Hi Rubén, Feedback after testing trisquel-sugar_3.0RC_i686 on a recent MacBook Pro:
1). Live CD boots and runs fine on a MacBook Pro (though has no wireless network, or camera support, and screen redraw was a little slow in some activities so I guess no or little use of gfx hardware acceleration). 2). Using the Live CD to install trisquel-sugar to a USB stick (my main test goal). WARNING DATA LOSS: Targeting a USB stick for the install process worked smoothly, but right at the very end I spotted it saying "installing grub to hd0". This renders the primary internal hard disk on a Mac un-bootable. After much experimentation***, the only safe solution was a fresh re-patrition of the drive, and to perform a full restore from a back-up (thank goodness for Apple's Time Machine). *** PRAM resets, Disk Utility volume recovery, re-setting start-up disk, blessing from command line, re-install of OS, couple of other 3rd party recovery tools. If someone is unfortunate enough not to have a recent back-up, I think the disk data may be still recoverable as I did eventually manage to access the original data. If I had more time to faff, I think I could have experimented using the diskutil command line tool. The default install of an Intel Mac HD is a GUID partition scheme, with a small EFI partition, and then the rest of the disk as a bootable HFS+ partition (this looked fine but I didn't want to risk using the data there). FWIW, the visible symptom upon reboot was a grey screen for perhaps 30 sec, eventually a blinking grey folder icon with a question mark – the Mac basically can't find a bootable HD (but will happily boot off other media, say your original OS install DVD). 3). The resulting USB Stick failed to boot on a MacBook (but might work on other hardware, need to test). Regards, --Gary On 1 Oct 2009, at 21:47, Rubén Rodríguez Pérez wrote: >>> I have no illusions about the difficulty of jumpstarting an >>> ecosystem, but since that is necessary to the success of Sugar, we >>> need to make it happen. I have ideas for plans for that too >>> [...other ideas for plans] >> >> That's all great but it boils down to what I said: we can't do it >> now, >> where "we" is Sugar Labs and "it" is: create better distro than >> Fedora-ish and service that distro with distro-vendor-quality support >> and infrastructure. >> >> So I propose we come up with some way to do it (ibid.) to propose to >> SLOB or we get real should say we're not going to do it (for now). >> Either is better than the status quo of not doing it and pretend that >> we are > > I'm still a newbie here, but let me propose an idea. Feel free to > discard it if it's inappropriate. > > In the project Trisquel we've just made our own -still unnamed as a > project- version of a "distro for Sugar", and it has all the features > you were talking about in the last days, including a disk installer, > live cd with persistence, live usb with persistence, live usb > graphical > creator, Sugar style artwork, LTSP support, unattended installation... > Coming soon we will have unattended distributed installation using > pxe. > > We are going to maintain this project no matter if it is used by SL or > not. And as an important feature, Trisquel is fully libre and endorsed > by the FSF. We are open -and looking forward- to collaboration with > SL. > > We don't want to compete with other projects like SoaS -we will not > use > that name either-, in fact I'd like to thank the SoaS authors, as I'm > sure their work made it easier for us to make our version. > > My only intention with this message is for you to know our > alternative. > We are distro hackers -I don't like the "vendors" moniker-, so we have > the skills and resources required, allowing you to focus on the Sugar > development. Now that the initial tasks of our project are done, the > maintenance will be easy. In fact, we will start publishing nightly > builds with the latest Trisquel updates and the latest version of the > Sugar components. We hope it will be a tool for developers and > testers. > > You can find more info here: http://trisquel.info/en/trisquel-sugar > > Rubén > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep