[IAEP] The question of open source, by Rahul De, Indian Institute of Management, Bangalore
http://www.livemint.com/2009/10/29231117/The-question-of-open-source.html Free software embodies the values of learning, sharing and open collaboration that have been the basis of knowledge creation throughout history. In Kerala, hundreds of thousands of children are not only learning with high-quality software but also are indirectly imbibing the values of sharing and openness that the software is built with. In this manner, free software promotes the highest values of human culture: that the hard work put into creating hundreds of millions of lines of software code is not meant entirely for private profit but for the benefit of people around the world. I return to the question I started with: Should we have access to the source code of software that we use? The answer is an unequivocal: yes, we should. Free and open source software represents openness, sharing, and a culture of learning and enquiry. It invites us to understand, build upon, and advance the software tools needed for our community. It presents an infinite potential for innovation and discovery, and a challenge to our youth to stand on the shoulders of giants to build software and tools for the future. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] voip.sugarlabs.org
Potentially, this could be particularly interesting for press briefings. Effective PR involves inviting a small group of journalists to briefings, usually just prior to launches, or to put out PR fires. When the group is small, listen/talk can be open to everyone. For larger groups, it's listen-only and a moderator handles a question queue, opening talk to key questioners in turn. There are of course lots of commercial services for this type of thing, but it would be great if we had that available to us. Sean On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:16 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Thu, 29-10-2009 a las 15:58 -0700, Sameer Verma escribió: Hi Bernie, What's the purpose of this VoIP box? Primarily conferencing. In the future, we might want to use it for end-user technical support and things like that. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] FW: [support-gang] OS Internet Books for High School
2009/10/29 Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com: Hi Again, OK, Now I notice they have books for younger children as well, including Algebra I (which CA did not require or review). It looks pretty good on my Mac. It can be read without downloading, but requires Flash. There is a PDF version that can be downloaded and used off line. That makes sense for the XO. Which Activity would be best to download to do this? It looks like Read might be best since it will read PDF files, but will it read multi-page documents like a book? Should I try something else? I could just experiment around, but that would be re-inventing the wheel if someone knows the answer. Read should be fine for that, but please try with a recent version of it. Regards, Tomeu Thanks, Caryl From: cbige...@hotmail.com To: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; support-g...@laptop.org Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:40:04 -0700 Subject: [support-gang] OS Internet Books for High School Hi All, While we have been worrying about free textbooks on the internet for younger children, the 1000 pound gorilla in the high school text book room, California, has made it really start to happen for older students. Here is an excerpt from Chris Bigenho's blog that has some interesting links (yes, we are related). XOs as book readers are entirely appropriate for grades 9-12. Are they compatible with these books?... don't know yet. I haven't had time to try it out. Caryl __ CK-12 Foundation- (Open Source Publishing) The CK-12 Foundation is a not-profit organization that is working to reduce the cost of text books through the use of Open content and web collaboration. This is just one more step toward the new publishing model that textbook companies need to fear and fear it they do. http://about.ck12.org/ CLRN This is an interesting follow-up of the post above. This is the California Learning Resource Network where they had a Free digital textbook initiative with review and results. Here you can see the entire report or look at the summary findings. Notice how many open content books made the list in competition with the big publishers. Yes, publishers need to look at the future as written on these pages. http://www.clrn.org/fdti/ From Chris Bigenho's blog at: http://bigenhoc.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/diigo-university-day-1/#comments ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] The question of open source, by Rahul De, Indian Institute of Management, Bangalore
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 07:56, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.livemint.com/2009/10/29231117/The-question-of-open-source.html That sounds very aligned with our goals. Would make sense some kind of FOSS Education Alliance to pool resources? Or maybe something like that already exists? Regards, Tomeu Free software embodies the values of learning, sharing and open collaboration that have been the basis of knowledge creation throughout history. In Kerala, hundreds of thousands of children are not only learning with high-quality software but also are indirectly imbibing the values of sharing and openness that the software is built with. In this manner, free software promotes the highest values of human culture: that the hard work put into creating hundreds of millions of lines of software code is not meant entirely for private profit but for the benefit of people around the world. I return to the question I started with: Should we have access to the source code of software that we use? The answer is an unequivocal: yes, we should. Free and open source software represents openness, sharing, and a culture of learning and enquiry. It invites us to understand, build upon, and advance the software tools needed for our community. It presents an infinite potential for innovation and discovery, and a challenge to our youth to stand on the shoulders of giants to build software and tools for the future. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] next SLOBs meeting reminder/agenda: 2009-10-30
It's important to have a mechanism for overruling anyone who might wish to be obstructionist... or simply totally absent. None in the present company of course :-) but longer term to conserve decision-making ability we need a safety valve to escape paralysis if for any reason an OB member always votes against consensus, or is unwilling or unable to exercise the function. For this second case, naturally, the devil is in the details concerning how to determine when a member is considered no longer available. Lack of meeting participation plus responses to formal votes within a time limit could be the way to deal with that. Of course, taking into account communicated absences... I'm thinking of my move + summer vacation which had me out of circulation for awhile. thanks Sean On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 23:46, Mel Chua m...@melchua.com wrote: [snip] * We need a good laying-out of options on http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Requesting_a_SLOBs_decision. I'll call for help on Planet and the mailing lists again shortly. Have summarized the main points about decision-making in the wiki: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Requesting_a_SLOBs_decision#How_a_SLOBs_decision_is_made How a SLOBs decision is made Once the board has agreed on making a decision on a particular issue, we need to define how such decision will be made. Some questions that would matter: * should all decisions require the same level of agreement? Maybe changing the rules require a stronger agreement such as unanimity or a greater quorum? * voting medium: IRC, email, something else? If an async medium such as email is chosen, which is the time limit for voting? Some decisions will be urgent. * voting system, some options, 1: unanimous consensus needed, 2: unanimous nondissent needed (either consensus or abstain), 3: majority needed, no dissent (at least 4 yea, no nay), 4: simple voting (more yeas than nays). Please chime in here or add to the wiki if there's anything relevant missing. Thanks, Tomeu -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ SLOBs mailing list sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] voip.sugarlabs.org
Surely it would make more sense to take it down a level and use telepathy as the comms insftracture and from there use SIP where needed, but also chat, MUC, dbus-dbus tubes, video and audio group streaming and everything else xmpp is so good at. A communications box if you will, with it being kinda like the master with the jabber server installed on it? food for thought? On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Potentially, this could be particularly interesting for press briefings. Effective PR structure, involves inviting a small group of journalists to briefings, usually just prior to launches, or to put out PR fires. When the group is small, listen/talk can be open to everyone. For larger groups, it's listen-only and a moderator handles a question queue, opening talk to key questioners in turn. There are of course lots of commercial services for this type of thing, but it would be great if we had that available to us. Sean On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:16 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Thu, 29-10-2009 a las 15:58 -0700, Sameer Verma escribió: Hi Bernie, What's the purpose of this VoIP box? Primarily conferencing. In the future, we might want to use it for end-user technical support and things like that. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Samuel Goldwyn - I'm willing to admit that I may not always be right, but I am never wrong. - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/samuel_goldwyn.html ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] interesting cooperation between rwanda and uruguay
A cooperation between Peru and Lapland is brewing as well :) -walter On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: http://allafrica.com/stories/200910300100.html It is easy getting computers but connecting them isn't. so we are in negotiations on how we can connect rural areas and we are dealing with the same company that did the same project in Uruguay, so they are experienced, he explained Regards, Tomeu -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OS Internet Books for High School
Caryl, The textbooks I saw on the site were all PDF's with few illustrations, so they should work just fine in the Read Activity, even on the XO. James Simmons Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:40:04 -0700 From: Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com Subject: [IAEP] OS Internet Books for High School To: IAEP SugarLabs iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, support-g...@laptop.org Message-ID: snt118-w64ac59e70a9b6be9a4da44cc...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi All, While we have been worrying about free textbooks on the internet for younger children, the 1000 pound gorilla in the high school text book room, California, has made it really start to happen for older students. Here is an excerpt from Chris Bigenho's blog that has some interesting links (yes, we are related). XOs as book readers are entirely appropriate for grades 9-12. Are they compatible with these books?... don't know yet. I haven't had time to try it out. Caryl __ CK-12 Foundation- (Open Source Publishing) The CK-12 Foundation is a not-profit organization that is working to reduce the cost of text books through the use of Open content and web collaboration. This is just one more step toward the new publishing model that textbook companies need to fear and fear it they do. http://about.ck12.org/ CLRN This is an interesting follow-up of the post above. This is the California Learning Resource Network where they had a Free digital textbook initiative with review and results. Here you can see the entire report or look at the summary findings. Notice how many open content books made the list in competition with the big publishers. Yes, publishers need to look at the future as written on these pages. http://www.clrn.org/fdti/ From Chris Bigenho's blog at: http://bigenhoc.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/diigo-university-day-1/#comments ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Beam Me Up Scotty, file sharing activity idear
So I'm reminded of my first handheld computer, and beaming between friends, my contact information, like a business card, and sharing applications/ activities by beaming them to someone in the proximity by IR. So fast forward to the WiFi age, and several friends within a classroom or after school program/ activity, or passing notes in class ;-/ Not everyone in the proximity is the intended audience for the note or information so some security might be in order (lest the teach get the note), just as not every acquaintance is a friend, but given more and more contact (connection counts?) and less arguing leading to ombuds/ sent to the principal's office, or whatever. Also to beam to mother ship OLPC/SugarLabs/ Donors/ Remote Family/ Global Village to put on the Refrigerator art work and other creations by kids. I realize not all cultures focus around the refrigerator (nor that all cultures center their home life around the metal box that eats electricity, makes noise, leaks freon, etc) but by analogy here... Sending things up Beam Me Up Scotty (little green machine, I have had red hair, on the playground, so cut me a little slack ;-/ ) to a public gallery space of kids creations with the XOs or about the XOs/ Sugar Software and Activites for the community and kids to be proud of their creations, kind of grandparent like, but hopefully you get the idear Just an idear. Not a software program, nor even a design doc, but baby steps and floating it to the community while you are probably off on other issues... -- DancesWithCars leave the wolves behind ;-) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] voip.sugarlabs.org
[cc += daf] El Fri, 30-10-2009 a las 14:46 +0100, David Van Assche escribió: Surely it would make more sense to take it down a level and use telepathy as the comms insftracture and from there use SIP where needed, but also chat, MUC, dbus-dbus tubes, video and audio group streaming and everything else xmpp is so good at. A communications box if you will, with it being kinda like the master with the jabber server installed on it? food for thought? The telepathy stack uses SIP for VOIP anyway. Even though SIP is a peer-to-peer technology, you need a PBX such as Asterisk in the middle if you're going to do conferencing. Daf, one of the Collabora devs, told me last week that they're working on P2P SIP conferencing. Probably an implementation of Jingle? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingle_%28protocol%29 Multi-user chat without any infrastructure would be amazing, but I doubt it can be made scale beyond a small number of nodes. And I doubt we can find mature clients at this time. For now, I'd suggest setting up a traditional Asterisk PBX and switch to XMPP/Jingle when things mature a little. Daf of course might come up with a better idea. BTW: did you know that every Sunjammer account also includes a Jabber account too? the JID is usern...@sugarlabs.org and the password is the same of the LDAP password. SSL/TLS is mandatory. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] NOW: Contributors Program Mtg! (Fri 2PM Boston time, #olpc-meeting)
Please join us NOW reviewing the latest OLPC/Sugar community projects over IRC Live Chat: (2PM EDT Boston Time Today/Friday) http://forum.laptop.org/chat Then type at bottom: /join #olpc-meeting AGENDA: * New projects libraries -- teaching them Community Outreach: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Laptop_Lending_Libraries * Which projects might you enjoy Mentoring below?! http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects http://rt.laptop.org/Search/Results.html?Query=Queue=%27contributors%27 * Fast Review of the 2 latest (greatest!) HW/Project Proposals -- please join us advocating for, and/or reviewing shortcomings of these proposals: 1. Deploy Laptops to Mafi Dove, Ghana in early January 2010 - Ghana Massachusetts, USA http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=49565 http://www.cs.umass.edu/~moss/ghana/ [NEEDS A LINK FROM http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ] Requests 4 XOs over 2-4 months Project Objectives: 1) Make computers available to middle school, and eventually primary school, students in Mafi Dove, Ghana. Develop sustainable teacher training and support plan. Assist in integrating computers into the school’s education plan. Initial deployment would outfit a “lab” with around 10 laptops and provide laptops to relevant teachers, with a few backup units in case of failure. Depending on your recommendation, we could also outfit a classroom in addition to the “lab”; this would require an additional 20 units. 2) Determine next steps when we visit, namely how and when to expand to all students in Mafi Dove (would involve perhaps 200 units)? How to provide training and tech support on an ongoing basis? What are the indigenous resources in Ghana? What can we do versus what needs to be done by OLPC or other agencies? How and when should we provide Internet access (this first visit will not attempt that)? 3) Get a sense of how this could eventually expand to more villages in the area, and involve students from UMass as an ongoing service-learning course. Note: We 5 are leaders of a small Episcopal church in Ashfield, MA (except Nell, who is Susan’s daughter and our person very experienced with the village and area). This is not an evangelism project, but strictly mission/service to the children and families of this rural village 2. SocialCalc, Newspaper activity, Deducto, Video Chat Activity, Itunes for e-books - New Delhi, India http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=49596 http://seeta.in/j/archives.html http://blog.laptop.org [SPECIFIC SITE(S) NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ] Requests 3 XO-1.5'ss over 6.5 months Project Objectives: 1. SocialCalc, the community spreadsheet - http://seeta.in/j/products-and-services/socialcalc-on-sugar.html and http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4084 2. Newspaper activity for the future journalists - We are undertaking this project with OLPC Corps Indiana University, who did a pilot this summer in South Africa (http://seeta.in/j/products-and-services/37.html), and are helping us gather ideas and scenarios on the pedagogical front at this juncture. 3. Deducto, activity to improve deducing logic skills - http://seeta.in/j/products-and-services/deducto.html and http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4220 4. Color Deducto, activity to teach color schemes, systems and patterns through pattern recognition - http://seeta.in/j/products-and-services/color-deducto.html and http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4221 5. Video Chat Activity - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Video_Chat (Video Chat does not work on Sugar 0.84. I have hired 2 developers, who would be working on this project starting next week). 6. Itunes for e-books - We are working on this project with Kovid Goyal - http://www.seeta.in/wiki/index.php?title=ITunes_for_EBooks http://seeta.in/wiki/index.php?title=SocialCalc_on_Sugar http://seeta.in/wiki/index.php?title=Deducto http://seeta.in/wiki/index.php?title=Color_Deducto http://seeta.in/wiki/index.php?title=ITunes_for_EBooks http://seeta.in/j/products-and-services/37.html ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Fwd: [Sig-bwp] Audio / Mobile Technologies for Children Allison Druin
From a different library list. For those who don't know her, Allison Druin among other things runs a children's testing lab where various sorts of products and interfaces are tested by children (in Maryland and in 1 or 2 sister institutions around the globe). If you like this talk, she also wrote _The Design of Children's Technology_. -- Forwarded message -- From: gerrymck gerry.mckier...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:49 PM Subject: [Sig-bwp] Audio / Mobile Technologies for Children Allison Druin / Iowa State University / October 9 2009 To: asi...@asis.org, sig-...@mail.asis.org, isen-ast...@community.lsoft.com Colleagues/ The Audio Is Now Available For This Most Informative Presentation I Had The Opportunity To Attend. /Gerry Women in HCI Lecture / Allison Druin / University of Maryland / October 9, 2009 / Noon / Howe Hall / Alliant Energy-Lee Liu Auditorium / Iowa State University Abstract For many children (ages 2-12) in the United States, mobile technologies are now an integral part of their everyday living and play experiences. They commonly use mobile phones, netbooks, pen-based computing, GPSs, computer-enhanced toys and much more. But this is not the case for all children. There are still young people who live in places where mobile technologies are just becoming affordable. Others live in areas where there is no cell phone service at all. And still other children live in places where basic living necessities outweigh the need for electronic technologies. There are extreme differences in children’s opportunities and challenges for learning with new technologies. Therefore, in my talk I will discuss how to approach designing for these diverse children. This talk is not about how to make mobile technologies. It is about how to make BETTER mobile technologies for the world’s children. I will demonstrate some of our newest work at the Human-Computer Interaction Lab in mobile collaboration and intergenerational mobile storytelling. I will also suggest how these new mobile technologies call for new approaches to design. Speaker Allison Druin is the Director of the Human-Computer Interaction Lab (HCIL) and an Associate Professor in the University of Maryland’s College of Information Studies and Institute for Advanced Computer Studies. Her work includes: developing digital libraries for children; designing technologies for families; and creating collaborative storytelling technologies for the classroom. Druin’s most active research is the International Children’s Digital Library (ICDL) [ http://mobile-libraries.blogspot.com/2009/08/international-childrens-digital-library.html ] now the largest digital library in the world for children which she and colleagues expanded to a non-profit foundation. She is the author or editor of four books, and her most recent book was published Spring 2009: Mobile Technology for Children (Morgan Kaufmann, 2009). [ http://mobile-libraries.blogspot.com/2009/07/mobile-technology-for-children.html ] She received her Ph.D. in 1997 from the University of New Mexico, her M.S. in 1987 from the MIT Media Lab, and a B.F.A. in 1985 from Rhode Island School of Design. Sponsored By Women in Human Computer Interaction Series, Women in STEM Speaker Series, and Committee on Lectures (funded by GSB). Link To Audio Available At [ http://tinyurl.com/ykcvmbn ] Enjoy ! /Gerry Gerry McKiernan Associate Professor Science and Technology Librarian Iowa State University Library Ames IA 50011 gerry...@iastate.edu There Is No Answer, Only Solutions / Olde Irish Saying The Future Is Already Here, It's Just Not Evenly Distributed Attributed To William Gibson, SciFi Author / Coined 'Cyberspace ___ Sig-bwp mailing list sig-...@mail.asis.org http://mail.asis.org/mailman/listinfo/sig-bwp ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Confusing Musings re: versions, updating downloading. Please Advise!
Hi Folks, In an effort to make sure the CUELA XO library machines are all ready to go with neat things on them for the Tech Fair November 14, I am playing with adding some more programs to the XOs. * A question... can extra programs be downloaded to a usb key and used on the XO to save XO memory space? If so, can the download be done on a MacBook? * Another really big question: Is SoaS ready for big time? I would love to show it as part of my hands-on presentation but, so far, all I have been able to do is run an older version in a Virtual Box on my MacBook. Novel, but not very Earth shaking. If you want me to just tell them that SoaS is coming down the pike and to wait for an announcement soon, fine. But it would be great to have more than that to offer. * I tried several times today to download the Read Activity, Version 76, Updated on October 8, 2009. I do have an older version (56?) that came with the 802 update and has probably been updated. Since it was suggested I have a recent version before trying the ebooks, I did want the most recent that will work with .82. I got the Failed to ConnectThe connection was refused when attempting to contact download.sugarlabs.org etc... * Now I realize it will not work with .82. I have to have .86. Can I run that on the XO-1? Is there an easy way to update it? If not, what is the most up-to-date version of Read that I can run with 802 (.82)? * I would like all of the machines at the hands-on session to be running the same software build. I will be reflashing about 20 machines next week. I would like to be able to do all of this from usb stick with minimal updating from what I install. If there is a newer version than 802 (.82), can you send a link that I can use in place of those in the No-Fail Update? (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/No-fail_update) I thought I would try and see if I could download a different program, so I am downloading FoodForce II which should work with .82. So far it seems to be working. Thanks Folks! Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] 'apt-get install sugar-platform' available for Ubuntu9.10.
There seems to be something missing in the repository, or perhaps something else is wrong. python-sugar-toolkit-0.86: Depends: python-sugar-0.86 but it is not installable Recommends: sugar-0.86 but it is not installable Recommends: python-carquinyol-0.86 but it is not installable Recommends: sugar-presence-service-0.86 but it is not installable Recommends: python-jarabe-0.86 but it is not installable This is named -0.86, but the version listed is 0.85. Leaving that out, and installing the rest, Errors were encountered while processing: sugar-platform E: /var/cache/apt/archives/olpcsound_1%3a5.10.90-1~ppa2_amd64.deb: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/libcsnd.so.5.2', which is also in package libcsnd5.2 1 This is a broken dependency sugar-platform--olpcsound--libcsnd5.2 Then when I try sugar-emulator, Xephyr starts, but not Sugar. sugar-emulator [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list! [config/dbus] couldn't take over org.x.config: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied (Connection :1.79 is not allowed to own the service org.x.config.display101 due to security policies in the configuration file) unrecognised device identifier! (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (2) unrecognised device identifier! (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (2) unrecognised device identifier! (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (2) unrecognised device identifier! (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (2) unrecognised device identifier! (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (2) unrecognised device identifier! (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (2) unrecognised device identifier! (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (2) unrecognised device identifier! (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (2) [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list! (EE) XKB: No components provided for device Virtual core keyboard [config/dbus] couldn't take over org.x.config: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied (Connection :1.79 is not allowed to own the service org.x.config.display101 due to security policies in the configuration file) unrecognised device identifier! (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (2) unrecognised device identifier! (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (2) unrecognised device identifier! (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (2) unrecognised device identifier! (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (2) unrecognised device identifier! (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (2) unrecognised device identifier! (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (2) unrecognised device identifier! (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (2) unrecognised device identifier! (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (2) Warning: unknown distro version, automatic fallback to unstable. ERROR: Dependencies information is missing (unknown distribution/version). So, is this actually a security issue? On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 18:02, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: After a couple of weeks of reading tutorials, help from Aleksey, and some Ubuntu developers there are Sugar packages available for Ubuntu 9.10. For now, these packages are available on the Ubuntu-Sugarteam PPA (personal package archive) at https://launchpad.net/~sugarteam/+archive/0.86 . To use these packages, just add 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/sugarteam/0.86/ubuntu karmic main' to the 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/sugarteam/0.86/ubuntu karmic main' end of /etc/apt/sources.list Ubuntu-Sugarteam ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Haiti OLPC pre-pilot evaluation report
Hi all, Forgive me if this has been circulated, but I've not seen it before. Thought some of you might also be keen to read this. OLPC Haiti Pre-Pilot Evaluation Report http://idbdocs.iadb.org/wsdocs/getdocument.aspx?docnum=2062678 Key points from the executive summary: - tracked approx 2,340 hours of daily student usage of the XO laptop - 1:2 computing doesn't work as well as 1:1 - 4 of the 17 available activities are used 88% of the time - kids fear taking home the XO in case they're robbed - teachers need training and ongoing support to transition effectively from teacher centred to student centred learning. Those of you who saw my Open Road presentation will remember I was keen to hear about this pilot... as Haiti was hit by devastating succession of cyclones not long after the machines were deployed. For those who don't have time to download and read the whole document, I have edited the executive summary below. Note: It doesn't include any of the methodology or specifics - get the full report if you want detail. Hope someone finds this useful :) - Executive Summary The Haitian Ministry of Education and Vocational Training (MENFP) introduced 1:1 constructivist computing in the Haitian primary school system. Initial implementation was a pre-pilot project conducted in collaboration with the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB). The purpose of the pre-pilot was to ascertain effective teacher preparation by identifying successful training methods and important content to be addressed during teacher training sessions. The OLPC pre-pilot project was implemented at the Ecole Nationale Republique du Chili (ENRC), an all-female public school located in Port-au-Prince. The evaluation tracked approximately 2,340 hours of daily student usage of the XO laptop, not including home usage. Perceived improvement in student reading and writing in Haitian Creole and French, as well as a general perception of the XO laptop as a symbol of opportunity and progress. Problems with one-to-two computing resulting from unequal sharing of the XO laptop. Students who are more knowledgeable about the XO laptop or have more advanced academic skills tend to dominate the use of the XO laptop, depriving students most in need the opportunity for academic improvement if the partner dominates the XO laptop. Student attention span per XO Camp session declines in proportion to battery life and availability of electrical outlets. Four of the 17 activities available on the XO laptop (Record, Write, Browse Internet, and Paint) represented 88 percent of laptop usage for the XO Camp participants. Moreover, student exploratory usage of the XO declined under the following circumstances: (1) When XO laptop activities were formally introduced as part of a teacher’s lesson plan, (2) when interest in organized group activity increased, and (3) when student focus level was high. This was especially evident during Week 2 of the evaluation, when the fifth-grade class drastically reduced usage of the Paint and Record programs after being formally introduced to the Internet and receiving an essay-writing assignment. Greater teacher engagement decreases student distraction. Participants reported an increased need for help in learning to use the XO and transitioning from teacher-centered to student-centered learning. In-depth technical and pedagogical training session prior to the implementation of the OLPC pilot is needed, as well as continued support over the course of the project. Majority of respondants spoke of the benefits of allowing students to take the XO laptops home. But more than half the students were afraid to take the XO laptop home because they might be robbed. OLPC pre-pilot evaluation report (Haiti) by Emma Näslund-Hadley[et al.] Inter-American Development Bank Education Division - SCL Working Paper #2 Download the OLPC Haiti Pre-Pilot Evaluation Report here: http://idbdocs.iadb.org/wsdocs/getdocument.aspx?docnum=2062678 -- Donna Benjamin - Executive Director Creative Contingencies - http://cc.com.au ph +61 3 9326 9985 - mob +61 418 310 414 open source - facilitation - web services ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] The question of open source, by Rahul De, Indian Institute of Management, Bangalore
On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 08:56 +0100, Sean DALY wrote: http://www.livemint.com/2009/10/29231117/The-question-of-open-source.html Lovely! Thank you for sharing this. It's succinct, well written, and 100% correct. +1 for Rahul De -- Donna Benjamin - Executive Director Creative Contingencies - http://cc.com.au ph +61 3 9326 9985 - mob +61 418 310 414 open source - facilitation - web services ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] The question of open source, by Rahul De, Indian Institute of Management, Bangalore
http://www.livemint.com/2009/10/29231117/The-question-of-open-source.html But the more important aspect of open source software is the fact that it is “free”. This freedom follows from the nature of the licence (called the GNU general public licence, or GPL) that open source software is typically distributed with... Open Source and Free Software are very different things: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Confusing Musings re: versions, updating downloading. Please Advise!
Hi Thanks James for the information. Of course I have more comments and questions! See below. Caryl Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:34:23 +1100 From: qu...@laptop.org To: support-g...@lists.laptop.org CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; support-g...@laptop.org Subject: Re: [support-gang] Confusing Musings re: versions, updating downloading. Please Advise! On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 02:59:06PM -0700, Caryl Bigenho wrote: * A question... can extra programs be downloaded to a usb key and used on the XO to save XO memory space? If you mean the XO RAM memory (the temporary storage lost on reboot), no. A swap partition on an SD card might assist but so will closing activities before starting new ones. If you mean the XO NAND flash memory (the permanent storage kept on reboot), possibly ... but I think it requires a bit of fiddling at the time to remove high cost activities in order to make room to load them. I mean the XO NAND memory. I want to be able to load several extra Activities. Maybe the best solution is to remove the ones they probably won't be using. Still it would be nice to be able to make a custom USB for reflashing. I understand this has been done for some deployments. Are there some easy instructions for making one? Are you really short of memory? If so, which memory? Not yet... just thinking ahead. If so, can the download be done on a MacBook? Yes, provided the USB key is formatted with the conventional FAT filesystem. Mac OS X can reformat a device with a Mac specific filesystem and that would not be approprate. Yes I have successfully done this with the entire 802, but would like to make a customized key. * I would like all of the machines at the hands-on session to be running the same software build. I will be reflashing about 20 machines next week. I would like to be able to do all of this from usb stick with minimal updating from what I install. [...] Reflashing 20 machines should take you no more than about 15 minutes ... Yes, I have done this several times. In fact, I co-wrote the No-Fail Update on the OLPC wiki. it takes one USB stick, the few minute delay as one unit is reflashed from the USB stick, then restart that machine only into OpenFirmware and use the NANDblasting feature to reflash the other 19 in only a few minutes. Reference: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Multicast_NAND_FLASH_Update I strongly suggest you try this method if you haven't already, as it has considerable efficiencies. It is also quite a lot of fun. This does look like a lot of fun! I'm not sure if I understand though. Can this be done just using the mesh or is a school server necessary? The instructions say the sending machine has to be unsecure. By this, do you mean with a developer key? Only one of my RoadShow machines has one. At least it did. Does it persist when the machine is reflashed? I haven't used it (the key) in a very long time. If you need to add activities then take note of the special trick of clearing the identity from Terminal before using an XO as the transmitter. That Wiki page has more detail. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
