Re: [IAEP] Request for help packaging activities for Sugar on a Stick
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 12:49 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Are these differences documented somewhere? Perhaps even isolated in > patchsets against upstream code? Unfortunately they aren't yet. I will try to document them on the wiki as part of the activities packaging work. Marco ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Request for help packaging activities for Sugar on a Stick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 11:59:34PM +0100, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: [snip] >That said, unfortunately, the hardest problems are in the system >differences between Fedora and the OLPC images (sugar-evince, csound, >olpcgames problems, tamtam performance hacks, xulrunner patches etc). Are these differences documented somewhere? Perhaps even isolated in patchsets against upstream code? I believe it is beneficial to all distributors (other than OLPC itself) to understand what hacks have actually been applied there. As an example, I help maintain CSound for Debian (which turned out to be a major task due to the code size and odd build framework) as it is needed for TamTam and others. Ideally same source package should be used for both "normal" users of CSound and Sugar integration. I would be happy to know about any Sugar- or OLPC-specific hacks that we might consider applying to Debian even if not (yet) passed upstream to the CSound developers and integrated with official mainline CSound. Generally it is a major headache for "generic" distributors like Debian and Fedora (and derivatives like Skolelinux/Debian-edu that use upstream packages as-is without patching and recompiling) to deal with forks/hacks to backend codebases. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAklNhHcACgkQn7DbMsAkQLhZGQCghfqDRSAwT0W9qIlfXppOO0Gz 3o4Anjg1oONSmDh1PeJimHLmQ1hzILn6 =6gDW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Request for help packaging activities for Sugar on a Stick
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi Caroline, > > > But Sugar without activities is boring!! We need you and your > > activities! Please help us get activities quickly ported to Sugar > > on a Stick, we have a lot of people pounding on our doors to try > > it. > > I don't suggest waiting for activities to be packaged, and no porting > should be required: can't you just preinstall a bunch of .xo files? Hello, we are not going to block on it. The plan is to continue to package activities and hopefully to do it faster. And at the same time to make .xo work better on SoaS (also I need to figure out how to best install .xo from the livecd kickstart, it's pretty painful). Then I'm looking forward for a good discussion at FUDcon about .xo and normal distribution packaging. That said, unfortunately, the hardest problems are in the system differences between Fedora and the OLPC images (sugar-evince, csound, olpcgames problems, tamtam performance hacks, xulrunner patches etc). Marco ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Request for help packaging activities for Sugar on a Stick
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Martin Sevior wrote: > Hi Caroline, > I clicked on the various links to see the status of > Write but I couldn't see anything. Is it already on SoaS? Yup, it is! Marco ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Request for help packaging activities for Sugar on a Stick
Hi Caroline, I clicked on the various links to see the status of Write but I couldn't see anything. Is it already on SoaS? Cheers Martin On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Caroline Meeks wrote: > Dear Sugar Activity Maintainers and other volunteers with packaging > abilities, > > We would love your help in packaging your Sugar Activities so they can be > used with Sugar on a Stick. > > What is Sugar on a Stick? It is a Live USB based distribution of Sugar. The > idea is to give each student a full Sugar experience on any computer they > have access to with just the cost of a 1 or 2 GB USB stick. This could make > make Sugar very affordable in US urban schools, many of which have older > computers already, and are in the shadows of corporations that throw out > hunderds and thousands of computers each year. > > We will be starting a Pilot of Sugar on a Stick at Gardner School, an urban > Boston School with 90% eligibility for free and reduced lunch. We have > people around the world ready to try it. It could be a promising way to use > containers full of computers in Africa, it could be a great way to let > people try Sugar at conferences and an easy way for people to learn to use > Sugar. > > We have the basics working - http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick > > But Sugar without activities is boring!! We need you and your activities! > Please help us get activities quickly ported to Sugar on a Stick, we have a > lot of people pounding on our doors to try it. > > Here is the status of activities packaging: > http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Activities_packaging - Marco is > coordinating the technical effort if you have any questions or need help. > > Thanks! > Caroline & Marco > > -- > Caroline Meeks > Solution Grove > carol...@solutiongrove.com > > 617-500-3488 - Office > 505-213-3268 - Fax > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Request for help packaging activities for Sugar on a Stick
Hi Caroline, > But Sugar without activities is boring!! We need you and your > activities! Please help us get activities quickly ported to Sugar > on a Stick, we have a lot of people pounding on our doors to try > it. I don't suggest waiting for activities to be packaged, and no porting should be required: can't you just preinstall a bunch of .xo files? Thanks, - Chris. -- Chris Ball ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Request for help packaging activities for Sugar on a Stick
Dear Sugar Activity Maintainers and other volunteers with packaging abilities, We would love your help in packaging your Sugar Activities so they can be used with Sugar on a Stick. What is Sugar on a Stick? It is a Live USB based distribution of Sugar. The idea is to give each student a full Sugar experience on any computer they have access to with just the cost of a 1 or 2 GB USB stick. This could make make Sugar very affordable in US urban schools, many of which have older computers already, and are in the shadows of corporations that throw out hunderds and thousands of computers each year. We will be starting a Pilot of Sugar on a Stick at Gardner School, an urban Boston School with 90% eligibility for free and reduced lunch. We have people around the world ready to try it. It could be a promising way to use containers full of computers in Africa, it could be a great way to let people try Sugar at conferences and an easy way for people to learn to use Sugar. We have the basics working - http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick But Sugar without activities is boring!! We need you and your activities! Please help us get activities quickly ported to Sugar on a Stick, we have a lot of people pounding on our doors to try it. Here is the status of activities packaging: http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Activities_packaging - Marco is coordinating the technical effort if you have any questions or need help. Thanks! Caroline & Marco -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
