Re: [IAEP] Color combos for the logo
David Farning wrote: > Design is going to be a interesting aspects of the project. How do we > engage artistic individuals, who often crave freedom and creativity, > to help Eben and Christian make _their_ vision a reality? +1 While this project is run as a democratic community, building a consistent public image requires following the vision of fewer individuals with a strong design background. Christian and Eben seem to be those we have elected to do it, therefore I'd consider their judgment final (or close to). -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://www.codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://www.sugarlabs.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Color combos for the logo
On 12/5/08 4:06 PM, "Jameson Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> >> While the logo concept is based on the treatment of icons in the Sugar >> interface, my initial feeling was that we should restrict the color >> combinations to only a few carefully chosen ones, both for recognizability >> and optimal control. > > I agree on the limited choices, but would like to see the center color vary > across the choices, as on the XO. Sure, I can explore this. >> >> Color aside, I don't believe the logo should be altered in any other way. >> The change in color in itself is enough variation, and we need to pin down >> other variables to maintain a degree of consistency. > > I think that there should be two versions: sugarlabs is the organization, > sugar is the product. Yes, I agree. > > Also, when I requested the SVG for mashups, I did not mean altering it, I > meant things like rotating it and including it in larger graphics. Putting it > on the screen of a laptop, for instance. I still think that an open source > project should have an open source - vector - logo. Now I understand. Sure, I can provide SVGs, if that is the format of choice. More soon, Christian > > Jameson > > -- Christian Marc Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pentagram Design, Inc. 204 Fifth Avenue New York, NY 10010 212/ 802 0248 ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Color combos for the logo
> > > While the logo concept is based on the treatment of icons in the Sugar > interface, my initial feeling was that we should restrict the color > combinations to only a few carefully chosen ones, both for recognizability > and optimal control. I agree on the limited choices, but would like to see the center color vary across the choices, as on the XO. > > Color aside, I don't believe the logo should be altered in any other way. > The change in color in itself is enough variation, and we need to pin down > other variables to maintain a degree of consistency. I think that there should be two versions: sugarlabs is the organization, sugar is the product. Also, when I requested the SVG for mashups, I did not mean altering it, I meant things like rotating it and including it in larger graphics. Putting it on the screen of a laptop, for instance. I still think that an open source project should have an open source - vector - logo. Jameson ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Color combos for the logo
Thanks, David, and everyone else for your input on the Sugar Labs logo. Based on this conversation, I'll plan on documenting the design intent behind the logo on the wiki this weekend. While the logo concept is based on the treatment of icons in the Sugar interface, my initial feeling was that we should restrict the color combinations to only a few carefully chosen ones, both for recognizability and optimal control. I could, however, also see doing a full spectrum of color options, and it sounds like that is where the consensus is headed. I still think that each combination should be manually created, so we don't run into any contrast/legibility issues. I'll try this concept and run it by the group. There will also be usage guidelines, as I mentioned before, entailing in what context a particular color combination should be used. Color aside, I don't believe the logo should be altered in any other way. The change in color in itself is enough variation, and we need to pin down other variables to maintain a degree of consistency. More soon... Christian On 12/5/08 1:21 PM, "David Farning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 5 Dec 2008, at 07:00, Bernie Innocenti wrote: >> >>> Gary C Martin wrote: Uploaded 4 more colours (red, yellow, brown, purple), feel free to remove/overwrite if they are not what was intended (I tried to stick to similar saturation and just hit different hues). http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Logo BTW: is there a design brief for this somewhere? Like: is the inner blue a requirement, or could that be inverted (e.g. variable colour inside, blue outline), or can perhaps both colours be varied, what about black/white (for print), etc, etc. >>> >>> I thought we were just imitating the color pairs or the XO guy, thus >>> both colors should vary. >> >> Yea that's what I thought too, but didn't see that formally stated >> anywhere. The concept of contrasting colour pairs as individual >> identity was/is a strong, unique design element (of the Sugar UI), >> seems to make sense to bring that forward into the Sugar branding >> (using different colour variations suggested the diverse community of >> individuals behind Sugar). > > Design is going to be a interesting aspects of the project. How do we > engage artistic individuals, who often crave freedom and creativity, > to help Eben and Christian make _their_ vision a reality? > > david > >>> But let's hear what Christian thinks a bout it. >> >> OK, will do. >> >> --Gary >> >>> For our Gitorious instance, I came up with this logo idea: >>> >>> http://git.sugarlabs.org/ >>> >>> Yes, these colors don't match well with the background or perhaps with >>> each other... Dammit Jim, I'm a programmer, not a painter! >>> >>> -- >>> // Bernie Innocenti - http://www.codewiz.org/ >>> \X/ Sugar Labs - http://www.sugarlabs.org/ >> >> ___ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> -- Christian Marc Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pentagram Design, Inc. 204 Fifth Avenue New York, NY 10010 212/ 802 0248 ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Color combos for the logo
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5 Dec 2008, at 07:00, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > >> Gary C Martin wrote: >>> Uploaded 4 more colours (red, yellow, brown, purple), feel free to >>> remove/overwrite if they are not what was intended (I tried to >>> stick to >>> similar saturation and just hit different hues). >>> >>>http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Logo >>> >>> BTW: is there a design brief for this somewhere? Like: is the inner >>> blue >>> a requirement, or could that be inverted (e.g. variable colour >>> inside, >>> blue outline), or can perhaps both colours be varied, what about >>> black/white (for print), etc, etc. >> >> I thought we were just imitating the color pairs or the XO guy, thus >> both colors should vary. > > Yea that's what I thought too, but didn't see that formally stated > anywhere. The concept of contrasting colour pairs as individual > identity was/is a strong, unique design element (of the Sugar UI), > seems to make sense to bring that forward into the Sugar branding > (using different colour variations suggested the diverse community of > individuals behind Sugar). Design is going to be a interesting aspects of the project. How do we engage artistic individuals, who often crave freedom and creativity, to help Eben and Christian make _their_ vision a reality? david >> But let's hear what Christian thinks a bout it. > > OK, will do. > > --Gary > >> For our Gitorious instance, I came up with this logo idea: >> >> http://git.sugarlabs.org/ >> >> Yes, these colors don't match well with the background or perhaps with >> each other... Dammit Jim, I'm a programmer, not a painter! >> >> -- >> // Bernie Innocenti - http://www.codewiz.org/ >> \X/ Sugar Labs - http://www.sugarlabs.org/ > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Color combos for the logo
On 5 Dec 2008, at 07:00, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Gary C Martin wrote: >> Uploaded 4 more colours (red, yellow, brown, purple), feel free to >> remove/overwrite if they are not what was intended (I tried to >> stick to >> similar saturation and just hit different hues). >> >>http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Logo >> >> BTW: is there a design brief for this somewhere? Like: is the inner >> blue >> a requirement, or could that be inverted (e.g. variable colour >> inside, >> blue outline), or can perhaps both colours be varied, what about >> black/white (for print), etc, etc. > > I thought we were just imitating the color pairs or the XO guy, thus > both colors should vary. Yea that's what I thought too, but didn't see that formally stated anywhere. The concept of contrasting colour pairs as individual identity was/is a strong, unique design element (of the Sugar UI), seems to make sense to bring that forward into the Sugar branding (using different colour variations suggested the diverse community of individuals behind Sugar). > But let's hear what Christian thinks a bout it. OK, will do. --Gary > For our Gitorious instance, I came up with this logo idea: > > http://git.sugarlabs.org/ > > Yes, these colors don't match well with the background or perhaps with > each other... Dammit Jim, I'm a programmer, not a painter! > > -- > // Bernie Innocenti - http://www.codewiz.org/ > \X/ Sugar Labs - http://www.sugarlabs.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Color combos for the logo
Hi Bernie and Gary Thanks for your enthusiasm, but there were actually only intended to be four carefully chosen colors of the logo. Like the gray, the blue in the logo interior stays constant in all four iterations. Also, I am working on a document that outlines usage on white and black backgrounds: on black, ideally the interior/exterior colors would be inverted. So with that, we would end up with 8 logo variations altogether. I could look for more color variations if that's what everybody wants, but I'd caution against too many as not to undermine the recognizability of the mark and our ability to control how it is used. Christian _ From: Bernie Innocenti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gary C Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: iaep [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Christian Marc Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:00:34 -0500 Subject: Re: [IAEP] Color combos for the logo Gary C Martin wrote: > Uploaded 4 more colours (red, yellow, brown, purple), feel free to > remove/overwrite if they are not what was intended (I tried to stick to > similar saturation and just hit different hues). > > http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Logo > > BTW: is there a design brief for this somewhere? Like: is the inner blue > a requirement, or could that be inverted (e.g. variable colour inside, > blue outline), or can perhaps both colours be varied, what about > black/white (for print), etc, etc. I thought we were just imitating the color pairs or the XO guy, thus both colors should vary. But let's hear what Christian thinks a bout it. For our Gitorious instance, I came up with this logo idea: http://git.sugarlabs.org/ Yes, these colors don't match well with the background or perhaps with each other... Dammit Jim, I'm a programmer, not a painter! -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://www.codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://www.sugarlabs.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Color combos for the logo
Gary C Martin wrote: > Uploaded 4 more colours (red, yellow, brown, purple), feel free to > remove/overwrite if they are not what was intended (I tried to stick to > similar saturation and just hit different hues). > > http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Logo > > BTW: is there a design brief for this somewhere? Like: is the inner blue > a requirement, or could that be inverted (e.g. variable colour inside, > blue outline), or can perhaps both colours be varied, what about > black/white (for print), etc, etc. I thought we were just imitating the color pairs or the XO guy, thus both colors should vary. But let's hear what Christian thinks a bout it. For our Gitorious instance, I came up with this logo idea: http://git.sugarlabs.org/ Yes, these colors don't match well with the background or perhaps with each other... Dammit Jim, I'm a programmer, not a painter! -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://www.codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://www.sugarlabs.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Color combos for the logo
Uploaded 4 more colours (red, yellow, brown, purple), feel free to remove/overwrite if they are not what was intended (I tried to stick to similar saturation and just hit different hues). http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Logo BTW: is there a design brief for this somewhere? Like: is the inner blue a requirement, or could that be inverted (e.g. variable colour inside, blue outline), or can perhaps both colours be varied, what about black/white (for print), etc, etc. Regards, --Gary On 4 Dec 2008, at 08:58, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Ciao, > > I was wondering if someone could upload more bitmaps of the logo in > different color combos: > > http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Logo > > The idea was to use a different one every time, so we should have a > bit more choice when we need to quickly pick one for a new web site. > Please, use the same resolution (2997x646), depth and format of the > existing ones. > > -- > // Bernie Innocenti - http://www.codewiz.org/ > \X/ Sugar Labs - http://www.sugarlabs.org/ > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Color combos for the logo
Ciao, I was wondering if someone could upload more bitmaps of the logo in different color combos: http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Logo The idea was to use a different one every time, so we should have a bit more choice when we need to quickly pick one for a new web site. Please, use the same resolution (2997x646), depth and format of the existing ones. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://www.codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://www.sugarlabs.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
