Re: Anyone Running zIIP Yet?

2006-05-10 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Just curious if anyone is running zIIP yet, at least in testing, and has 
experiences to report.

They aren't being shipped in North America, yet.

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Re: DB2 Problem Urgent

2006-05-10 Thread Jacky Bright

Hi david thanks for response ...

do u mean RESTORE DB2 database data Volumes (which were backed up previous
end of day) and then logapply and these logs are nothing but archive logs
generated after previous end of day.(and not all archive logs generated
after last imagecopy ??)

Is it easy to restore DB2 VSAM datasets ?how ? or all database volumes
restoration required to be done.


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You just have to do a restore of the datasets and then a logapply, you
don't
have to use imagecopy.

RECOVER TABLESPACE xxx
TO LOGPOINT

REBUILD INDEX (ALL)
TABLESPACE xxx

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Onderwerp: Re: DB2 Problem Urgent

can anyone respond to this ??

On 5/10/06, Jacky Bright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi

 I have query with regard to DB2 restoration ...

 In case you have the DB2 Volume day end backup and next day's DB2
Archive
 datasets backup .. then is it possible to restore DB2 using those db2
volume
 level backup and archive datasets.

 In order to apply DB2 Archives is it necessary to have latest db2
database
 imagecopy and all archive datasets generated thereafter ?


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gains with compiled REXX

2006-05-10 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
Hi,

Performance/time gains with compiled REXX?
The answer is 'it depends' of course.

But any experiences to share?
Have benchmarks been done at your knowledge?
Is there some material available about which areas compilation can add value?

Jan

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SV: gains with compiled REXX

2006-05-10 Thread Thomas Berg
If most of the runtime of a rexx is executing host commands (TSO commands etc.) 
then a compilation will benefit only a little.
But if the time spending at executing only rexxcode is significant You will 
gain significant performance gains.
For intensive use of rexxcode You can often run the same code 5 times faster 
compiled.

Note that if You is calling an external subroutine from a compiled rexx You 
better INCLUDE that subroutine in the main loadmodule.
Otherwise will the subroutine be loaded from STEPLIB at every call to it.  
(Imagine calling the subroutine for ever record on a file...)

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 Hi,
 
 Performance/time gains with compiled REXX?
 The answer is 'it depends' of course.
 
 But any experiences to share?
 Have benchmarks been done at your knowledge?
 Is there some material available about which areas 
 compilation can add value?
 
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Re: Anyone Running zIIP Yet?

2006-05-10 Thread Marian Gasparovic

They will start shipping for z9 BC on May 26th.

On 5/10/06, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Just curious if anyone is running zIIP yet, at least in testing, and has
experiences to report.

They aren't being shipped in North America, yet.

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Re: control block overview

2006-05-10 Thread Chris Mason
Shmuel,

I seem to remember that, if you couldn't find your control block macro in
SYS1.MACLIB, you should try SYS1.MODGEN.

Chris Mason

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 You might also simply go to sys1.maclib and read the
 control block descriptions in macros whose names
 start with IHA...

 Not just SYS1.MACLIB and not just IHA.

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HSM and GDG all requests

2006-05-10 Thread Mark Jacobs
We have in the past couple of weeks had users perform a HRECALL on a GDG
base entry. This causes all migrated datasets to be recalled. This is
causing havoc with out storage groups.

 

Is there any reason why the following wouldn't work.

 

Use an IEFDB401 Dynamic Allocation Parameter Validation Exit to perform
the following checks

 

1)   Is it a GDG ALL Request? (Using IGGCSI00 catalog search
interface)

2)   No. Allow request

3)   Is JOBNAME == HSM

4)   Yes. Deny request.

5)   Else allow request.

 

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Time Customer Service Inc.

 

 


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Re: HSM and GDG all requests

2006-05-10 Thread Steve Flynn

On 10/05/06, Mark Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We have in the past couple of weeks had users perform a HRECALL on a GDG
base entry. This causes all migrated datasets to be recalled. This is
causing havoc with out storage groups.

Is there any reason why the following wouldn't work.

Use an IEFDB401 Dynamic Allocation Parameter Validation Exit to perform
the following checks

1)   Is it a GDG ALL Request? (Using IGGCSI00 catalog search
interface)

2)   No. Allow request

3)   Is JOBNAME == HSM

4)   Yes. Deny request.

5)   Else allow request.


What happens when a batch job wants to alloc an entire GDG base and
then read all the generations, via a straightforward

//GDGBASE  DD DSN=SOME.GDG.BASE,DISP=SHR

Will that get past your exit and be allowed? In this case the
recalling user will be the userid the job is running under and
therefore will be denied according to your pseudocode, wont it?

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Re: HSM and GDG all requests

2006-05-10 Thread Mark Jacobs
The dynamic allocation should be under HSM for the recall. After the
recall is performed the actual GDG all request is no longer a dynamic
allocation and the IEFDB401 exit should no longer see it.

Mark Jacobs
Time Customer Service Inc.

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Subject: Re: HSM and GDG all requests

On 10/05/06, Mark Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We have in the past couple of weeks had users perform a HRECALL on a
GDG
 base entry. This causes all migrated datasets to be recalled. This is
 causing havoc with out storage groups.

 Is there any reason why the following wouldn't work.

 Use an IEFDB401 Dynamic Allocation Parameter Validation Exit to
perform
 the following checks

 1)   Is it a GDG ALL Request? (Using IGGCSI00 catalog search
 interface)

 2)   No. Allow request

 3)   Is JOBNAME == HSM

 4)   Yes. Deny request.

 5)   Else allow request.

What happens when a batch job wants to alloc an entire GDG base and
then read all the generations, via a straightforward

//GDGBASE  DD DSN=SOME.GDG.BASE,DISP=SHR

Will that get past your exit and be allowed? In this case the
recalling user will be the userid the job is running under and
therefore will be denied according to your pseudocode, wont it?

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Re: control block overview

2006-05-10 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34)
Shmuel,
I seem to remember that, if you couldn't find your control 
block macro in SYS1.MACLIB, you should try SYS1.MODGEN. 

I'm sure *he* knows but for unknown reasons he didn't want 
to tell the original poster.

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HMC : Dynamic I/O

2006-05-10 Thread Ed Micucci
We want to turn on the Allow dynamic changes to the channel subsystem
input/output (I/O) definition switch on the HMC.  But this will require
storage, and I can not find reference as to how much.  We currently have all
available storage tied up among our LPARs.  So I must steal some storage
from an LPAR, and I'd like to keep it to the minimum.  Any info will be
greatly appreciated.

Ed Micucci

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Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-10 Thread John Dawes
Charles,
   
  I tried your suggestion and it was an excellent one.  I was able to download 
the pds.  
   
  Thanks to all for responding.
  
Charles Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  C:\FTP 12.34.56.78 [or whatever your mainframe's IP address or URL is]
userid
password
lcd whatever Windows folder you want to put the members in
cd my.PDS.name
mget *
[hit enter for every prompt - alternatively use the prompt command first to
turn off prompting]
quit

You can get help on these sub-commands by entering help commandname from
within FTP.

The other FTP programs tend to be more graphical and Windows-like. If you
will be doing this often, one of these would be a good investment of your
time. You may have firewall issues on your mainframe that the Windows FTP
client cannot solve, but the third-party clients can. One decent Windows FTP
client is Ipswitch WS_FTP. The lite version was free, last I knew. Google
knows where to find it.

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Re: DB2 Problem Urgent

2006-05-10 Thread Mike Bell

The parm you want is RECOVER LOGONLY - This is discussed in DB2
administration guide and the utilities manual.
The short answer is both DF/DSS, FDR and all the products that do volume
backups can easily do volume restores or dataset restores with the one
exception of multi-volume datasets - then you need to get the manual out -
it is recoverable just not as easy.

Next step is DB2 RECOVER tablespace LOGONLY - DB2 keeps track of starting
and ending rba's or LRSN's for updates so it will only read the archive logs
required. for the recovery.  If the archive logs are in HSM or something, it
will recall them and apply the log records.
If you have a big DB2 subsystem, this can take a long time to read archive
logs.

Once this completes, you can REBUILD the indexes and use the table. You
should take an image copy at this point since you no longer have a normal
recovery point.

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Re: rexx or other macro processor on z/os?

2006-05-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) said:

 Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 00:23:16 -0300
 
 JCL tailoring is a nightmare.
 
 Only if you didn't create your JCL with File Tailoring in  mind.
 
They (not I) didn't.  Which is why I regularized it.

But my base complaint is with the original and persisting
design of JCL, which was created without file tailoring in
mind.  Yes, file tailoring existed in those days and should
have been a consideration, even in the rudimentary form of
inserting in or removing from a deck of punched cards one
card containing a single option without the need to add
or remove a comma from the preceding line.

This technique was well enough known to FORTRAN (at least)
programmers prior to the invention of JCL: Always put
a label on a CONTINUE, not a nontrivial statement, lest
you later need to insert another statement before or after
that statement.

Improvement is still possible:

o Provide explicit assertion of default values for all
  keyword options, such as TYPRUN=NORMAL, or even
  simply TYPRUN=.

o Provide a dummy keyword option (e.g. SKIP=) to use as
  a placeholder.  This would serve the same valuable purpose
  as FORTRAN's CONTINUE, or a . alone on a line at the end
  of a list of SMP/E options, or a blank line at the end of a
  list of IDCAMS options each of which is followed by -.
  E.g.:

  //NAME  JOB  programmer,account,
  //  TYPRUN=HOLD,  /* This line may be deleted.  */
  //  SKIP=

  or, even:

  //STEP  EXEC  PGM=IEFBR14,
  //  SKIP=

  to allow inserting, perhaps, COND=whatever.  (But there
  is an explicit default for COND, viz. COND=(0,GT).)
  Ideally, such a dummy option should be distinguished by
  being allowed to appear multiple times on a single statement.

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Re: DB2 Problem Urgent

2006-05-10 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 5/10/2006 7:51:01 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

backups  can easily do volume restores or dataset restores with the one
exception of  multi-volume datasets - then you need to get the manual out -
it is  recoverable just not as easy.




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Re: rexx or other macro processor on z/os?

2006-05-10 Thread McKown, John
Interesting concept of a place holding, do nothing JCL parameter. I
wonder if a JES exit could implement this? Just thinking out loud, so to
speak, er write.

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Re: rexx or other macro processor on z/os?

2006-05-10 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 5/10/2006 8:40:31 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Interesting concept of a place holding, do nothing JCL parameter.  I
wonder if a JES exit could implement this? Just thinking out loud, so  to




Yeah, but where you gonna find a coder these days or one to support it down  
the road? Iffen it ain't point and click nobody wants to hear about  it

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IFAPRD00 reporting from Batch

2006-05-10 Thread Paula Zankel
I don't want to re-invent the wheel, but searches for an existing batch 
report facility for the contents of IFAPRD00 have been fruitless.  The 
command /D PROD,STATE only runs from the current system, and I want to use 
dataset input.  Does anyone have any suggestions?

Paula Zankel
DISA Systems Support Office
Mechanicsburg, PA

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Re: IFAPRD00 reporting from Batch

2006-05-10 Thread Rob Scott
Paula,

The MXI command SOFT produces a report based largely on IFAEDLIS
output (IFAEDLIS being the IBM API into IFAPRDxx). 


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I don't want to re-invent the wheel, but searches for an existing batch
report facility for the contents of IFAPRD00 have been fruitless.  The
command /D PROD,STATE only runs from the current system, and I want to
use dataset input.  Does anyone have any suggestions?

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Re: gains with compiled REXX

2006-05-10 Thread Dave Salt
I wrote an article about this exact subject in the April 2006 edition of 
Technical Support magazine. Part 2 of the article (appearing in the May 2006 
issue) discusses some of the differences between the two main formats of 
compiled REXX; i.e. CEXEC versus OBJ. The June issue discusses 
inter-relationships between various compile options.


In a nutshell, if REXX is compiled using the IBM REXX/370 compiler, the 
resulting executable (whether in CEXEC or OBJ format) will run anywhere from 
0 to 10 times faster than interpreted REXX. If the REXX is compiled using 
anything other than the IBM compiler, all bets are off.


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Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 07:27:06 +

Hi,

Performance/time gains with compiled REXX?
The answer is 'it depends' of course.

But any experiences to share?
Have benchmarks been done at your knowledge?
Is there some material available about which areas compilation can add 
value?


Jan

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Re: rexx or other macro processor on z/os?

2006-05-10 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Wed, 10 May 2006 10:06:27 EDT, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 5/10/2006 8:40:31 A.M. CDT, John McKown wrote:

Interesting concept of a place holding, do nothing JCL parameter.  I
wonder if a JES exit could implement this? Just thinking out loud...


Yeah, but where you gonna find a coder these days or one to support it down
the road? Iffen it ain't point and click nobody wants to hear about  it
 

Ed, 
Your statement is a popularly repeated myth but inaccurate.  Coders CAN be 
found and they will continue to exist.  Corporate CIOs like to push the 
myth because it gets them bigger budgets and vendors like to push the myth 
because they employ some of the coders.  Would you buy a used car from any 
CIO or most vendors?  I wouldn't!  
 
This list, for example, has plenty of bench strength to provide an ample 
supply of such coders for years to come, if not decades.  Dice.com is 
another source, as well as Monster.com and the list goes on and on.  
 
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Sad news: A mother of programming passes away

2006-05-10 Thread Knutson, Sam
Sad news: A mother of programming passes away

http://cwflyris.computerworld.com/t/508047/844597/18429/0/

http://www.witi.com/center/witimuseum/halloffame/1997/eniac.php

Interesting the WITI address where Kay Antonelli was inducted into the
WITI HOF was made by Linda Sanford (IBM). The generations are tied
together in many ways.  

Kathleen McNulty Mauchley Antonelli
12 February 1921 - 20 April 2006
Sadly, one of the mothers of computing has passed away. Kay McNulty was
a mathematics major when she graduated from Chestnut Hill College in
1942. That summer she answered a WOMEN WANTED! ad placed by the US
government, and then spent several years as one of the women computers
who calculated trajectories for the war effort, working at the Moore
School of Engineering at the University of Pennsylvania.

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Re: rexx or other macro processor on z/os?

2006-05-10 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 5/10/2006 10:34:58 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Your  statement is a popularly repeated myth but inaccurate.  Coders CAN be  
found and they will continue to exist.  Corporate CIOs like to push  the 
myth because it gets them bigger budgets and vendors like to push the  myth 



Rubbish. Clerks(mult-lingual) used to debug ALC for students as well as  
mount tapes in a pinch. Most of the silver backs on this list are not gonna 
make  
it to the next decade or so. They can be found but are not plentiful or cheap. 
 The rest are converting to *Nix or contemplating early retirement. Who you 
gonna  call at o'dark thirty, Exit busters?

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VSAM Extent Consolidation

2006-05-10 Thread Ben Alford
VSAM Extent Consolidation is documented in the DFSMS Using Data Sets
manual and is listed as a change for z/OS V1.5. According to apar OA7989
this feature could cause a problem when a VSAM dataset from z/OS V1.5 or
up was shared with z/OS V1.4, which did not have the same support. The
apar provided toleration support.

Unfortunately, the manual says the Extent Consolidation isn't supported
for non-SMS datasets.
Bummer.

Ben Alford Enterprise Systems Programming
University of Tennessee

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Re: rexx or other macro processor on z/os?

2006-05-10 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Wed, 10 May 2006 12:05:40 EDT, Ed Finnell wrote:

In a message dated 5/10/2006 10:34:58 A.M. TS in Central Daylight Time, 
writes:

Your  statement is a popularly repeated myth but inaccurate.  Coders CAN 
be found and they will continue to exist.  Corporate CIOs like to push  
the myth because it gets them bigger budgets and vendors like to push 
the myth... (snipped by Ed because he got tired?)  

Rubbish. Clerks(mult-lingual) used to debug ALC for students as well as
mount tapes in a pinch. Most of the silver backs on this list are not 
gonna make it to the next decade or so. They can be found but are not 
plentiful or cheap.  
 
Your argument refutes itself:  
 
If the clerks (mult(i)-lingual) used to exist to debug ALC for students 
then they either (a) still exist and could help if their skills were 
refreshed or (b) could easily be reconstituted from a similar mix (just 
add water).  
 
Seriously, ALC isn't magic and isn't particularly difficult to learn.  (It 
is easier to learn than, say, Chinese... and (surprise!) there are a 
growing number of Chinese who are, in fact, learning mainframes now - maybe 
that's your supply?  
 
 
 The rest are converting to *Nix or contemplating early retirement. 
 
Early retirement won't last -- there are ample reasons to believe the 
retirees will come back or work (at least) part time.  Your local Wal-Mart 
doesn't have a monopoly on retirement jobs (and doesn't pay well enough to 
be considered a strong competitor in the ALC marketplace, for sure).  
 
 Who you gonna  call at o'dark thirty, Exit busters?  
 
Why not?  
 

And as for the why aren't university students signing up for CompSci 
majors anymore? question -- have you seriously looked at many CompSci 
department's courses these days?  They STINK!!  I thought about going back 
for additional work and couldn't believe the mess my former university had 
become.  I checked around - they compete but they seem to be competing 
for a multi-way tie for last place.  (The local U won't see any of my 
money either.)  
 
I was very disappointed and entirely unimpressed.  
 
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(no where near retirement age - I've got a good decade-and-a-half at 
least!)  
 

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Re: rexx or other macro processor on z/os?

2006-05-10 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
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 Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:06 AM
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 Subject: Re: rexx or other macro processor on z/os?
 
 
  

snip

 Rubbish. Clerks(mult-lingual) used to debug ALC for students 
 as well as  
 mount tapes in a pinch. Most of the silver backs on this list 
 are not gonna make  
 it to the next decade or so. They can be found but are not 
 plentiful or cheap. 
  The rest are converting to *Nix or contemplating early 
 retirement. Who you 
 gonna  call at o'dark thirty, Exit busters?

If the oppertunity were given to me to go into the *NIX (especially
z/Linux) arena, I would hop on it. But, here at least, the *NIX people
are in the same group as the Windows people and are expected to
support Windows. I don't do Windows!

Businesses seem to be going, for good or ill, towards standardized plug
and play IT. That's why they like Windows especially. No user
serviceable parts inside makes it easier to replace one MSCE with
another MSCE and there is little difference (ignoring the idiots who can
pass a test without having any real knowledge - I've known some). We are
going in that direction as well. The days of customized programming
seem to be numbered for most businesses.

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Re: rexx or other macro processor on z/os?

2006-05-10 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Finnell
  
 In a message dated 5/10/2006 10:34:58 A.M. Central Standard 
 Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Your  statement is a popularly repeated myth but inaccurate.  
 Coders CAN be found and they will continue to exist.  
 Corporate CIOs like to push  the myth because it gets them 
 bigger budgets and vendors like to push the  myth 
 
 
 Rubbish. Clerks(mult-lingual) used to debug ALC for students 
 as well as mount tapes in a pinch. Most of the silver backs 
 on this list are not gonna make it to the next decade or so. 
 They can be found but are not plentiful or cheap. 
  The rest are converting to *Nix or contemplating early 
 retirement. Who you gonna  call at o'dark thirty, Exit busters?

How badly do you want/need it fixed?  How much would leaving it busted
cost?

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Re: rexx or other macro processor on z/os?

2006-05-10 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 5/10/2006 11:27:35 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

refreshed or (b) could easily be reconstituted from a similar mix  (just 
add water).  





Last I checked, nursing home visiting hours are 6-7 five days a week. They  
were ALC knowledgable by osmosis. Usually the director or assistant taught ALC  
or advanced algorithms now they teach Word. So in reviewing the syllabus 
and/or  class handouts they picked up
a good working knowledge. Now they get reboot or reformat the hard  drive.
 
What's a good number for Exit busters? You willing to wait while you corps  
business is belly up?  

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Re: DB2 Problem Urgent

2006-05-10 Thread Heloisa Soares
Jacky

   This group is for MVS. I believe there is a DB2 group that would be 
more helpful.
If you want to bring all the databases and DB2 catalog up to the point 
when it went bad, you do need all the archived logs.
The best way to recover DB2 is with image copies and archived logs. Volume 
copies do not bring DB2 to a consistent point. You may have to do a 
Conditional Restart. Get your DBAs and DB2 support together.
DB2 Administration Guide and DB2 Utility Reference Guide are good 
references.

Good Luck,

Heloisa

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Re: HMC : Dynamic I/O

2006-05-10 Thread Neubert, Kevin (DIS)
I believe the I/O configuration display command mentioned should be D
IOS,CONFIG(HSA).

Regards,

Kevin

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It depends on the processor type you have and whether you have FICON, or
not.

The z/990 tends towards a GIG for HSA, and you need at least a 50%
cushion.
But, I would plan for twice as much as you are currently using.

You can display the memory usage through the HMC (I forget how).
Or, you can figure it out by how much you have installed vs how much you
have allocated to LPARs.

D IOS,HSA

Only displays the number of devices defined, NOT memory (at least the
last time I looked).


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Re: HMC : Dynamic I/O

2006-05-10 Thread Ed Micucci
Ted,

We have NO storage available for this.  I will have to steal some from a
test LPAR.  So I'm looking for the minimal amount needed.  We're running a
z890.  

Ed

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Quantifying SME Apply Check Hold Reasons.

2006-05-10 Thread Howard Rifkind
My mangement is asking me that after doing an apply check on various FMID's 
that I some how quantify how much work there will be to researching what is 
needed to resolve these holds.
   
  I have no idea how to measure this.  Number of holds, by error hold reason 
grouped together...what?
   
  Any suggestions will be appreicated.
   
  Thanks.


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Like to generate a software inventory for shopz

2006-05-10 Thread Thomas Lawrence
I tried an installed features list, but that is not acceptable to the shopz
folks. Like some JCL, if I may. ;)

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DDR Swap - Yes or No? Unconditional?

2006-05-10 Thread Edward Jaffe
We run tape backups from TSM and HSM every day. Once in a while, some 
sort of I/O error occurs. This morning it was:


*IEC501A M 1502,PRIVAT,SL,NOCOMP,TIVSM,TIVSM,TIVSM.BFS
IAT5918 MVS60JES3V1R 1502, , , , ,PRIVAT
IEC705I TAPE ON 1502,A00118,SL,NOCOMP,TIVSM,TIVSM,TIVSM.BFS,MEDIA3
IAT5918 MVS60JES3V1R 1502, , , , ,A00118
IEC271I MESSAGE DISPLAY 'A00118' ON 1502 ISSUED BY JOB TIVSM
IOS000I 1502,13,IOE,01,0600,,**,A00118,TIVSM 856
 0A4414D050405050 0001FF00 0303023539335490 4B042300B18B1315
 WRITE ERROR DETECTED
*IGF500I  SWAP 1502 TO 1500 - I/O ERROR
*0934 IGF500D  REPLY 'YES', DEVICE, OR 'NO'

Unlike most of you reading this, we don't have professional operators. 
Rather, we have employees doing other jobs that inspect the console from 
time-to-time and try to resolve any issues that might arise. Every time 
a DDR SWAP is requested like this, they unilaterally reply NO -- which 
fails the in-progress operation without giving the system a chance to 
recover. Clearly, there is some fear, uncertainty, and doubt about what 
a DDR SWAP is and what it might do if allowed to continue. 
(Consequently, I've never actually seen one complete! I would probably 
specify YES and see what happens. But that's just me...)


Question: Is the response to IGF500D something I can/should automate? Is 
it safe to unconditionally respond YES? Is there any reason I shouldn't?


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Re: Like to generate a software inventory for shopz

2006-05-10 Thread McKown, John
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 I tried an installed features list, but that is not 
 acceptable to the shopz
 folks. Like some JCL, if I may. ;)

Here is something that I used. You'll need to customize it. The download
the HFS file pointed to by the SMPXTOUT dd statement.

//STEP1EXEC PGM=GIMXSID,PARM='WAIT=10MIN,L=ENU'
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SMPOUT   DD SYSOUT=*
//SMPXTOUT DD PATH='/home1000/TSH009/consinv.bin',
//PATHOPTS=(OWRONLY,OCREAT,OTRUNC),
//FILEDATA=BINARY,PATHMODE=(SIRWXU,SIRWXG,SIRWXO)
//SYSINDD DATA,DLM=$$
CSI=SMPE16.GLOBAL.CSI
TARGET=MVST100
CSI=TS13.GZONE.CSI
TARGET=TZONE
$$


SMPE16.GLOBAL.CSI is the global SMP/E dataset for my z/OS 1.6 system.
TS13.GZONE.CSI is the global SMP/E dataset for my CICS/TS 1.3 product.

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Re: HMC : Dynamic I/O

2006-05-10 Thread Knutson, Sam
IBM Resource Link has an HSA Estimator look under Tools for z9.  z990
had it on the HMC.  I don't recall if it's on the z890 HMC.  

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Ted,

We have NO storage available for this.  I will have to steal some from a
test LPAR.  So I'm looking for the minimal amount needed.  We're running
a z890.  

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Re: Like to generate a software inventory for shopz

2006-05-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, McKown, John said:

 Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 13:46:37 -0500
 
 //SMPXTOUT DD PATH='/home1000/TSH009/consinv.bin',
 //PATHOPTS=(OWRONLY,OCREAT,OTRUNC),
 //FILEDATA=BINARY,PATHMODE=(SIRWXU,SIRWXG,SIRWXO)
 ^  ^ ^^
Why is this specified as executable?

For that matter, why is it world-writeable?

Is this just a matter of expedience: the least protection
gives you the fewest JCL errors?  Of course, I suppose that
if the parent directory isn't world-searchable, there's some
protection.  I don't believe UNIX security is as weak as
reputed hereabouts; it's often just bad habits of UNIX
programmers.  (umask has no effect in JCL, has it?)

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Re: DDR Swap - Yes or No? Unconditional?

2006-05-10 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Ed,
Like you, I also haven't seen a full time operator in about 7 years.  As I
recall from the last job were I worked with the operations staff, you really
can't automate the DDR SWAP messages because the tape currently on the bad
device will need to be mounted on the new device in order to be processed.
Like you, I would most likely reply no, let the job abend, then restart the
backup.  If it commonly occurs on the same device, it may be time for some
PM.
Wayne Driscoll
Product Developer
JME Software LLC
NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own.
  

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Subject: DDR Swap - Yes or No? Unconditional?

We run tape backups from TSM and HSM every day. Once in a while, some sort
of I/O error occurs. This morning it was:

*IEC501A M 1502,PRIVAT,SL,NOCOMP,TIVSM,TIVSM,TIVSM.BFS
 IAT5918 MVS60JES3V1R 1502, , , , ,PRIVAT
 IEC705I TAPE ON 1502,A00118,SL,NOCOMP,TIVSM,TIVSM,TIVSM.BFS,MEDIA3
 IAT5918 MVS60JES3V1R 1502, , , , ,A00118
 IEC271I MESSAGE DISPLAY 'A00118' ON 1502 ISSUED BY JOB TIVSM  IOS000I
1502,13,IOE,01,0600,,**,A00118,TIVSM 856
  0A4414D050405050 0001FF00 0303023539335490 4B042300B18B1315
  WRITE ERROR DETECTED
*IGF500I  SWAP 1502 TO 1500 - I/O ERROR
*0934 IGF500D  REPLY 'YES', DEVICE, OR 'NO'

Unlike most of you reading this, we don't have professional operators. 
Rather, we have employees doing other jobs that inspect the console from
time-to-time and try to resolve any issues that might arise. Every time a
DDR SWAP is requested like this, they unilaterally reply NO -- which fails
the in-progress operation without giving the system a chance to recover.
Clearly, there is some fear, uncertainty, and doubt about what a DDR SWAP is
and what it might do if allowed to continue. 
(Consequently, I've never actually seen one complete! I would probably
specify YES and see what happens. But that's just me...)

Question: Is the response to IGF500D something I can/should automate? Is it
safe to unconditionally respond YES? Is there any reason I shouldn't?

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SIOELMOD LIBRARY

2006-05-10 Thread Howard Rifkind
Can anyone tell me what this library is, I think it's some product library but 
can seem to locate it on my system.
   
  SIOELMOD LIBRARY
   
  Thanks.


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Re: Like to generate a software inventory for shopz

2006-05-10 Thread McKown, John
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 In a recent note, McKown, John said:
 
  Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 13:46:37 -0500
  
  //SMPXTOUT DD PATH='/home1000/TSH009/consinv.bin',
  //PATHOPTS=(OWRONLY,OCREAT,OTRUNC),
  //FILEDATA=BINARY,PATHMODE=(SIRWXU,SIRWXG,SIRWXO)
  ^  ^ ^^
 Why is this specified as executable?
 
 For that matter, why is it world-writeable?
 
 Is this just a matter of expedience: the least protection
 gives you the fewest JCL errors?  Of course, I suppose that
 if the parent directory isn't world-searchable, there's some
 protection.  I don't believe UNIX security is as weak as
 reputed hereabouts; it's often just bad habits of UNIX
 programmers.  (umask has no effect in JCL, has it?)
 
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Re: SIOELMOD LIBRARY

2006-05-10 Thread Dean Montevago
It's was for the OSA, I think it went away. Don't recall what z/OS release.

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Can anyone tell me what this library is, I think it's some product library but 
can seem to locate it on my system.
   
  SIOELMOD LIBRARY
   
  Thanks.


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Re: Quantifying SME Apply Check Hold Reasons.

2006-05-10 Thread Chris Mason
Howard,

I could imagine some expensive management consultant has suggested getting a
tighter hold on the activity of the system administrators. Or he's been
reading a book. Either way it cost money so it must be right. Thus
everything has to be done by numbers.

I'll be interested to read the proper responses you get. From what little I
know of the sorts of reasons that a HOLD appears, it could be for quite a
variety of reasons.

Thus I imagine the honest answer is to pose a question in reverse How long
is a piece of string? Of course, you could show willing and say I'll tell
you in 3 months when I've had a chance to time what I hope will be a
representative sample.

The trouble with advice obtained from a free source such as this list is
that it has no value. g

I feel a Dilbert coming on.

Chris Mason

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 My mangement is asking me that after doing an apply check on various
FMID's that I some how quantify how much work there will be to researching
what is needed to resolve these holds.

   I have no idea how to measure this.  Number of holds, by error hold
reason grouped together...what?

   Any suggestions will be appreicated.

   Thanks.

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Re: SIOELMOD LIBRARY

2006-05-10 Thread Edward Jaffe

Dean Montevago wrote:

It's was for the OSA, I think it went away. Don't recall what z/OS release.
  


Went away? I still have IOE.SIOELMOD on my production z/OS 1.7 systems!

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Re: SIOELMOD LIBRARY

2006-05-10 Thread DeFabritus, Peter [NCSUS Non-JJ]
On Wed, 10 May 2006 12:09:11 -0700, Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Can anyone tell me what this library is, I think it's some product library 
but can seem to locate it on my system.

  SIOELMOD LIBRARY

  Thanks.


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SIOELMOD is for DFS (Distributed File Service), SMB, and zFS.  It is 
definitely a current system library.

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Re: SIOELMOD LIBRARY

2006-05-10 Thread McKown, John
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 Can anyone tell me what this library is, I think it's some 
 product library but can seem to locate it on my system.

   SIOELMOD LIBRARY

   Thanks.

IOE.SIOELMOD is on my z/OS 1.6 system. It appears to be a part of
SMB/DFS (The Samba or Windows file server code) for z/OS.

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Re: SIOELMOD LIBRARY

2006-05-10 Thread Dean Montevago
Yup, me too !! How bout DCE/MVS DFS.

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Dean Montevago wrote:
 It's was for the OSA, I think it went away. Don't recall what z/OS 
 release.
   

Went away? I still have IOE.SIOELMOD on my production z/OS 1.7 systems!

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Re: HMC : Dynamic I/O

2006-05-10 Thread Ted MacNEIL
So I'm looking for the minimal amount needed.  We're running a
z890.

Look at the SAPR Guide for z/890.

I have only looked at the ones for the z/900  z/990.
They both have an HSA planning table.
I assume the z/890 has one, as well.

IIRC, SAPR - System Assurance Planning Reference.


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Re: DDR Swap - Yes or No? Unconditional?

2006-05-10 Thread Edward Jaffe

Wayne Driscoll wrote:

Ed,
Like you, I also haven't seen a full time operator in about 7 years.  As I
recall from the last job were I worked with the operations staff, you really
can't automate the DDR SWAP messages because the tape currently on the bad
device will need to be mounted on the new device in order to be processed.
Like you, I would most likely reply no, let the job abend, then restart the
backup.  If it commonly occurs on the same device, it may be time for some
PM.
  


So you recommend I automate the reply to NO?

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Re: SIOELMOD LIBRARY

2006-05-10 Thread Jon Brock
IOE files are for DFS or some such.  The OSA software was in IOA files.  

As Maxwell Smart would say, Missed it by *that* much.

Jon

 

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Dean Montevago wrote:
 It's was for the OSA, I think it went away. Don't recall what z/OS release.
   

Went away? I still have IOE.SIOELMOD on my production z/OS 1.7 systems!
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Re: DDR Swap - Yes or No? Unconditional?

2006-05-10 Thread Ted MacNEIL
As I recall from the last job were I worked with the operations staff, you 
really can't automate the DDR SWAP messages because the tape currently on the 
bad device will need to be mounted on the new device in order to be 
processed.

Repeat after me:
Automated Tape Systems!

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Re: SIOELMOD LIBRARY

2006-05-10 Thread Edward Jaffe

Jon Brock wrote:

IOE files are for DFS or some such.  The OSA software was in IOA files.
  


Was??! I still have IOA.SIOALMOD on my production z/OS 1.7 systems!

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Re: Quantifying SME Apply Check Hold Reasons.

2006-05-10 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
Howard,
 
I just received RSU0603 fir z/OS 1.6 into my Global Zone and got the +/- 
following: 
No HOLD(ERROR)
Loads of HOLD(DOC) these I normally ignore, I just download the latest 
manuals(PDF) from the IBM site.
About 15 HOLD(ACTION) there is no other way than to read thru these and 
esitmate the time it wil take to action them all. I found that I had to action 
only about 50% of them because most of the others were applicable only if you 
move certain modules out of their original positions into more tuned libraries 
designed to save LPA space... etc. and I am not there yet... So the reading 
depends on the number of chars / second and the rest of the estimation... on 
how much customization you have done in the system... This is only my humble 
opinion, would be interested too, to see what the grey-beards has to say, I am 
rather bald.
 
Regards
 
Herbie

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Re: Quantifying SME Apply Check Hold Reasons.

2006-05-10 Thread Jousma, David
Howard,

Not exactly sure how you are selecting which maintenance to apply, but
what I would do is take IBM's recommendation of applying maintenance at
a level of the current PUT level minus 3 generations, and RSU minus one
generation as a good general rule of thumb.  You do this by selecting
maintenance by SOURCEID, not by function.  Then create a list that might
include PUT, RSU, HIPER, etc.  You get this list by going into
option 3.3 in SMPE, and selecting the GLOBAL zone to see what sourceID's
are in there.  Then do your apply check, bypass ALL hold SYSTEM
reasons(for now), and get your list of those PTF's that will not apply
due to a hold ERROR.  Then do another apply check EXCLUDING all those
ptf's.  What you get from that is the candidate list of maintenance that
will apply to your system.  Depending on how far back you are, this
could be a few ptf's, or could be hundreds or thousands.  Your next step
is to go through the remaining HOLD SYSTEM reasons(and it is more than
just the hold ACTION's now days), to see what other stuff you might want
to choose to exclude due to external requirements(hardware microcode
levels, sysplex requirements, etc).

If a PTF is in error I generally won't even mess with it on a normal
maintenance upgrade.  The only time I even look into those is if I'm
installing a new FMID, and I need to bypass it just to get the function
installed, or at the direction of IBM support to fix another problem.

If you are asking about how to quantify research on holds other than
ERROR's, well, that just comes with experience.  If you get a hold
ACTION that says you have to have PTFx installed before this one, go
check it out.  If it says you need to rebind some DB2 plan afterwards,
then do that.  Usually hold ACTIONS are pretty straight forward.  Then
there are other holds like multisys, enh, ipl, etc that depending on
your shop's configuration may be applicable or not.  For instance, if
you only install new maintenance via an IPL to a new cloned sysres, then
you can pretty much ignore the HOLD(IPL) items.  If you have only a
single system, then you can pretty much ignore the multisys hold reason.


I hope this helps.  I get the feeling like you've been given an
assignment that is new to you, and have no one around to be a mentor.
That can be frustrating, but over time you will figure it out.  Just
hang in there.

Dave 



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My mangement is asking me that after doing an apply check on various
FMID's that I some how quantify how much work there will be to
researching what is needed to resolve these holds.
   
  I have no idea how to measure this.  Number of holds, by error hold
reason grouped together...what?
   
  Any suggestions will be appreicated.
   
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Re: DDR Swap - Yes or No? Unconditional?

2006-05-10 Thread Richard Peurifoy
Edward Jaffe wrote:

 We run tape backups from TSM and HSM every day. Once in a while, some
 sort of I/O error occurs. This morning it was:

 *IEC501A M 1502,PRIVAT,SL,NOCOMP,TIVSM,TIVSM,TIVSM.BFS
  IAT5918 MVS60JES3V1R 1502, , , , ,PRIVAT
  IEC705I TAPE ON 1502,A00118,SL,NOCOMP,TIVSM,TIVSM,TIVSM.BFS,MEDIA3
  IAT5918 MVS60JES3V1R 1502, , , , ,A00118
  IEC271I MESSAGE DISPLAY 'A00118' ON 1502 ISSUED BY JOB TIVSM
  IOS000I 1502,13,IOE,01,0600,,**,A00118,TIVSM 856
   0A4414D050405050 0001FF00 0303023539335490 4B042300B18B1315
   WRITE ERROR DETECTED
 *IGF500I  SWAP 1502 TO 1500 - I/O ERROR
 *0934 IGF500D  REPLY 'YES', DEVICE, OR 'NO'

 Unlike most of you reading this, we don't have professional operators.
 Rather, we have employees doing other jobs that inspect the console from
 time-to-time and try to resolve any issues that might arise. Every time
 a DDR SWAP is requested like this, they unilaterally reply NO -- which
 fails the in-progress operation without giving the system a chance to
 recover. Clearly, there is some fear, uncertainty, and doubt about what
 a DDR SWAP is and what it might do if allowed to continue.
 (Consequently, I've never actually seen one complete! I would probably
 specify YES and see what happens. But that's just me...)

 Question: Is the response to IGF500D something I can/should automate? Is
 it safe to unconditionally respond YES? Is there any reason I shouldn't?


If you are always going to reply NO, you can issue a SWAP OFF command
(the abreviation for SWAP is G so G OFF will work). This will disable swap,
and you will not get any replys.

If you don't have operators, you might not want to automatically reply YES,
unless you have a robot mounting tapes. The tape will have to be moved from
the current drive to the new drive. At least at one time this would hang
allocation
untill the swap was complete.

Also, if you automate it you need to check for repeated swaps of the same tape.

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Re: DDR Swap - Yes or No? Unconditional?

2006-05-10 Thread David Andrews
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 11:47 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:
 Question: Is the response to IGF500D something I can/should automate? Is 
 it safe to unconditionally respond YES? Is there any reason I shouldn't?

You can probably automate a yes if you limit it to a single swap.

Once upon a time... a LONG time ago... DDR used to play merry hell with
allocation.  While a swap was in progress allocation would hang; I
presume that this has been fixed sometime in the last quarter century,
but I haven't paid much attention.

Swap also monopolized the tape controller during repositioning, so if
you had other tape drives hung off the same controller they would stop
during DDR.  Maybe this has been fixed too -- we've had
controller-per-drive transports for quite a few years now.

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Re: DDR Swap - Yes or No? Unconditional?

2006-05-10 Thread Ulrich Krueger
This Write - I/O - error most likely resulted from a dirty red/write head on the
tape drive. On my system with rather finicky 3590 - drives, usually a SWAP will
be successful and that will allow the process to finish. Our operators usually
handle the swap correctly.
IMHO, you should instruct your operators to reply YES and make a note of the
tape VOLSER. If the same VOLSER comes up for another swap on the new drive,
reply NO, as this very well might be a physically bad tape cartridge.
If you don't have operators, or if they don't respond in a timely fashion, you
might want to consider turning off the SWAP function (put a SWAP OFF command
into PARMLIB member IEACMDxx or COMMNDxx or enter it as a console command).
That'll blow the tape right out of the drive, without operator intervention and
without loss of time.

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 We run tape backups from TSM and HSM every day. Once in a while, some
 sort of I/O error occurs. This morning it was:

 *IEC501A M 1502,PRIVAT,SL,NOCOMP,TIVSM,TIVSM,TIVSM.BFS
  IAT5918 MVS60JES3V1R 1502, , , , ,PRIVAT
  IEC705I TAPE ON 1502,A00118,SL,NOCOMP,TIVSM,TIVSM,TIVSM.BFS,MEDIA3
  IAT5918 MVS60JES3V1R 1502, , , , ,A00118
  IEC271I MESSAGE DISPLAY 'A00118' ON 1502 ISSUED BY JOB TIVSM
  IOS000I 1502,13,IOE,01,0600,,**,A00118,TIVSM 856
   0A4414D050405050 0001FF00 0303023539335490 4B042300B18B1315
   WRITE ERROR DETECTED
 *IGF500I  SWAP 1502 TO 1500 - I/O ERROR
 *0934 IGF500D  REPLY 'YES', DEVICE, OR 'NO'

 Unlike most of you reading this, we don't have professional operators.
 Rather, we have employees doing other jobs that inspect the console from
 time-to-time and try to resolve any issues that might arise. Every time
 a DDR SWAP is requested like this, they unilaterally reply NO -- which
 fails the in-progress operation without giving the system a chance to
 recover. Clearly, there is some fear, uncertainty, and doubt about what
 a DDR SWAP is and what it might do if allowed to continue.
 (Consequently, I've never actually seen one complete! I would probably
 specify YES and see what happens. But that's just me...)

 Question: Is the response to IGF500D something I can/should automate? Is
 it safe to unconditionally respond YES? Is there any reason I shouldn't?

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Re: rexx or other macro processor on z/os?

2006-05-10 Thread Ed Gould

On May 9, 2006, at 10:26 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:


In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/08/2006
   at 10:06 PM, Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:


Good memory. But I believe the fullgen is still needed to this day
(to prime the CSI) at least.


No; in fact, there would be no way to do a fullgen before you had
primed the CSI. Where would the sysgen macros come from?


SNIp---

The chicken or the egg conundrum..  I guess I would stay with the  
sysgen though. I vaguely remember creating the CSI with several  
inputs, so I think we are both correct.


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Re: Quantifying SME Apply Check Hold Reasons.

2006-05-10 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 10 May 2006 11:22:50 -0700, Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

My mangement is asking me that after doing an apply check on various 
FMID's that I some how quantify how much work there will be to researching 
what is needed to resolve these holds.
...

Oh, man!  There's no hope of your being able to give a true answer.

Unless you have received all the maint you could possibly need, you don't
have any idea how many HOLDs you have to resolve.  If there are AO holds
and you have an automation system, you may be embarking on a journey 
spanning multiple departments, end-user communities, etc.  Same for ACTION;
it may not impact you at all, or it could be days of work.

Pick a number out of the air.  Say it will take one fifteenth the time to
install and customize a product.  (Don't specify a product - just a 
generic product.)

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: SIOELMOD LIBRARY

2006-05-10 Thread Jon Brock
Was, as in, I missed the start of the thread, so I don't know what level the 
OP is on, but it is on my 1.4 system, but may not still exist on later versions 
-- I can't say.

Jon


snip
Was??! I still have IOA.SIOALMOD on my production z/OS 1.7 systems!
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Re: HMC : Dynamic I/O

2006-05-10 Thread Hal Merritt
Easy enough. Just flip the switch, turn off 'load on activate', and POR.
Then activate your LPARS one at a time in priority order. When you run
out of main, then that activation will fail. Reduce the allocation for
that LPAR to fit. 

The risk is that you will run out of main before you run out of LPAR's
and you will have to deactivate and reduce several LPARs. If you do not
'load on activate', then you can back out before you IPL. Dynamic
changes are oh so handy but oh so expensive. Well worth it IMHO but
YMMV.



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We want to turn on the Allow dynamic changes to the channel subsystem
input/output (I/O) definition switch on the HMC.  But this will require
storage, and I can not find reference as to how much.  We currently have
all
available storage tied up among our LPARs.  So I must steal some storage
from an LPAR, and I'd like to keep it to the minimum.  Any info will be
greatly appreciated.

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Re: IFAPRD00 reporting from Batch

2006-05-10 Thread Paula Zankel
Thanks, Rob, but I wasn't planning on purchasing an entire software package 
just to avoid doing some REXX coding.  I was hoping for something already 
available.  You couldn't imagine what it would take for me to buy it. That 
would involve at least 50 different people and an act of Congress!

Paula Zankel

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Re: IFAPRD00 reporting from Batch

2006-05-10 Thread Alan C. Field
Paula,

Not sure exactly what you want but SHOWZOS from www.cbttape.org displays 
Registered and
unregistered products. Rel 712 is current. Roland just distributed 713 to 
the Beta testers. 

Rob was possibly alluding to the free version of MXI - I think it still 
exists. 




Thanks, Rob, but I wasn't planning on purchasing an entire software 
package 
just to avoid doing some REXX coding.  I was hoping for something already 
available.  You couldn't imagine what it would take for me to buy it. That 

would involve at least 50 different people and an act of Congress!

Paula Zankel

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Re: Like to generate a software inventory for shopz

2006-05-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, McKown, John said:

 Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 14:12:51 -0500
 
 Most likely I just blindly copied the PATHOPTS from somewhere (likely
 IBM) without really looking at it too closely.
 
Indeed.  Right there in:

21.11.2.1 z/OS V1R5.0 UNIX System Services User's Guide

21.11.2.1 Example: Using JCL to copy from a PDS to the file system

 //SYSLMOD  DD  PATH='/u/turbo/llib',
 // PATHOPTS=(OWRONLY,OCREAT,OTRUNC),
 // PATHMODE=(SIRWXO,SIRWXG,SIRWXU)
 
To be fair, execute is appropriate for SYSLMOD.  OTOH, OCREAT
is misleading because SYSLMOD should be a directory.  Either
1) the directory pre-exists, in which case OCREAT is superfluous,
or 2) the directory does not exist, in which case the DD statement
will create a basefile, not a directory.  OTRUNC is totally
superfluous.

But for your basefile example, OCREAT and OTRUNC seem proper
--x--x--x is inappropriate.

Needed:  A JCL construct to create a directory.  E.g. DSNTYPE=DIR.
(They already support DSNTYPE=FIFO (but why?), so why not DIR?
Likewise, why not DSNTYPE=SYMLINK?)

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Re: IFAPRD00 reporting from Batch

2006-05-10 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
Paula, 

the MXI display looks like this. Version 4.3 is free. It's OCO but has a nice 
REXX 
interface. 

MXI - SOFT - ALS0 - HOME - CPU   8 UIC 2540 PAG0 -- Row 1 of 42
Command ===  Scroll === PAGE 
   
Software Levels
z/OS SP7.0.7   (HBB7720)JES2 z/OS 1.7  (HJE7720)   
VTAM 6.1.7  RACF 7.72.0
TSO  3.06.0 ISPF 5.7   
SMS  1.7.0  ICKDSF   1.17  
   
Product  Feature  vv rr mm ID   Status   Reg Owner 
z/OS z/OS 01 07 00 5694-A01 Enabled  Reg IBM CORP  
z/OS DFSMSRMM *  *  *  5694-A01 Enabled  Reg IBM CORP  
z/OS JES2 01 07 00 5694-A01 Unknown  Reg IBM CORP  
z/OS RACF *  *  *  5694-A01 Unknown  Reg IBM CORP  
z/OS RMF  *  *  *  5694-A01 Enabled  Reg IBM CORP  
z/OS Security Server  *  *  *  5694-A01 Enabled  Reg IBM CORP  
z/OS SDSF *  *  *  5694-A01 Enabled  Reg IBM CORP  
z/OS TCP/IP BASE  *  *  *  5694-A01 Enabled  Reg IBM CORP  
z/OS z/OS *  *  *  5694-A01 Enabled  No  IBM CORP  
z/OS BDTFTF   *  *  *  5694-A01 Disabled No  IBM CORP  
z/OS BDTNJE   *  *  *  5694-A01 Disabled No  IBM CORP  
z/OS BOOKMGR BUILD*  *  *  5694-A01 Disabled No  IBM CORP  
z/OS C/C++*  *  *  5694-A01 Enabled  No  IBM CORP  
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z/OS DFSMSRMM *  *  *  5694-A01 Enabled  No  IBM CORP  
z/OS DFSORT   *  *  *  5694-A01 Enabled  No  IBM CORP  
z/OS GDDM-PGF *  *  *  5694-A01 Enabled  No  IBM CORP  
z/OS GDDM-REXX*  *  *  5694-A01 Disabled No  IBM CORP  
z/OS HCM  *  *  *  5694-A01 Enabled  No  IBM CORP  
z/OS INFOPRINT SERVER *  *  *  5694-A01 Disabled No  IBM CORP  
z/OS JES3 *  *  *  5694-A01 Disabled No  IBM CORP  
z/OS RMF  *  *  *  5694-A01 Enabled  No  IBM CORP  
z/OS SDSF *  *  *  5694-A01 Enabled  No  IBM CORP  
z/OS SECURITY SERVER  *  *  *  5694-A01 Enabled  No  IBM CORP  
z/OS TCP/IP BASE  *  *  *  5694-A01 Enabled  No  IBM CORP  
z/OS TCP/IP CICS  *  *  *  5694-A01 Enabled  No  IBM CORP  
z/OS TCP/IP IMS   *  *  *  5694-A01 Enabled  No  IBM CORP  
z/OS TOOLKIT DEBUGGER *  *  *  5694-A01 Enabled  No  IBM CORP  
DCF  DCF  *  *  *  5748-XX9 Enabled  No  IBM CORP  

SHOWzOS V712 is free and source code (small assembler:-) available (#file492 
www.cbttape.org)

Registered Products 

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Instance

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Revolver Issue

2006-05-10 Thread Laine, Rogers
I'm trying to setup a default revolver using Local Hosts file on MVS.
When using FTP under TSO it's able to find the Server name, but if I try
a batch job it does not locate the same Server name.
What do I need to code in the JCL to locate the correct Server using
Local Hosts?
 
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Re: Revolver Issue

2006-05-10 Thread Rugen, Len
For RESOLVER, you need a DD for TCPDATA unless there is a special named
dataset that is searched by default, we have an INCLUDE member

XXTCPDATA   INCLUDE MEMBER=SYSTCPD
XXSYSTCPD  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=TCPIP.PROD.TCPDATA


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Re: IFAPRD00 reporting from Batch

2006-05-10 Thread Rob Scott
Roland,

That smiley you put after *ahem* 'small assembler' should be in BOLD.

When I was a sysprog I used the ShowMVS assemble as my HLASM IVP - I
figured if HLASM can assemble ShowMVS then everything else should be a
breeze.  


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Re: DDR Swap - Yes or No? Unconditional?

2006-05-10 Thread Edward Jaffe

Ulrich Krueger wrote:
[snip]

If you don't have operators, or if they don't respond in a timely fashion, you
might want to consider turning off the SWAP function (put a SWAP OFF command
into PARMLIB member IEACMDxx or COMMNDxx or enter it as a console command).
That'll blow the tape right out of the drive, without operator intervention and
without loss of time.
  


Thanks for all of the responses -- both on- and off-list!

We don't have real operators, so I put 'SWAP OFF' into COMMNDxx. If we 
ever get an automated tape library, I'll remove that command and 
automate a YES response to the IGF500D.


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Re: IFAPRD00 reporting from Batch

2006-05-10 Thread Rob Scott
Paula,

I was refering to the free version of MXI - I try to avoid responding to
posts with my commercial product can do that posts/boasts as it could
lead to a me too war with competing ISVs and that is tiresome for the
general reader.

The current freeware MXI Version 4.3 is still supported although it has
been frozen and there will be no more enhancements made.

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Re: HMC : Dynamic I/O

2006-05-10 Thread Neubert, Kevin (DIS)
It really depends on how big the IOCDS is, how much is being reserved
for dynamic expansion, etc.  The Processor Resource/Systems Manager
Planning Guide and Support Element Operations Guide have good
information on this.  As mentioned previously the support element has an
HSA Estimation Tool.  As an absolute guess, baring FICON, as a place to
start I would figure about 512MB.

Regards,

Kevin

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Ted,

We have NO storage available for this.  I will have to steal some from a
test LPAR.  So I'm looking for the minimal amount needed.  We're running
a
z890.  

Ed

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Re: SIOELMOD LIBRARY

2006-05-10 Thread Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)
If your system was installed via ServerPac, then you should have
received a customized manual titled Installing Your Order.  It's even
in BookManager format.  It's a great repository of information about
data set names, FMIDs, PSP upgrade names and subsets, and all sorts of
other goodies to help understand what's in your system.  Just do a
search on SIOELMOD and it should reveal what it is used for.

Don Imbriale

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Can anyone tell me what this library is, I think it's some product
library but can
seem to locate it on my system.

  SIOELMOD LIBRARY



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Re: DDR Swap - Yes or No? Unconditional?

2006-05-10 Thread Hal Merritt
The root issue is bad tapes in your inventory. Get rid of them. Then the
prompts go away, costs go down, things go faster, management is happier,
your 'operators' are happier, life is better.

My $0.02 

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We run tape backups from TSM and HSM every day. Once in a while, some 
sort of I/O error occurs. This morning it was:
 

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Re: DDR Swap - Yes or No? Unconditional?

2006-05-10 Thread Gibney, Dave
   You could try one reply of DEVICE using the same device number as the
error occurred on, sometimes that will work, but you might still need to
remount the tape.
   We still have at least one operator (they may more attention to the
network and open boxes than z/OS), but DDR SWAP does work and sometimes
the i/o error causing dirt isn't there next time.


Dave Gibney  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Information Technology
Washington State University
Pullman, WA 99164-1222


 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 2:35 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: DDR Swap - Yes or No? Unconditional?
 
 Ulrich Krueger wrote:
 [snip]
  If you don't have operators, or if they don't respond in a timely
 fashion, you
  might want to consider turning off the SWAP function (put a SWAP
OFF
 command
  into PARMLIB member IEACMDxx or COMMNDxx or enter it as a console
 command).
  That'll blow the tape right out of the drive, without operator
 intervention and
  without loss of time.
 
 
 Thanks for all of the responses -- both on- and off-list!
 
 We don't have real operators, so I put 'SWAP OFF' into COMMNDxx. If we
 ever get an automated tape library, I'll remove that command and
 automate a YES response to the IGF500D.
 
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 Phoenix Software International, Inc
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Re: DDR Swap - Yes or No? Unconditional?

2006-05-10 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
usually the root issue is the bad tapes.  That is why I prefer to have
the DDR swap take place.  If the system chokes on the tape the second
time around, the tape gets pitched.  

I see your $.02 and raise you another $.01.  :-)

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The root issue is bad tapes in your inventory. Get rid of them. Then the
prompts go away, costs go down, things go faster, management is happier,
your 'operators' are happier, life is better.

My $0.02 

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We run tape backups from TSM and HSM every day. Once in a while, some 
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SMPLTS

2006-05-10 Thread Howard Rifkind
Is it possible to concatenate another library to the SMPLTS via the DDDF's from 
the SMPE panels?
   
  I looked but couldn't find a away todo it.
   
  Any help will be greatly appreciated.
   
  Thanks.


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Re: SMPLTS

2006-05-10 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Why do you want to do this?  The SMPLTS is an SMP/E controlled dataset.
What problem are you trying to solve?

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Is it possible to concatenate another library to the SMPLTS via the
DDDF's from the SMPE panels?
   
  I looked but couldn't find a away todo it.
   
  Any help will be greatly appreciated.
   
  Thanks.


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Re: SMPLTS

2006-05-10 Thread Howard Rifkind
There are errors during linkedit apply processing where the member being 
searched for in not in the first SMPLTS.

Pommier, Rex R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Why do you want to do this? The 
SMPLTS is an SMP/E controlled dataset.
What problem are you trying to solve?

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Is it possible to concatenate another library to the SMPLTS via the
DDDF's from the SMPE panels?

I looked but couldn't find a away todo it.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.


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Re: SMPLTS

2006-05-10 Thread Robert Justice
inquiring minds want to know, how many smplts datasets do you have in your 
z/OS zone?

answer should be one I hope.
.


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There are errors during linkedit apply processing where the member being 
searched for in not in the first SMPLTS.


Pommier, Rex R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Why do you want to 
do this? The SMPLTS is an SMP/E controlled dataset.

What problem are you trying to solve?

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Is it possible to concatenate another library to the SMPLTS via the
DDDF's from the SMPE panels?

I looked but couldn't find a away todo it.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.


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Re: DDR Swap - Yes or No? Unconditional?

2006-05-10 Thread Edward Jaffe

Hal Merritt wrote:

The root issue is bad tapes in your inventory. Get rid of them. Then the
prompts go away, costs go down, things go faster, management is happier,
your 'operators' are happier, life is better.
  


In this case, all that was needed was an insertion of the cleaning 
cartridge ...


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Re: DDR Swap - Yes or No? Unconditional?

2006-05-10 Thread Jon Brock
Ah, but into which orifice you insert it makes all the difference.



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CA-OPS/MVS Message Routing

2006-05-10 Thread Mark Steely
We are z/OS V1R4. I am issuing WTO's to the operator with a TOD RULE
action. The WTO's come out on the Master Console HI-Lighted, but that do
not show up on the alternate console's. This is an example:
 
address WTO 
   MSGID(CA-048) , 
  TEXT('***Message to operator ') HILITE 
 
I have added routecodes 1-12 and it still does not show. I have added
descriptor and it displays on the alternate, but it's a red message. If
possible I would like it to come up white or hi-lighted green
non-deleteable.
 
Any help would be appreciated.
 
Thank You


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Re: SMPLTS

2006-05-10 Thread Mark Steely
The SMPLTS may be too big to fit on one volume and he may be running out
of space. (B37,D37, etc).  

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inquiring minds want to know, how many smplts datasets do you have in
your z/OS zone?
answer should be one I hope.
.


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 There are errors during linkedit apply processing where the member
being 
 searched for in not in the first SMPLTS.

 Pommier, Rex R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Why do you want
to 
 do this? The SMPLTS is an SMP/E controlled dataset.
 What problem are you trying to solve?

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 Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 5:20 PM
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 Is it possible to concatenate another library to the SMPLTS via the
 DDDF's from the SMPE panels?

 I looked but couldn't find a away todo it.

 Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks.



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Re: SMPLTS

2006-05-10 Thread Robert Justice
pdse, mod 9, mod 27, etc. 
that particular issue resolved. 




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The SMPLTS may be too big to fit on one volume and he may be running out
of space. (B37,D37, etc).  



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Re: VSAM Extent Consolidation

2006-05-10 Thread Art Celestini
I think it's actually non-VSAM, and it's because a lot of applications 
using EXCP or lower would break.

Such programs normally issue an EOV to cause allocation of a new extent 
for an output data set.  I suspect most apps would then expect to find 
a new extent in the extent list (not more space allocated within the last
existing extent).  I think what IBM could do is to add an option to 
either OPEN or EOV so the application could say I can handle Extent 
Consolidation.  Then it could be done without the risk of breaking a
program that currently works.


At 12:10 PM 5/10/2006, Ben Alford wrote:
  
[...]

Unfortunately, the manual says the Extent Consolidation isn't supported
for non-SMS datasets.
Bummer.

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Re: SMPLTS

2006-05-10 Thread Brian Peterson
I think you're going the wrong direction here.  SMPLTS is a single data 
set, not a concatenation of data sets like the SYSLIB concatenation used 
during assembly for macros.

If you have a particular error, it cannot be solved by concatenating data 
sets to SMPLTS.

You might want to post what the actual problem is - maybe someone else has 
seen that problem before.

Brian

On Wed, 10 May 2006 15:40:12 -0700, Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

There are errors during linkedit apply processing where the member being 
searched for in not in the first SMPLTS.

Pommier, Rex R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Why do you want to 
do this? The SMPLTS is an SMP/E controlled dataset.
What problem are you trying to solve?

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DDDF's from the SMPE panels?

I looked but couldn't find a away todo it.

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Re: SMPLTS

2006-05-10 Thread Shane Ginnane
Agreed.
If you are having problems with the LTS, sounds like you haven't
upgraded.
The changes 3.2 introduced saw LTS usage almost disappear on my systems.
See the SMP reference.

Shane ...

 Why do you want to do this?  The SMPLTS is an SMP/E controlled dataset.
 What problem are you trying to solve?

 -Original Message-

 Is it possible to concatenate another library to the SMPLTS via the
 DDDF's from the SMPE panels?

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Re: IFAPRD00 reporting from Batch

2006-05-10 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
True and I'm still fighting with limits. Perhaps because of SHOWzOS IBM 
open APAR PK09700. I don't know as I trust HLASM 1.5 and run it with REGION=0M

I was more thinking about the code which invokes IFAEDLIS. Just about 40-50 
lines.

Roland


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Roland,

That smiley you put after *ahem* 'small assembler' should be in BOLD.

When I was a sysprog I used the ShowMVS assemble as my HLASM 
IVP - I figured if HLASM can assemble ShowMVS then everything 
else should be a breeze.  

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Re: control block overview

2006-05-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/10/2006
   at 01:46 PM, Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I seem to remember that, if you couldn't find your control block
macro in SYS1.MACLIB, you should try SYS1.MODGEN.

Yes, but there were  a lot in optional source material. Some of the
latter is now in MACLIB or MODGEN, and some has gone OCO.
 
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Re: control block overview

2006-05-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
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   at 02:30 PM, Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34)
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I'm sure *he* knows but for unknown reasons he didn't want  to tell
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The reason is simple; I didn't want to mislead the OP. MACLIB and
MODGEN are only two of many libraries in which mapping macros are
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Re: Resolver Issue (was Revolver Issue)

2006-05-10 Thread Chris Mason
Rogers,

In principle, you get about 2,200 folk on this list as opposed to only about
850 on the IBMTCP-L list, a potential increase of 1,350 (assuming the
IBMTCP-L list is completely included in this list), but, that said, you'll
probably pick up the same old names responding to this issue that you got on
IBMTCP-L - maybe a few more who are too busy to bother with more than the
list which mainly covers their interests.

In case you didn't see the response I sent you yesterday - well, it's
yesterday here but I guess it's today for you even if it is the evening -
I'll post it here too - with some additions.

Oh - and I see somebody's already cracked a Smith and Wesson joke so I
won't bother. g

copies

Newsgroups:   bit.listserv.ibmtcp-l
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 15:49:03 +0200
...
From: Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:  Re: Using TCPIP Hosts file

Rogers,

Sorry for the late response. I'm trying to catch up.

How do we know that the batch FTP job is using a TCPIP.DATA file which
allows the HOSTS.ADDRINFO and HOSTS.SITEINFO you set up to be found and
accessed?

What name were you using in place of the hlq Brian mentioned? By default
it should be TCPIP. On the other hand, your HOSTS.LOCAL, HOSTS.ADDRINFO and
HOSTS.SITEINFO may be qualified by your TSO userid.

You need to make sure which of the files in the famous table in section
1.2.8.2, Resolver configuration files, in the CS IP Configuration Guide
will apply to your batch FTP job.

Chris Mason

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 Brian,

 From your below information I was able to run the MAKESITE command and
 it created the HOSTS.ADDRINFO  HOSTS.SITEINFO

 Also did the F RESOLVER,REFRESH and got the below messages...


 F RESOLVER,REFRESH
 EZZ9298I DEFAULTTCPIPDATA - None
 EZZ9298I GLOBALTCPIPDATA - None
 EZZ9298I DEFAULTIPNODES - None
 EZZ9298I GLOBALIPNODES - None
 EZZ9304I NOCOMMONSEARCH
 EZZ9293I REFRESH COMMAND PROCESSED

 But when I run the batch FTP job replacing the IP address with a HOST
 Name that I put in the HOSTS.LOCAL file it does not find this name.

 Do you know if I need to modify the TCPIP PROFILE?

 Rogers
 -Original Message-
 From: Brian D Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:21 PM
 ...
 Subject: Re: [IBMTCP-L] Using TCPIP Hosts file

 Rogers,

 The HOSTS file is one way to do it; the other is to point your IP stack
 at an outboard Domain Name Server.  (Well, you could also bring up a
 z/OS
 DNS, but that's not a quick and easy thing.)Anyhow, for the host
 file
 update to take effect:

 1)  EDIT  hlq.HOSTS.LOCAL  file, making changes as needed

 2)  TSO command  MAKESITE HLQ=hlq  (this creates / updates
 hlq.HOSTS.ADDRINFO and hlq.HOSTS.SITEINFO using the source code
 from step 1 as input)

 3)  CONSOLE command  F RESOLVER,REFRESH

 Regards,
 Brian P.

/copies

The possible ways to find the local host tables are as follows:

1.  X_SITE environment variable
2.  X_ADDR environment variable
3.  /etc/hosts
4.  userid.HOSTS.INFO
5.  jobname.HOSTS.INFO
6.  hlq.HOSTS.INFO
7.  GLOBALIPNODES
8.  RESOLVER_IPNODES environment
9.  userid.ETC.IPNODES
10. jobname.ETC.IPNODES
11. hlq.ETC.IPNODES
12. DEFAULTIPNODES
13. /etc/ipnodes

Why such a ridiculously complicated list? I hear you ask. Well, you're
right. It's history and the firm IBM commitment - well, almost firm - never
to allow anything that worked in the last release not work in this release.
And it's not that long a history either - something a little over 10 years.

First there was TCP/IP for VM which did everything by allocating,
typically - maybe exclusively - sequential data sets dynamically - because
that's the way CMS is. Perhaps I should say before the beginning was an idea
that an RFC which suggested that local name files should have the peculiar
format you've been using for the source should be used instead of the more
simple layout favoured by UNIX systems.Then TCP/IP for VM was ported to
TCP/IP for MVS. This sort-of accounts for the 4, 5 and 6 options, one of
which - and we've got to work out which one - you've been using .

Then the Unix System Services stuff got added to z/OS and its ancestors, the
resolver got to become a separate address space and the local host table
got to use the UNIX-like format. I expect if I tried really hard I could
come up with a justification for all the other options based on all these
enhancements. Unfortunately I haven't been following TCP/IP for MVS -
morphing into Communications Server IP - closely for most of the last 10
years so I can't say from where the inspiration for all of these accretions
arose. Perhaps somebody still reading feel sufficiently inspired so to do.

Checking the manual later, I discovered that another complicating influence
is whether the IP address is V4 or might also be V6.

As I said, we need 

ESCON Manager Replacement SA OS/390 V1R3 I/O-OPS function only?

2006-05-10 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi,

We are still running the old Escon Manager (ESCM) on z/OS R6.  It works
but it's cranky looping for 40 minutes at startup burning a CP and
throwing out a bunch of GETMAIN FAILED errors but it works.

14.14.14 STC12491 IHVD000I ESCM V.1__R.3__M.0__ START IN PROGRESS 
14.14.15 STC12491 IHVD900I GETMAIN FAILED 

We had been told the only recourse was to buy a full license for SA/390
but that is not inexpensive and we are already heavily invested and
happy with CA-OPSMVS.I found an APAR II11547 that suggests some
customers have been given an accommodation perhaps as an entitlement,
special bid, or something to get just the I/O Operations piece of
SA/390.

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/tivoli/products/system-automation-390/in
fo-05.html 

APAR Identifier .. II11547  Last Changed  99/08/16
  HELP ON HOW TO GET SA OS/390 V1R3 I/O-OPS FUNCTION
  ONLY INSTALLED 

Is it possible? Anyone gone down this road and care to share here or
off-list some clues we can feed to our IBM team to help them find the
right form to fill out?

Best Regards, 

Sam Knutson, GEICO 
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Re: Resolver Issue (was Revolver Issue)

2006-05-10 Thread Edward Jaffe

Chris Mason wrote:

In principle, you get about 2,200 folk on this list as opposed to only about ...
  


Actually, there are approximately 4,600 subscribers to IBM-MAIN. The 
world-wide audience is actually larger than that because there are 
people that lurk via bit.listserv.ibm-main.


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Re: Anyone Running zIIP Yet?

2006-05-10 Thread Timothy Sipples
I was jumping the gun only slightly. :-)  As results come in (probably 
starting later this month), it would be great to hear them.  Thanks!

- - - - -
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Consulting Enterprise Software Architect, z9/zSeries
IBM Japan, Ltd.
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