Re: [IAEP] Any ideas how to make an image with a transparent background inSugar?

2009-10-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg

About how to get the drawing out of Etoys:

Drag-and-drop it into the Sugar Frame's clipboard, or just press Ctrl- 
C when its halo is showing.


Then either insert into the activity you want directly by drag-and- 
drop or Ctrl-V (if the activity supports that), or store the clipping  
in the Journal via its Frame clipboard icon menu.


- Bert -

On 02.10.2009, at 04:30, Alan Kay wrote:


Hi Caroline

I think what you want to do is to take that picture of the  
caterpillar and erase all but the caterpillar?


To do that you want to repaint the picture (it is already an image).

First get the halos (which every object in Etoys will show) by  
right clicking on the picture.


 There is balloon help on most things in Etoys, and  
each halo handle will say what it does.


   For example, to duplicate your picture, drag  
on the green button in the upper right corner. A duplicate copy will  
drag off.


   To put something in the trash, click on the  
move to trash handle in the upper left corner.


-- To repaint, click on the repaint handle on the right side, mid  
height.


  There is help about most things in Etoys under the  
? on the Sugar menu bar.


For doing your task, I like to choose no color in the paint  
palette (it's the bar over the color rainbow). Then I will choose  
various sizes of the circular brushes to do the work of removing the  
background. The Undo in the paint box will undo one whole stroke.


When done, click on Keep in the paint box. If you want to start  
over, click on Toss.


You now have a picture of the caterpillar with transparent fill  
around it.


The PNG format (a standard open source format) will allow the  
picture to be filed with the transparent fill preserved.


I'm presuming that the reverse of the process you used to get the  
image into Etoys will get it back to where you want to use it.


For a nice way to animate a wriggling caterpillar, you can also look  
at the example in Sdenka Salas' recent book of the XO in Peru.


Don't hesitate to ask more questions.

Best wishes,

Alan

From: Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com
To: Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com
Cc: iaep iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 6:41:26 PM
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Any ideas how to make an image with a  
transparent background inSugar?


Thanks Alan,

Where should I look to figure out Etoys paint. I'm stuck and there  
is no kid here to teach me!


http://screencast.com/t/4lvde8qWV2pD

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote:
Paint it in Etoys, save as a .PNG picture

Cheers,

Alan

From: Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com
To: iaep iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 6:28:22 PM
Subject: [IAEP] Any ideas how to make an image with a transparent  
background inSugar?


http://screencast.com/t/K0lH5L7tsBU

I am trying to make a new character for cartoon builder. The video  
explains my goals.
Basically I want to take a picture and cut out just the caterpillar  
and have it be cropped/transparent background.


thanks,
Caroline

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carol...@solutiongrove.com

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Re: [IAEP] Any ideas how to make an image with a transparent background inSugar?

2009-10-02 Thread Caroline Meeks
Thanks Alan and Bert!
I have made progress. My next problem is that my caterpillar is too big!
Even when I resize cartoon builder still wants to make it full sized.

http://screencast.com/t/MH1XZmd27s

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 3:26 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.dewrote:

 About how to get the drawing out of Etoys:

 Drag-and-drop it into the Sugar Frame's clipboard, or just press Ctrl-C
 when its halo is showing.

 Then either insert into the activity you want directly by drag-and-drop or
 Ctrl-V (if the activity supports that), or store the clipping in the Journal
 via its Frame clipboard icon menu.

 - Bert -
 On 02.10.2009, at 04:30, Alan Kay wrote:

  Hi Caroline

 I think what you want to do is to take that picture of the caterpillar and
 erase all but the caterpillar?

 To do that you want to repaint the picture (it is already an image).

 First get the halos (which every object in Etoys will show) by right
 clicking on the picture.

  There is balloon help on most things in Etoys, and each
 halo handle will say what it does.

For example, to duplicate your picture, drag on the
 green button in the upper right corner. A duplicate copy will drag off.

To put something in the trash, click on the move to
 trash handle in the upper left corner.

 -- To repaint, click on the repaint handle on the right side, mid
 height.

   There is help about most things in Etoys under the ? on
 the Sugar menu bar.

 For doing your task, I like to choose no color in the paint palette (it's
 the bar over the color rainbow). Then I will choose various sizes of the
 circular brushes to do the work of removing the background. The Undo in
 the paint box will undo one whole stroke.

 When done, click on Keep in the paint box. If you want to start over,
 click on Toss.

 You now have a picture of the caterpillar with transparent fill around it.


 The PNG format (a standard open source format) will allow the picture to be
 filed with the transparent fill preserved.

 I'm presuming that the reverse of the process you used to get the image
 into Etoys will get it back to where you want to use it.

 For a nice way to animate a wriggling caterpillar, you can also look at the
 example in Sdenka Salas' recent book of the XO in Peru.

 Don't hesitate to ask more questions.

 Best wishes,

 Alan

 --
 *From:* Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com
 *To:* Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com
 *Cc:* iaep iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
 *Sent:* Thursday, October 1, 2009 6:41:26 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [IAEP] Any ideas how to make an image with a transparent
 background inSugar?

 Thanks Alan,
 Where should I look to figure out Etoys paint. I'm stuck and there is no
 kid here to teach me!

 http://screencast.com/t/4lvde8qWV2pD

 On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Paint it in Etoys, save as a .PNG picture

 Cheers,

 Alan

 --
 *From:* Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com
 *To:* iaep iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
 *Sent:* Thursday, October 1, 2009 6:28:22 PM
 *Subject:* [IAEP] Any ideas how to make an image with a transparent
 background inSugar?

 http://screencast.com/t/K0lH5L7tsBU
 I am trying to make a new character for cartoon builder. The video
 explains my goals.
 Basically I want to take a picture and cut out just the caterpillar and
 have it be cropped/transparent background.

 thanks,
 Caroline

 --
 Caroline Meeks
 Solution Grove
 carol...@solutiongrove.com

 617-500-3488 - Office
 505-213-3268 - Fax




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 Solution Grove
 carol...@solutiongrove.com

 617-500-3488 - Office
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[IAEP] Any ideas how to make an image with a transparent background inSugar?

2009-10-01 Thread Caroline Meeks
http://screencast.com/t/K0lH5L7tsBU
I am trying to make a new character for cartoon builder. The video explains
my goals.
Basically I want to take a picture and cut out just the caterpillar and have
it be cropped/transparent background.

thanks,
Caroline

-- 
Caroline Meeks
Solution Grove
carol...@solutiongrove.com

617-500-3488 - Office
505-213-3268 - Fax
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Re: [IAEP] Any ideas how to make an image with a transparent background inSugar?

2009-10-01 Thread Caroline Meeks
Thanks Alan,
Where should I look to figure out Etoys paint. I'm stuck and there is no kid
here to teach me!

http://screencast.com/t/4lvde8qWV2pD

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Paint it in Etoys, save as a .PNG picture

 Cheers,

 Alan

 --
 *From:* Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com
 *To:* iaep iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
 *Sent:* Thursday, October 1, 2009 6:28:22 PM
 *Subject:* [IAEP] Any ideas how to make an image with a transparent
 background inSugar?

 http://screencast.com/t/K0lH5L7tsBU
 I am trying to make a new character for cartoon builder. The video explains
 my goals.
 Basically I want to take a picture and cut out just the caterpillar and
 have it be cropped/transparent background.

 thanks,
 Caroline

 --
 Caroline Meeks
 Solution Grove
 carol...@solutiongrove.com

 617-500-3488 - Office
 505-213-3268 - Fax




-- 
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Solution Grove
carol...@solutiongrove.com

617-500-3488 - Office
505-213-3268 - Fax
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Re: [IAEP] Any ideas how to make an image with a transparent background inSugar?

2009-10-01 Thread Alan Kay
Hi Caroline

I think what you want to do is to take that picture of the caterpillar and 
erase all but the caterpillar?

To do that you want to repaint the picture (it is already an image).

First get the halos (which every object in Etoys will show) by right clicking 
on the picture.

 There is balloon help on most things in Etoys, and each halo 
handle will say what it does.

   For example, to duplicate your picture, drag on the 
green button in the upper right corner. A duplicate copy will drag off.

   To put something in the trash, click on the move to 
trash handle in the upper left corner.

-- To repaint, click on the repaint handle on the right side, mid height.

  There is help about most things in Etoys under the ? on the 
Sugar menu bar.

For doing your task, I like to choose no color in the paint palette (it's the 
bar over the color rainbow). Then I will choose various sizes of the circular 
brushes to do the work of removing the background. The Undo in the paint box 
will undo one whole stroke.

When done, click on Keep in the paint box. If you want to start over, click 
on Toss.

You now have a picture of the caterpillar with transparent fill around it. 

The PNG format (a standard open source format) will allow the picture to be 
filed with the transparent fill preserved.

I'm presuming that the reverse of the process you used to get the image into 
Etoys will get it back to where you want to use it.

For a nice way to animate a wriggling caterpillar, you can also look at the 
example in Sdenka Salas' recent book of the XO in Peru.

Don't hesitate to ask more questions.

Best wishes,

Alan





From: Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com
To: Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com
Cc: iaep iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 6:41:26 PM
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Any ideas how to make an image with a transparent  
background inSugar?

Thanks Alan,

Where should I look to figure out Etoys paint. I'm stuck and there is no kid 
here to teach me!

http://screencast.com/t/4lvde8qWV2pD


On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote:


Paint it in Etoys, save as a .PNG picture

Cheers,

Alan





From: Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com
To: iaep iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 6:28:22 PM
Subject: [IAEP] Any ideas how to make an image with a transparent background 
inSugar?


http://screencast.com/t/K0lH5L7tsBU


I am trying to make a new character for cartoon builder. The video explains my 
goals.

Basically I want to take a picture and cut out just the caterpillar and have 
it be cropped/transparent background.


thanks,
Caroline

-- 
Caroline Meeks
Solution Grove
carol...@solutiongrove.com

617-500-3488 - Office
505-213-3268 - Fax




-- 
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Solution Grove
carol...@solutiongrove.com

617-500-3488 - Office
505-213-3268 - Fax



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