Re: [IAEP] It's a book!

2012-12-21 Thread Steve Thomas
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Jonas Smedegaard  wrote:

> Quoting Chris Leonard (2012-12-21 20:04:37)
> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Chris Leonard
> >  wrote:
> > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Jonas Smedegaard 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Wauw - really exciting!  And freely licensed!
> > >>
> > >> I am curious about sources for the book - are those freely and
> > >> openly available too?  It seems you do not mention source location,
> > >> neither at the web page nor inside the PDF.
> > >
> > >
> > > By "sources for the book" are you talking about the book file itself
> > > or the example projects?
>
> Yes, I mean the book itself.
>
> I am involved in Debian, where we go by a principle that code and
> documentation must be Free not only in its "binary" (i.e. consumer) form
> but also its source.
>
> It is not satisfactory that some kind of "source" can be derived from
> the "binary" (e.g. reverse engineering, screen-scraping etc.) but that
> the preferred source format of the authors is made available.
>
> By no means to I mean to impose this principle must apply to this book.
> But I am curious _if_ it does apply, because then I have the opportunity
> of getting the book included with Debian, and that way also included
> with Skolelinux, which I am sure would be quite appreciated and used.
>

Yes its free and we would love to see the book and Etoys n Skolelinux.
The beauty of Etoys is all the source is available and you can look at it
and modify it right inside Etoys.

Cheers,
Stephen
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Re: [IAEP] It's a book!

2012-12-21 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Chris Leonard (2012-12-21 20:04:37)
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Chris Leonard 
>  wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Jonas Smedegaard  
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Wauw - really exciting!  And freely licensed!
> >>
> >> I am curious about sources for the book - are those freely and 
> >> openly available too?  It seems you do not mention source location, 
> >> neither at the web page nor inside the PDF.
> >
> >
> > By "sources for the book" are you talking about the book file itself 
> > or the example projects?
> >
> > many of the example projects appear to be hosted at
> >
> > http://etoysillinois.org/library
> >
> > cjl
> 
> 
> If you mean the book itself, it looks like there is a little problem 
> with the link on this page:
> 
> http://en.flossmanuals.net/
> 
> bad link
> http://en.flossmanuals.net/learning-with-etoys-imagine-invent-inspire/
> 
> Error
> This page does not exist. Book
> request=learning-with-etoys-imagine-invent-inspire Chapter
> request=index

Yes, I mean the book itself.

I am involved in Debian, where we go by a principle that code and 
documentation must be Free not only in its "binary" (i.e. consumer) form 
but also its source.

It is not satisfactory that some kind of "source" can be derived from 
the "binary" (e.g. reverse engineering, screen-scraping etc.) but that 
the preferred source format of the authors is made available.

By no means to I mean to impose this principle must apply to this book.  
But I am curious _if_ it does apply, because then I have the opportunity 
of getting the book included with Debian, and that way also included 
with Skolelinux, which I am sure would be quite appreciated and used.


Hope that makes sense.

Regards,

 - Jonas

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Re: [IAEP] It's a book!

2012-12-21 Thread David Corking
This is really exciting. Thank you so much to the Education team. What
a fantastic Christmas present to the world. It joins a big family of
Booki free books for Sugar.

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Chris Leonard wrote on the IAEP list
(in reply to Jonas Smedegaard):

>>> I am curious about sources for the book - are those freely and openly
>>> available too?
...
> If you mean the book itself, it looks like there is a little problem
> with the link on this page:
>
> http://en.flossmanuals.net/
>
> bad link
> http://en.flossmanuals.net/learning-with-etoys-imagine-invent-inspire/

The link seems to be fixed now (at least it works for me.)

David
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Re: [IAEP] It's a book!

2012-12-21 Thread Chris Leonard
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Chris Leonard  wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Jonas Smedegaard  wrote:
>
>> Wauw - really exciting!  And freely licensed!
>>
>> I am curious about sources for the book - are those freely and openly
>> available too?  It seems you do not mention source location, neither at
>> the web page nor inside the PDF.
>
>
> By "sources for the book" are you talking about the book file itself
> or the example projects?
>
> many of the example projects appear to be hosted at
>
> http://etoysillinois.org/library
>
> cjl


If you mean the book itself, it looks like there is a little problem
with the link on this page:

http://en.flossmanuals.net/

bad link
http://en.flossmanuals.net/learning-with-etoys-imagine-invent-inspire/

Error
This page does not exist. Book
request=learning-with-etoys-imagine-invent-inspire Chapter
request=index

cjl
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Re: [IAEP] It's a book!

2012-12-21 Thread Chris Leonard
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Jonas Smedegaard  wrote:

> Wauw - really exciting!  And freely licensed!
>
> I am curious about sources for the book - are those freely and openly
> available too?  It seems you do not mention source location, neither at
> the web page nor inside the PDF.


By "sources for the book" are you talking about the book file itself
or the example projects?

many of the example projects appear to be hosted at

http://etoysillinois.org/library

cjl
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Re: [IAEP] It's a book!

2012-12-21 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Rita Freudenberg (2012-12-21 17:50:14)
> A New Etoys Book is available:
> 
> Learning with Etoys  Imagine, Invent, Insprire
> 
> After participating in a Doc Camp at Google, the Etoys EducationTeam 
> is happy to announce a new book.
> 
> Read It: Learn various ways Etoys can be used in the classroom.
> Use It: Adapt it for your learners.
> Share It: Tell others about it and help us spread the word.
> 
> Available for download at:
> 
> http://wiki.squeakland.org/index.php/LearningWithEtoysI3
> 
> We would love your feedback or your contributions to our next volume.

Wauw - really exciting!  And freely licensed!

I am curious about sources for the book - are those freely and openly
available too?  It seems you do not mention source location, neither at
the web page nor inside the PDF.

The final URL in the pdf - http://software.booki.cc - seems to not work.


Regards,

 - Jonas

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Re: [IAEP] It's a book!

2012-12-21 Thread Dr. Gerald Ardito
Rita, et. al.

Thanks for this great work!

Gerald


On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Rita Freudenberg <
r...@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> wrote:

> A New Etoys Book is available:
>
> Learning with Etoys  Imagine, Invent, Insprire
>
> After participating in a Doc Camp at Google, the Etoys EducationTeam is
> happy to announce a new book.
>
> Read It: Learn various ways Etoys can be used in the classroom.
> Use It: Adapt it for your learners.
> Share It: Tell others about it and help us spread the word.
>
> Available for download at:
>
> http://wiki.squeakland.org/index.php/LearningWithEtoysI3
>
> We would love your feedback or your contributions to our next volume.
>
> The Etoys Education Team
>
> Rita Freudenberg
> r...@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de
>
>
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[IAEP] Yama no longer candidate Re: [ANNOUNCE] Oversight Board Election has begun

2012-12-21 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
Dear all,
I am currently with a less than ideal connection, I wish I would have
removed myself from the list of candidates before the election got going,
my apologies.
I do still care deeply about the user experience of those who have been
given Sugar as their interface, and wish that real world needs, especially
the teacher's, will be prioritized, but I rather let others do the
oversight for it.

Thank you.

Yama

2012/12/21 Luke Faraone 

> Hi all,
>
> We have 6 candidates[1] for the Oversight Board election. Four seats are
> open for election this term. The election will finish at December 27,
> 2012 at 23:59. The candidates are:
>
>  * Adam Holt
>  * Gonzalo Odiard
>  * Claudia Urrea
>  * Sebastian Silva
>  * Yama Ploskonka
>  * S. Daniel Francis
>
> I encourage each Member to review the candidates' platforms in
> preparation for the coming election. Ballots will have been mailed by
> the time this email is sent.
>
> Individuals interested participating in next year's election should
> apply for membership[2].
>
> NOTE: This election is being conducted via the Condorcet Internet Voting
> Service[3], operated by an independant third party. This is different
> from what was done in previous elections, and a departure from what was
> mentioned in the election announcement[4] due to concerns about
> Selectricity's reliability.
>
>
> [1]: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2012-2013-candidates
> [2]:
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members#Applying_for_membership
> [3]: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/civs
> [4]: http://mid.gmane.org/20121109220022.ga10...@cobalt.mit.edu
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[IAEP] It's a book!

2012-12-21 Thread Rita Freudenberg
A New Etoys Book is available:

Learning with Etoys  Imagine, Invent, Insprire

After participating in a Doc Camp at Google, the Etoys EducationTeam is happy 
to announce a new book.

Read It: Learn various ways Etoys can be used in the classroom.
Use It: Adapt it for your learners.
Share It: Tell others about it and help us spread the word.

Available for download at:

http://wiki.squeakland.org/index.php/LearningWithEtoysI3

We would love your feedback or your contributions to our next volume.

The Etoys Education Team 

Rita Freudenberg
r...@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de



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