Re: [IAEP] Sharing EToys projects
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:31 AM, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com wrote: I am working with 140 5th grade students who are using XOs (mostly) and netbooks with SOAS. About 50 of them are using Etoys to create projects. I am trying to find a way to share them with their teachers and each other. When I try to upload them to a Moodle course and them download them, the downloaded files can't be read by EToys. If you are using the Moodle included in XS 0.5.2 or 0.6, I added the etoys mimetypes so this would work: http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/martin/moodle.git/commit/?h=mdl19-xsid=c4a2a76328b5ff0ee8d4289445f41b42ffd46e6d m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sharing EToys projects
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 02:33:38PM +1100, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: A possible solution would be to give users the ability to inspect and alter the mime of journal items. As of 0.86 the details view show the MIME type. I don't think we should let users edit it in the details view (it's too much of shoot-yourself-in-the-foot), but there's nothing (not even Rainbow AFAIK) preventing anyone from writing a special-purpose activity that supports editing all metadata. CU Sascha -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sharing EToys projects
On 07.12.2009, at 21:54, Dave Bauer wrote: On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com wrote: Tomeu, There is no mime type that I can see. The Journal entry simply says File filename.pr from url for file. This is no different, by the way, when I upload and then download games we made in Memorize. However, Memorize will load the downloaded game. Thanks. Gerald Hi, I checked the apache config and added the mime type for the .pr files. I downloaded the file on my Mac and it got the correct mime type and offered to open the project in Squeak. I'm not sure if the filename doesn't play a role on the Mac. I tried on soas-strawberry and XO-802 and it did not open etoys from the journal. Maybe etoys is looking for a different mime-type than x-application/squeak-project? Try application/x-squeak-project not x-application/... It used to work on 802. And it does work in F11_XO1.5/Sugar 0.84 - I just tried. Just go to Squeakland.org and click the project thumbnail next to Jeopardy 3point0 which is the current project of the week. - Bert - ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sharing EToys projects
On 07.12.2009, at 22:08, Dave Bauer wrote: On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 07.12.2009, at 21:54, Dave Bauer wrote: On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com wrote: Tomeu, There is no mime type that I can see. The Journal entry simply says File filename.pr from url for file. This is no different, by the way, when I upload and then download games we made in Memorize. However, Memorize will load the downloaded game. Thanks. Gerald Hi, I checked the apache config and added the mime type for the .pr files. I downloaded the file on my Mac and it got the correct mime type and offered to open the project in Squeak. I'm not sure if the filename doesn't play a role on the Mac. I tried on soas-strawberry and XO-802 and it did not open etoys from the journal. Maybe etoys is looking for a different mime-type than x-application/squeak-project? Try application/x-squeak-project not x-application/... It used to work on 802. And it does work in F11_XO1.5/Sugar 0.84 - I just tried. Just go to Squeakland.org and click the project thumbnail next to Jeopardy 3point0 which is the current project of the week. Ok, good news! That opens in the etoys plugin in my browser so I will try to change the mime type and test again. Thanks Dave Ah well, the plugin embedding code (on Mac/Win/non-sugar Linux) provides its own mime type, so this does not really mean it will work in Sugar, where you do not have (nor need) the plugin. - Bert - ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Sharing EToys projects
Hello. I am working with 140 5th grade students who are using XOs (mostly) and netbooks with SOAS. About 50 of them are using Etoys to create projects. I am trying to find a way to share them with their teachers and each other. When I try to upload them to a Moodle course and them download them, the downloaded files can't be read by EToys. Any ideas? Thanks. Gerald ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sharing EToys projects
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 21:31, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I am working with 140 5th grade students who are using XOs (mostly) and netbooks with SOAS. About 50 of them are using Etoys to create projects. I am trying to find a way to share them with their teachers and each other. When I try to upload them to a Moodle course and them download them, the downloaded files can't be read by EToys. Any ideas? This uses to be a problem with the mime types. Can you see with which mimetype is downloaded the file from moodle? Regards, Tomeu -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sharing EToys projects
Tomeu, There is no mime type that I can see. The Journal entry simply says File filename.pr from url for file. This is no different, by the way, when I upload and then download games we made in Memorize. However, Memorize will load the downloaded game. Thanks. Gerald On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 21:31, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I am working with 140 5th grade students who are using XOs (mostly) and netbooks with SOAS. About 50 of them are using Etoys to create projects. I am trying to find a way to share them with their teachers and each other. When I try to upload them to a Moodle course and them download them, the downloaded files can't be read by EToys. Any ideas? This uses to be a problem with the mime types. Can you see with which mimetype is downloaded the file from moodle? Regards, Tomeu -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sharing EToys projects
Tomeu, One more thing. If I download Etoys projects from another site, like squeakland.org or etoysillinois.org, the Etoys icon is associated with the file in the Journal, and clicking on the file opens EToys properly. Thanks again. Gerald On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.comwrote: Tomeu, There is no mime type that I can see. The Journal entry simply says File filename.pr from url for file. This is no different, by the way, when I upload and then download games we made in Memorize. However, Memorize will load the downloaded game. Thanks. Gerald On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 21:31, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I am working with 140 5th grade students who are using XOs (mostly) and netbooks with SOAS. About 50 of them are using Etoys to create projects. I am trying to find a way to share them with their teachers and each other. When I try to upload them to a Moodle course and them download them, the downloaded files can't be read by EToys. Any ideas? This uses to be a problem with the mime types. Can you see with which mimetype is downloaded the file from moodle? Regards, Tomeu -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sharing EToys projects
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 21:31, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I am working with 140 5th grade students who are using XOs (mostly) and netbooks with SOAS. About 50 of them are using Etoys to create projects. I am trying to find a way to share them with their teachers and each other. When I try to upload them to a Moodle course and them download them, the downloaded files can't be read by EToys. Any ideas? This uses to be a problem with the mime types. Can you see with which mimetype is downloaded the file from moodle? Do you happen to know what the mime type should be for Etoys to open it? Thanks Dave Regards, Tomeu -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com http://www.solutiongrove.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sharing EToys projects
Dave Bauer wrote: Do you happen to know what the mime type should be for Etoys to open it? The list of mime types that the eToys activity will open is at http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/etoys/tree/activity.info.in I'm sure one of the eToys expert can give you better advice than I on which mime type is preferred. --Ben signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sharing EToys projects
At Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:00:59 -0500, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: [1 multipart/signed (7bit)] [1.1 text/plain; ISO-8859-1 (quoted-printable)] Dave Bauer wrote: Do you happen to know what the mime type should be for Etoys to open it? The list of mime types that the eToys activity will open is at http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/etoys/tree/activity.info.in I'm sure one of the eToys expert can give you better advice than I on which mime type is preferred. application/x-squeak-project is the one typically associated with .pr files. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sharing EToys projects
There is a description of Mime at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sugar.mime#Who_decides_the_default_activity_for_opening_files_of_different_mime_types.3F and more at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Journal_entry_bundles You can specify the Mime if using copy-to-journal from the command line eg copy-to-journal filename -m application/x-squeak-project This is an example of an issue which has been discussed before, that when the Journal doesn't work for a user, they have few tools to understand or fix the problem. This runs against Sugar's mission of empowering users. A possible solution would be to give users the ability to inspect and alter the mime of journal items. Tony Do you happen to know what the mime type should be for Etoys to open it? The list of mime types that the eToys activity will open is at http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/etoys/tree/activity.info.in I'm sure one of the eToys expert can give you better advice than I on which mime type is preferred. application/x-squeak-project is the one typically associated with .pr files. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
