Re: [IAEP] MOTION to budget professional services for a Yoruba-Igbo XO build WAS [Re: Yoruba localization contract completed

[Laura Vargas]

Samson,

It is so sad that you have decided not to second the motion to support an
XO build that includes the Yoruba and Igbo translations.

After US$ 4,000, almost a year that translations were completed, and an
extensive list of voluntary hours invested from many members of the
community, such translations have reached 0 learners! please explain openly.

I hope this is not the story you plan to share with other communities as it
will make SL community sound like a group of crazy people.

Regards


Laura V


2017-06-06 15:05 GMT-05:00 Laura Vargas :

>
> Samson,
>
> It is nice to hear there is interest in the build directly from Nigeria :D
>
> I don't think there is any conflict of interest for you to second this
> motion so we can start defining the work to be done.
>
>
> Regards and blessings
>
> laura v
>
>
> 2017-06-05 8:40 GMT-05:00 David Ally :
>
>> Dear Samson,
>> Yes, I am a Nigerian, I grew up in Lagos and had all my schooling in
>> Lagos, Primary, Secondary, Polytechnic and University in Lagos.
>>
>> I left Lagos in 1993, and now based in Abuja.
>>
>> I have a gmail account dade.a...@gmail.com, we can link up on Hangout.
>> It will be nice to talk about the proposed Sugar in Nigeria.
>>
>> Regards!
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, June 3, 2017, 5:33:44 PM GMT+1, Samson Goddy <
>> samsongo...@sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Are you a Nigerian?
>>
>> Me too, this is going to be my third time coming to lagos. I have been
>> living in Port Harcourt, how did you propose we discuss? i am mostly
>> available via Google Hangout? i and walter are planning workshop around
>> Sugar in Nigeria soon. Maybe you can be of help too then we will talk about
>> other things.
>>
>> Samson
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 5:17 PM, David Ally  wrote:
>>
>> I am based in Abuja, I hardly come around to Lagos, even though I grew up
>> in Lagos. I plan to visit Lagos State University this month to meet with
>> the President of Linguistic Association of Nigeria, I am not sure if I can
>> plan the trip to coincide with your presence in Lagos, either way let's
>> share some thought on this translation project please.
>>
>> I should be in the US in July for about 3weeks, if there is any important
>> event relating to this I could find time to attend.
>>
>> Regards!
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, June 3, 2017, 5:05:44 PM GMT+1, Chris Leonard <
>> cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Laura Vargas 
>> wrote:
>>
>> >> > So, I propose the following Motion:
>> >> >
>> >> > SL will allocate a budget of US$TBD for "professional services"
>> required
>> >> > to
>> >> > create a fitable image for Samson's and Ibiam's young XO partners in
>> >> > Africa.
>> >> > SL will make an open call to the mailing list to find one or more
>> >> > professional to do it.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Hope we can start using SL money to actually outreach Sugar learners!
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> The PO files have been committed to the relevant repos and as new
>> >> Activity releases have been made (thanks Quozl for your recent
>> >> Fructose push) they have been made available via ASLO.  It is true
>> >> that a build of the core UI strings would be needed, but I thought
>> >> that might come via a new SOAS release.
>> >>
>> >> Are you proposing a custom build for Nigeria?
>> >
>> >
>> > Yes.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> If so, I would request that OLPC switch desktop PO file for Igbo be
>> >> completed before such an attempt was made.
>> >
>> >
>> > I understand there would be technical and academic considerations in
>> order
>> > to detail the work to be done. I hope you can guide the execution from
>> the
>> > translation's POV.
>> >
>>
>> Of course, I would welcome the opportunity to assist.
>>
>> > The objective of the motion is to define if it is worth to rescue all
>> the
>> > work and investment (community's time and money) done last year by Sugar
>> > Labs on Samson's and Ibiam's line of work.
>>
>> A funded project for a single-purpose build would not be as valuable
>> as adding a component to it that included improving documentation (and
>> possibly toolchain) of the custom-build process in such a way that it
>> is more easily repeated by others.  That way it is an investment in a
>> repeatable process, not a single product.  Just a thought.
>>
>>
>> cjl
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>
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [Sugar-devel] MOTION: French visa for Samson Goddy to attend 10-year Anniversary Scratch Conf / 50-year Anniversary of Logo

[Adam Holt]

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 8:22 AM, Ignacio Rodríguez 
wrote:

> Sorry I did not reply before.
>
> It's a yes (+1) for me.
> Let's hope everyone votes now!
>

Yes!  This motion will pass (4 out of 7 votes is the bare minimum) with a
big thanks to all for staying engaged in support of Sugar Labs, until all
votes are counted, such that all sincerely held perspectives are respected,
one way or another!

Have a great trip Samson and let's hope the French govt cooperates in
understanding free/open learning from a truly global perspective~

*PS plz let us know your favorite non-Facebook channels if poss, in
addition to your outreach work on FB?*


Thanks,
> Ignacio
>
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Adam Holt  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 8:07 AM, Samson Goddy 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> To those members who haven't voted.. could you please come and vote.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks you Ignacio, Lionel & Laura if you can please vote Yes or No
>> immediately !!
>>
>> PS i (presume) this motion expires 3:28 PM NYC Time today, in 7+ hours
>> from now, i.e. exactly 1 week after it was seconded and voting began.
>>
>>
>>> It is very disappointing that this motion is still pending. I am to
>>> travel to lagos tomorrow and i really need to know what will happen to the
>>> motion.
>>>
>>> Samson G
>>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2017 11:30 AM, "Adam Holt"  wrote:
>>>
 On Jun 7, 2017 7:59 AM, "Adam Holt"  wrote:

 Lionel, Sameer, Laura & Ignacio,

 Can you please try to vote yes or no


 Or please formally abstain, but do vote your opinion please!

 (As you we're elected to do, setting a tone for forward action — in
 whatever direction your conscience takes you — Thanks All!)


 today

 as Samson would need to fly to Lagos immediately this wkd (or Monday
 latest, to get everything in motion) so does need to know what's happening
 ASAP as the wkd approaches, *Thanks All for your consideration!*


 On Jun 5, 2017 3:28 PM, "Walter Bender" 
 wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Adam Holt  wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Samson Goddy 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I will take sole responsibility for the lost and if it happen, i
>>> didn't get the visa.
>>>
>>
>> My apologies I misunderstood earlier, among the many emails.  That
>> makes things very clear, thank you Samson.  Be it then resolved:
>>
>> "To support Samson Goddy's attending 2017 Scratch conference in
>> Bordeaux, France (19-21 July 2017) to strengthen our relationship with
>> Scratch, Sugar Labs should allocate up to $500 in support of his 
>> obtaining
>> a French visa, including (as nec) travel from Port Harcourt to Lagos for 
>> as
>> many days as required.  Any receipts to this end, Samson will submit to 
>> the
>> Software Freedom Conservancy.  It is understood that if the French
>> government very unfortunately turns down his visa application, preventing
>> him from attending Bordeaux, these lost funds will be borne by Samson
>> Goddy."
>>
>> Thanks in advance to any board members who can second this motion,
>> thereby helping Samson/Scratch/Sugar move forward!
>>
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>>
>>
> While I think it is unconscionable for Sugar Labs not to shoulder the
> responsibility of the visa on behalf of one of our members, I will
> nonetheless second the motion, bad precedent and all, as it seems to be 
> the
> only way to get unstuck.
>
> -walter
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [Sugar-devel] MOTION: French visa for Samson Goddy to attend 10-year Anniversary Scratch Conf / 50-year Anniversary of Logo

[Samson Goddy]

To those members who haven't voted.. could you please come and vote. It is
very disappointing that this motion is still pending. I am to travel to
lagos tomorrow and i really need to know what will happen to the motion.

Samson G

On Jun 9, 2017 11:30 AM, "Adam Holt"  wrote:

> On Jun 7, 2017 7:59 AM, "Adam Holt"  wrote:
>
> Lionel, Sameer, Laura & Ignacio,
>
> Can you please try to vote yes or no
>
>
> Or please formally abstain, but do vote your opinion please!
>
> (As you we're elected to do, setting a tone for forward action — in
> whatever direction your conscience takes you — Thanks All!)
>
>
> today
>
> as Samson would need to fly to Lagos immediately this wkd (or Monday
> latest, to get everything in motion) so does need to know what's happening
> ASAP as the wkd approaches, *Thanks All for your consideration!*
>
>
> On Jun 5, 2017 3:28 PM, "Walter Bender"  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Adam Holt  wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Samson Goddy 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I will take sole responsibility for the lost and if it happen, i didn't
 get the visa.

>>>
>>> My apologies I misunderstood earlier, among the many emails.  That makes
>>> things very clear, thank you Samson.  Be it then resolved:
>>>
>>> "To support Samson Goddy's attending 2017 Scratch conference in
>>> Bordeaux, France (19-21 July 2017) to strengthen our relationship with
>>> Scratch, Sugar Labs should allocate up to $500 in support of his obtaining
>>> a French visa, including (as nec) travel from Port Harcourt to Lagos for as
>>> many days as required.  Any receipts to this end, Samson will submit to the
>>> Software Freedom Conservancy.  It is understood that if the French
>>> government very unfortunately turns down his visa application, preventing
>>> him from attending Bordeaux, these lost funds will be borne by Samson
>>> Goddy."
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance to any board members who can second this motion,
>>> thereby helping Samson/Scratch/Sugar move forward!
>>>
>>> ___
>>> Sugar-devel mailing list
>>> sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org
>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>>>
>>>
>> While I think it is unconscionable for Sugar Labs not to shoulder the
>> responsibility of the visa on behalf of one of our members, I will
>> nonetheless second the motion, bad precedent and all, as it seems to be the
>> only way to get unstuck.
>>
>> -walter
>>
>> --
>> Walter Bender
>> Sugar Labs
>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>> 
>>
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