Re: [IAEP] Sugar network / School Network

[Dave Crossland]

Hi!

On 15 May 2016 at 13:29, Laura Vargas  wrote:

> Sugar Network is up the air, and it has more than 35.000 users. You can
> find the stats here> http://network.sugarlabs.org/stats-viewer/
>

WOW!!! That stats page is AMAZING!! :D

But having looked at the SN wiki pages in more detail, I am still confused
about Sugar Network it seems to have no activity in the last 8 months;
I don't understand why it isn't a part of Sugar itself; I don't understand
how it raised a small fund for development labour -
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Crowd_funding/Sugar_Network#Overall_progress -
and then seems to have stopped without posting why.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sugar-network seems dormant since
2014.

But since it 2 of the 3 key people I could find listed are you and
Sebastian, I hope you can refresh the wiki page section to explain these
things :)

Cheers
Dave
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Re: [IAEP] Github Student Developer Pack

[Dave Crossland]

On 15 May 2016 at 20:16, Walter Bender  wrote:

>
> "If your company produces developer tools and wants to be included in the
> pack..."
>
> What do we offer from Sugar Labs?


Hmm; Sugar has no developer tools, from what I have seen so far; eg, you
write TurtleBlocksJS in Emacs and Chromium Developer Tools.

However, the page does have,

Unreal Engine: A complete suite of game development tools for PC, console,
mobile, web and VR


So I think we could ask them to include Sugar itself; however, I kindly
think we would be rejected if we applied today because our conversion
funnel is so leaky, so I don't think Github would want to direct people to
us because we don't _appear_ to be in the same league as the other projects
in their list.

Therefore I added this to the goals in
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Vision_proposal_2016 and recommend we tackle
this in a few months :)
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Re: [IAEP] Github Student Developer Pack

[Walter Bender]

On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 8:10 PM, Dave Crossland  wrote:
>
>
> On 15 May 2016 at 17:27, Chris Leonard  wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Dave Crossland  wrote:
>> >
>> > On 15 May 2016 at 09:32, Walter Bender  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Seems like a good idea for Sugar Labs!!! Wonder what sort of packaging
>> >> they require?
>>
>> I think he is referring to software packaging (e.g. .deb or .rpm
>> packages for Linux distros).
>
>
> I still don't get it :)


"If your company produces developer tools and wants to be included in the
pack..."

What do we offer from Sugar Labs? SOaS? A pointer to OSBuild? A link to
sugar-toolkit?

-walter

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Re: [IAEP] Github Student Developer Pack

[Dave Crossland]

On 15 May 2016 at 17:27, Chris Leonard  wrote:

> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Dave Crossland  wrote:
> >
> > On 15 May 2016 at 09:32, Walter Bender  wrote:
> >>
> >> Seems like a good idea for Sugar Labs!!! Wonder what sort of packaging
> >> they require?
>
> I think he is referring to software packaging (e.g. .deb or .rpm
> packages for Linux distros).
>

I still don't get it :)
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SL member list/joining criterion

[Dave Crossland]

On 15 May 2016 at 17:30, Caryl Bigenho  wrote:

> I hope we can make it better for 2017.


I agree with you about there being these 2 things that are needed for an
election:

1. A list of active members

There are some 'ambient' lists of members - eg, the wiki's usernames list,
the total of all emails subscribed to all mailing lists - and then the list
at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members/List is and the subset
of that at https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members/Survey2015

However, this subset is claimed to be unreliable, despite Sebastian's best
efforts, and I am not sure where the former list came from for Sebastian to
upload it to Google Docs.

So I suggest develop a 'super list' with as many possible members as
possible, and then make persistent attempts to contact them until they pay
a membership donation, ask for a membership bursary so they don't have to
pay the fee personally, or tell us to go away :)

2. A voting mechanism

While http://loom.io seems good for decision making on a board, I don't
think its suitable for elections.

Instead, https://dem.tools Elections seems good - Python/MongoDB, GPLv3,
actively maintained - https://github.com/nditech/elections
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SL member list/joining criterion

[Dave Crossland]

On 15 May 2016 at 17:33, Sebastian Silva  wrote:

> I still think affirmative action to remain / become a member should be
> required.
>

$12 sounds good to me
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SL member list/joining criterion

[Sebastian Silva]

El 15/05/16 a las 16:30, Caryl Bigenho escribió:
> Some said they never received the Lime Survey.
Who? When? Where?

You keep saying this but I made my best, by using a gmail relay, that
these emails shouldn't have reached the SPAM folder. I have not heard
this from anyone except you.

I still think affirmative action to remain / become a member should be
required.
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SL member list/joining criterion

[Caryl Bigenho]

Hi All… A few comments on the discussion at hand...
Membership List:I hate to say this, but I think we need to go back to "square 
1" on the active members list. I'm not sure how to do that but I can tell you 
this… ballots were sent to all of the names on Sebastian's list. I also sent 
several emails to both the IAEP and Support Gang lists reminding folks that the 
ballots had been sent out and had to be completed by the deadline date and 
time. CIVS does not give you a list of who actually voted. For security, they 
erase all emails after the ballots are sent. The only way I could tell if a 
person had voted was during the election time. If I tried to send a ballot to 
someone who had already voted, it told me so.
I also asked folks in emails to iaep and support gang to let me know if they 
had not received a ballot and felt they should have. Some people replied 
directly to me. I checked the larger membership list and if they were, in fact 
on it, I sent a ballot. I just looked at my old emails today and there was one 
from Tim Moody. I knew he was an active member but wasn't on Sebastian's list 
from the survey. So, when he asked for a ballot, I sent him a ballot. There 
were a few others in this category. The upshot is… we need a better, updated, 
list of active members. The last effort obviously didn't work out too well.
Psychologists who work with this sort of thing say it is better to ask folks to 
"opt out" rather than in as was done with the Lime Survey. Sending an email to 
all on the master (long list) to have them ask to be marked "inactive" would 
make sense. Rather than assume no reply means no interest, those who don't 
reply could be contacted personally, if possible, to astertain their wishes and 
left on the list until we hear that they want to be removed. I hope we can 
avoid the situation we had with the Lime Survey where several active 
contributors were removed. Who knows why they didn't reply? Some said they 
never received the Lime Survey.
Voting:We wasted a lot of time looking for the "perfect" voting system. It 
probably doesn't exist. Since all of the previous elections had used a ranking 
system and CIVS offered one, it seemed the best compromise since it was what SL 
members are used to using. There was, however, one tiny little facit I didn't 
notice until I had voted and an the election was closed. That was the ability 
to use ties rather than a "forced choice" (which we may have used before and I 
thought we were using this time). I marked my votes in a ranked order… but some 
did not. 
It is interesting to see how some people tried to use this hidden feature to 
manipulate the voting. Everyone is able to look at the votes without any voter 
names or id's. Here is the link to the CIVS results page… click on the button 
at the bottom to see all the available information: 
http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_dd38dc6aa11d1a98
To see how some people tried to manipulate things, look at voters #3, 20, and 
54 for example, there are several others who took advantage of the system. Note 
there were 54 ballots cast. The voter numbers may appear in a different order 
on each visitors page since it says they were randomly generated. But you can 
probably find the ones I refer to.
So… It seems now is a good time to revisit voting systems and see if we can 
come up with a better system. I favor a simple ranking system with no ties 
(forced choice) where the ranks are added up and the candidate with the lowest 
number (thus highest ranking) is first and so on. But, maybe that is too 
simple. This is another thing the board should discuss and settle in plenty of 
time for the next election in Jan-Feb 2017.
Hopefully this helps refresh the memories of folks about the whole mixed up 
voting process. I hope we can make it better for 2017.
Caryl


> Subject: Re: [SLOBS] [IAEP] SL member list/joining criterion
> To: h...@laptop.org
> CC: d...@lab6.com; walter.ben...@gmail.com; sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org; 
> samsongo...@hotmail.com; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; cbige...@hotmail.com
> From: sebast...@fuentelibre.org
> Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 14:17:51 -0500
> 
> 
> 
> El 15/05/16 a las 13:38, Adam Holt escribió:
> > Sebastian, do you recall how many emails bounced by Dec 15th 2015 when
> > you verified 79 active members @
> > https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members/Survey2015, among
> > (about) 262 emails that you sent out ?  It would be interesting to
> > know if roughly 200 or so emails are still active, among the 264 email
> > addresses of members and former members now listed.  Not to put too
> > fine a point on it, but many of the email addresses are now dead, and
> > likely several (former) members themselves are no longer living, such
> > as Marco Pesenti Gritti :/
> 
> Of the ~262(+/-) emails sent, 50 bounced. Identifying them will take
> some processing.
> 
> > Of the (apparent) 275 living and dead people on both the "Email" tab
> (privacy-protected, for good reasons) 

Re: [IAEP] Github Student Developer Pack

[Chris Leonard]

On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Dave Crossland  wrote:
>
> On 15 May 2016 at 09:32, Walter Bender  wrote:
>>
>> Seems like a good idea for Sugar Labs!!! Wonder what sort of packaging
>> they require?
>


I think he is referring to software packaging (e.g. .deb or .rpm
packages for Linux distros).

cjl
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Re: [IAEP] Github Student Developer Pack

[Dave Crossland]

On 15 May 2016 at 09:32, Walter Bender  wrote:

> Seems like a good idea for Sugar Labs!!! Wonder what sort of packaging
> they require?
>

(Please could you re-express this, I didn't understand what you mean :)
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Re: [IAEP] SoaS Review/Article

[Dave Crossland]

On 15 May 2016 at 12:56, Chris Leonard  wrote:

> Peter, Thanks for the update on SOAS status in F24.  I am much
> comforted knowing that Sugar labs has a champion so close to the heart
> of the process.
>

This is great!!! :D
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Re: [IAEP] Sugar network / School Network

[Dave Crossland]

Hi Laura

I hear you, but this is a wiki, it is meant to be edited and re-edited
towards being up to date.

I am not deleting anything, but marking pages that I think are totally
obsolete as such, and marking pages that somewhat dated and can be
refreshed also.

In this particular case, I read in
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Harmonic_Distribution that 8 months ago Sugar
Network was transitioning to School Network, and since the contents seems
stale ("Install Sugar from the 0.94:SugarNetwork"...) I marked it as
obsolete. I'm delighted to hear it is not! :)

If I mark something as obsolete, that's because it has not been updated in
years and seems to be defunct.

If in fact it is alive and fresh, and you care about it, then please edit
it to remove anything stale and make it clear that the page is alive :)

I don't have the historical context to know, but I have been very
frustrated as someone new to Sugar Labs to be paging through a lot of stuff
from 5+ years ago that is no longer relevant :)

Perhaps we can schedule a time to work on refreshing the Sugar Network part
of the project if it is not transitioning to School Network afterall, or we
can complete the transition if it is still underway :)

Cheers
Dave


On 15 May 2016 at 13:29, Laura Vargas  wrote:

> Dave,
>
> Please do keep all "Sugar Network" and "School Network" pages as they are
> the main information for the Peruvian Sugar Network design and functions.
>
> Sugar Network is up the air, and it has more than 35.000 users. You can
> find the stats here> http://network.sugarlabs.org/stats-viewer/
>
> If you want to access as a SN user you have to install an Hexoquinasa
> version in your XO.
> http://pe.sugarlabs.org/ir/go/Proyecto_Piloto_Hexoquinasa/Instalar
>
> Regards
>
> Laura V
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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> Happy Learning!
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Cheers
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] Yoruba i18n motion

[samson goddy]

okay, so i guess chris will have to contact you then.

sam

Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 15:29:06 -0400
From: h...@laptop.org
To: cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com
CC: samsongo...@hotmail.com; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; 
sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org; 
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Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP]  [SLOB] Yoruba i18n motion

On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Chris Leonard  wrote:
On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 3:11 PM, samson goddy  wrote:

> Thanks for everyone who voted for this project. So what is the next step for

> me to do to begin.

>

>

> Samson G



Completing paperwork with SFC.  Adam is the go-between for talking to

SFC.  Completed paperwork would trigger the first "start-up"

milestone.

It'd be best if Chris Leonard called me if he 
has time this week?

So we can communicate the cleanest 
possible business-contractual needs to SFConservancy, around this first 
language especially (Yoruba's tied with Tagalog as the 42nd most popular spoken 
language according to Wikipedia..)


cjl

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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] Yoruba i18n motion

[Chris Leonard]

On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 3:29 PM, Adam Holt  wrote:
> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Chris Leonard 
> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 3:11 PM, samson goddy 
>> wrote:
>> > Thanks for everyone who voted for this project. So what is the next step
>> > for
>> > me to do to begin.
>> >
>> >
>> > Samson G
>>
>> Completing paperwork with SFC.  Adam is the go-between for talking to
>> SFC.  Completed paperwork would trigger the first "start-up"
>> milestone.
>
>
> It'd be best if Chris Leonard called me if he has time this week?
>
> So we can communicate the cleanest possible business-contractual needs to
> SFConservancy, around this first language especially (Yoruba's tied with
> Tagalog as the 42nd most popular spoken language according to Wikipedia..)


Okay, will do.

cjl
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] Yoruba i18n motion

[Chris Leonard]

On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 3:11 PM, samson goddy  wrote:
> Thanks for everyone who voted for this project. So what is the next step for
> me to do to begin.
>
>
> Samson G

Completing paperwork with SFC.  Adam is the go-between for talking to
SFC.  Completed paperwork would trigger the first "start-up"
milestone.

cjl
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] Yoruba i18n motion

[samson goddy]

Thanks for everyone who voted for this project. So what is the next step for me 
to do to begin.


Samson G

Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 21:13:34 -0400
From: walter.ben...@gmail.com
To: sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org
CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; 
olpc-...@lists.laptop.org
Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] Yoruba i18n motion

I am happy to report that this motion has passed: 5 votes in favor, 1 vote 
opposed, and 1 member choosing not to vote.
regards.
-walter
On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Walter Bender  wrote:
At today's Sugar Labs oversight board meeting [1], we discussed the motion 
submitted by Chris Leonard to fund a program for translation of Sugar into 
Yoruba, one of the three main languages spoken in Nigeria. I second the motion 
and bring it to you in an email vote.
Members of the oversight board, please reply to this email solicitation for a 
vote on the following motion.

Motion: To fund a program to initiate the translation of Sugar into Yoruba. The 
specific milestones and costs are detailed below. A description of the 
rationale for the project is found at [2]. The work would be led by Samson 
Goddy and reviewed by Chris Leonard, in his role as Translation Community 
Manager.
This proposal is for the translation of Sugar user interface andcertain Sugar 
Activities into the Yoruba language (ISO-639 code - yo).
Milestone 1 - The initial payment of $350 USD will cover startup costs(internet 
connection fees, localizer recruitment/training, etc.).Payment is to be made 
upon successful completion of contractualarrangements with fiscal sponsor (SFC).
Milestone 2 - Glucose - Payable upon completion and upload to Pootleof the PO 
files for sugar, sugar-toolkit-gtk3, OLPC_switch_desktopwill be for $1,350 USD. 
Included in this milestone is a $300 USDproject management fee, in addition to 
fees of approximately 40cents/word for the projects included in this milestone. 
 The uploadedfiles must pass all "critical" error checks (as flagged by the 
Pootlesoftware) and be approved by the Sugar Labs Translation CommunityManager, 
such approval not to be unreasonably withheld.
Milestone 2 must be completed prior to Milestone 3.
Milestone 3 - Fructose - Payable upon completion and upload of the POfiles for 
Calculate, Chat, ImageViewer, Jukebox, Log, Paint, Pippy,Portfolio, Read, 
ReadETexts, Record, Speak, Terminal, TurtleArt, Web,Write will be for $2,300 
USD. Included in this milestone is a $675 USDproject management fee, in 
addition to fees of approximately 40cents/word for the projects included in 
this milestone.  The uploadedfiles must pass all "critical" error checks (as 
flagged by the Pootlesoftware) and be approved by the Sugar Labs Translation 
CommunityManager, such approval not to be unreasonably withheld.
Total anticipated costs for all three milestone payments will be $4,000 USD.
All projects are hosted on the Sugar Labs Pootle server at
http://translate.sugarlabs.org/yo/
Translation may be performed off-line with subsequent upload to thePootle 
server.
regards,
-walter
[1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2016-05-06[2] 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gtqpEOmDxxUYGdpbbBMlrPLQ-T6_OVnqdyAPJpaeORw/edit?usp=sharing
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SL member list/joining criterion

[Adam Holt]

On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Adam Holt  wrote:

> There are small consistency error(s) like ANDRES AGUIRRE appears to have
> joined in 2015 according to the "Email" tab whereas the "Public list" tab
> says he joined in 2016; these lists should be reconciled for consistency at
> some point where we can.
>

Oops, other way around, sorry!

(Email tab shows he joined 2016; Public List tab shows he joined 2015..etc,
point being that a couple other subtle/serious gremlins can hopefully be
expunged to make all these lists more self-consistent prior to the next
election.)
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SL member list/joining criterion

[Adam Holt]

On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Sebastian Silva 
wrote:

>
>
> El 15/05/16 a las 12:56, Adam Holt escribió:
> >
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1bgJ6Z8gHpxIwpNSD8qf8B5n1ZQRA1r0AAdCDcMVeZEs/edit
> > is a private list, leaving others guessing what is being tabulated
> > about them, and by whom (I've been on SL's Oversight Board for almost
> > 7 years, and am still trying to find out).
> Only email.
>

Confirmed below.


> > Luke Faraone indicates he will try to provide me access.  If this
> > spreadsheet is the source of the 2 columns extract that appears at
> > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members/List (minus the emails
> > etc, as you seem to indicate) it would be great to confirm that indeed.
>
> Yes the wiki page has the same spreadsheet embedded in it, which is what
> I thought I had clarified for you.
>
> I just sent you write access to it.
>

Thanks Sebastian & thanks Luke.  I don't want to edit others' hard work
without understanding its structure, but fyi "Enrique Mayorga González"
appears twice (lines 209 & 211) on spreadsheet tab "Public List" as
confirmed @ http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members/List

Of the (apparent) 275 living and dead people on both the "Email" tab
(privacy-protected, for good reasons) and the "Public List" tab it's
apparent that these lists are quite different from Line 211 to 276 -- but
in these are the same 65 people (roughly speaking those who joined since
mid-2010?) then it's likely just that the 2 lists contain the same 65 names
but appearing in a different order (one presumes?)

There are small consistency error(s) like ANDRES AGUIRRE appears to have
joined in 2015 according to the "Email" tab whereas the "Public list" tab
says he joined in 2016; these lists should be reconciled for consistency at
some point where we can.

Sebastian, do you recall how many emails bounced by Dec 15th 2015 when you
verified 79 active members @
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members/Survey2015, among (about)
262 emails that you sent out ?  It would be interesting to know if roughly
200 or so emails are still active, among the 264 email addresses of members
and former members now listed.  Not to put too fine a point on it, but many
of the email addresses are now dead, and likely several (former) members
themselves are no longer living, such as Marco Pesenti Gritti :/


> > (Profound thanks Sebastian for very comprehensively shedding light on
> > this complex situation as you've just done, and your hard work with
> > Caryl & Sebastian in 2015/2016 to make the election happen -- as we
> > know from national elections in Haiti/Nigeria/USA, getting a list of
> > valid voters is in fact a VERY hard technosocial problem, even After
> > policies around eligible voters have been established!)
> You're welcome. You surely meant to include Samson. :-)
>

Yes.  Both your names start with 'S' and I definitely messed up, Apologies
to Samson Goddy !
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SL member list/joining criterion

[Sebastian Silva]

El 15/05/16 a las 12:56, Adam Holt escribió:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1bgJ6Z8gHpxIwpNSD8qf8B5n1ZQRA1r0AAdCDcMVeZEs/edit
> is a private list, leaving others guessing what is being tabulated
> about them, and by whom (I've been on SL's Oversight Board for almost
> 7 years, and am still trying to find out).
Only email.

> Luke Faraone indicates he will try to provide me access.  If this
> spreadsheet is the source of the 2 columns extract that appears at
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members/List (minus the emails
> etc, as you seem to indicate) it would be great to confirm that indeed.

Yes the wiki page has the same spreadsheet embedded in it, which is what
I thought I had clarified for you.

I just sent you write access to it.

> (Profound thanks Sebastian for very comprehensively shedding light on
> this complex situation as you've just done, and your hard work with
> Caryl & Sebastian in 2015/2016 to make the election happen -- as we
> know from national elections in Haiti/Nigeria/USA, getting a list of
> valid voters is in fact a VERY hard technosocial problem, even After
> policies around eligible voters have been established!)
You're welcome. You surely meant to include Samson. :-)
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Re: [IAEP] Github Student Developer Pack

[Ignacio Rodríguez]

I got that package like a year ago, and its really cool! :D

Is not that easy to get it (you need to be a student), it took me few
months.

But was worth the wait

2016-05-15 10:32 GMT-03:00 Walter Bender :

> Seems like a good idea for Sugar Labs!!! Wonder what sort of packaging
> they require?
>
> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Dave Crossland  wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> https://education.github.com/pack
>>
>> Nice deal
>>
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Re: [IAEP] SoaS Review/Article

[Chris Leonard]

On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Peter Robinson  wrote:

>> Is there a target date I should be aspiring to hit for poking activity
>> maintainers to make a new release?
>
> Yes, we freeze for Final on May 31st so to ensure they're stable in
> time I would want them by May 24th so we've got a bit over a week, I
> did request updates when I announced Alpha and have had no real
> response.

I'll push (or pull request) some PO files and we'll see if that can
shake out some new releases.

I'll work on this today as much as I can.

cjl
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Re: [IAEP] SoaS Review/Article

[Peter Robinson]

>>> Could someone following that more closely offer any additional details
>>> and thoughts on possible paths into a easily accessible .108 release?
>>
>> I am one of the Fedora release engineers, you could not get any closer
>> to the process. I would like to
>>
>> I'd like to see updated Activities released but they appear to not
>> happened of late.
>> http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/
>
> Peter, Thanks for the update on SOAS status in F24.  I am much
> comforted knowing that Sugar labs has a champion so close to the heart
> of the process.
>
> I will see what I can do to get some new releases of Activities.  I'm
> the Sugar Labs Translation Community Manager and I've been recovering
> and adding activities to our Pootle instance so I've been developing a
> spreadsheet inventory of ASLO (mostly to track i18n/L10n status).  I
> hope to be landing new or improved PO files to a number of Activities,
> which would be an excellent reason to do a new release.
>
> Is there a target date I should be aspiring to hit for poking activity
> maintainers to make a new release?

Yes, we freeze for Final on May 31st so to ensure they're stable in
time I would want them by May 24th so we've got a bit over a week, I
did request updates when I announced Alpha and have had no real
response.
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[IAEP] Sugar network / School Network

[Laura Vargas]

Dave,

Please do keep all "Sugar Network" and "School Network" pages as they are
the main information for the Peruvian Sugar Network design and functions.

Sugar Network is up the air, and it has more than 35.000 users. You can
find the stats here> http://network.sugarlabs.org/stats-viewer/

If you want to access as a SN user you have to install an Hexoquinasa
version in your XO.
http://pe.sugarlabs.org/ir/go/Proyecto_Piloto_Hexoquinasa/Instalar

Regards

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Re: [IAEP] SoaS Review/Article

[Chris Leonard]

On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Peter Robinson  wrote:
> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Chris Leonard  
> wrote:

>> Could someone following that more closely offer any additional details
>> and thoughts on possible paths into a easily accessible .108 release?
>
> I am one of the Fedora release engineers, you could not get any closer
> to the process. I would like to
>
> I'd like to see updated Activities released but they appear to not
> happened of late.
> http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/

Peter, Thanks for the update on SOAS status in F24.  I am much
comforted knowing that Sugar labs has a champion so close to the heart
of the process.

I will see what I can do to get some new releases of Activities.  I'm
the Sugar Labs Translation Community Manager and I've been recovering
and adding activities to our Pootle instance so I've been developing a
spreadsheet inventory of ASLO (mostly to track i18n/L10n status).  I
hope to be landing new or improved PO files to a number of Activities,
which would be an excellent reason to do a new release.

Is there a target date I should be aspiring to hit for poking activity
maintainers to make a new release?

cjl
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Re: [IAEP] SoaS Review/Article

[Peter Robinson]

On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 11:53 AM, T.K. Kang  wrote:
> Is there a working image?

There should be.

> Could not find it here ...
> https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/24/latest-Fedora-/compose/Spins/x86_64/iso/

There's been issues with some changes to the compose made late on
Friday so maybe look in the nightly F-24 branched compose at this
link:

https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/branched/

> Can we get the .108 into Fedora 23 ?  BTW the speak and record do not run
> from the new SOAS I made.

Not unless you want to step up and maintain it, I barely have time to
do the new releases.

> Cheers
>
>
> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Peter Robinson 
> wrote:
>>
>> Fedora 24
>>
>> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 10:41 AM, T.K. Kang  wrote:
>> > Great. It is sugar .106. Would like to use .108 sugar with better
>> > network
>> > connectivity.
>> > Where can we get this build?
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Peter Robinson 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/83446.html
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Re: [IAEP] Github Student Developer Pack

[Walter Bender]

Seems like a good idea for Sugar Labs!!! Wonder what sort of packaging they
require?

On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Dave Crossland  wrote:

> Hi
>
> https://education.github.com/pack
>
> Nice deal
>
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[IAEP] Github Student Developer Pack

[Dave Crossland]

Hi

https://education.github.com/pack

Nice deal

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Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Wiki Gardening Event reminder

[Laura Vargas]

According to Wikipedia [1] today we shall be celebrating Sugar Labs 8th
anniversary!

Congratulations and blessings to all and thanks for cleaning the wiki!!

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_Labs

2016-05-15 9:09 GMT+08:00 Walter Bender :

> Thanks to everyone who helped with the wiki cleanup today.
>
> Tomorrow (Sunday), we will begin at 10AM. We'll be meeting in the 3rd
> Floor lounge of the MIT Student Center (See http://whereis.mit.edu/?go=W20
> ).
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 7:10 PM, Walter Bender 
> wrote:
>
>> We will be meeting this weekend (14-15 May 2016) to do a major cleanup of
>> the Sugar Labs wiki (wiki.sugarlabs.org). Feel free to join us in person
>> (MIT W31-302) [1] or on line in the #sugar-meeting IRC channel on
>> freenode.net.
>>
>> We'll begin at 10AM ET (14UTC) [2].
>>
>> regards.
>>
>> -walter
>>
>> [1] http://whereis.mit.edu/?go=W31
>> [2]
>> http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20160514T10=43=Wiki+Gardening+Event=cursive
>>
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Re: [IAEP] SoaS Review/Article

[Peter Robinson]

Fedora 24

On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 10:41 AM, T.K. Kang  wrote:
> Great. It is sugar .106. Would like to use .108 sugar with better network
> connectivity.
> Where can we get this build?
>
> Cheers
>
> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Peter Robinson 
> wrote:
>>
>> http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/83446.html
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[IAEP] SoaS Review/Article

[Peter Robinson]

http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/83446.html
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