Re: [IAEP] On being bullied and harassed

2017-09-22 Thread Sebastian Silva


On 22/09/17 17:42, James Cameron wrote:
> (...)
> So I'll try that.
Thanks for your sincere, candid message. I hope to express myself with
the same, although English is not my mother tongue.
> Laura and Sebastian, by your rate of posting and Wiki editing, by your
> use of many paths to achieve your goals; I'm feeling bullied,
> harassed, uncomfortable and threatened.
I respect your feelings. I must be missing something. The size of the
feelings you want us to be responsible for doesn't seem proportional to
our actions.

I've observed online discussions often become distorted or polarized. I
believe it is because our brains are not wired
 for it. Please take a
minute to consider things in their real proportion. I can see you are
under stress, as you've planned to release very soon. I can only imagine
this, we don't have all the information to understand your situation.

Maybe you don't understand our perspective either. That's should be
alright. It should be safe to have different ideas and nobody should
feel hurt. It is important that the Sugar Labs community is welcoming
and I have worked on improving
 our Code of Conduct
for there to be specific actions that a person can take if they feel
they've been mistreated, as well as guidelines with respect to
acceptable and unacceptable behaviour, and consequences for transgressors.

Please review the linked wiki page as we should work together to improve
both the process and the tone of our debates. This is important. We can
keep the dialogue flowing on the discussion page

to work it into a motion.

> (...)
> Thanks for listening.
>
>
> (In reply to an abuse report, GitHub support suggested it was a
> dispute between contractors, which is one way to look at it;
> competitive behaviour, acquisition of mind share.  My work for OLPC
> could be seen in that framing, but to me it is human rights and global
> mission focused.  I'll let the community discern my motivations based
> on my actions.  Cooperation should have a higher reward than
> competition.)
>
Do not consider us competition, and please know that we appreciate the
work that you do. Please know we too have good intentions.

Complaining to Github doesn't seem appropriate or fair, I've given my
reasons and you've not commented.
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[IAEP] On being bullied and harassed

2017-09-22 Thread James Cameron
Yesterday after our design meeting, and nearly in tears, I spoke at
length, in person, with my supervisor in another organisation.  He has
great understanding of psychology and human behaviour, as part of his
job.

He helped me see how people are being bullied and harassed, and feel
uncomfortable and threatened.

He gave an example of how he had been bullied in the past few days, by
someone who was sending many messages to everyone in a community he
was part of.  He said that for him, once he revealed his feelings,
calm resumed.

So I'll try that.

Laura and Sebastian, by your rate of posting and Wiki editing, by your
use of many paths to achieve your goals; I'm feeling bullied,
harassed, uncomfortable and threatened.

In private messages with me, five (5) others also feel this.

You risk harming us as a community, because; even if you did not
intend this; we feel hurt.

Thanks for listening.


(In reply to an abuse report, GitHub support suggested it was a
dispute between contractors, which is one way to look at it;
competitive behaviour, acquisition of mind share.  My work for OLPC
could be seen in that framing, but to me it is human rights and global
mission focused.  I'll let the community discern my motivations based
on my actions.  Cooperation should have a higher reward than
competition.)

-- 
James Cameron
http://quozl.netrek.org/
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