLY*** Notes: Method used for this Install to Hard disk: #sugar session 08/08/2009 === In sugar terminal: sdziallas run: * yum install gparted as root * yum install wget * wget http://www.filteredperception.org/downloads/TESTING/zyx-liveinstaller-0.1.9-1.i386.rpm * curl -O http://www.filteredperception.org/downloads/TESTING/zyx-liveinstaller-0.1.9-1.i386.rpm * rpm -Uvh zyx-liveinstaller-0.1.9-1.i386.rpm * zyx-liveinstaller Grapical Installer Starts launch partitoner sdziallas that will start gparted :) satellit ok have 8GB unallocated sdziallas satellit: I'd probably make it: sdziallas * 1 GB ext3 for /boot sdziallas * 4 GB ext3 for / sdziallas * 1 GB swap NEW: (make partition) (All of it) sdziallas yup, that just creates the partition scheme (that's fine), you can create the partitions afterwards satellit Partition #1 ext3 /boot 996.22 MiB/Partition #2 ext3 / 3.91 Gib/Partition #3 linux-swap 996.22 satellit all primary partitions? sdziallas satellit: yup, that's good :) satellit next ? satellit cancel partitioner? (hit X in Right top corner) satellit I see zyx-live installer behind in window sdziallas satellit: you can close gparted and click next in the installer satellit k sdziallas (then you'll just need to select the data and boot partitions and that should be already it) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Who's interested in testing a new installer for SoaS?
I can test in several distros in VirtualBox. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Sebastian Dziallassebast...@when.com wrote: Hi everybody, I'm looking for some volunteers to test the hard disk installation with the latest SoaS snapshot and newly designed installer. Since this upstream project is really in the early stages of development but also concerns a pretty critical part of SoaS, I'd prefer getting some testing before throwing it in a snapshot and possibly breaking stuff. If you're interested and aware of the risk, please drop me a line. Thanks, --Sebastian ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. http://earthtreasury.org/worknet (Edward Mokurai Cherlin) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
