Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?
Here is another important point. We have a lot of Sugar and XO documentation at FLOSS Manuals, with only a few titles in Spanish. We are organizing a major push to get all of our materials translated. The manual for Terminal should be out in Spanish soon, and its translator promises another title ASAP. FM's new booki software has just gone live, with a new set of translation tools coming on line quite soon. Some of our titles would be of interest in Spanish-speaking countries even apart from Sugar, such as Introduction to the Command Line. Having materials in Spanish should help in the argument. Of course, there is a lot of other material, such as Plan CEIBAL's publications. On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 10:58, Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Am 20.03.2011 20:13, schrieb Edward Cherlin: Not an OLPC project, but there is a lot of Linux in the schools in Extremadura. You could talk to the local government about using Sugar on their laptops. http://news.squeak.org/2006/11/17/squeak-in-extremadura/ Have you asked on the OLPC-SUR list? Not yet, that's an excellent suggestion! :-) There seems to have been a very modest OLPC España effort, but its Wiki page has vanished away. Perhaps you can help restart it. On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 05:56, Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Hi all, as some of you might know I moved to Madrid about a month ago How's your Spanish? I'm half-decently fluent I'd say (you can hear a short sample at the beginning of this interview: http://portal.educ.ar/noticias/entrevistas/especialistas-modelos-11-talle-1.php). Thanks, Christoph and will be here at least until the end of May but possibly also until late summer. Now I was wondering whether anyone here knows people working on olpc/Sugar/ICT4E who are based here in Madrid or elsewhere in Spain? I've looked around quite a bit but unfortunately didn't find anything related to olpc/Sugar/ICT4E so far, plus similarly minded communities (e.g. LUGs, hacker spaces, etc.) also seem to be quite rare around here. Anyway, I'd appreciate any pointers, suggestions or contacts in this area. Thanks, Christoph -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, www.olpcnews.com e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, www.olpcnews.com e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?
While working at guadalinex I seriously pushed to include sugar. Resistance was futile as the Borg might say. You see they have a pretty established Linux environment that has many custom educational tools. It is an extremely uphill battle to get them using even a tiny part of sugar, and that coming from an ex-INSIDER. so good luck. Regards David On Mar 21, 2011 4:46 PM, Juan Rafael Fernández García jrf...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/3/21 Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at: Especially given how much Linux is used around schools in the country and that Latin America is... I'm also surprised that I've seen a bigger OLPC/Sugar community in France than in Spain. I have an explanation, though: PCs with some GNU Linux educational distro are deployed all around Spain, taken care of by the regional authorities, which makes the situation different from the French one (individual or local initiatives) or the Central/South American one (OLPC or similar hardware). Consider the case in Andalusia. All the computers, the thousands of them, are administered and updated remotely - so the operating system has to be the same all around, the network configuration and services, etc. From the Spanish point of view, Sugar running on GNU LInux, as an environment like Squeak, would be more interesting than as an alternative independent approach. IMHO. -- Juan Rafael Fernández http://people.ofset.org/jrfernandez/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?
If we take a step back I think David's observation really hits the nail on the head in a broader sense. While FLOSS solutions don't have the traditional vendor lock-in they do often seem to come with some sort of platform lock-in (as per David's example wrt custom educational tools). Hence for example in the Sugar context I think that the efforts by Walter and others to get a foot in the door of Argentina's Conectar Igualdad program early on is vitally important. Two, three years down the road it would probably take significantly more momentum to get Sugar accepted in an already established environment. As we'll probably see several initiatives similar to Conectar Igualdad in the coming years and it makes sense to reach out to them early on. Cheers, Christoph Am 22.03.2011 20:36, schrieb David Van Assche: While working at guadalinex I seriously pushed to include sugar. Resistance was futile as the Borg might say. You see they have a pretty established Linux environment that has many custom educational tools. It is an extremely uphill battle to get them using even a tiny part of sugar, and that coming from an ex-INSIDER. so good luck. Regards David On Mar 21, 2011 4:46 PM, Juan Rafael Fernández García jrf...@gmail.com mailto:jrf...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/3/21 Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at mailto:e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at: Especially given how much Linux is used around schools in the country and that Latin America is... I'm also surprised that I've seen a bigger OLPC/Sugar community in France than in Spain. I have an explanation, though: PCs with some GNU Linux educational distro are deployed all around Spain, taken care of by the regional authorities, which makes the situation different from the French one (individual or local initiatives) or the Central/South American one (OLPC or similar hardware). Consider the case in Andalusia. All the computers, the thousands of them, are administered and updated remotely - so the operating system has to be the same all around, the network configuration and services, etc. From the Spanish point of view, Sugar running on GNU LInux, as an environment like Squeak, would be more interesting than as an alternative independent approach. IMHO. -- Juan Rafael Fernández http://people.ofset.org/jrfernandez/ -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, www.olpcnews.com e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?
Bah... ok...perhaps that was a bit of harsh statement. meh would be better... However, I have met many south Americans down here who want to get involved and us the sugar environment in their future endevours once they return home. I worked for Guadalinex.-edu, the largest single Linux deployment in the world conclusion: Great softwware, not tailored enough for them (5 million computer, 500 laptops per year, Ubuntu latest, but via something complex like rsync or anything like that... that just made a great job at adding important parts if they were educational, and spoke about them the folllowing year to see if others might want to include it. The biggest advantage here is that because Spain now had over 10 years fo successfully using Linux in all areas of life, its just a mtter of showing any new things to make teahcers lives easier and really kissing their asses so they cna push the rest if spain. Its clear though, Linux is here to stay in Andalucia now hwat to u primtive northern folks say to that. kind regrads, David Van Assche [Please Please read above] On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Gustavo Ibarra ibarr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: Not an OLPC project, but there is a lot of Linux in the schools in Extremadura. You could talk to the local government about using Sugar on their laptops. http://news.squeak.org/2006/11/17/squeak-in-extremadura/ more related links: http://tinyurl.com/5w7ocee http://squeak.educarex.es/Squeakpolis squeakpo...@juntaextremadura.net Diego an José L worked in the squeak inextremadura project and as far as iknow they live in spain Diego Gomez Deck diegogomezd...@consultar.com José L. Redrejo Rodríguez jredr...@edu.juntaextremadura.net Have you asked on the OLPC-SUR list? There seems to have been a very modest OLPC España effort, but its Wiki page has vanished away. Perhaps you can help restart it. On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 05:56, Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Hi all, as some of you might know I moved to Madrid about a month ago How's your Spanish? and will be here at least until the end of May but possibly also until late summer. Now I was wondering whether anyone here knows people working on olpc/Sugar/ICT4E who are based here in Madrid or elsewhere in Spain? I've looked around quite a bit but unfortunately didn't find anything related to olpc/Sugar/ICT4E so far, plus similarly minded communities (e.g. LUGs, hacker spaces, etc.) also seem to be quite rare around here. Well the first step has been to try and get `people together here which is damn hard... Iv'e ad 4-5 people involed here and we are quickly moving towards creating a more ideas towards creating some sort of charter fo what is an ettiquette of sorts, but nothing too restrictive, more things like, if u'd like to something, then just set a non conflicting date and do it David Anyway, I'd appreciate any pointers, suggestions or contacts in this area. Thanks, Christoph -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, www.olpcnews.com e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Saludos, Gustavo.- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?
Gustavo, David, thanks for the information, background and links, keep 'em coming. Given the constraints of my situation (mainly time) the main (only) thing I'd like to do is try and establish some sort of olpc/Sugar presence while I'm here. Especially given how much Linux is used around schools in the country and that Latin America is the hotbed for all things OLPC and 1-to-1 computing at the moment I'm simply surprised that there's no established olpc/Sugar community here already. Cheers, Christoph Am 21.03.2011 15:03, schrieb David Van Assche: Bah... ok...perhaps that was a bit of harsh statement. meh would be better... However, I have met many south Americans down here who want to get involved and us the sugar environment in their future endevours once they return home. I worked for Guadalinex.-edu, the largest single Linux deployment in the world conclusion: Great softwware, not tailored enough for them (5 million computer, 500 laptops per year, Ubuntu latest, but via something complex like rsync or anything like that... that just made a great job at adding important parts if they were educational, and spoke about them the folllowing year to see if others might want to include it. The biggest advantage here is that because Spain now had over 10 years fo successfully using Linux in all areas of life, its just a mtter of showing any new things to make teahcers lives easier and really kissing their asses so they cna push the rest if spain. Its clear though, Linux is here to stay in Andalucia now hwat to u primtive northern folks say to that. kind regrads, David Van Assche [Please Please read above] On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Gustavo Ibarra ibarr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: Not an OLPC project, but there is a lot of Linux in the schools in Extremadura. You could talk to the local government about using Sugar on their laptops. http://news.squeak.org/2006/11/17/squeak-in-extremadura/ more related links: http://tinyurl.com/5w7ocee http://squeak.educarex.es/Squeakpolis squeakpo...@juntaextremadura.net Diego an José L worked in the squeak inextremadura project and as far as iknow they live in spain Diego Gomez Deckdiegogomezd...@consultar.com José L. Redrejo Rodríguez jredr...@edu.juntaextremadura.net Have you asked on the OLPC-SUR list? There seems to have been a very modest OLPC España effort, but its Wiki page has vanished away. Perhaps you can help restart it. On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 05:56, Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Hi all, as some of you might know I moved to Madrid about a month ago How's your Spanish? and will be here at least until the end of May but possibly also until late summer. Now I was wondering whether anyone here knows people working on olpc/Sugar/ICT4E who are based here in Madrid or elsewhere in Spain? I've looked around quite a bit but unfortunately didn't find anything related to olpc/Sugar/ICT4E so far, plus similarly minded communities (e.g. LUGs, hacker spaces, etc.) also seem to be quite rare around here. Well the first step has been to try and get `people together here which is damn hard... Iv'e ad 4-5 people involed here and we are quickly moving towards creating a more ideas towards creating some sort of charter fo what is an ettiquette of sorts, but nothing too restrictive, more things like, if u'd like to something, then just set a non conflicting date and do it David Anyway, I'd appreciate any pointers, suggestions or contacts in this area. Thanks, Christoph -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, www.olpcnews.com e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Saludos, Gustavo.- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, www.olpcnews.com e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?
2011/3/21 Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at: Especially given how much Linux is used around schools in the country and that Latin America is the hotbed for all things OLPC and 1-to-1 computing at the moment I'm simply surprised that there's no established olpc/Sugar community here already. I'm also surprised that I've seen a bigger OLPC/Sugar community in France than in Spain. I have an explanation, though: PCs with some GNU Linux educational distro are deployed all around Spain, taken care of by the regional authorities, which makes the situation different from the French one (individual or local initiatives) or the Central/South American one (OLPC or similar hardware). Consider the case in Andalusia. All the computers, the thousands of them, are administered and updated remotely - so the operating system has to be the same all around, the network configuration and services, etc. From the Spanish point of view, Sugar running on GNU LInux, as an environment like Squeak, would be more interesting than as an alternative independent approach. IMHO. -- Juan Rafael Fernández http://people.ofset.org/jrfernandez/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?
Not an OLPC project, but there is a lot of Linux in the schools in Extremadura. You could talk to the local government about using Sugar on their laptops. http://news.squeak.org/2006/11/17/squeak-in-extremadura/ Have you asked on the OLPC-SUR list? There seems to have been a very modest OLPC España effort, but its Wiki page has vanished away. Perhaps you can help restart it. On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 05:56, Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Hi all, as some of you might know I moved to Madrid about a month ago How's your Spanish? and will be here at least until the end of May but possibly also until late summer. Now I was wondering whether anyone here knows people working on olpc/Sugar/ICT4E who are based here in Madrid or elsewhere in Spain? I've looked around quite a bit but unfortunately didn't find anything related to olpc/Sugar/ICT4E so far, plus similarly minded communities (e.g. LUGs, hacker spaces, etc.) also seem to be quite rare around here. Anyway, I'd appreciate any pointers, suggestions or contacts in this area. Thanks, Christoph -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, www.olpcnews.com e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: Not an OLPC project, but there is a lot of Linux in the schools in Extremadura. You could talk to the local government about using Sugar on their laptops. http://news.squeak.org/2006/11/17/squeak-in-extremadura/ more related links: http://tinyurl.com/5w7ocee http://squeak.educarex.es/Squeakpolis squeakpo...@juntaextremadura.net Diego an José L worked in the squeak inextremadura project and as far as iknow they live in spain Diego Gomez Deckdiegogomezd...@consultar.com José L. Redrejo Rodríguez jredr...@edu.juntaextremadura.net Have you asked on the OLPC-SUR list? There seems to have been a very modest OLPC España effort, but its Wiki page has vanished away. Perhaps you can help restart it. On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 05:56, Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Hi all, as some of you might know I moved to Madrid about a month ago How's your Spanish? and will be here at least until the end of May but possibly also until late summer. Now I was wondering whether anyone here knows people working on olpc/Sugar/ICT4E who are based here in Madrid or elsewhere in Spain? I've looked around quite a bit but unfortunately didn't find anything related to olpc/Sugar/ICT4E so far, plus similarly minded communities (e.g. LUGs, hacker spaces, etc.) also seem to be quite rare around here. Anyway, I'd appreciate any pointers, suggestions or contacts in this area. Thanks, Christoph -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, www.olpcnews.com e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Saludos, Gustavo.- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?
In spain, most autonomous regions have their own distro, which means that in essence getting pro-linux, and even quite techinically savy folks in that domain should be pretty easy to find. I know Madrid itself has its own autonomous linux distro called distro MAX (Madrid Linux) Of course, it often becomes a marketing competition rather than something else, but it does mean a high usage of linux across the public board. Trying to get them to include new things though, is sometimes very very hard (example: sugar) But good luck, David Van Assche On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Gustavo Ibarra ibarr...@gmail.com wrote: you might want to write to Diego Gomez Deck http://diegogomezdeck.blogspot.com/ On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Hi all, as some of you might know I moved to Madrid about a month ago and will be here at least until the end of May but possibly also until late summer. Now I was wondering whether anyone here knows people working on olpc/Sugar/ICT4E who are based here in Madrid or elsewhere in Spain? I've looked around quite a bit but unfortunately didn't find anything related to olpc/Sugar/ICT4E so far, plus similarly minded communities (e.g. LUGs, hacker spaces, etc.) also seem to be quite rare around here. Anyway, I'd appreciate any pointers, suggestions or contacts in this area. Thanks, Christoph -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, www.olpcnews.com e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Saludos, Gustavo.- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 10:02 AM, David Van Assche dvanass...@gmail.comwrote: In spain, most autonomous regions have their own distro, which means that in essence getting pro-linux, and even quite techinically savy folks in that domain should be pretty easy to find. I know Madrid itself has its own autonomous linux distro called distro MAX (Madrid Linux) Of course, it often becomes a marketing competition rather than something else, but it does mean a high usage of linux across the public board. Trying to get them to include new things though, is sometimes very very hard (example: sugar) Note that Trisquel, and Trisquel On A Sugar Toast, http://trisquel.info/en/trisquel-sugar have been leaders in Sugar distribution. http://trisquel.info/en/faq --Fred But good luck, David Van Assche ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?
2011/3/18 Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at: Now I was wondering whether anyone here knows people working on olpc/Sugar/ICT4E who are based here in Madrid or elsewhere in Spain? Sorry, can't help here plus similarly minded communities (e.g. LUGs, hacker spaces, etc.) also seem to be quite rare around here. Well, in a country in which several hundred thousands of computers in schools use FOSS, maybe your observation is not very accurate. MAX is the name of the GNU Linux distro used in Madrid, you may start trying to contact them, there's a very active group (I live some 600km from Madrid, in Andalusia). Maybe these pointers could help you: http://speeches.ofset.org/jrfernandez/rmll2006/present_distros_en.pdf (2006) http://www.juntadeandalucia.es/averroes/html/adjuntos/2010/05/31/0002/index.html (2010) -- Juan Rafael Fernández http://people.ofset.org/jrfernandez/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: olpc/Sugar/ICT4E who are based here in Madrid or elsewhere in Spain? In Spain the Moodle community is very strong -- peaks around Catalunya. Vasque country is strong on alternative linux distros for education (non-Sugar afaik). Again, Madrid is a bit weaker on this track. Maybe post in moodle.org's Spanish forum? m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?
you might want to write to Diego Gomez Deck http://diegogomezdeck.blogspot.com/ On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Hi all, as some of you might know I moved to Madrid about a month ago and will be here at least until the end of May but possibly also until late summer. Now I was wondering whether anyone here knows people working on olpc/Sugar/ICT4E who are based here in Madrid or elsewhere in Spain? I've looked around quite a bit but unfortunately didn't find anything related to olpc/Sugar/ICT4E so far, plus similarly minded communities (e.g. LUGs, hacker spaces, etc.) also seem to be quite rare around here. Anyway, I'd appreciate any pointers, suggestions or contacts in this area. Thanks, Christoph -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, www.olpcnews.com e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Saludos, Gustavo.- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
