Re: [IAEP] It's a book!

2012-12-22 Thread Chris Leonard
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:

 Yes, I mean the book itself.

 I am involved in Debian, where we go by a principle that code and
 documentation must be Free not only in its binary (i.e. consumer) form
 but also its source.

The source of the book is available along with many others related
to OLPC / Sugar via the FLOSSmanuals website.  The earlier bad link
error has been corrected.

http://en.flossmanuals.net/

http://en.flossmanuals.net/learning-with-etoys-imagine-invent-inspire/

Several of the new books there (including this eToys book) were
generated during the recent Google Docs Camp.

https://lwn.net/Articles/528730/

Rita should certainly look at correcting the bad booki link you
mentioned, but FYI, booki is the name of a book authoring toolkit that
you can read about here:

http://en.flossmanuals.net/booki-user-guide/

cjl
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[IAEP] It's a book!

2012-12-21 Thread Rita Freudenberg
A New Etoys Book is available:

Learning with Etoys  Imagine, Invent, Insprire

After participating in a Doc Camp at Google, the Etoys EducationTeam is happy 
to announce a new book.

Read It: Learn various ways Etoys can be used in the classroom.
Use It: Adapt it for your learners.
Share It: Tell others about it and help us spread the word.

Available for download at:

http://wiki.squeakland.org/index.php/LearningWithEtoysI3

We would love your feedback or your contributions to our next volume.

The Etoys Education Team 

Rita Freudenberg
r...@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de



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Re: [IAEP] It's a book!

2012-12-21 Thread Dr. Gerald Ardito
Rita, et. al.

Thanks for this great work!

Gerald


On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Rita Freudenberg 
r...@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de wrote:

 A New Etoys Book is available:

 Learning with Etoys  Imagine, Invent, Insprire

 After participating in a Doc Camp at Google, the Etoys EducationTeam is
 happy to announce a new book.

 Read It: Learn various ways Etoys can be used in the classroom.
 Use It: Adapt it for your learners.
 Share It: Tell others about it and help us spread the word.

 Available for download at:

 http://wiki.squeakland.org/index.php/LearningWithEtoysI3

 We would love your feedback or your contributions to our next volume.

 The Etoys Education Team

 Rita Freudenberg
 r...@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de



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Re: [IAEP] It's a book!

2012-12-21 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Rita Freudenberg (2012-12-21 17:50:14)
 A New Etoys Book is available:
 
 Learning with Etoys  Imagine, Invent, Insprire
 
 After participating in a Doc Camp at Google, the Etoys EducationTeam 
 is happy to announce a new book.
 
 Read It: Learn various ways Etoys can be used in the classroom.
 Use It: Adapt it for your learners.
 Share It: Tell others about it and help us spread the word.
 
 Available for download at:
 
 http://wiki.squeakland.org/index.php/LearningWithEtoysI3
 
 We would love your feedback or your contributions to our next volume.

Wauw - really exciting!  And freely licensed!

I am curious about sources for the book - are those freely and openly
available too?  It seems you do not mention source location, neither at
the web page nor inside the PDF.

The final URL in the pdf - http://software.booki.cc - seems to not work.


Regards,

 - Jonas

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Re: [IAEP] It's a book!

2012-12-21 Thread Chris Leonard
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:

 Wauw - really exciting!  And freely licensed!

 I am curious about sources for the book - are those freely and openly
 available too?  It seems you do not mention source location, neither at
 the web page nor inside the PDF.


By sources for the book are you talking about the book file itself
or the example projects?

many of the example projects appear to be hosted at

http://etoysillinois.org/library

cjl
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Re: [IAEP] It's a book!

2012-12-21 Thread David Corking
This is really exciting. Thank you so much to the Education team. What
a fantastic Christmas present to the world. It joins a big family of
Booki free books for Sugar.

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Chris Leonard wrote on the IAEP list
(in reply to Jonas Smedegaard):

 I am curious about sources for the book - are those freely and openly
 available too?
...
 If you mean the book itself, it looks like there is a little problem
 with the link on this page:

 http://en.flossmanuals.net/

 bad link
 http://en.flossmanuals.net/learning-with-etoys-imagine-invent-inspire/

The link seems to be fixed now (at least it works for me.)

David
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Re: [IAEP] It's a book!

2012-12-21 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Chris Leonard (2012-12-21 20:04:37)
 On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Chris Leonard 
 cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk 
  wrote:
 
  Wauw - really exciting!  And freely licensed!
 
  I am curious about sources for the book - are those freely and 
  openly available too?  It seems you do not mention source location, 
  neither at the web page nor inside the PDF.
 
 
  By sources for the book are you talking about the book file itself 
  or the example projects?
 
  many of the example projects appear to be hosted at
 
  http://etoysillinois.org/library
 
  cjl
 
 
 If you mean the book itself, it looks like there is a little problem 
 with the link on this page:
 
 http://en.flossmanuals.net/
 
 bad link
 http://en.flossmanuals.net/learning-with-etoys-imagine-invent-inspire/
 
 Error
 This page does not exist. Book
 request=learning-with-etoys-imagine-invent-inspire Chapter
 request=index

Yes, I mean the book itself.

I am involved in Debian, where we go by a principle that code and 
documentation must be Free not only in its binary (i.e. consumer) form 
but also its source.

It is not satisfactory that some kind of source can be derived from 
the binary (e.g. reverse engineering, screen-scraping etc.) but that 
the preferred source format of the authors is made available.

By no means to I mean to impose this principle must apply to this book.  
But I am curious _if_ it does apply, because then I have the opportunity 
of getting the book included with Debian, and that way also included 
with Skolelinux, which I am sure would be quite appreciated and used.


Hope that makes sense.

Regards,

 - Jonas

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Re: [IAEP] It's a book!

2012-12-21 Thread Steve Thomas
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:

 Quoting Chris Leonard (2012-12-21 20:04:37)
  On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Chris Leonard
  cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk
   wrote:
  
   Wauw - really exciting!  And freely licensed!
  
   I am curious about sources for the book - are those freely and
   openly available too?  It seems you do not mention source location,
   neither at the web page nor inside the PDF.
  
  
   By sources for the book are you talking about the book file itself
   or the example projects?

 Yes, I mean the book itself.

 I am involved in Debian, where we go by a principle that code and
 documentation must be Free not only in its binary (i.e. consumer) form
 but also its source.

 It is not satisfactory that some kind of source can be derived from
 the binary (e.g. reverse engineering, screen-scraping etc.) but that
 the preferred source format of the authors is made available.

 By no means to I mean to impose this principle must apply to this book.
 But I am curious _if_ it does apply, because then I have the opportunity
 of getting the book included with Debian, and that way also included
 with Skolelinux, which I am sure would be quite appreciated and used.


Yes its free and we would love to see the book and Etoys n Skolelinux.
The beauty of Etoys is all the source is available and you can look at it
and modify it right inside Etoys.

Cheers,
Stephen
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