[IAEP] Argentina List

2010-03-25 Thread Caryl Bigenho

Hi Folks,

Some interesting stuff is going on on the Argentina mailing list. If you read 
EspaƱol or can tolerate Google translate, you might want to "listen in."  If 
you don't want to sign up, you can read the Archives.  Sign up or read 
theArchives here:

http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/argentina

Caryl (aka Carolina)
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[IAEP] Squeakfest 2010 - Save the Date!

2010-03-25 Thread Rita Freudenberg
Greetings,

we are happy to announce that University of North Carolina Wilmington will be 
the host for this year's  
Squeakfest! We invite you all to a face to face gathering, sharing of  
experiences and materials relative to the usage of Etoys. We will have  
two great keynote speakers this year: Walter Bender from Sugar Labs  
and Julian Lombardi from Duke University.

Squeakfest USA
July 26, 27 and 28th
Wilmington, NC
University of Wilmington

We'll have more info on the Squeakfest website shortly, but until  
then, please save the date! Please forward this email and share with  
friends and colleagues. This will be a
gathering of users and practitioners of Etoys -- teachers,  
researchers, and developers to share and learn. Newcomers to Etoys are  
most welcome too!


We hope to see you in Wilmington in July!
More to come...
Rita
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Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] SoaS change of direction: heads-up on convos in other lists

2010-03-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Peter Robinson  wrote:
> So what do you see that we are missing to be able to do that?

I'll assume you're referring to "burning" the usb disk. I agree with
you -- it's hard to point at any single thing that would make it
significantly easier ("no silver bullet"), and the easiest is to ship
USB disks with SoaS on them (and a few people seem to be doing that).

In any case, I'm not a user of the GUI iso-to-bootable-usb tools...
someone closer to that user profile can probably help with hints as to
pitfalls and gaps...

cheers,


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Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] SoaS change of direction: heads-up on convos in other lists

2010-03-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Martin Langhoff
 wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Martin Langhoff
>  wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Walter Bender  
>> wrote:
>>> the real intention is
>>> "this is where you start"
>>
>> But... what's the target user for a "this is where you start"? Someone
>> who can make their own spin... there's only very few of those target
>> users, and they can help themselves (IOWs if there isn't a SoaS,
>> they'll yum install sugar-*, set gdm to autologin and they'll be ok).
>> Not many of those users are close to a school.
>
> Sebastian, SoaS'ers,
>
> I am aware that here everyone-but-the-ones-that-build-it are talking
> about SoaS. Personally, I am thankful for the work you do... I have
> also been using SoaS recently as a "starting point" for a SoaS
> matching OLPC builds and that was tremendously useful. Thanks!
>
> I'd reword what I wrote earlier to say: there is a huge need for
> something like SoaS that focusses mainly on being in the hands of
> teachers (and may be useful for testers and developers like me). From
> the outside, it seems there's nobody in better position to do it than
> you.

So what do you see that we are missing to be able to do that?

There's been comments about making it easier for teachers to use but
the problem we have is that if they can't use a couple of tools to get
the .iso image onto a usb key or find someone to help them do that
we're screwed. The fact of the matter is to use the live image you
need a certain level of technical skill. The only way I see of getting
around that is shipping it on hardware where they just have to turn on
the switch. If you go to virtualisation that becomes even harder from
a technical perspective. If they can get it to boot the rest is easy
as most of the stuff is already there.

Peter
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