Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] Motion (1 of 2) GSoC Stipends

2016-06-07 Thread Dave Crossland 
On 4 June 2016 at 08:08, Adam Holt  wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Tony Anderson  wrote:
>>
>> I second the motion and approve it.
>
>
> I hope we all work together to find a way to compromise, but in any case my
> opinion is already well-known, as stated a month ago:
>
> Mentors/tutors/teachers are insufficiently recognized, just like the
> Mentoring organization is insufficiently recognized.
>
> My personal belief is that *both* need to be recognized far more, likely
> starting equally with a 50/50 split or some such/similar distribution of
> funds, inspired by Lionel Laske's thoughtful articulation of the many social
> infrastructure / accounting infrastructure / mentoring infrastructure /
> constructionist infrastructure investments OLPC France has very successfully
> achieved.  Among many other organizational infrastructures (technology and
> non-technology community tools) backstopping the lives of
> volunteer-community-hackers-of-all-kind increasingly far easier, as we can
> do too!  Underlying a much stronger future for all~

I believe this is an 'abstain' vote, since it wasn't sent to the SLOBs list...?
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] Motion (1 of 2) GSoC Stipends

2016-06-06 Thread José Miguel García 
Motion regarding GSoC mentoring stipends

Motion: Whereas it is the general policy of Sugar Labs to retain all GSoC
mentoring stipends in the General Fund, if a mentor asks a GSoC Admin (for
example in 2016, Walter or Lionel) to pay a stipend to a mentor, their
share of the stipend amount will be disbursed without further motions to
approve the spending. The share is calculated from the total awarded for
the GSoC slot by Google, minus 10% (as all Sugar Labs income is donated to
Software Freedom Conservancy for organisational services), minus 5%
(retained for Sugar Labs General Funds),  divided by the number of mentors
for the project. For example, in a year with 6 slots and 10 mentors at
$500, the total revenue is $3,000; 10% for Conservancy is $300 and 5% for
Sugar Labs is $150, leaving a total of $2,550 or $255 per mentor.

+1 para secundar la moción
+1 para aprobarla


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2016-06-06 11:47 GMT-03:00 Walter Bender :

> +1 from me as well
>
> (I had reclused myself from voting on the earlier version of this motion
> due to a conflict of interest in that I am a potential recipient of the
> funds, but since I have said that I will not accept the funds for my
> personal use, I think it is OK to vote.)
>
> -walter
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Claudia Urrea  wrote:
>
>> + 1
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Tony Anderson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I second the motion and approve it.
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>> On 06/04/2016 03:02 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
>>>
>>> We did not have time to take action on two motions at yesterday's
>>> meeting. Please review the motion below. If an oversight board seconds the
>>> motion, then we can bring it up for a vote by email.
>>>
>>> regards.
>>>
>>> -walter
>>>
>>>
>>> Motion regarding GSoC mentoring stipends
>>>
>>> Motion: Whereas it is the general policy of Sugar Labs to retain all
>>> GSoC mentoring stipends in the General Fund, if a mentor asks a GSoC Admin
>>> (for example in 2016, Walter or Lionel) to pay a stipend to a mentor, their
>>> share of the stipend amount will be disbursed without further motions to
>>> approve the spending. The share is calculated from the total awarded for
>>> the GSoC slot by Google, minus 10% (as all Sugar Labs income is donated to
>>> Software Freedom Conservancy for organisational services), minus 5%
>>> (retained for Sugar Labs General Funds),  divided by the number of mentors
>>> for the project. For example, in a year with 6 slots and 10 mentors at
>>> $500, the total revenue is $3,000; 10% for Conservancy is $300 and 5% for
>>> Sugar Labs is $150, leaving a total of $2,550 or $255 per mentor.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Note that an earlier version of this motion failed:
>>>
>>> Failed Motion
>>>
>>> Motion: To allow the mentors participating in Google Summer of Code to
>>> disperse the mentor stipend among themselves as they see fit.
>>>
>>> Further discussion of this motion can be found beginning at [1].
>>>
>>> [1] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2016-May/018130.html
>>> --
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] Motion (1 of 2) GSoC Stipends

2016-06-06 Thread Walter Bender 
+1 from me as well

(I had reclused myself from voting on the earlier version of this motion
due to a conflict of interest in that I am a potential recipient of the
funds, but since I have said that I will not accept the funds for my
personal use, I think it is OK to vote.)

-walter

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Claudia Urrea  wrote:

> + 1
>
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Tony Anderson 
> wrote:
>
>> I second the motion and approve it.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On 06/04/2016 03:02 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
>>
>> We did not have time to take action on two motions at yesterday's
>> meeting. Please review the motion below. If an oversight board seconds the
>> motion, then we can bring it up for a vote by email.
>>
>> regards.
>>
>> -walter
>>
>>
>> Motion regarding GSoC mentoring stipends
>>
>> Motion: Whereas it is the general policy of Sugar Labs to retain all GSoC
>> mentoring stipends in the General Fund, if a mentor asks a GSoC Admin (for
>> example in 2016, Walter or Lionel) to pay a stipend to a mentor, their
>> share of the stipend amount will be disbursed without further motions to
>> approve the spending. The share is calculated from the total awarded for
>> the GSoC slot by Google, minus 10% (as all Sugar Labs income is donated to
>> Software Freedom Conservancy for organisational services), minus 5%
>> (retained for Sugar Labs General Funds),  divided by the number of mentors
>> for the project. For example, in a year with 6 slots and 10 mentors at
>> $500, the total revenue is $3,000; 10% for Conservancy is $300 and 5% for
>> Sugar Labs is $150, leaving a total of $2,550 or $255 per mentor.
>>
>> 
>>
>> Note that an earlier version of this motion failed:
>>
>> Failed Motion
>>
>> Motion: To allow the mentors participating in Google Summer of Code to
>> disperse the mentor stipend among themselves as they see fit.
>>
>> Further discussion of this motion can be found beginning at [1].
>>
>> [1] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2016-May/018130.html
>> --
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>> Sugar Labs
>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] Motion (1 of 2) GSoC Stipends

2016-06-06 Thread Claudia Urrea 
+ 1

On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Tony Anderson  wrote:

> I second the motion and approve it.
>
> Tony
>
>
> On 06/04/2016 03:02 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
>
> We did not have time to take action on two motions at yesterday's meeting.
> Please review the motion below. If an oversight board seconds the motion,
> then we can bring it up for a vote by email.
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
>
> Motion regarding GSoC mentoring stipends
>
> Motion: Whereas it is the general policy of Sugar Labs to retain all GSoC
> mentoring stipends in the General Fund, if a mentor asks a GSoC Admin (for
> example in 2016, Walter or Lionel) to pay a stipend to a mentor, their
> share of the stipend amount will be disbursed without further motions to
> approve the spending. The share is calculated from the total awarded for
> the GSoC slot by Google, minus 10% (as all Sugar Labs income is donated to
> Software Freedom Conservancy for organisational services), minus 5%
> (retained for Sugar Labs General Funds),  divided by the number of mentors
> for the project. For example, in a year with 6 slots and 10 mentors at
> $500, the total revenue is $3,000; 10% for Conservancy is $300 and 5% for
> Sugar Labs is $150, leaving a total of $2,550 or $255 per mentor.
>
> 
>
> Note that an earlier version of this motion failed:
>
> Failed Motion
>
> Motion: To allow the mentors participating in Google Summer of Code to
> disperse the mentor stipend among themselves as they see fit.
>
> Further discussion of this motion can be found beginning at [1].
>
> [1] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2016-May/018130.html
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] Motion (1 of 2) GSoC Stipends

2016-06-04 Thread Adam Holt 
On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Tony Anderson  wrote:

> I second the motion and approve it.
>

I hope we all work together to find a way to compromise, but in any case my
opinion is already well-known, as stated a month ago:

Mentors/tutors/teachers are insufficiently recognized, just like the
Mentoring organization is insufficiently recognized.

My personal belief is that *both* need to be recognized far more, likely
starting equally with a 50/50 split or some such/similar distribution of
funds, inspired by Lionel Laske's thoughtful articulation of the many
social infrastructure / accounting infrastructure / mentoring
infrastructure / constructionist infrastructure investments OLPC France has
very successfully achieved.  Among many other organizational
infrastructures (technology and non-technology community tools)
backstopping the lives of volunteer-community-hackers-of-all-kind
increasingly far easier, as we can do too!  Underlying a much stronger
future for all~

Tony
>
>
> On 06/04/2016 03:02 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
>
> We did not have time to take action on two motions at yesterday's meeting.
> Please review the motion below. If an oversight board seconds the motion,
> then we can bring it up for a vote by email.
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
>
> Motion regarding GSoC mentoring stipends
>
> Motion: Whereas it is the general policy of Sugar Labs to retain all GSoC
> mentoring stipends in the General Fund, if a mentor asks a GSoC Admin (for
> example in 2016, Walter or Lionel) to pay a stipend to a mentor, their
> share of the stipend amount will be disbursed without further motions to
> approve the spending. The share is calculated from the total awarded for
> the GSoC slot by Google, minus 10% (as all Sugar Labs income is donated to
> Software Freedom Conservancy for organisational services), minus 5%
> (retained for Sugar Labs General Funds),  divided by the number of mentors
> for the project. For example, in a year with 6 slots and 10 mentors at
> $500, the total revenue is $3,000; 10% for Conservancy is $300 and 5% for
> Sugar Labs is $150, leaving a total of $2,550 or $255 per mentor.
>
> 
>
> Note that an earlier version of this motion failed:
>
> Failed Motion
>
> Motion: To allow the mentors participating in Google Summer of Code to
> disperse the mentor stipend among themselves as they see fit.
>
> Further discussion of this motion can be found beginning at [1].
>
> [1] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2016-May/018130.html
> --
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> Sugar Labs
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