Re: [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick - Can we give it away at FUDCOM and at the DC event Walter is going to?
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 07:20, Nate Ridderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a place specifically for reporting SoaS bugs? I noticed there is a SoaS component on dev.sugarlabs.org. I'm not sure if this is for a specific SoaS distrobution. What was the intent? I need to file a bug that I noticed on Sbuntu - Sugar crashes when the Date Time buton on the Control Panel is clicked. That's likely to be a bug in Sugar on Ubuntu, which Sbuntu is based on, so please file it on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar. Regards Morgan ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick - Can we give it away at FUDCOM and at the DC event Walter is going to?
Caroline Meeks wrote: Hi, I think it would be cool to be able to give everyone SoaS USBs as Conference Swag at events where Sugar Labs is presenting. What do we need to do this? 1. A SoaS image we are proud of. I think we are almost there. 2. Lots of USB Sticks - Walter says he is making good progress on a donor. 3. A way to flash a hundred sticks in only an hour or two - Any ideas? Do other people think this is a useful thing to aim for in January? What activities make the best impression and should be on the Stick? What else should we think about to make such a give-away effective? In general I think the important point is to have an image that rocks in the first place ;) If there is connectivity at the conference, and you give a note that people should bring their sticks or download it before coming to the conference and put it on the stick, that should cover most of the cases. One can prepare let's say 10 sticks that people can use during the talk/workshop and that they hand back after the talk. The good thing with sticks is at least that you can reflash which covers the outdated problem, the one why I personally does not take often cd's. Regards, Simon ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick - Can we give it away at FUDCOM and at the DC event Walter is going to?
On 08.12.2008, at 13:32, Simon Schampijer wrote: Caroline Meeks wrote: Hi, I think it would be cool to be able to give everyone SoaS USBs as Conference Swag at events where Sugar Labs is presenting. What do we need to do this? 1. A SoaS image we are proud of. I think we are almost there. 2. Lots of USB Sticks - Walter says he is making good progress on a donor. 3. A way to flash a hundred sticks in only an hour or two - Any ideas? Do other people think this is a useful thing to aim for in January? Sure. I just gave it a test drive. 1. it booted without problems 2. dpi is wrong - text is much too small 3. 800x600 is too small - could not edit the collaboration server in the control panel 4. xrandr works in Terminal to set a larger resolution 5. now can use network control panel 6. to enable new collab server Sugar restarts 7. get a login screen, no auto-login, have to press return 8. due to restart, screen res is back to 800x600, need to resize again 9. I see ppl in neighborhood :) 10. but they are cramped into the upper left 800x600 portion of the screen 12. Browse start page is empty 13. Download TamTamMini activity - downloading works 14. Run TamTamMini - depends on csound library, does not work 15. Download and run Speak activity - depends on numpy, does not work 16. notice a trend here, so install etoys and squeak rpms rpm -Uvh http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/squeak-vm-latest.rpm rpm -Uvh http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/etoys-latest.rpm 17. Download and run Etoys activity - works 18. go to squeakland.org in Browse 19. try example there - works unexpectedly (meaning that olpc is still in the agent string) So this points at a general problem with Sugar activity dependencies ... What activities make the best impression and should be on the Stick? Don't know about impressions but if I was asked, Etoys should be on the Stick. - Bert - ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick - Can we give it away at FUDCOM and at the DC event Walter is going to?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 04:34:36PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: I just gave it a test drive. Sorry if I am the only one missing important parts of this thread, but _what_ did you test drive? I understand by now that SoaS refers to http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick - are you all playing with the Fedora-based ISO? It seems at least some of you are testing the Ubuntu-based one. Could you please, when posting experiences, mention what it is you tested. My interest concretely is to perhaps spot some Debian-related[1] issues and fix them even before getting filed as bugreports. But I guess it is more generally nice info, also for those producing those ISOs and others testing. Kind regards, - Jonas [1] Most Ubuntu packages derive from Debian ones. Please do file bugreports against the Ubuntu repository, even if the problem might be further up the development chain. - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkk9R4kACgkQn7DbMsAkQLifRgCeItUpHurkVjW0gXrXAXptBzF+ l/4An15EJJpwuDUeae5BL1mqN0+Efnrw =LpCF -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick - Can we give it away at FUDCOM and at the DC event Walter is going to?
On 08.12.2008, at 17:12, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 04:34:36PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: I just gave it a test drive. Sorry if I am the only one missing important parts of this thread, but _what_ did you test drive? I understand by now that SoaS refers to http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick - are you all playing with the Fedora-based ISO? That's what I did, yes, because all it requires is downloading http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/soas-5.iso and booting it. I can't do a lot of fiddling ;) - Bert - ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick - Can we give it away at FUDCOM and at the DC event Walter is going to?
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 11:48 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a lot of bugs to file on Ubuntu packages on the Ubuntu tracker. Please do. Ubuntu is a great on-ramp for Sugar Labs. It is surprising, at least to me, to see how many people who get involved with Sugar, first post a question or comment on the Ubuntu-SugarTeam list. From there, they spread out to other areas of the project:) Keep up the good work Ubuntu SugarTeam! david ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick - Can we give it away at FUDCOM and at the DC event Walter is going to?
I solved most of my problems by allocating more storage (530 MB) when creating my book stick. df -h now says I have 338 MB free on /. So now it appears that my only complaints are about cursor keys and alt-tab. Neither is a blocker, so go! I'll be demonstrating SoaS at Program for the Future at the Tech Museum and Adobe in San Jose Monday evening. Alan Kay, Doug Engelbart, and other luminaries will be there. On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:10 AM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Caroline Meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I think it would be cool to be able to give everyone SoaS USBs as Conference Swag at events where Sugar Labs is presenting. What do we need to do this? 1. A SoaS image we are proud of. I think we are almost there. 1. Fix bugs. o There is no free space in rootfs (mounted on /). This makes it difficult to do anything interesting. I can't install software or save work. I did say to allocate 128 MB free space when creating this bootable USB key. Where is it? Fixed as above. o The Journal is constantly nattering that it is full. It puts wrong dates on entries, and then loses them (I suppose because it can't write them anywhere). It usually fails to appear on the frame. Fixed as above. o Activities crash or fail to start, seemingly at random. (Maybe they can't find the Journal, either?) Fixed as above. o The cursor keys don't work in Browse or Terminal. Is there a keyboard command to repeat the previous command? o Ubuntu grabs Alt-Tabs, so I can't switch activities conveniently. Well, I can use the frame. No change. o When I exited Sugar and rebooted from the stick, Gnome barely loaded, and was unusable. When I rebooted again, it failed to get past a command line. I have only booted this one once. We'll see. If the problem before was because of lack of storage, then we're good. 2. Write a short document on how to use it. These are some more things that took me too long to discover, or that I have not yet discovered. Apparently the new features are documented in the release notes, but not in the form a beginner is looking for. o Where is Sugar?! Applications/Other/Sugar Emulator. Put it on the toolbar. o How do I enable repositories? sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list, and uncomment some lines, but it doesn't do me any good without filesystem space. I did that, and now I'm getting errors from apt-get sudo apt-get install mc Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Suggested packages: arj xpdf dbview The following NEW packages will be installed: mc 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 167 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/2135kB of archives. After this operation, 6406kB of additional disk space will be used. dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `Debian-exim' in statoverride file E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) o How do I install xo-get, or indeed anything? ?? OK o Is there a way to load saved sessions from elsewhere, even if I can't save anything on the stick? OK 2. Lots of USB Sticks - Walter says he is making good progress on a donor. 3. A way to flash a hundred sticks in only an hour or two - Any ideas? I see services that will do this for you. 1G drives printed with your logo and preloaded with your data, $10.19 http://www.stepthru.com.au/USBFlash.htm And here is an instance of the equipment, for making 21 copies at a time. http://www.aleratec.com/330104e.html ALERATEC 1:21 USB FLASH DRIVE COPY CRUISER USB FLASH DRIVE DUPLICATOR - Part #330104 Part # 330104 Price $1,049.00 ALERATEC 1:21 USB FLASH DRIVE COPY CRUISER FACTORY RECONDITIONED - PART # 330104E Part # 330104E Price $499.00 And some more. https://www.duplication.ca/shop/home.php?cat=61 http://users.skynet.be/fa945585/NewFiles/usb tester.html http://www.kingsaudio.co.uk/products/-vconsole-60-port-usb-flash-drive-duplicator/377/ http://www.cddimensions.com/products.asp?dept=208 Do other people think this is a useful thing to aim for in January? What activities make the best impression and should be on the Stick? Depends on the audience, and on whether we provide tutorials and explain how the Activities can be used in the classroom. o xo-get o TurteArt (sic) with examples. So much math! So much programming, and no syntax errors! o TerminalGotta have the command line. o eToys Where it all began. o Pippy import antigravity! Uh, import SciPy? o Measure Do you have any idea how much science you can do with a digital oscilloscope in both time and frequency domain? If users will be able to collaborate, then Write Paint TamTamJam What else should we think about to make such a give-away effective? Branding on the stick and the lanyard. Tell them how to join the project.
Re: [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick - Can we give it away at FUDCOM and at the DC event Walter is going to?
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I solved most of my problems by allocating more storage (530 MB) when creating my book stick. df -h now says I have 338 MB free on /. Great, can you fix the documentation so that the next person doesn't make the same mistake? Are you using the Fedora or Ubuntu SoaS? I think we want to continue with both but I think its useful when you report results to say which you are using. Are you all set with entering bugs in Trac? Thanks! Caroline So now it appears that my only complaints are about cursor keys and alt-tab. Neither is a blocker, so go! I'll be demonstrating SoaS at Program for the Future at the Tech Museum and Adobe in San Jose Monday evening. Alan Kay, Doug Engelbart, and other luminaries will be there. On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:10 AM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Caroline Meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I think it would be cool to be able to give everyone SoaS USBs as Conference Swag at events where Sugar Labs is presenting. What do we need to do this? 1. A SoaS image we are proud of. I think we are almost there. 1. Fix bugs. o There is no free space in rootfs (mounted on /). This makes it difficult to do anything interesting. I can't install software or save work. I did say to allocate 128 MB free space when creating this bootable USB key. Where is it? Fixed as above. o The Journal is constantly nattering that it is full. It puts wrong dates on entries, and then loses them (I suppose because it can't write them anywhere). It usually fails to appear on the frame. Fixed as above. o Activities crash or fail to start, seemingly at random. (Maybe they can't find the Journal, either?) Fixed as above. o The cursor keys don't work in Browse or Terminal. Is there a keyboard command to repeat the previous command? o Ubuntu grabs Alt-Tabs, so I can't switch activities conveniently. Well, I can use the frame. No change. o When I exited Sugar and rebooted from the stick, Gnome barely loaded, and was unusable. When I rebooted again, it failed to get past a command line. I have only booted this one once. We'll see. If the problem before was because of lack of storage, then we're good. 2. Write a short document on how to use it. These are some more things that took me too long to discover, or that I have not yet discovered. Apparently the new features are documented in the release notes, but not in the form a beginner is looking for. o Where is Sugar?! Applications/Other/Sugar Emulator. Put it on the toolbar. o How do I enable repositories? sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list, and uncomment some lines, but it doesn't do me any good without filesystem space. I did that, and now I'm getting errors from apt-get sudo apt-get install mc Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Suggested packages: arj xpdf dbview The following NEW packages will be installed: mc 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 167 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/2135kB of archives. After this operation, 6406kB of additional disk space will be used. dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `Debian-exim' in statoverride file E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) o How do I install xo-get, or indeed anything? ?? OK o Is there a way to load saved sessions from elsewhere, even if I can't save anything on the stick? OK 2. Lots of USB Sticks - Walter says he is making good progress on a donor. 3. A way to flash a hundred sticks in only an hour or two - Any ideas? I see services that will do this for you. 1G drives printed with your logo and preloaded with your data, $10.19 http://www.stepthru.com.au/USBFlash.htm And here is an instance of the equipment, for making 21 copies at a time. http://www.aleratec.com/330104e.html ALERATEC 1:21 USB FLASH DRIVE COPY CRUISER USB FLASH DRIVE DUPLICATOR - Part #330104 Part # 330104 Price $1,049.00 ALERATEC 1:21 USB FLASH DRIVE COPY CRUISER FACTORY RECONDITIONED - PART # 330104E Part # 330104E Price $499.00 And some more. https://www.duplication.ca/shop/home.php?cat=61 http://users.skynet.be/fa945585/NewFiles/usb tester.html http://www.kingsaudio.co.uk/products/-vconsole-60-port-usb-flash-drive-duplicator/377/ http://www.cddimensions.com/products.asp?dept=208 Do other people think this is a useful thing to aim for in January? What activities make the best impression and should be on the Stick? Depends on the audience, and on whether we provide tutorials and explain how the Activities can be used in the classroom. o xo-get o TurteArt (sic) with examples. So much math! So much programming, and no syntax errors! o TerminalGotta have the command line. o eToys
Re: [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick - Can we give it away at FUDCOM and at the DC event Walter is going to?
Caroline, I think this is a great idea, given the low cost of flash drives, and the improvements in SoaS. At the K12 Open Minds conference, there were lots of people interested in Sugar LiveCDs after Walter gave his talk. People will take flash drives regardless, but they will be much more effective at marketing Sugar if the recipients have a basic understanding about Sugar and want to play around with it themselves. If they get the drive in a swag bag, a lot of the folks might just reformat it. I haven't tried the Fedora Live USB yet, but I would recommend that over the Ubuntu or LiveBackup variety for a FUDCON event ;-) If it is far technically inferior (which I doubt) then it would be another story. I don't think your third requirement is too hard. If you get a few people with laptops and USB hubs, I bet you can whip out a hundred in an hour or two. How many people are estimated to attend FUDCON? If we can't find a donor, we could buy a hundred 1 gb drives for $200 or so. I found this in five minutes of searching the web - http://www.buy.com/prod/transcend-1gb-jetflash-v30-usb-2-0-flash-drive-1-gb-usb-transcend-1gb/q/loc/101/202760447.html Of course, if this idea really takes off we could design a custom flash drive with our new Sugar Glider logo, but it would cost more money. Donated drives seems like the preferred solution. Thanks, Nate On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Caroline Meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, I think it would be cool to be able to give everyone SoaS USBs as Conference Swag at events where Sugar Labs is presenting. What do we need to do this? 1. A SoaS image we are proud of. I think we are almost there. 2. Lots of USB Sticks - Walter says he is making good progress on a donor. 3. A way to flash a hundred sticks in only an hour or two - Any ideas? Do other people think this is a useful thing to aim for in January? What activities make the best impression and should be on the Stick? What else should we think about to make such a give-away effective? -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick - Can we give it away at FUDCOM and at the DC event Walter is going to?
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Caroline Meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I think it would be cool to be able to give everyone SoaS USBs as Conference Swag at events where Sugar Labs is presenting. Handing them out Sugar talks or workshops would be great. I am not a big fan of widely casting swag to people. I have never used a USB that I have received as swag at a conference:( What do we need to do this? 1. A SoaS image we are proud of. I think we are almost there. How far off are we? What are the major blockers? Do we have 'good enough' collaboration servers? Can we easily modify images so that they point to specific servers? 2. Lots of USB Sticks - Walter says he is making good progress on a donor. 3. A way to flash a hundred sticks in only an hour or two - Any ideas? Do other people think this is a useful thing to aim for in January? What activities make the best impression and should be on the Stick? What else should we think about to make such a give-away effective? Should be given away as part of a workshop or talk. The ahhh factor of a roomful of people popping up on each others neighborhoods will be pretty high! david -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick - Can we give it away at FUDCOM and at the DC event Walter is going to?
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Caroline Meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I think it would be cool to be able to give everyone SoaS USBs as Conference Swag at events where Sugar Labs is presenting. What do we need to do this? 1. A SoaS image we are proud of. I think we are almost there. 1. Fix bugs. o There is no free space in rootfs (mounted on /). This makes it difficult to do anything interesting. I can't install software or save work. I did say to allocate 128 MB free space when creating this bootable USB key. Where is it? o The Journal is constantly nattering that it is full. It puts wrong dates on entries, and then loses them (I suppose because it can't write them anywhere). It usually fails to appear on the frame. o Activities crash or fail to start, seemingly at random. (Maybe they can't find the Journal, either?) o The cursor keys don't work in Browse or Terminal. o Ubuntu grabs Alt-Tabs, so I can't switch activities conveniently. Well, I can use the frame. o When I exited Sugar and rebooted from the stick, Gnome barely loaded, and was unusable. When I rebooted again, it failed to get past a command line. 2. Write a short document on how to use it. These are some more things that took me too long to discover, or that I have not yet discovered. Apparently the new features are documented in the release notes, but not in the form a beginner is looking for. o Where is Sugar?! Applications/Other/Sugar Emulator. Put it on the toolbar. o How do I enable repositories? vi /etc/apt/sources.list, and uncomment some lines, but it doesn't do me any good without filesystem space. o How do I install xo-get, or indeed anything? ?? o Is there a way to load saved sessions from elsewhere, even if I can't save anything on the stick? 2. Lots of USB Sticks - Walter says he is making good progress on a donor. 3. A way to flash a hundred sticks in only an hour or two - Any ideas? I see services that will do this for you. 1G drives printed with your logo and preloaded with your data, $10.19 http://www.stepthru.com.au/USBFlash.htm And here is an instance of the equipment, for making 21 copies at a time. http://www.aleratec.com/330104e.html ALERATEC 1:21 USB FLASH DRIVE COPY CRUISER USB FLASH DRIVE DUPLICATOR - Part #330104 Part # 330104 Price $1,049.00 ALERATEC 1:21 USB FLASH DRIVE COPY CRUISER FACTORY RECONDITIONED - PART # 330104E Part # 330104E Price $499.00 And some more. https://www.duplication.ca/shop/home.php?cat=61 http://users.skynet.be/fa945585/NewFiles/usb tester.html http://www.kingsaudio.co.uk/products/-vconsole-60-port-usb-flash-drive-duplicator/377/ http://www.cddimensions.com/products.asp?dept=208 Do other people think this is a useful thing to aim for in January? What activities make the best impression and should be on the Stick? Depends on the audience, and on whether we provide tutorials and explain how the Activities can be used in the classroom. o xo-get o TurteArt (sic) with examples. So much math! So much programming, and no syntax errors! o TerminalGotta have the command line. o eToys Where it all began. o Pippy import antigravity! Uh, import SciPy? o Measure Do you have any idea how much science you can do with a digital oscilloscope in both time and frequency domain? If users will be able to collaborate, then Write Paint TamTamJam What else should we think about to make such a give-away effective? Branding on the stick and the lanyard. Tell them how to join the project. -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick - Can we give it away at FUDCOM and at the DC event Walter is going to?
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Caroline Meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I think it would be cool to be able to give everyone SoaS USBs as Conference Swag at events where Sugar Labs is presenting. What do we need to do this? 1. A SoaS image we are proud of. I think we are almost there. 1. Fix bugs. Is there a place specifically for reporting SoaS bugs? o There is no free space in rootfs (mounted on /). This makes it difficult to do anything interesting. I can't install software or save work. I did say to allocate 128 MB free space when creating this bootable USB key. Where is it? o The Journal is constantly nattering that it is full. It puts wrong dates on entries, and then loses them (I suppose because it can't write them anywhere). It usually fails to appear on the frame. o Activities crash or fail to start, seemingly at random. (Maybe they can't find the Journal, either?) o The cursor keys don't work in Browse or Terminal. o Ubuntu grabs Alt-Tabs, so I can't switch activities conveniently. Well, I can use the frame. o When I exited Sugar and rebooted from the stick, Gnome barely loaded, and was unusable. When I rebooted again, it failed to get past a command line. And once more: No buffer space. Failed to get to the command line. 2. Write a short document on how to use it. These are some more things that took me too long to discover, or that I have not yet discovered. Apparently the new features are documented in the release notes, but not in the form a beginner is looking for. o Where is Sugar?! Applications/Other/Sugar Emulator. Put it on the toolbar. o How do I enable repositories? vi /etc/apt/sources.list, and uncomment some lines, but it doesn't do me any good without filesystem space. o How do I install xo-get, or indeed anything? ?? o Is there a way to load saved sessions from elsewhere, even if I can't save anything on the stick? 2. Lots of USB Sticks - Walter says he is making good progress on a donor. 3. A way to flash a hundred sticks in only an hour or two - Any ideas? I see services that will do this for you. 1G drives printed with your logo and preloaded with your data, $10.19 http://www.stepthru.com.au/USBFlash.htm And here is an instance of the equipment, for making 21 copies at a time. http://www.aleratec.com/330104e.html ALERATEC 1:21 USB FLASH DRIVE COPY CRUISER USB FLASH DRIVE DUPLICATOR - Part #330104 Part # 330104 Price $1,049.00 ALERATEC 1:21 USB FLASH DRIVE COPY CRUISER FACTORY RECONDITIONED - PART # 330104E Part # 330104E Price $499.00 And some more. https://www.duplication.ca/shop/home.php?cat=61 http://users.skynet.be/fa945585/NewFiles/usb tester.html http://www.kingsaudio.co.uk/products/-vconsole-60-port-usb-flash-drive-duplicator/377/ http://www.cddimensions.com/products.asp?dept=208 Do other people think this is a useful thing to aim for in January? What activities make the best impression and should be on the Stick? Depends on the audience, and on whether we provide tutorials and explain how the Activities can be used in the classroom. o xo-get o TurteArt (sic) with examples. So much math! So much programming, and no syntax errors! o TerminalGotta have the command line. o eToys Where it all began. o Pippy import antigravity! Uh, import SciPy? o Measure Do you have any idea how much science you can do with a digital oscilloscope in both time and frequency domain? If users will be able to collaborate, then Write Paint TamTamJam What else should we think about to make such a give-away effective? Branding on the stick and the lanyard. Tell them how to join the project. -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick - Can we give it away at FUDCOM and at the DC event Walter is going to?
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a place specifically for reporting SoaS bugs? I noticed there is a SoaS component on dev.sugarlabs.org. I'm not sure if this is for a specific SoaS distrobution. What was the intent? I need to file a bug that I noticed on Sbuntu - Sugar crashes when the Date Time buton on the Control Panel is clicked. Thanks, Nate ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
