Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Teaching typing and basic math on the XO

2009-01-14 Thread Sascha Silbe

On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 07:20:05PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote:


If you have used TuxType, you will know that it's a simplistic typing
*practice game* and in no way teaches the user how to type.
I thought that's what you're looking for. How do you imagine a typing 
teaching activity to work?

What does the Typing Turtle activity that was mentioned look like?

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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Teaching typing and basic math on the XO

2009-01-04 Thread Wade Brainerd
I know Mavis has a simplified flash version on their website.

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Sascha Silbe 
sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote:

 On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 08:42:21PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote:

  I'm following the format used by programs like MicroType and Mavis Beacon
 Teaches Typing (what I personally learned on).  Both have demo versions
 for
 Windows available.

 Do you know where I could find some screenshots or similar showing the
 basic concept?
 I don't really fancy booting Windows and downloading a 380MB (!) demo.
 Otherwise...

  We are working towards an alpha in early January.. When it's ready I will
 announce it on the sugar list.

 ... I'll just wait for that one. :)


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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Teaching typing and basic math on the XO

2009-01-02 Thread Wade Brainerd
I'm following the format used by programs like MicroType and Mavis Beacon
Teaches Typing (what I personally learned on).  Both have demo versions for
Windows available.

TT will be simple compared with these programs, but they are the general
template.

We are working towards an alpha in early January.. When it's ready I will
announce it on the sugar list.

Cheers,
Wade

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Sascha Silbe 
sascha-ml-ui-sugar-su...@silbe.org wrote:

 On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 07:20:05PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote:

  If you have used TuxType, you will know that it's a simplistic typing
 *practice game* and in no way teaches the user how to type.

 I thought that's what you're looking for. How do you imagine a typing
 teaching activity to work?
 What does the Typing Turtle activity that was mentioned look like?

 CU Sascha

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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Teaching typing and basic math on the XO (was: Re: How to Make Activity Designers Happy , Parts I and II)

2009-01-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you have used TuxType, you will know that it's a simplistic typing
 *practice game* and in no way teaches the user how to type.

 That said, there are typing programs out there that could work.  I just
 wanted to make a nice one for Sugar.

Learning to type in Indic writing systems, including Devanagari for
Nepali, is much easier than learning any Latin-alphabet keyboard. It
took me a month to switch from QWERTY to Dvorak, but only two days to
be able to type in Sanskrit (though not as fast).

The consonants are laid out in a logical order based on the work of
the ancient Sanskrit grammarians, with each of labial, dental,
retroflex, palatal, and velar consonant families having its own
column. Almost all vowels are under the left hand, and consonants
under the right hand. Orthography is extremely regular. Some of the
rules of English may not apply, such as word division. There is no
capitalization. Each of the Indic keyboard layouts is very similar to
all of the others.

I would like to get hold of Omar Khayyam Moore's Edison Talking
Typewriter program and rewrite it in a modern programming language. It
ran on an IBM 360 and taught three-year-olds to read and write on a
Selectric terminal with very little human intervention required.

 -Wade

 On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Sascha Silbe
 sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote:

 On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 12:10:09PM -0800, Bryan Berry wrote:

 The Typing Turtle will be immensely useful and immensely popular in
 Nepal. A typing tutor is one of the most frequently requested programs
 by the Nepali kids and teachers alike. Thanks alot to Wade for working
 on it.

 Have you tried TuxType/TuxTyping [1] and (a recent version of) TuxMath?
 There's no XO bundle for them yet, but if they fit your needs, you might
 try asking Albert Calahan. He seems to have done the TuxPaint [2] bundle
 [3,5] (all three programs are from the same project - Tux4Kids [4]).


 [1] http://tuxtype.sourceforge.net/
 [2] http://www.tuxpaint.org/
 [3] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Tux_Paint
 [4] http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org/
 [5] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/All

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