Re: [IAEP] Homework turn-in without server (was: Re: Data vs Critical Thinking - Can Sugar give schools both?)

2010-04-23 Thread Gerald Ardito
Sascha,

Speaking as a teacher, this workflow seems really good.

Gerald

On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Sascha Silbe 
sascha-ml-ui-sugar-i...@silbe.org wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:18:14AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:

  On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 02:08, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@gmail.com wrote:

 In the context of Sugar we need a simple way to students to send their
 work
 to the teacher and a simple way to the teacher to group these works, and
 follow the progress.
 Can we start with it?


 You mean something that works without a server such as Moodle?

 If so, I think we should start by thinking who is going to review and
 stabilize that work, as we are getting very short of maintainers.

 Maybe we should start by designing a work flow / UI for this? I believe the
 actual code changes could be fairly small and easily reviewed if done right.

 If we transfer metadata during file transfer (Journal Send To feature)
 as suggested in #1344 [1], we have everything needed for the most basic
 workflow:

 1. Student opens completed work in Journal details view.
 2. Student adds tags as instructed by the teacher (e.g. Class-6a homework
 bees).
 3. Student uses Send To name of teacher.
 4. Teacher accepts file transfer.
 5. Teacher opens Journal and uses full text search with the given tags.
 6. Teacher annotates the work (either inline or (ab)using the description
 field).
 7. Teacher uses Send To name of student.
 8. Student accepts file transfer.


 There are obviously quite a few ways to improve on this workflow, but we
 can get there step by step with incremental, self-contained changes that are
 easy enough to review.


 [1] https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1344

 CU Sascha

 --
 http://sascha.silbe.org/
 http://www.infra-silbe.de/
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
 Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)

 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJL0YlXAAoJELpz82VMF3DaCfkH/1ZEPp9HBAmg98TjuwbQZtT1
 ZTMEXchIGEWl2ZoTJj0+B5s5v1/6fkTsA2YgfC8E2NizL0xowrv+VmpNkNE3yarw
 nlyhPVfRgWqSdQa39ux+O2pWv+dWX5dgLd2R653t6/8tdsgOaNLtEQT1iL10kLg4
 K6ht4QzK7xNN5aMRhHOezMcmG2U8vhMBAhxb1P2gP2ESrWtGTSnqqjmeRy3S4qr4
 EVyDysnX94BNQqjsNkk2qjCceQt5R/Dzdpk9eeJT4ipfc+zRpF+DXJNvY/LlE6Zv
 uEzFNEP2IlshBHVFoevDhGI3r/rAKpFY1R2siL9W+0RTryXXwpneQ4gPS7k+yPA=
 =EHSi
 -END PGP SIGNATURE-

 ___
 IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
 IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
 http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

___
IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] Homework turn-in without server (was: Re: Data vs Critical Thinking - Can Sugar give schools both?)

2010-04-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 14:58, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sascha,

 Speaking as a teacher, this workflow seems really good.

Sounds like a great approach to me, then. Though would be good to have
some discussion on the HCI side of it.

Regards,

Tomeu

 Gerald

 On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Sascha Silbe
 sascha-ml-ui-sugar-i...@silbe.org wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:18:14AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 02:08, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@gmail.com wrote:

 In the context of Sugar we need a simple way to students to send their
 work
 to the teacher and a simple way to the teacher to group these works, and
 follow the progress.
 Can we start with it?

 You mean something that works without a server such as Moodle?

 If so, I think we should start by thinking who is going to review and
 stabilize that work, as we are getting very short of maintainers.

 Maybe we should start by designing a work flow / UI for this? I believe
 the actual code changes could be fairly small and easily reviewed if done
 right.

 If we transfer metadata during file transfer (Journal Send To feature)
 as suggested in #1344 [1], we have everything needed for the most basic
 workflow:

 1. Student opens completed work in Journal details view.
 2. Student adds tags as instructed by the teacher (e.g. Class-6a homework
 bees).
 3. Student uses Send To name of teacher.
 4. Teacher accepts file transfer.
 5. Teacher opens Journal and uses full text search with the given tags.
 6. Teacher annotates the work (either inline or (ab)using the
 description field).
 7. Teacher uses Send To name of student.
 8. Student accepts file transfer.


 There are obviously quite a few ways to improve on this workflow, but we
 can get there step by step with incremental, self-contained changes that are
 easy enough to review.


 [1] https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1344

 CU Sascha

 --
 http://sascha.silbe.org/
 http://www.infra-silbe.de/
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
 Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)

 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJL0YlXAAoJELpz82VMF3DaCfkH/1ZEPp9HBAmg98TjuwbQZtT1
 ZTMEXchIGEWl2ZoTJj0+B5s5v1/6fkTsA2YgfC8E2NizL0xowrv+VmpNkNE3yarw
 nlyhPVfRgWqSdQa39ux+O2pWv+dWX5dgLd2R653t6/8tdsgOaNLtEQT1iL10kLg4
 K6ht4QzK7xNN5aMRhHOezMcmG2U8vhMBAhxb1P2gP2ESrWtGTSnqqjmeRy3S4qr4
 EVyDysnX94BNQqjsNkk2qjCceQt5R/Dzdpk9eeJT4ipfc+zRpF+DXJNvY/LlE6Zv
 uEzFNEP2IlshBHVFoevDhGI3r/rAKpFY1R2siL9W+0RTryXXwpneQ4gPS7k+yPA=
 =EHSi
 -END PGP SIGNATURE-

 ___
 IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
 IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
 http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep


 ___
 IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
 IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
 http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

___
IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep