Re: [IAEP] "Windows Is Coming"

[Sebastian Silva]

El 19/05/16 a las 23:16, Samuel Greenfeld escribió:

> Alternatively (or perhaps alongside) a lot of schools are moving to
> Chromebooks these days.
> http://www.cnbc.com/2015/12/03/googles-chromebooks-make-up-half-of-us-classroom-devices.html
>
> If Sugar wants to be used in such environments, then it needs to work
> in a Chromebook's web browser or as an installed app.

C Scott did some work on this in 2011:
http://cananian.livejournal.com/tag/nativeclient

It looks pretty far away currently as there still isn't a GTK+/Google
NACL API.
Perhaps the broadwayd backend could be made to work eventually.
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[IAEP] SPL Sugar Project Leader + Sugar Project Secretary + Auditor team?

[Laura Vargas]

Hi all,

There is a current discussion about the need for a financial manager but at
the same time there is a lack of clear vision for the technical direction
for the Sugar Labs project.

As in free software, in organizations, one should follow what works for
others and incorporate and/or adapt good practices and smart decisions.

So, I would like to share and study the Debian case with all of you, as we
explore the idea of following Debian's example of appointing a Project
Leader, a Project Secretary, and a team of auditors, of course keeping the
functions of Oversight of the Board.

The Debian Project Leader (DPL) is the official representative of the
Debian Project. They have two main functions, one internal and one
external. In the external function, the Project Leader represents the
Debian Project to others. This involves giving talks and presentations
about Debian and attending trade shows, as well as building good
relationships with other organizations and companies. We can add
fundraising here.

Internally, the Project Leader manages the project and defines its vision.
They should talk to other Debian developers, especially to the delegates,
to see how they can assist their work. A main task of the Project Leader
therefore involves coordination and communication. :D

About the tasks and need for the Project Secretary: The most visible task
performed by the secretary is conducting votes for the project -- notably
the Project Leader elections, but also any other votes that are run
(General Resolutions, for example). Running a vote also entails determining
the number and identity of the people eligible to vote, for the purpose of
calculating quorum. The Project Secretary can also stand in for the
Leader-- but only when absolutely necessary and only when consistent with
the consensus of the Developers.

The secretary is also responsible for adjudicating any disputes about
interpretation of the constitution. Although we don't have a constitution,
we do have a governance document.

About the Debian Auditor(s) tasks:

keep track of Debian project financial assets, income, expenditures and any
other financial information
keep track of hardware resources and any other physical assets of the
Debian project
keep track of domain names, trademarks, and any other intangible assets of
the Debian project
periodically publish public reports about changes in assets and resources
including (but not limited to): money coming in via donations, money being
spent with DPL approval, new hardware bought, etc.
keep track of organizations holding assets in trust for Debian and propose
to the DPL changes in the list of trusted organization

For reimbursement: Overview of the process

1. Before making the expense, ask for pre-approval:
mail leader, Ccing auditors AND (treasu...@rt.spi-inc.org OR ka...@ffis.de
OR i...@debian.ch) -- depending on the Trusted Organizations involved in
the reimbursement. in our case SFC.
provide a rough estimate of the expense (+/-10%)

2. Wait for pre-approval
3. Make the expense
4. Ask for reimbursement. Refer to your previous pre-approval

What do you think?

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Re: [IAEP] "Windows Is Coming"

[Samuel Greenfeld]

Alternatively (or perhaps alongside) a lot of schools are moving to
Chromebooks these days.
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/12/03/googles-chromebooks-make-up-half-of-us-classroom-devices.html

If Sugar wants to be used in such environments, then it needs to work in a
Chromebook's web browser or as an installed app.

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Dave Crossland  wrote:

>
> Hi
>
> If we want to grow Sugar's userbase 10x, I think Sugar must run not only
> on GNU but also Windows and Mac OS X.
>
> 1. Rewriting everything in JavaScript for Sugarizer
>
> 2. Implementing "Sugar As A Service" with GTK3-Broadway,
> https://SandStorm.io and https://os.js.org
>
> 3. Packaging Sugar to run on any desktop
>
> I think this list is in descending order of effort.
>
> Sebastian just has done more AWESOME work to make Sugar run on any GNU
> free desktop...
>
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-toolkit/pull/3
>
> Once that effort wraps up, it will not be far for Sugar to run natively on
> non-free desktops.
>
> I kindly offer you the proposition that the majority of users of VLC and
> Firefox and LibreOffice and Inkscape and GIMP and Blender and all the other
> major free software projects are on Windows.
>
> More philosophically, I think that the most powerful attribute of libre
> software is that it can be ubiquitous. I think a ultra-cross-platform
> strategy that pushes this attribute to its limit is advantageous for the
> software freedom movement, because it - massively - widens the conversion
> funnel (
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/www-sugarlabs/blob/master/STRUCTURE.md) and
> gets people familiar with libre UIs and gets their data into libre formats,
> so that making the transition to a GNU desktop is actually very
> straightforward.
>
> --
> Cheers
> Dave
>
> [image: Inline images 1]"
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Re: [IAEP] Sugar network/ School Network (Laura Vargas)

[Laura Vargas]

2016-05-19 20:40 GMT+08:00 Tony Anderson :

> Hi, Laura
>
> Hi Tony!


> Sorry about my confusing  message with the digest title.
>
>
No problem :D


> I tried the Sugar network several years ago but decided that it was not
> usable because it is dependent on internet access. Is that
> still the case?
>
> I'll rescue the text from the original thread:

"The node service runs locally on each machine. Thus, the node would have
to be included in the Sugar distribution. The node offers an API for
accessing/interaction with Sugar Network resources."

Basically this means that each machine could become a server for a local
Sugar Network node. Still, some work would have to be done to achieve
synchronization with the main node.

That said, the last production version was made for Sugar 0.94. There would
be important work to be done if you want it to run with a newer version.

Regards and blessings,

laura V


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[IAEP] "Windows Is Coming"

[Dave Crossland]

Hi

If we want to grow Sugar's userbase 10x, I think Sugar must run not only on
GNU but also Windows and Mac OS X.

1. Rewriting everything in JavaScript for Sugarizer

2. Implementing "Sugar As A Service" with GTK3-Broadway,
https://SandStorm.io and https://os.js.org

3. Packaging Sugar to run on any desktop

I think this list is in descending order of effort.

Sebastian just has done more AWESOME work to make Sugar run on any GNU free
desktop...

https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-toolkit/pull/3

Once that effort wraps up, it will not be far for Sugar to run natively on
non-free desktops.

I kindly offer you the proposition that the majority of users of VLC and
Firefox and LibreOffice and Inkscape and GIMP and Blender and all the other
major free software projects are on Windows.

More philosophically, I think that the most powerful attribute of libre
software is that it can be ubiquitous. I think a ultra-cross-platform
strategy that pushes this attribute to its limit is advantageous for the
software freedom movement, because it - massively - widens the conversion
funnel (https://github.com/sugarlabs/www-sugarlabs/blob/master/STRUCTURE.md)
and gets people familiar with libre UIs and gets their data into libre
formats, so that making the transition to a GNU desktop is actually very
straightforward.

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Re: [IAEP] New Scratch Blocks announced at Google IO

[Dave Crossland]

On 19 May 2016 at 19:23, Chris Leonard  wrote:

> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Dave Crossland  wrote:
> >
> > I'm curious, what links do we have with the Scratch community? We have
> > superhero Bert here from the Squeak community :D
> >
>
> There are the obvious MIT MediaLab connections.


Sure :) What I mean it, is anyone reading this list this week got any
connection to the Scratch community? :)


> Back in the day, we
> hosted Scratch on our Pootle instance, until they chose to host on
> their own instance.


Cool!


> We were a distributor (via ASLO) until the license issue came up a few
> years back.
>

Hmm. It seems v2 doesn't run outside the Flash VM, which Sugar Distros
won't publicly distribute, but it seems the latest v1 and v2 versions are
GPL, per https://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Scratch_Source_Code_License

Why wouldn't we distribute 1.4?

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Re: [IAEP] New Scratch Blocks announced at Google IO

[Chris Leonard]

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Dave Crossland  wrote:
>
> I'm curious, what links do we have with the Scratch community? We have
> superhero Bert here from the Squeak community :D
>

There are the obvious MIT MediaLab connections.  Back in the day, we
hosted Scratch on our Pootle instance, uintil they chose to host on
their own instance.  We were a distributor (via ASLO) until the
license issue came up a few years back.

cjl
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Re: [IAEP] New Scratch Blocks announced at Google IO

[Dave Crossland]

On 19 May 2016 at 16:38, Laura Vargas  wrote:

> For those of us interested in statistics, I recommend to check out the
> amazing job they did with this -clear to understand- dashboard:
>
> https://scratch.mit.edu/statistics/
>
> A lot to learn,
>

Thanks for pointing this out!

The design of
http://stats.sugarlabs.org/activities.sugarlabs.org/awstats.pl?framename=mainright#countries
sucks but its basically almost all the same info :) I am optimistic that
within 6 months we can get the website turned around very nicely :)

I'm curious, what links do we have with the Scratch community? We have
superhero Bert here from the Squeak community :D
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Re: [IAEP] New Scratch Blocks announced at Google IO

[Laura Vargas]

For those of us interested in statistics, I recommend to check out the
amazing job they did with this -clear to understand- dashboard:

https://scratch.mit.edu/statistics/

A lot to learn,

2016-05-20 0:44 GMT+08:00 Walter Bender :

> I had considered rebasing Turtle Blocks to a Blocky library base, but I
> have never convinced myself it is worth the bother and there are some
> design decisions I am not happy with (e.g., infix vs prefix) and the
> general model of how screen space is used.
>
> -walter
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Nick Doiron  wrote:
>
>> They don't have a lot of technical details in the post, but reading
>> between the lines, it sounds like Google and Scratch are settling on Google
>> Blockly library?  This is the same one used by Code.org in their examples
>>
>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 10:12 PM, Dave Crossland  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>>
>>> https://medium.com/mit-media-lab/scratch-google-next-generation-of-programming-blocks-for-kids-5f377ec9ff0
>>>
>>> Interesting evolution of the blocks programming approach :)
>>>
>>> --
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Re: [IAEP] New Scratch Blocks announced at Google IO

[Walter Bender]

I had considered rebasing Turtle Blocks to a Blocky library base, but I
have never convinced myself it is worth the bother and there are some
design decisions I am not happy with (e.g., infix vs prefix) and the
general model of how screen space is used.

-walter

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Nick Doiron  wrote:

> They don't have a lot of technical details in the post, but reading
> between the lines, it sounds like Google and Scratch are settling on Google
> Blockly library?  This is the same one used by Code.org in their examples
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 10:12 PM, Dave Crossland  wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>> https://medium.com/mit-media-lab/scratch-google-next-generation-of-programming-blocks-for-kids-5f377ec9ff0
>>
>> Interesting evolution of the blocks programming approach :)
>>
>> --
>> Cheers
>> Dave
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[IAEP] What will we do this year?

[Dave Crossland]

Hi

In thread "Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and
some open issues to discuss" on 11 May 2016 at 22:28, Sam Parkinson <
sam.parkins...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> The SLOBs already seem to have some capital ...  the SLOBS should do
> something before seeking to raise additional funding
>

I concur Sir, I concur. ;)

I have taken the liberty of filling out the Goals section of
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Vision_proposal_2016

I invite everyone to take some time this week to add their own ideas for
things that they think SL should do this year :)

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[IAEP] Trip Advisor Agreement?

[Dave Crossland]

Hi

In thread "Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and
some open issues to discuss" on 11 May 2016 at 14:05, Laura Vargas <
la...@somosazucar.org> wrote:

> there are ~US$65,000 available for planning/distributing among
> activities/teams/projects etc.


Hmm. I think the majority of this is only available within the boundaries
set by the Trip Advisor grant; while "legally" the contractual agreement
between Conservancy and Trip Advisor didn't set such boundaries, we are
honour-bound to stay within them.

Where is the Conservancy-TripAdvisor grant agreement?
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?search=trip+advisor=Special%3ASearch=Go
turns up nothing...

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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

[Dave Crossland]

Hi Caryl!

On 12 May 2016 at 11:08, Dave Crossland  wrote:

> Hi
>
> On 12 May 2016 at 10:51, Caryl Bigenho  wrote:
>
>> Dues are a bad idea!
>> Sorry folks
>>
>
> Please could you explain why you think this?
>

I'm keen to understand your concern :)

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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] GSoC mentor stipend motion

[Dave Crossland]

On 19 May 2016 at 11:21, Tony Anderson  wrote:

> I am not sure of my arithmetic. Six mentors at $500 is $3000, so 10% is
> $300 and 5% is $150. Leaving $2550 or $255 per mentor.
>

Works for me. I updated the motion! :)
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Re: [IAEP] New Scratch Blocks announced at Google IO

[Nick Doiron]

They don't have a lot of technical details in the post, but reading between
the lines, it sounds like Google and Scratch are settling on Google Blockly
library?  This is the same one used by Code.org in their examples

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 10:12 PM, Dave Crossland  wrote:

>
> Hi
>
>
> https://medium.com/mit-media-lab/scratch-google-next-generation-of-programming-blocks-for-kids-5f377ec9ff0
>
> Interesting evolution of the blocks programming approach :)
>
> --
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] GSoC mentor stipend motion

[Tony Anderson]

I am not sure of my arithmetic. Six mentors at $500 is $3000, so 10% is 
$300 and 5% is $150. Leaving $2550 or $255 per mentor.


Tony

On 05/18/2016 02:37 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:


Hi

On 18 May 2016 at 04:15, Tony Anderson > wrote:


In the case of the GSOC stipend, I assume the total amount is
transferred to SugarLabs. That amount is based on the number of
slots (6) and not on
the number of mentors.


Yes, the total is based on that, but the fraction due to each mentor 
is not, because we have more mentors than slots.


The amount is fixed per slot ($500). So SFC would take $250


Why would SFC take 50%?

and SugarLabs would take $125.


Why would SL take 25%

This would result in a balance of $2625 or $262.50 per each of the
ten mentors. Each mentor could individually decide to request the
$262.50 or leave it in the General Fund.


:)

In the case of the membership donation. It appears to be a
donation since there is no penalty. I think it should be a
donation request with the amounts

as an 'expectation'.


I don't understand. It is called a donation, and thus it is _de facto_ 
a donation request.


If you would like to amend the text I drafted, please use the 
suggestions feature of Google Docs.


If you would like to see donations solicited in totally different way, 
please draft a counter motion and post it.


I don't understand the 'rewards' for larger donations. What is a
release codename?


Its a long tradition in software projects to have names for releases; 
Microsoft's codenames in the 90s were cities - Windows 95 was Cairo - 
and most major free software projects use them:


https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/History_of_Fedora_release_names
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_release_history

More importantly, I think the first step is to provide a simple
way for members or non-members to donate to support Sugar Labs. Is
this paypal, credit card or   Is this something that SFC must
provide or can SugarLabs do this on its own?


The donate link on the wiki was not working, I didn't retrieve a 
working link yet, but when I do I will get it back on the website :) 
I'd be very grateful if you could help with this :D


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[IAEP] New Scratch Blocks announced at Google IO

[Dave Crossland]

Hi

https://medium.com/mit-media-lab/scratch-google-next-generation-of-programming-blocks-for-kids-5f377ec9ff0

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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] f24 Live-Media-Creator for Building Live DVD Remixes

[Chris Leonard]

 Tom,

Thanks for your work on Live media and for keeping a weather eye out on SoaS.


cjl

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 4:01 AM, Thomas Gilliard  wrote:
> I have finally worked out how to Do a livemedia-creator Remix in f24 [1]
> livecd-creator [2] will be phased out soon
> so this will be the only way we can do a live remix in the future
>
> Tom Gilliard
> satellit
>
> [1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_24#livemedia-creator
> [2]
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Re: [IAEP] Sugar network/ School Network (Laura Vargas)

[Tony Anderson]

Hi, Dave

The 'normal mail': tony_ander...@usa.net is rejected by gmail per some 
security check installed in January of this year. Sending emails from 
t...@olenepal.org works because it is a gmail account. I guess I am 
going to have to register for the lists a second time with the other 
olenepal email address. Sigh.


Tony

On 05/19/2016 03:08 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:

Hi

On 19 May 2016 at 09:02, Tony Anderson > wrote:


It now takes forever to go through the myriad of emails I get each
day. The digest now doesn't really help as much because almost all
emails are
sent to three or more lists.


I agree, there are a lot of lists for a (nowadays) small community. I 
hope we can address that this year :)


I just forget to change the subject. Unfortunately, I am not
registered on the lists as t...@olenepal.org
 and so posts there
are rejected. On the other hand, my normal email cannot deliver
messages to gmail accounts. Sigh.


Changing the email you register on the lists takes only a few minutes, 
so sign up a new email and sign out an old one.


What's wrong with your 'normal' email?

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Re: [IAEP] Sugar network/ School Network (Laura Vargas)

[Dave Crossland]

Hi

On 19 May 2016 at 09:02, Tony Anderson  wrote:

> It now takes forever to go through the myriad of emails I get each day.
> The digest now doesn't really help as much because almost all emails are
> sent to three or more lists.
>

I agree, there are a lot of lists for a (nowadays) small community. I hope
we can address that this year :)


> I just forget to change the subject. Unfortunately, I am not registered on
> the lists as t...@olenepal.org and so posts there
> are rejected. On the other hand, my normal email cannot deliver messages
> to gmail accounts. Sigh.
>

Changing the email you register on the lists takes only a few minutes, so
sign up a new email and sign out an old one.

What's wrong with your 'normal' email?

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Re: [IAEP] Sugar network/ School Network (Laura Vargas)

[Tony Anderson]

Hi Dave,

It now takes forever to go through the myriad of emails I get each day. 
The digest now doesn't really help as much because almost all emails are
sent to three or more lists. I just forget to change the subject. 
Unfortunately, I am not registered on the lists as t...@olenepal.org and 
so posts there
are rejected. On the other hand, my normal email cannot deliver messages 
to gmail accounts. Sigh.


Tony

On 05/19/2016 02:43 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:

Hi Tony

On 19 May 2016 at 08:40, Tony Anderson > wrote:


Sorry about my confusing  message with the digest title.


Would you consider changing your list preference from digest to 
seperate-emails? :)


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Re: [IAEP] Sugar network/ School Network (Laura Vargas)

[Dave Crossland]

Hi Tony

On 19 May 2016 at 08:40, Tony Anderson  wrote:

> Sorry about my confusing  message with the digest title.
>

Would you consider changing your list preference from digest to
seperate-emails? :)

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Re: [IAEP] Sugar network/ School Network (Laura Vargas)

[Tony Anderson]

Hi, Laura

Sorry about my confusing  message with the digest title.

I tried the Sugar network several years ago but decided that it was not 
usable because it is dependent on internet access. Is that

still the case?

Tony

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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] interesting summary on FOSS project management

[Dave Crossland]

Hi

I suppose "public software" ought to have some kind of license for the
general public where could we find such a thing?? lol

On 19 May 2016 at 08:17, Walter Bender  wrote:

> In light of our recent discussions about migrating more fully to the
> github infrastructure, I thought community members might find this article
> from LWN.net of interest.
>
> https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/687736/ba8b082ec178312a/
>
> It is nice to know that we are not alone in wrestling with these issues.
>
> regards.
>
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[IAEP] interesting summary on FOSS project management

[Walter Bender]

In light of our recent discussions about migrating more fully to the github
infrastructure, I thought community members might find this article from
LWN.net of interest.

https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/687736/ba8b082ec178312a/

It is nice to know that we are not alone in wrestling with these issues.

regards.

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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] f24 Live-Media-Creator for Building Live DVD Remixes

[Dave Crossland]

On 19 May 2016 at 04:01, Thomas Gilliard  wrote:

> I have finally worked out how to Do a livemedia-creator Remix in f24 [1]
> livecd-creator [2] will be phased out soon
> so this will be the only way we can do a live remix in the future
>

AWESOME work Tom!! :D
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Re: [IAEP] SLOB Motions A & B

[Dave Crossland]

On 19 May 2016 at 03:18, Tony Anderson  wrote:

> Most of the rest is implicit


I think there is no hard at all in making what is implicit explicit; to
leave things implicit simplifies the text, but complicates the execution.
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOB Motions A & B

[Dave Crossland]

On 19 May 2016 at 08:02, Walter Bender  wrote:

> I don't know how to make these decisions sticky vis-a-vis the reporting
> requirements of the Conservancy. They seem to want a full oversight board
> vote on every expenditure.


Adam, as the nominated single point of contact between Conservancy and
Sugar Labs, perhaps it would be helpful to track a list of things that we'd
like you to ask them on the wiki? :)
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] f24 Live-Media-Creator for Building Live DVD Remixes

[Walter Bender]

That's great.

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 4:01 AM, Thomas Gilliard 
wrote:

> I have finally worked out how to Do a livemedia-creator Remix in f24 [1]
> livecd-creator [2] will be phased out soon
> so this will be the only way we can do a live remix in the future
>
> Tom Gilliard
> satellit
>
> [1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_24#livemedia-creator
> [2]
> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Build_Your_Own_Remix_with_Fedora#Install_the_necessary_software
>



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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOB Motions A & B

[Walter Bender]

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 3:18 AM, Tony Anderson 
wrote:

> I think motion A could be simplified:
>
> The Finance Manager shall be appointed by a majority vote of the Sugar
> Labs Oversight Board and may be either a non-voting officer or one of the
> current Oversight Board members. The Finance Manager will serve at the will
> of the Board and may be removed and replaced by a majority vote of the
> Board if necessary.
>
> to
>
> The Oversight Board shall appoint a member of Sugar Labs to serve in the
> office of *Finance Manager* at the will of the Board.
>
> The last two paragraphs can be deleted. The last paragraph is redundant
> given the Finance Manager serves at the will of the Board. The
> paragraph regarding remuneration is unnecessary since the Board can
> clearly make decisions about remuneration as needed (which is basically
> wha the paragraph says).
>
> I think Motion B is unnecessary. The procedure with regard to the
> Conservancy is already defined (and apparently not under our control).
>
> Add to Motion A: duties:
>
> 3. The Finance Manager is authorized to approve expenditures up to $100
> Requests for expenditures will be presented to the Board by the
> Finance Manager for approval.
>
> Most of the rest is implicit in Motion A duties item 1.
>
>
>
I agree with Tony. But I would like to extend the approval of these types
of expenditures to others as well. We had approved Bernie up to $200 for
infrastructure team expenditures (MOTION 2011-04) and I thought we had
intended the same for Chris in regard to i18n (MOTION 2013-05) and me
regarding Turtle Art Days (MOTION 2016-09). I'd like to give similar
discretion to, for example, the marketing team. But I don't know how to
make these decisions sticky vis-a-vis the reporting requirements of the
Conservancy. They seem to want a full oversight board vote on every
expenditure. Unless we can sort that out, the FM authorization proposed in
#3 above is meaningless.

-walter

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[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] f24 Live-Media-Creator for Building Live DVD Remixes

[Thomas Gilliard]

I have finally worked out how to Do a livemedia-creator Remix in f24 [1]
livecd-creator [2] will be phased out soon
so this will be the only way we can do a live remix in the future

Tom Gilliard
satellit

[1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_24#livemedia-creator
[2] 
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Build_Your_Own_Remix_with_Fedora#Install_the_necessary_software

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Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 98, Issue 61

[Tony Anderson]

I tried this several years ago but decided that it was not usable 
because it is dependent on internet access. Is that

still the case?

Tony

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Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 13:39:50 +0800
From: Laura Vargas 
To: Dave Crossland 
Cc: sugar-...@lists.sugarlabs.org, iaep 
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Sugar network / School Network
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Re: [IAEP] SLOB Motions A & B

[Tony Anderson]

I think motion A could be simplified:

The Finance Manager shall be appointed by a majority vote of the Sugar 
Labs Oversight Board and may be either anon-voting officer or one of the 
current Oversight Board members. The Finance Manager will serve at the 
will of the Board and may be removed and replaced by a majority vote of 
the Board if necessary.


to

The Oversight Board shall appoint a member of Sugar Labs to serve in the 
office of _Finance Manager_ at the will of the Board.


The last two paragraphs can be deleted. The last paragraph is redundant 
given the Finance Manager serves at the will of the Board. The
paragraph regarding remuneration is unnecessary since the Board can 
clearly make decisions about remuneration as needed (which is basically

wha the paragraph says).

I think Motion B is unnecessary. The procedure with regard to the 
Conservancy is already defined (and apparently not under our control).


Add to Motion A: duties:

3. The Finance Manager is authorized to approve expenditures up to $100 
Requests for expenditures will be presented to the Board by the

Finance Manager for approval.

Most of the rest is implicit in Motion A duties item 1.


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