Re: [IAEP] Urgent Motion: To add three contributors into the membership/election committee

2017-09-07 Thread Laura Vargas
2017-09-06 20:04 GMT-05:00 Walter Bender :

> As I said earlier, I don't think SLOB should be involved in the details of
> who is a member of this committee or that committee.
>
We should be trusting the community. That said, I agree with James -- we
> need more transparency from the committee. For example, when the "Sugar
> Labs Membership and Elections Committee strongly suggests" something in the
> wiki, it would be nice to have a public link to the meeting notes available
> so that it is clear that it really is the committee that is strongly
> suggesting and not just an individual's opinion.
>

I fixed the discussion page to reflect my opinion only. Now it reads:

"I strongly suggest candidates to optimize space given and avoid irrelevant
information such as quoting other people's thoughts different from those
thoughts of the candidate him/her self. Instead I suggest candidates to
focus on a simple message to share your motivation, vision and/or
management skills that make you an ideal candidate for the Sugar Labs
Oversight Board."

https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Oversight_Board/2017-2019-candidates


regards,

Laura



>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 8:36 PM, Laura Vargas 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> 2017-09-06 19:24 GMT-05:00 James Cameron :
>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 07:00:24PM -0500, Laura Vargas wrote:
>>> > In my opinion the motion haven't pass yet as have only 3 valid votes
>>> > in favor: Walter as 1 of the 4 candidates for the 2017-2019
>>> > elections should abstain to avoid any direct interference with the
>>> > current election process he is participating in.
>>>
>>> I disagree.  As the motion is only adding members to a committee,
>>> there's no interference in process of the committee.
>>>
>>> By your logic above, the only people who could vote for the motion are
>>> those whose slot is not expiring; Samson, Ignacio, and Laura.  And
>>> these three are the committee.  ;-)
>>>
>>>
>> Not even I should vote on any motion related to the current electoral
>> process until current election calendar terminates on October 15, 2017 as
>> it could be defined as a "Conflict of Interest".
>>
>> At this point, this a polemical motion.
>>
>> I think we need to make allow enough time to set as deadline for the OPEN
>> CALL for volunteers for the Membership and Elections Committee so that ALL
>> members of SUGAR LABS (r) are invited to join the Committee in equal
>> conditions.
>>
>>
>> I want to underline is super important anyone who wants to join the
>> Committee should state it on his/her own during an OPEN CALL.
>>
>> Regards
>> Laura V
>>
>>
>>> --
>>> James Cameron
>>> http://quozl.netrek.org/
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Laura V.
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>>
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>



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Re: [IAEP] Urgent Motion: To add three contributors into the membership/election committee

2017-09-06 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 07:36:03PM -0500, Laura Vargas wrote:
> Not even I should vote on any motion related to the current
> electoral process until current election calendar terminates on
> October 15, 2017 as it could be defined as a "Conflict of Interest".

(a) the motion 2017-14 which was agreed did not relate to the current
electoral process, but to the membership of a committee who is
responsible for implementing the process,

(b) there is no conflict of interest visible; your primary interest is
as a member of the oversight board and a member of the committee, none
of your declared secondary interests include personal benefit,
financial gain, desire for professional advancement, or the wish to do
favours for family or friends.

(c) if there is a conflict of interest that is not yet visible, please
make it visible.

Therefore you had the right to vote on the motion.

> At this point, this a polemical motion.

I've had to look up the word polemical.

The motion that passed was proposed by an oversight board member who
is also a member of the committee; Samson.  If you are saying the
motion was an argument, a controversy, or a verbal or written attack
on you, then I'm surprised.  You might take this up with Samson
privately though.

> I think we need to make allow enough time to set as deadline for the
> OPEN CALL for volunteers for the Membership and Elections Committee
> so that ALL members of SUGAR LABS (r) are invited to join the
> Committee in equal conditions.
> 
> I want to underline is super important anyone who wants to join the
> Committee should state it on his/her own during an OPEN CALL.

Your opinion on this is welcome, of course, but following the agreed
motion 2017-14, the committee now consists of Samson, Ignacio, Hrishi,
Pericherla, Ibiam and yourself.

It isn't clear that there is a need for further committee members,
given that the original reason was to enhance transparency.

As the oversight board did not formally decide to make an OPEN CALL,
your message making that call was a personal decision.  Your aim seems
to be "helping out with the tasks related".  It will be interesting to
see who responds.  The committee may still involve as visitors those
yet to be respond.

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Re: [IAEP] Urgent Motion: To add three contributors into the membership/election committee

2017-09-06 Thread Walter Bender
As I said earlier, I don't think SLOB should be involved in the details of
who is a member of this committee or that committee. We should be trusting
the community. That said, I agree with James -- we need more transparency
from the committee. For example, when the "Sugar Labs Membership and
Elections Committee strongly suggests" something in the wiki, it would be
nice to have a public link to the meeting notes available so that it is
clear that it really is the committee that is strongly suggesting and not
just an individual's opinion.

regards.

-walter

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 8:36 PM, Laura Vargas  wrote:

>
>
> 2017-09-06 19:24 GMT-05:00 James Cameron :
>
>> On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 07:00:24PM -0500, Laura Vargas wrote:
>> > In my opinion the motion haven't pass yet as have only 3 valid votes
>> > in favor: Walter as 1 of the 4 candidates for the 2017-2019
>> > elections should abstain to avoid any direct interference with the
>> > current election process he is participating in.
>>
>> I disagree.  As the motion is only adding members to a committee,
>> there's no interference in process of the committee.
>>
>> By your logic above, the only people who could vote for the motion are
>> those whose slot is not expiring; Samson, Ignacio, and Laura.  And
>> these three are the committee.  ;-)
>>
>>
> Not even I should vote on any motion related to the current electoral
> process until current election calendar terminates on October 15, 2017 as
> it could be defined as a "Conflict of Interest".
>
> At this point, this a polemical motion.
>
> I think we need to make allow enough time to set as deadline for the OPEN
> CALL for volunteers for the Membership and Elections Committee so that ALL
> members of SUGAR LABS (r) are invited to join the Committee in equal
> conditions.
>
>
> I want to underline is super important anyone who wants to join the
> Committee should state it on his/her own during an OPEN CALL.
>
> Regards
> Laura V
>
>
>> --
>> James Cameron
>> http://quozl.netrek.org/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Laura V.
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>
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>
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Re: [IAEP] Urgent Motion: To add three contributors into the membership/election committee

2017-09-06 Thread Laura Vargas
2017-09-06 19:24 GMT-05:00 James Cameron :

> On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 07:00:24PM -0500, Laura Vargas wrote:
> > In my opinion the motion haven't pass yet as have only 3 valid votes
> > in favor: Walter as 1 of the 4 candidates for the 2017-2019
> > elections should abstain to avoid any direct interference with the
> > current election process he is participating in.
>
> I disagree.  As the motion is only adding members to a committee,
> there's no interference in process of the committee.
>
> By your logic above, the only people who could vote for the motion are
> those whose slot is not expiring; Samson, Ignacio, and Laura.  And
> these three are the committee.  ;-)
>
>
Not even I should vote on any motion related to the current electoral
process until current election calendar terminates on October 15, 2017 as
it could be defined as a "Conflict of Interest".

At this point, this a polemical motion.

I think we need to make allow enough time to set as deadline for the OPEN
CALL for volunteers for the Membership and Elections Committee so that ALL
members of SUGAR LABS (r) are invited to join the Committee in equal
conditions.


I want to underline is super important anyone who wants to join the
Committee should state it on his/her own during an OPEN CALL.

Regards
Laura V


> --
> James Cameron
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>



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Re: [IAEP] Urgent Motion: To add three contributors into the membership/election committee

2017-09-06 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 07:00:24PM -0500, Laura Vargas wrote:
> In my opinion the motion haven't pass yet as have only 3 valid votes
> in favor: Walter as 1 of the 4 candidates for the 2017-2019
> elections should abstain to avoid any direct interference with the
> current election process he is participating in.

I disagree.  As the motion is only adding members to a committee,
there's no interference in process of the committee.

By your logic above, the only people who could vote for the motion are
those whose slot is not expiring; Samson, Ignacio, and Laura.  And
these three are the committee.  ;-)

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Re: [IAEP] Urgent Motion: To add three contributors into the membership/election committee

2017-09-06 Thread James Cameron
Thanks.

I don't think adding more Sugar Labs members to the membership and
elections committee will increase transparency.

Practices that will increase transparency are;

- make open the discussions, meetings, minutes, and decisions of the
  committee,

- make open the collective actions of the committee; Laura is doing
  that job very well,

- make open the individual actions of the committee,

- declaring any conflicts of interest, or confirming there are no
  conflicts of interest, as a consequence of being on committee,

- deciding the types of information that will not be made open; such
  as votes, and Sugar Labs member e-mail addresses.

There's a risk adding more Sugar Labs members to the membership and
elections committee might decrease transparency; by reducing time
spent on transparency practices.

Don't forget, the membership and elections committee also has two
independent third parties they can turn to; Dave Crossland (impartial
election oversight party), and Bert Freudenberg as Ombudsman.

On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 12:09:49AM +0100, Samson Goddy wrote:
> Thank you James,
> 
> The reason we want more members is due to the current members are all SLOBS 
> and
> since we will be having elections it is wise to have some non-SLOBS member in,
> for sake of transparency.  
> 
> Samson
> 
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 12:05 AM, James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote:
> 
> Good that the motion passed, but I'll comment anyway.  ;-)
> 
> Pericherla Seetaramaraju and Hirish Patel are not Sugar Labs members
> yet.  On the other hand, nor am I.
> 
> My opinion is that it is up to the membership and elections committee
> who they invite to their meetings and who they collaborate with.  Call
> them visitors.  Visitors need not be Sugar Labs members.  Visitors
> could be asked their opinion but their vote on motions could be
> avoided.
> 
> I don't see why the committee needs more committee members, apart from
> Walter's concern that the committee at the moment consists only of
> the continuing oversight board members.
> 
> 
> [2]http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/2017-09-01T19:10:08#
> i_2902795
> 
> This perhaps is more a function of the level of interest overall; and
> losing Ignacio is an unfortunate sign of that.
>
> On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 05:43:31PM -0500, Laura Vargas wrote:
> > Samson,
> >
> > I would support a motion to add Ibiam to the Membership and elections
> Committee
> > since Ibiam is a Sugar Labs member.
> >
> > Not sure it works for non Sugar Labs members.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Laura V
> > Membership and Elections Committee Liaison
> >
> > 2017-09-06 16:02 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy <[1][3]samsongo...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >     Hello, 
> >
> >     I am requesting to SLOB. To add Pericherla Seetaramaraju  (Google
> Summer of
> >     Code Intern), Hirish Patel (Contributor and Google Summer of Code
> Mentor) 
> >     and Ibiam Chihurumnaya (Member of Sugar Labs). I mentioned at the
> meeting
> >     that we need more members in the Membership/Election committee. 
> >
> >
> >     I will appreciate if someone second this motion for voting.
> >
> >
> >
> >     Regards
> >
> >     Samson Goddy
> >
> > --
> > Laura V.
> > I SomosAZUCAR.Org
> >
> > “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.” 
> > ~ L. Victoria
> >
> > Happy Learning!
> > #LearningByDoing
> > #Projects4good
> > #IDesignATSugarLabs
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> >
> > References:
> >
> > [1] mailto:[4]samsongo...@gmail.com
> 
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> [4] mailto:samsongo...@gmail.com
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Re: [IAEP] Urgent Motion: To add three contributors into the membership/election committee

2017-09-06 Thread Samson Goddy
On Sep 7, 2017 1:00 AM, "Laura Vargas"  wrote:



2017-09-06 18:09 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy :

> Thank you James,
>
> The reason we want more members is due to the current members are all
> SLOBS and since we will be having elections it is wise to have some
> non-SLOBS member in, for sake of transparency.
>
>
>
Samson
>
>
I agree.

Therefore we will complete an *open call for volunteers* and will translate
and communicate giving enough time to all our members on our supported
lists.

In my opinion *the motion haven't pass yet *as have only 3 valid votes in
favor: Walter as 1 of the 4 candidates
for the
2017-2019 elections should abstain to avoid any direct interference with
the current election process he is participating in.

I don't understand. All vote are counted valid until after election, he is
still SLOB.

Everyone has the right to vote on motion until they lose seat. If i want
use your words against you. Meaning we only have 3 valid voters (Me, you
and Ignacio) and we can't pass any motion with 3 out of 7 seat.

So no need for this statement.


Again, *I would support a motion for new members as long as they are Sugar
Labs members in "good standing" and have made a volunteer request to be
part of the Committee on a OPEN, inclusive and transparent way. *.

Good but this three already showed interest and we should use what we have
before we wait for others.




Regards and blessings in your way,

Laura V
--SL MEC Liaison



>
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 12:05 AM, James Cameron  wrote:
>
>> Good that the motion passed, but I'll comment anyway.  ;-)
>>
>> Pericherla Seetaramaraju and Hirish Patel are not Sugar Labs members
>> yet.  On the other hand, nor am I.
>>
>> My opinion is that it is up to the membership and elections committee
>> who they invite to their meetings and who they collaborate with.  Call
>> them visitors.  Visitors need not be Sugar Labs members.  Visitors
>> could be asked their opinion but their vote on motions could be
>> avoided.
>>
>> I don't see why the committee needs more committee members, apart from
>> Walter's concern that the committee at the moment consists only of
>> the continuing oversight board members.
>>
>> http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/2017-09-
>> 01T19:10:08#i_2902795
>>
>> This perhaps is more a function of the level of interest overall; and
>> losing Ignacio is an unfortunate sign of that.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 05:43:31PM -0500, Laura Vargas wrote:
>> > Samson,
>> >
>> > I would support a motion to add Ibiam to the Membership and elections
>> Committee
>> > since Ibiam is a Sugar Labs member.
>> >
>> > Not sure it works for non Sugar Labs members.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Laura V
>> > Membership and Elections Committee Liaison
>> >
>> > 2017-09-06 16:02 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy <[1]samsongo...@gmail.com>:
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I am requesting to SLOB. To add Pericherla Seetaramaraju  (Google
>> Summer of
>> > Code Intern), Hirish Patel (Contributor and Google Summer of Code
>> Mentor)
>> > and Ibiam Chihurumnaya (Member of Sugar Labs). I mentioned at the
>> meeting
>> > that we need more members in the Membership/Election committee.
>> >
>> >
>> > I will appreciate if someone second this motion for voting.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Samson Goddy
>> >
>> > --
>> > Laura V.
>> > I SomosAZUCAR.Org
>> >
>> > “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
>> > ~ L. Victoria
>> >
>> > Happy Learning!
>> > #LearningByDoing
>> > #Projects4good
>> > #IDesignATSugarLabs
>> > #WeCanDoBetter
>> >
>> > References:
>> >
>> > [1] mailto:samsongo...@gmail.com
>>
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>>
>>
>> --
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>> http://quozl.netrek.org/
>>
>
>


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Re: [IAEP] Urgent Motion: To add three contributors into the membership/election committee

2017-09-06 Thread Laura Vargas
2017-09-06 18:09 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy :

> Thank you James,
>
> The reason we want more members is due to the current members are all
> SLOBS and since we will be having elections it is wise to have some
> non-SLOBS member in, for sake of transparency.
>
>
>
Samson
>
>
I agree.

Therefore we will complete an *open call for volunteers* and will translate
and communicate giving enough time to all our members on our supported
lists.

In my opinion *the motion haven't pass yet *as have only 3 valid votes in
favor: Walter as 1 of the 4 candidates
for the
2017-2019 elections should abstain to avoid any direct interference with
the current election process he is participating in.

Again, *I would support a motion for new members as long as they are Sugar
Labs members in "good standing" and have made a volunteer request to be
part of the Committee on a OPEN, inclusive and transparent way. *.


Regards and blessings in your way,

Laura V
--SL MEC Liaison



>
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 12:05 AM, James Cameron  wrote:
>
>> Good that the motion passed, but I'll comment anyway.  ;-)
>>
>> Pericherla Seetaramaraju and Hirish Patel are not Sugar Labs members
>> yet.  On the other hand, nor am I.
>>
>> My opinion is that it is up to the membership and elections committee
>> who they invite to their meetings and who they collaborate with.  Call
>> them visitors.  Visitors need not be Sugar Labs members.  Visitors
>> could be asked their opinion but their vote on motions could be
>> avoided.
>>
>> I don't see why the committee needs more committee members, apart from
>> Walter's concern that the committee at the moment consists only of
>> the continuing oversight board members.
>>
>> http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/2017-09-
>> 01T19:10:08#i_2902795
>>
>> This perhaps is more a function of the level of interest overall; and
>> losing Ignacio is an unfortunate sign of that.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 05:43:31PM -0500, Laura Vargas wrote:
>> > Samson,
>> >
>> > I would support a motion to add Ibiam to the Membership and elections
>> Committee
>> > since Ibiam is a Sugar Labs member.
>> >
>> > Not sure it works for non Sugar Labs members.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Laura V
>> > Membership and Elections Committee Liaison
>> >
>> > 2017-09-06 16:02 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy <[1]samsongo...@gmail.com>:
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I am requesting to SLOB. To add Pericherla Seetaramaraju  (Google
>> Summer of
>> > Code Intern), Hirish Patel (Contributor and Google Summer of Code
>> Mentor)
>> > and Ibiam Chihurumnaya (Member of Sugar Labs). I mentioned at the
>> meeting
>> > that we need more members in the Membership/Election committee.
>> >
>> >
>> > I will appreciate if someone second this motion for voting.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Samson Goddy
>> >
>> > --
>> > Laura V.
>> > I SomosAZUCAR.Org
>> >
>> > “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
>> > ~ L. Victoria
>> >
>> > Happy Learning!
>> > #LearningByDoing
>> > #Projects4good
>> > #IDesignATSugarLabs
>> > #WeCanDoBetter
>> >
>> > References:
>> >
>> > [1] mailto:samsongo...@gmail.com
>>
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>>
>> --
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>>
>
>


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Re: [IAEP] Urgent Motion: To add three contributors into the membership/election committee

2017-09-06 Thread Samson Goddy
Thank you James,

The reason we want more members is due to the current members are all SLOBS
and since we will be having elections it is wise to have some non-SLOBS
member in, for sake of transparency.

Samson

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 12:05 AM, James Cameron  wrote:

> Good that the motion passed, but I'll comment anyway.  ;-)
>
> Pericherla Seetaramaraju and Hirish Patel are not Sugar Labs members
> yet.  On the other hand, nor am I.
>
> My opinion is that it is up to the membership and elections committee
> who they invite to their meetings and who they collaborate with.  Call
> them visitors.  Visitors need not be Sugar Labs members.  Visitors
> could be asked their opinion but their vote on motions could be
> avoided.
>
> I don't see why the committee needs more committee members, apart from
> Walter's concern that the committee at the moment consists only of
> the continuing oversight board members.
>
> http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/2017-
> 09-01T19:10:08#i_2902795
>
> This perhaps is more a function of the level of interest overall; and
> losing Ignacio is an unfortunate sign of that.
>
> On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 05:43:31PM -0500, Laura Vargas wrote:
> > Samson,
> >
> > I would support a motion to add Ibiam to the Membership and elections
> Committee
> > since Ibiam is a Sugar Labs member.
> >
> > Not sure it works for non Sugar Labs members.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Laura V
> > Membership and Elections Committee Liaison
> >
> > 2017-09-06 16:02 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy <[1]samsongo...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am requesting to SLOB. To add Pericherla Seetaramaraju  (Google
> Summer of
> > Code Intern), Hirish Patel (Contributor and Google Summer of Code
> Mentor)
> > and Ibiam Chihurumnaya (Member of Sugar Labs). I mentioned at the
> meeting
> > that we need more members in the Membership/Election committee.
> >
> >
> > I will appreciate if someone second this motion for voting.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Samson Goddy
> >
> > --
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Re: [IAEP] Urgent Motion: To add three contributors into the membership/election committee

2017-09-06 Thread James Cameron
Good that the motion passed, but I'll comment anyway.  ;-)

Pericherla Seetaramaraju and Hirish Patel are not Sugar Labs members
yet.  On the other hand, nor am I.

My opinion is that it is up to the membership and elections committee
who they invite to their meetings and who they collaborate with.  Call
them visitors.  Visitors need not be Sugar Labs members.  Visitors
could be asked their opinion but their vote on motions could be
avoided.

I don't see why the committee needs more committee members, apart from
Walter's concern that the committee at the moment consists only of
the continuing oversight board members.

http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/2017-09-01T19:10:08#i_2902795

This perhaps is more a function of the level of interest overall; and
losing Ignacio is an unfortunate sign of that.

On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 05:43:31PM -0500, Laura Vargas wrote:
> Samson,
> 
> I would support a motion to add Ibiam to the Membership and elections 
> Committee
> since Ibiam is a Sugar Labs member.
> 
> Not sure it works for non Sugar Labs members.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Laura V
> Membership and Elections Committee Liaison
> 
> 2017-09-06 16:02 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy <[1]samsongo...@gmail.com>:
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> I am requesting to SLOB. To add Pericherla Seetaramaraju  (Google Summer 
> of
> Code Intern), Hirish Patel (Contributor and Google Summer of Code Mentor) 
> and Ibiam Chihurumnaya (Member of Sugar Labs). I mentioned at the meeting
> that we need more members in the Membership/Election committee. 
>
>
> I will appreciate if someone second this motion for voting.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Samson Goddy
> 
> --
> Laura V.
> I SomosAZUCAR.Org
> 
> “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.” 
> ~ L. Victoria
> 
> Happy Learning!
> #LearningByDoing
> #Projects4good
> #IDesignATSugarLabs
> #WeCanDoBetter
> 
> References:
> 
> [1] mailto:samsongo...@gmail.com

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Re: [IAEP] Urgent Motion: To add three contributors into the membership/election committee

2017-09-06 Thread Samson Goddy
The motion already passed.

Both of them are going to sign up for Sugar Labs membership, which they can
easily do.

I guess this motion passed.

Pericherla and Hrishi, the next step to take is to formally sign up as a
Sugar Labs member[1].

Congrats

[1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members#Applying_for_membership



On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Laura Vargas  wrote:

> Samson,
>
> I would support a motion to add Ibiam to the Membership and elections
> Committee since Ibiam is a Sugar Labs member.
>
> Not sure it works for non Sugar Labs members.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Laura V
> Membership and Elections Committee Liaison
>
>
> 2017-09-06 16:02 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy :
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am requesting to SLOB. To add Pericherla Seetaramaraju  (Google Summer
>> of Code Intern), Hirish Patel (Contributor and Google Summer of Code
>> Mentor)
>> and Ibiam Chihurumnaya (Member of Sugar Labs). I mentioned at the meeting
>> that we need more members in the Membership/Election committee.
>>
>>
>> I will appreciate if someone second this motion for voting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Samson Goddy
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Laura V.
> * I SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>
> “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
> ~ L. Victoria
>
> Happy Learning!
> #LearningByDoing
> #Projects4good
> #IDesignATSugarLabs
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>
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Re: [IAEP] Urgent Motion: To add three contributors into the membership/election committee

2017-09-06 Thread Laura Vargas
Samson,

I would support a motion to add Ibiam to the Membership and elections
Committee since Ibiam is a Sugar Labs member.

Not sure it works for non Sugar Labs members.


Regards,

Laura V
Membership and Elections Committee Liaison


2017-09-06 16:02 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy :

> Hello,
>
> I am requesting to SLOB. To add Pericherla Seetaramaraju  (Google Summer
> of Code Intern), Hirish Patel (Contributor and Google Summer of Code
> Mentor)
> and Ibiam Chihurumnaya (Member of Sugar Labs). I mentioned at the meeting
> that we need more members in the Membership/Election committee.
>
>
> I will appreciate if someone second this motion for voting.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Samson Goddy
>



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[IAEP] Urgent Motion: To add three contributors into the membership/election committee

2017-09-06 Thread Samson Goddy
Hello,

I am requesting to SLOB. To add Pericherla Seetaramaraju  (Google Summer of
Code Intern), Hirish Patel (Contributor and Google Summer of Code Mentor)
and Ibiam Chihurumnaya (Member of Sugar Labs). I mentioned at the meeting
that we need more members in the Membership/Election committee.


I will appreciate if someone second this motion for voting.



Regards

Samson Goddy
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