Re: [IAEP] Who determines what version of Sugar is used in the field?

2010-07-12 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 13:02, Mel Chua m...@melchua.com wrote:
 (from the last SLOBs agenda-kickin',
 http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2010-July/011343.html)

 Question from Kevin Mark: Who should be the deciding organization for
 who determines what version of sugar is used in the field?

 I was confused about the hierarchy of who should be the deciding
 organization for who determines what version of sugar is used in the
 field. There are more than 500,000 users and many people outside of OLPC
 and Sugar Labs that will have to support that choice (of using 0.88) as
 well as the support that OLPC and Sugar Labs in Boston and elsewhere
 will have to provide. I dont know how a new 3rd party like Activity
 Central is involved in this and what role they should be taking as they
 are untested and lacking the kind of resouces that OLPC and Sugar Labs
 have at the moment.

 Mel's response: To me, this is very clear - SL decides what version(s)
 of Sugar it will support, and deployments will decide what version(s) of
 Sugar they will use. Deployments don't have to use the supported version
 of Sugar, they just won't get support from SL if they do. :) And others
 (deployments or third-party entities) may step up to offer support for
 versions SL itself does not support.

 Your thoughts?

I think it's worth making explicit that the resources spent by SLs on
supporting a specific version are likely to come from deployments,
even if this activity happens inside SLs. This implies that
deployments will have a critical voice in what is considered supported
or not.

Regards,

Tomeu

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[IAEP] Who determines what version of Sugar is used in the field?

2010-07-11 Thread Mel Chua
(from the last SLOBs agenda-kickin', 
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2010-July/011343.html)

Question from Kevin Mark: Who should be the deciding organization for 
who determines what version of sugar is used in the field?

I was confused about the hierarchy of who should be the deciding 
organization for who determines what version of sugar is used in the 
field. There are more than 500,000 users and many people outside of OLPC 
and Sugar Labs that will have to support that choice (of using 0.88) as 
well as the support that OLPC and Sugar Labs in Boston and elsewhere 
will have to provide. I dont know how a new 3rd party like Activity 
Central is involved in this and what role they should be taking as they 
are untested and lacking the kind of resouces that OLPC and Sugar Labs 
have at the moment.

Mel's response: To me, this is very clear - SL decides what version(s) 
of Sugar it will support, and deployments will decide what version(s) of 
Sugar they will use. Deployments don't have to use the supported version 
of Sugar, they just won't get support from SL if they do. :) And others 
(deployments or third-party entities) may step up to offer support for 
versions SL itself does not support.

Your thoughts?

--Mel
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Re: [IAEP] Who determines what version of Sugar is used in the field?

2010-07-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:02 AM, Mel Chua m...@melchua.com wrote:
 Mel's response: To me, this is very clear - SL decides what version(s)
 of Sugar it will support, and deployments will decide what version(s) of
 Sugar they will use.

Exactly. That's a huge part of the Free in FOSS.

We can all stand on top of a mountain and declare that people should
run X, Y or Z software. But deployments take their own decisions.

cheers,



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