Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 97, Issue 75

[Laura Vargas]

As Sugar is the libre software we are building/supporting for children of
all continents to learn with, it's vision should include the promotion of a
lot of exchange of cutural, cientific and functional best
practices/cases/projects among all children.

Hopefully this vision can continue progressing as you get the list moving
forward.

Please note that is not the same to talk about a Sugar Labs Local Lab than
a Sugar+XO Deployment. Historically, the braves who started a Lab did it as
a result of a Sugar+XO Intervention.

Usually, the deployments/interventions have "managers" (private or public)
that manage the day to day operations. That is different from the Local Lab
volunteers/professionals who are/could be offering
support/research/development/localization/etc.

Just to give you an idea, the table list to Rafael Ortiz en Colombia as a
reference for contact, but he was not involved with any intervention
directly. He was one of the group that gather to create the Colombian Local
Lab (Fundación Sugar Labs).

Latter on, when I joined ~2011, I asked Sandra Barragán (OLPC sales manager
at that point) for Colombian deployments information and she provided the
following link that list +20 different deployments/interventions:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/1/viewer?hl=es&oe=UTF8&vps=2&msa=0&ie=UTF8&jsv=308a&authuser=1&mid=zvPH5wm70EJU.kvdZHcipBm3E

Most likely Claudia Urrea, SLOB and former Director of Learning at OLPC
Association [1], already has a table with all the "managers and educators"
contacts from the deployments/interventions that can be shared at this
point with the community.

Best regards and blessing,
Laura V

[1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Claudia_Urrea




2016-04-24 12:53 GMT+08:00 Tony Anderson :

> Hi, Dave
>
> Everything possible.
>
> For a simple example. If Uruguay is allowing learners to take laptops
> home; how is charging handled? In Rwanda, we discovered that
> few homes had electricity. This would mean laptops taken home would be
> returned with empty batteries. The school is set up to charge the
> laptops in charging racks. Charging them in class time would mean running
> power strips all over the floor of the classroom potentially endangering
> students and the laptops (dragged to the floor). In Nepal, wear and tear on
> the XOs proved too expensive so laptops now stay in the school. After
> school opportunities are a good alternative, except in many schools
> students walk several miles to and from school. This means they can not
> stay back for after school activities. In schools with two shifts there
> would lots of time for 'before' or 'after' school activities. However, the
> schools do not have classroom space beyond for the active classes.
>
> Every deployment I have encountered is different, information about them
> would be invaluable and would give us an opportunity to provide more
> effective support. I think the first priority is to find the deployments
> and identify a contact who could provide us with good current information.
>
> Tony
>
>
> On 04/24/2016 12:21 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:
>
>
> On 23 April 2016 at 23:45, Tony Anderson  wrote:
>
>> I really wish we had more information on where and how XOs are used in
>> the field
>
>
> What information do you think we should find out?
>
>
>
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Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 97, Issue 75

[Tony Anderson]

Hi, Dave

Everything possible.

For a simple example. If Uruguay is allowing learners to take laptops 
home; how is charging handled? In Rwanda, we discovered that
few homes had electricity. This would mean laptops taken home would be 
returned with empty batteries. The school is set up to charge the
laptops in charging racks. Charging them in class time would mean 
running power strips all over the floor of the classroom potentially 
endangering students and the laptops (dragged to the floor). In Nepal, 
wear and tear on the XOs proved too expensive so laptops now stay in the 
school. After school opportunities are a good alternative, except in 
many schools students walk several miles to and from school. This means 
they can not stay back for after school activities. In schools with two 
shifts there would lots of time for 'before' or 'after' school 
activities. However, the schools do not have classroom space beyond for 
the active classes.


Every deployment I have encountered is different, information about them 
would be invaluable and would give us an opportunity to provide more 
effective support. I think the first priority is to find the deployments 
and identify a contact who could provide us with good current information.


Tony

On 04/24/2016 12:21 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:


On 23 April 2016 at 23:45, Tony Anderson > wrote:


I really wish we had more information on where and how XOs are
used in the field


What information do you think we should find out?


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Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 97, Issue 75

[Dave Crossland]

On 23 April 2016 at 23:45, Tony Anderson  wrote:

> I really wish we had more information on where and how XOs are used in the
> field


What information do you think we should find out?
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Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 97, Issue 75

[Tony Anderson]

Hi, Caryl

Of course, you are right. I really wish we had more information on where 
and how XOs are used in the field. All I know is the experience of the

small number of deployments I am supporting.

Tony

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Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 15:32:20 -0600
From: Caryl Bigenho 
To: Dave Crossland , Sean Daly 
Cc: Laura Vargas , "iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org"

Subject: Re: [IAEP] Is "Most Sugar Users Use XO Laptops" True?
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Hi Dave,
At the risk of sounding like someone on snopes or politifact, that is "mostly 
true."  However, even though it is in the classroom, it may not be during regular 
class time. Sometimes it will be after school in a science club or robotics club. Other 
times students might be working together on some kind of media projects using the Sugar 
Software, etc. The possibilities are almost limitedless.
In Uruguay, where there are many more XOs than any other country, the students 
are allowed to take their machines home. They may be using them at home to 
complete a special assignment or conduct some simple scientific research. 
Sometimes they might also be sharing it with parents or grandparents, teaching 
them how to use it.
But, yes, most are probably being used at the school, even if it may not be 
during regular class time.
Caryl

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Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 15:27:42 -0400
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Is "Most Sugar Users Use XO Laptops" True?
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CC: la...@somosazucar.org; cbige...@hotmail.com; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org

Hi
Okay cool.
Laura, I agree about the importance of Spanish.

My next question:
Does anyone disagree with the assertion that "most Sugar use is in a 
school/classroom setting"?
Cheers
Dave

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Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 22:18:03 -0400
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Conversely it's possible much/most Sugar use is now happening outside of
classes (and outside of classrooms too!) in homes/libraries/cybercafes/etc
at last?  At this late stage in OLPC's history, and not just in Uruguay?

Is Uruguay actively using Sugar in 2016 and if so how?  Who can tell
urban/rural/young/old perspectives across Uruguay/Rwanda/etc in 2016?

Certainly I keep running into more and more XO laptops that have moved far
beyond their originally-stated scholastic purposes...is it time for
"Child/Tween/Millenial Ownership" action at long at last?!

http ://
wiki.laptop.org
/go/OLPC:Five_principles


Where are the true community anthropologists like Morgan Ames (and Margaret
Mead) when we need them?!
Hi Dave,

At the risk of sounding like someone on snopes or politifact, that is
"mostly true."  However, even though it is in the classroom, it may not be
during regular class time. Sometimes it will be after school in a science
club or robotics club. Other times students might be working together on
some kind of media projects using the Sugar Software, etc. The
possibilities are almost limitedless.

In Uruguay, where there are many more XOs than any other country, the
students are allowed to take their machines home. They may be using them at
home to complete a special assignment or conduct some simple scientific
research. Sometimes they might also be sharing it with parents or
grandparents, teaching them how to use it.

But, yes, most are probably being used at the school, even if it may not be
during regular class time.

Caryl

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Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 15:27:42 -0400
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Is "Most Sugar Users Use XO Laptops" Tr