Re: [IAEP] Sugar future

2013-04-12 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 12.04.2013, at 15:39, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote:

 O.K. So... now it is time to divide and conquer!

Is it?

 That is... divide the work up into doable little projects and conquer the 
 huge task of getting Sugar Activities onto Android and possibly other 
 platforms.

IMHO the individual activities are *not* what makes Sugar such a compelling 
proposition. Sure, having some of them as apps on other platforms would be 
nice. But isn't collaborating and sharing at the heart of Sugar? The Journal as 
central UI? The effortless discovery of your peers in the neighborhood view? 
Etc? *That* experience would have to be ported to another platform first, and 
then the activities can follow. Otherwise, it's just a bunch of random apps, of 
which there are plenty already in the various app stores.

- Bert -

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Re: [IAEP] Sugar future

2013-04-12 Thread Bastien
Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de writes:

 That is... divide the work up into doable little projects and conquer the
 huge task of getting Sugar Activities onto Android and possibly other
 platforms.

 IMHO the individual activities are *not* what makes Sugar such a compelling
 proposition. Sure, having some of them as apps on other platforms would be
 nice. But isn't collaborating and sharing at the heart of Sugar? The
 Journal as central UI? The effortless discovery of your peers in the
 neighborhood view? Etc? *That* experience would have to be ported to
 another platform first, and then the activities can follow. Otherwise, it's
 just a bunch of random apps, of which there are plenty already in the
 various app stores.

Bit +1.  Android seems a distraction so far.  Let's built on what
Sugar differs: great UI ideas.

-- 
 Bastien
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Re: [IAEP] Sugar future

2013-04-12 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 03:48:00PM -0700, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
 [...] the individual activities are *not* what makes Sugar such a
 compelling proposition. Sure, having some of them as apps on other
 platforms would be nice. But isn't collaborating and sharing at the
 heart of Sugar? The Journal as central UI? The effortless discovery
 of your peers in the neighborhood view? Etc? *That* experience would
 have to be ported to another platform first, and then the activities
 can follow. Otherwise, it's just a bunch of random apps, of which
 there are plenty already in the various app stores.

This.  Bert has nailed the fact that Sugar is more than the sum of its
parts, because the parts are coherent.

We can still port individual activities.  But having the sugar shell
running on android is a major step up in what a collection of
coherently-designed activities provide.  Noone's doing that work,
AFAIK.  I bet someone (cscott?) has already investigated its
feasibility, though...

 - Bert -

Martin


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