Re: [IAEP] InfoTech Report and link to Photos
Caryl, Thanks for all of your work to make this happen. Please keep us posted. Thanks. Gerald On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.comwrote: Hi All, Today was showtime for SoaS at the LAUSD InfoTech and Parent Summit at the Los Angeles Convention center. This year's event was sponsored by Target as one of their community involvement projects. Everything was free... even parking and a great lunch! They said there were about 4000 people there including kids. We had a lot of parents and teachers stop by and ask about getting XOs for their schools and about SoaS. I gave them a special handout with links to lots of info. Some also signed up for the olpc-SoCal mailing list. Their names will be added sometime next week. You can see some photos of the event here. I wish I had had time to take more (and to see the other booths). http://bit.ly/9xfTAz We showed SoaS Blueberry running on the eeePC and MacBook (with a boot helper cd) and it worked fine. This was a non-persistant version. A couple of teachers who stopped by were very interested in trying it and may help us work on the Grannies Guide. I will keep working on it myself in the next couple of weeks. Thanks again to all of you who helped me get the project this far! Hopefully by CUELA's Tech Fair in November we will be ready for a hands-on make and take workshop... BYOLT and usb, take home SoaS ready to go! Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SoaS] InfoTech Report and link to Photos
Caryl; The Pictures are great! I have been fighting Windows 7 and liveusb-creator on my new acer aspire one net-book. I have always used it in fedora linux before where it is dead simple to use Now I understand your frustrations a little better. Congratulations and thanks. Tom Gilliard satellit Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hi All, Today was showtime for SoaS at the LAUSD InfoTech and Parent Summit at the Los Angeles Convention center. This year's event was sponsored by Target as one of their community involvement projects. Everything was free... even parking and a great lunch! They said there were about 4000 people there including kids. We had a lot of parents and teachers stop by and ask about getting XOs for their schools and about SoaS. I gave them a special handout with links to lots of info. Some also signed up for the olpc-SoCal mailing list. Their names will be added sometime next week. You can see some photos of the event here. I wish I had had time to take more (and to see the other booths). http://bit.ly/9xfTAz We showed SoaS Blueberry running on the eeePC and MacBook (with a boot helper cd) and it worked fine. This was a non-persistant version. A couple of teachers who stopped by were very interested in trying it and may help us work on the Grannies Guide. I will keep working on it myself in the next couple of weeks. Thanks again to all of you who helped me get the project this far! Hopefully by CUELA's Tech Fair in November we will be ready for a hands-on make and take workshop... BYOLT and usb, take home SoaS ready to go! Caryl ___ SoaS mailing list s...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] dual boot W7 - maybe OT
Tom, or other W 7 victims, Mario Cesar from Ubuntu Bolivia list is trying to help a friend whose dual-boot system gets mangled everytime she uses W 7. I am adding him to the thread (and encouraging him to sign up for IAEP, he has been quite active with OLPC / OLE / Sugar stuffs in Santa Cruz, Bolivia). He needs to figure out how to stop W 7 from destroying the GRUB (if it weren't his involvement with Sugar I would not send this through this list - apologies if this is seen as OT) I have been fighting Windows 7 and liveusb-creator on my new acer aspire one net-book. I have always used it in fedora linux before where it is dead simple to use ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] [SLOBS] meeting reminder
We'll be holding a Sugar oversight-board meeting on Monday, 26 April, at 15 UTC (11 EST) in #sugar-meeting on irc.freenode.net. We'll be ratifying the Sugar Labs trademark policy as per some discussions from a few weeks ago in Boston. John Tierney has kindly provided notes of that meeting, which I've included below. regards. -walter On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:09 PM, John Tierney jtis4...@hotmail.com wrote: Typed Copy of John Tierney written Notes of Key Points from SLOBs Trademark Discussion Monday night April 12th 2010 at OLPC Offices-Cambridge, MA. I believe I have cc'd everyone who was at meeting plus Bernie, sorry if I missed someone. (Please understand these were not minutes but personal notes, so please add comments or clarifications) Sean Daly -Tech PR -Build Brand Logo/Symbol-Meaning What Does it Stand For Values Discrimination/Exclusion-Means this, not that -Platform Ecosystem Activities -Example Adobe Labeling Program Intel Labeling Program -Which Allows for Revenue Stream From OEM Control Shaping of Brand Chris Ball -Agreement Label O.K. Revenue O.K. Smaller Set -Distribution of Code Unmodified Sugar Code Being Used By Someone-O.K. Unmodified Sugar Code with Slight Modifications-Translation, etc.-O.K. Modified Code-Must Ask -Example Ziff.org-Write Codecs GPL-Mention License Author Source Areas of Agreement on Cases where potential partner must ask for Trademark use 0. Encouraging Phrases** 1. Websites-Must Ask 2. Modified Versions-Must Ask 3. Reserved Names(Sugar on a Stick)-Must Ask 4. Logo Program-Must Ask 5. Mostly Unmodified-Must Ask **(This zero point was mentioned by Chris Ball actually last I didn't record what he might of actually titled this, this was the words I was using) A few themes I took away from the meeting are as follows: Encourage vs. Discourage Unmodified vs. Modified Logo Program-With Gradations of involvement(Possibly 3 to 4 Different Logos for Partners depending on level of involvement. Possible to have one Logo to show partners with Modified Sugar Code) My thought would be if we can focus on the Encourage and Logo Program Themes, I think it will help us come up with final wording that displays Sugar Labs as a Proactive/ Inclusive/Collaborative Partner. A suggestion to achieve this would be to: Quickly come up with the names for the labeling program along with what level of involvement and/or unmodified/modified Sugar Code that involves. We in turn need to work on Logo's but are not necessary to written copy **Sean can you post a draft outline of Labeling Program to begin discussion** With a Labeling/Logo Description in place by default those definitions will answer many of the use cases. We can then take the January 15 2010 Draft and build that language around Labeling Program with an aim to use encouraging/inclusive and clearer language. These two portions in particular seem somewhat contradictory in language after reading them and comparing them to notes and meeting discussion. Hopefully Labeling Program can absorb these two parts and allow for a clear differentiation in use cases and proper interaction with Sugar Labs to benefit the parties involved. 2a. To refer to the Sugar Labs software in substantially unmodified form substantially unmodified means built from the source code provided by the Sugar Labs project, possibly with minor modifications including but not limited to: the enabling or disabling of certain features by default, translations into other languages, changes required for compatibility with a particular operating system distribution, or the inclusion of bug-fix patches). All such minor modifications must be released under an approved license. **It seems to say you can use with some minor modifications but then says all minor modifications must be released with approved license*** 3. You may use the Sugar Labs Marks as part of the name of a product designed to work with Sugar Labs, so long as the name as a whole (via its other components) clearly and unambiguously distinguishes the product from Sugar Labs software itself, and the general presentation of the product does not imply any official association or identity with Sugar Labs. Because it would be awkward to attach a trademark symbol to a portion of a larger name whose other portions might themselves be trademarked, the requirement to display the symbol is waived for this circumstance. ***It would seem if the Sugar Labs Marks were part of the name of a product that would indicate that there is a perceived official relationship or identity to Sugar Labs which then contradicts with the next statement*** Example: If I trademark JT Linux and then sell a product JT Linux with Sugar on Board from the reading above I'm confused if I could do that or not. From the meeting my understanding is that I could. Since many of the individuals who end up
Re: [IAEP] dual boot W7 - maybe OT
Just an extra point on the graph: I'm using an emachines laptop that came preinstalled with Windows 7 (64-bit). I now have it dual-booting with Ubuntu 9.10 and I haven't had any trouble with the GRUB that was installed with Ubuntu. I've also been able to use the Fedora liveusbcreator 3.8.6 in Windows with soas-2-blueberry to make about a dozen SoaS usb sticks without too much trouble so far (couldn't work with one stick that had been formatted on a Mac). Kevin Kirton Australia Tom, or other W 7 victims, Mario Cesar from Ubuntu Bolivia list is trying to help a friend whose dual-boot system gets mangled everytime she uses W 7. He needs to figure out how to stop W 7 from destroying the GRUB ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
