Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] ICA or ICLA for SugarLabs ?

2009-02-04 Thread Morgan Collett
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 15:50, Bernie Innocenti ber...@laptop.org wrote:
  - in no case ask people to sing NDAs or copyright attributions;

And anything we do have to sing, should be playable with free codecs.

:)
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] ICA or ICLA for SugarLabs ?

2009-02-04 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Morgan Collett wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 15:50, Bernie Innocenti ber...@laptop.org wrote:
  - in no case ask people to sing NDAs or copyright attributions;
 
 And anything we do have to sing, should be playable with free codecs.

ROTFL! ;-

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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] ICA or ICLA for SugarLabs ?

2009-02-03 Thread Bernie Innocenti
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Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote:

 Thanks for your answer,
   and you are right this question is more suitable for IAEP. 

Yup, +1!

And I side with Chris in trying not to bother our contributors with legal 
paperwork unless *absolutely* necessary.

If we must, at least we should consider:

 - using paperless technologies (gpg signed email, web forms, etc.);

 - using only very fair and informal agreements like the Ubuntu
   Code of Conduct [1] and the USENIX Sage Code of Ethics [2];

 - in no case ask people to sing NDAs or copyright attributions;

[1] https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct
[2] http://www.sage.org/ethics/


 
 Rafael Ortiz
 
 
 On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org
 mailto:c...@laptop.org wrote:
 
 Hi Rafael,
 
Do we have now and individual contributor agreement or Individual
contributor license agreement for Sugar for Sugar Labs now ?
 
 No.  We don't know that we want one, and the SFLC hasn't responded to
 our question about whether it might be important.
 
 It still doesn't seem like a worthwhile idea to me.  Projects have an
 ICA when they're starting out and want to be sure to be able to enforce
 copyright on their work colletively, but Sugar's been around for a while
 and already has a mass of code that can't be retroactively covered by
 a license agreeement.  So, the main positive point isn't applicable,
 and the main negative point about it being a huge turn-off for new
 contributors is still there.
 
 Feel free to ask questions like this on iaep@, I don't think we're
 trying to keep the fact that we're considering an ICA private.
 
 - Chris.
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] ICA or ICLA for SugarLabs ?

2009-02-03 Thread David Farning
SLOBS CC removed

Please continue to bug us about this  It was so far down my todo list
it fell of the end.  Based on the fact the SFC has not gotten back to
us it is pretty low on their list too.

david

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@laptop.org wrote:
 [cc += i...@]

 Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote:

 Thanks for your answer,
   and you are right this question is more suitable for IAEP.

 Yup, +1!

 And I side with Chris in trying not to bother our contributors with legal 
 paperwork unless *absolutely* necessary.

 If we must, at least we should consider:

  - using paperless technologies (gpg signed email, web forms, etc.);

  - using only very fair and informal agreements like the Ubuntu
   Code of Conduct [1] and the USENIX Sage Code of Ethics [2];

  - in no case ask people to sing NDAs or copyright attributions;

 [1] https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct
 [2] http://www.sage.org/ethics/



 Rafael Ortiz


 On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org
 mailto:c...@laptop.org wrote:

 Hi Rafael,

Do we have now and individual contributor agreement or Individual
contributor license agreement for Sugar for Sugar Labs now ?

 No.  We don't know that we want one, and the SFLC hasn't responded to
 our question about whether it might be important.

 It still doesn't seem like a worthwhile idea to me.  Projects have an
 ICA when they're starting out and want to be sure to be able to enforce
 copyright on their work colletively, but Sugar's been around for a while
 and already has a mass of code that can't be retroactively covered by
 a license agreeement.  So, the main positive point isn't applicable,
 and the main negative point about it being a huge turn-off for new
 contributors is still there.

 Feel free to ask questions like this on iaep@, I don't think we're
 trying to keep the fact that we're considering an ICA private.

 - Chris.
 --
 Chris Ball   c...@laptop.org mailto:c...@laptop.org


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