Re: [IAEP] World Open Educational Resources (OER) Congress Declaration

2012-07-18 Thread Samuel Klein
I agree -- and think we should make a version of those 10 points that is
particularly relevant to us, since the language is in some places
unfamiliar to our communities.

SJ

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Christoph Derndorfer 
e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote:

 Hi all,

 thanks to a news post by UNESCO in Bangkok (
 http://www.unescobkk.org/education/ict/online-resources/databases/ict-in-education-database/item/article/unesco-world-oer-congress-releases-2012-paris-oer-declaration/)
 I learned about the 2012 Paris OER Declaration (
 http://www.unesco.org/new/fileadmin/MULTIMEDIA/HQ/CI/CI/pdf/Events/Paris%20OER%20Declaration_01.pdf)
 which was released at the end of the World Open Educational Resources (OER)
 Congress which recently took place in Paris.

 I think the 10 points mentioned in the declaration can serve both as a
 source of inspiration as well as a basis for a long-term to-do list for
 OLPC and Sugar communities.

 Cheers,
 Christoph

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Re: [IAEP] World Open Educational Resources (OER) Congress Declaration

2012-07-18 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
SJ, we should make such a list the topic of our next joint video-interview,
don't you think? ;-)

Cheers,
Christoph

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:28 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree -- and think we should make a version of those 10 points that is
 particularly relevant to us, since the language is in some places
 unfamiliar to our communities.

 SJ

 On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Christoph Derndorfer 
 e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote:

 Hi all,

 thanks to a news post by UNESCO in Bangkok (
 http://www.unescobkk.org/education/ict/online-resources/databases/ict-in-education-database/item/article/unesco-world-oer-congress-releases-2012-paris-oer-declaration/)
 I learned about the 2012 Paris OER Declaration (
 http://www.unesco.org/new/fileadmin/MULTIMEDIA/HQ/CI/CI/pdf/Events/Paris%20OER%20Declaration_01.pdf)
 which was released at the end of the World Open Educational Resources (OER)
 Congress which recently took place in Paris.

 I think the 10 points mentioned in the declaration can serve both as a
 source of inspiration as well as a basis for a long-term to-do list for
 OLPC and Sugar communities.

 Cheers,
 Christoph

 --
 Christoph Derndorfer

 volunteer, OLPC (Austria) [www.olpc.at]
 editor, OLPC News [www.olpcnews.com]
 contributor, TechnikBasteln [www.technikbasteln.net]

 e-mail: christ...@derndorfer.eu


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Re: [IAEP] [somos-azucar] sugar hack - feedback

2012-07-18 Thread Laura Vargas
2012/7/18 Aleksey Lim alsr...@sugarlabs.org

 CCing to iaep@. This is a feedback reagarding Sugar Network[1]
 Web UI lookfeel. Original post[2].

 On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 03:50:09AM -0500, Laura Vargas wrote:
  De la jornada de la mañana quedaron documentadas las siguientes
  recomendaciones de Julita, Alejandro y Ketty:
 
  01 Interfase Gris? (en Perú primaria es Sugar y Sugar es primaria)
   Color* sobre los recursos problema/rojo idea/amarillo
   pregunta/azul reseña/verde?

 My own perception is. It might be good for Sugar Shell (and sometimes
 for Sugar Activities) to follow common design idea with having grey
 background and objects painted to user's colors to expose the
 ownership (or how the original design idea sounds). But I don't see any
 reasons to extrapolate this design solution to all software that people
 will use/run from Sugar Shell:

 * it is impossible because not all edu software is intended to be
   launched only from Sugar Shell;
 * well, maybe monotone coloring is a good (not sure here) for madhouses
   or prisons, but for my self, I'm preferring to switch my desktop
   theme/colors from time to time.

 So, I'm +1 for not strictly following Sugar Shell's coloring paradigm in
 Sugar Network UI. Partial implementation might be still useful though.
 For example, using user's colors to expose objects ownership.

 But maybe it makes sense to forget about this paradigm entirely.
 It works fine/as-assumed in Sugar Shell when there is a central user -
 local user and limited number of users that local one is participating
 with. So, the coloring variety is pretty limited. But, in Sugar Network
 case when objects are global (at least assumed to be) within the entire
 Sugar community, it is becoming meaningless - there is a big chance
 to see duplicates or similar looking colors.

  02 Tool Tips para los íconos?

 There a need to explain what this button means. In regular desktop
 UI it is hints. Not sure whats the common practice in Web design for
 that. But for sure, +1 for somehow exposing such info.


+1


  03 Es posible que quede un histórico de la edición de los recursos?

 Could you elaborate it in English.


Ketty, is one of the teachers that took part in the Arahuay Pilot (first
pilot for the OLPC project in Perú). As she was very enthusiastic testing
the Network, her feedback here refers to the convenience (or need) for
participants
of being able to track all modifications made by authors to the resources
(ideas, questions, problems, reviews).

Basically Ketty's concern had to do with the fact that some comments will
end up obsolete if not updated in accordance with the resource's evolution
(editing). Currently only latest edition date and content is visible for
participants.

One step we could give in this direction, would be to implement
notifications and define participants will automatically become followers
of the X resource after having at least an effective interaction (like
giving a solution or making a comment).

 04 Podremos Adjuntar imagenes (o cualquier tipo de archivo) a los
recursos?

I think it will be a good start to attach activity objects (from
 Journal). We can improve this workflow at any time later.


+1



  05 Cuales serán los mecanismoa de Acompañamiento y que eventos de
   Activación?
  06 Sería conveniente una capacitación dirigida a los DAIPS durante
 periodos
   largos (tipo 1 semana) dentro del horario de trabajo

 These points is also not clear after mechanical translation.


  Los demás quedaron pendientes en la jornada de la tarde, tal vez se
 animen
  a cmpartirlas en la Red Azúcar o por aqui en la Lista.
 
  Saludos cordiales a todos.
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 [2] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/somosazucar/2012-July/001314.html

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