Re: [IAEP] Gravity for Beginners...

2010-03-21 Thread Jeff Elkner
Thanks!  I'll let you know how it goes.

On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote:
 You can do the overlays in Etoys by using its paint tool to paint out (using
 transparent paint) the middle of the frames so the others will show through.

 Also take a look at http://www.vpri.org/pdf/rn2005001_learning.pdf which
 shows this, and another way to do the measuring by putting frames side by
 side and using the height of translucent rectangles to do the measuring.

 There are several key techniques here to keep in mind, even with high school
 students. One is the 7 + or - 2 principle of not trying to jam too many
 ideas at once into the

 For the 5th graders we did fun and games with speed and acceleration several
 months before dropping objects off the roof of the school. The kids used the
 translucent rectangles here to get some visual memories of these ideas.
 (Both Newton and Einstein like to do math first -- to provide concepts and
 vocabulary -- before looking at the physical world.

 The translucent rectangles also help a lot with measuring errors (and the
 fact that you only have pixels, and there is some motion blur in the
 videos).

 What you want is for the differences that are clearly shown when the
 translucent rectangles are overlaid should look to be of constant size
 (pretty nearly as Newton would say). This gives rise to the hypothesis of
 constant acceleration, which is then tested by making a simulation with
 constant acceleration and finding some way to see if the video and the
 simulation match up. The 10 year olds found some good ways to do this.

 If the kids could really measure accurately, they would find that the
 acceleration is not actually constant, but differs by about one part in a
 million from 14 feet above the ground and at the ground level (due the more
 accurate inverse square Newton Law).

 Please don't hesitate to ask questions.

 Cheers,

 Alan

 
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 Subject: Re: [IAEP] Gravity for Beginners...

 kino will let you export your movie as a series of stills... I am sure
 there are many Free multimedia programs with a similar capability.

 regards.

 -walter

 On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Jeff Elkner j...@elkner.net wrote:
 Hi All,

 I'm working on a derivative version of Gravity for 10 Year Olds to
 use with my high school age students, which I'm calling Gravity for
 Beginners:


 https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0ARq50A7-FeDXZGd2MnN0ODJfMjAwNmc0NHF4ZHIhl=en

 Day 2 has the following:

 Show the students how to overlay frames from their videos to get this
 effect:

 Can anyone point me to easy instructions on how to do this?  I can't
 really use the lesson without it.

 Thanks!

 jeff elkner
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Re: [IAEP] SoaS change of direction: heads-up on convos in other lists

2010-03-21 Thread Sean DALY
I'm sorry Caryl, I'm the moderator of the marketing list, but I
haven't been able to access the admin page for a few weeks due to a
technical problem so I can't pass messages through.

I've communicated with Bernie (systems list) about this issue.

Sean


On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hi...

 Some of us are blocked from posting on the Marketing List, I think that is
 how it got divided.

 Luke has some great ideas here...

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 On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 13:40, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  OK. Let's focus a bit here.  In the spirit of IAEP, I wonder who this
  version of SoaS will be for... educators and students or developers?  It
  seems like the discussion is favoring the latter.  That would be a big
  disappointment to those of us who are waiting to have a good stable version
  to share with the education community.

 Sounds to me like it's for deployers, people looking to make derivatives
 of SoaS. As Silbe said, there are tools for building new images with more
 activities.

 On the other hand, it would be useful to have an all inclusive version
 of SoaS for instant-on usage of the system. Or, better, to have it be
 incredibly easy to download from ASLO activities that have been tested and
 QAd, and to have these activities widely promoted on the page.

 Yes! this would be wonderful! Could it be done before April 24? (I can dream
 can't I?).

 Caryl

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[IAEP] is Soas safe?

2010-03-21 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
My apologies for this silly, silly question.

I am concerned of the risk of malware infection in shared machines.

I guess that harddrive-less units are totally OK, but what happens in 
normal, hard-drive based machines if somehow a stick gets infected? when 
booting from a USB stick, is it like when booting from a CD or for those 
old enough to remember, like booting from a floppy? 

I mean, that was THE way to get infected before Word macros started 
being the star, since such infection basically bypass all anti-malware 
protection, except when set at the BIOS level, and how many people knew 
about it in my younger days?

How can we ensure this is not an issue made worse by Soas users?
Opinions and knowledge, anyone?

Thanks!

Yama
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Re: [IAEP] is Soas safe?

2010-03-21 Thread Luke Faraone

[please drop iaep in followup emails, this is a technical discussion]

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 19:31, Yamandu Ploskonka yamap...@gmail.com wrote:

I guess that harddrive-less units are totally OK, but what happens in
normal, hard-drive based machines if somehow a stick gets infected? when
booting from a USB stick, is it like when booting from a CD or for those
old enough to remember, like booting from a floppy?

I mean, that was THE way to get infected before Word macros started
being the star, since such infection basically bypass all anti-malware
protection, except when set at the BIOS level, and how many people knew
about it in my younger days?

How can we ensure this is not an issue made worse by Soas users?
Opinions and knowledge, anyone?


The operating system running on the SoaS stick has unrestricted access to the computer. It can mount internal disks, repartition, etc; anything one could do if you were root on the running computer. 

So far, the only security vulnerability experienced in conjunction with USB sticks has been Windows viruses. Since the SoaS stick does not contain WINE, it cannot run any Windows executables, and unless a virus is specially crafted to work on Linux and handle the specific way that LiveUSB sticks are constructed, it is unlikely to pose any threat. 


There is no way to mitigate this threat other than to verify the integrity of a 
SoaS stick from a trusted (ideally sole-role) computer designed for that 
purpose, or have the BIOS check the kernel signature (a la the XO), and have 
the kernel verify the userland. This is overkill for 99% of situations.

In summary: There are much more probable threats to be worried about, and as of today, SoaS does not have the level of popularity where one would have to consider such solutions. 


If we want to protect against rouge activities, there are existing technologies 
that can easily be put into place with a configuration change (`touch 
/etc/olpc-security`) and some testing. This is a good thing to work on 
short-term in my opinion.

Thanks,

Luke Faraone
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