Re: Question about the listserv : Mail-syntax

2007-08-01 Thread Maarten Slegtenhorst
Edward,

The RFC 2646 ( aug 1999 ) is made obsolete by RFC 3676 ( feb 2004 )   ;)
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3676.txt 

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Arthur T. wrote:
 Of course, many E-mail programs would cut that off automatically if
 people would just use the defined standard sig separator:  A line of 
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In addition, all list participants should quote prior posts according to

RFC 2646 (http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2646.txt) Those who steadfastly 
refuse to do so infuse the list with improper attributions, improper 
nesting, and other strange formatting, all of which result in 
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Re: Usage of KB and KiB

2007-08-01 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hello Radoslaw,

Then we had better agree to disagree.

1. there was a convention.

2. MicroSoft (M$) wrote PC-DOS on contract to IBM.


On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:30:28 +0200, R.S. 
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Bruce Hewson wrote:
 Well Radoslaw,

 As I said the original convention for disk was 1000 bytes = 1KByte.

No. There was no such convention. Possibly there was no convention at
all, although IMHO the most popular convention was IT k=1024, while
non-IT k=1000.

 M$ did not comply with that convention when they decided to show disk
 usage in binary format 1024bytes=1KByte.

M$ used k=1024 for disks for many years. Legacy MS-DOS (or rather IBM
PC-DOS!) used 1024 for many years.

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Re: Web access to mainframe datasets

2007-08-01 Thread Nagesh

Hi Brian
Have you considered J2EE ? I admit I am not too good on the security 
part. But, here goes.


You can install Tomcat on USS and deploy an application that shows a 
list of files hyperlinked to a file in the deployment folder in Tomcat. 
This file would be the HTML version and ASCII encoded. For added effect, 
code a link to stylesheet in the HTML so that data appears in 
non-proportional font. This is a very simple way of doing what you need. 
I had a similar requirement and I did it just this way.


If you want a more comprehensive solution, then perhaps, you should 
consider a servlet that uses JZOS jar files to read any mainframe 
dataset and writes to browser.


Regards,
Nags.

Brian Westerman wrote:

Hi all,

I have decided that it would be kind of a cool idea to be able to access
some of our software (especially the Spool Offload facility) from a secure
internet connection, but I don't want to use CICS services or DB/2 because I
can't gaurentee that they will be available at all of the sites that use my
code.  I think that my approach has to be through WebSphere, or I would need
to write my own server address space that services TCP sockets, but I can't
find documentation on the best approach for doing this.  Maybe I'm just
looking in the wrong places.  Does anyone know of any documentation on how
writing this process would best be done?

Thanks for your help.

Brian

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Antwort: Web access to mainframe datasets

2007-08-01 Thread Albert Klimek
Appendix C in the HTTP Server Planning, Installing, and Using manual

Albert 

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Re: web IBMLINK down again - so what ?

2007-08-01 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hello Radoslaw,

And if IBM actually released the full IBM-LINK service to the rest of the world 
you also would become addicted to it.

Although I work in Singapore, through a set of circumstances, I have access 
to IBMLINK and it does enhance my ability to support the systems I am 
responsible for. Mostly I use it primarily to validate APARs/PTFs. Usually I 
access IBMLINK 3-5 times a week.

So, for the rest of you, take these comments as saying we (i.e. non-USA 
sysprogs) would appreciate IBM treating all of us equally. If you give us 
access to IBMLINK it should be the same IBMLINK as our US-based compatriots 
use.

IBMLINK for all - or NO IBMLINK at all !  

(and I think from the complaints that the second option might be self-creating)

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:49:26 +0200, R.S. 
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Robert Justice wrote:
 and I won't say the other comment, I promise.

Out of curiosity:
IBMlink is down again. So WHAT ?
I work everyday with mainframes, I use some IBM web services, like
ShopzSeries, but I have no interest to visit IBMlink.
IBMlink (un)availability has completely no meaning for me.

What I'm missing by not using IBMlink ???

Simply curious
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Re: PCI Compliance - Encryption of all non-console administrative access.

2007-08-01 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
Tim Wrote:
I worked with a credit card processor that was told by its PCI
auditors
that it must encrypt any sensitive information on disk, including
credit
card numbers, expiration dates, etc. This is typical and reality.
Maybe
your country's situation is different, although that might not
persist.

That is exactly the industry I am currently in, that is until USBANK
takes our mainframe away and do the processing in the US. But as I
understand it, PCI compliance can be negotiated with the Auditors who
then need to build a good case for the company with Master Card / VISA /
AMEX. We were able to complete most of the requirements over a 3 year
period, but I am convinced that if we stayed online beyond our current
end date, we might have been forced to buy some EMC disks and move our
customer data behind the middleware. I do not think it is a Country /
Region that determines the rules, it is internationally determined by
Master Card / VISA / AMEX / PCI.

Regards

Herbie
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IBMLINK vs Resource Link

2007-08-01 Thread Maarten Slegtenhorst
L.s,

Out of curiosity:
What is the difference between IBMLINK and Resource Link?

Btw.
- Our hardware guys use resource link
https://www-01.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/hom03010.nsf?OpenDatabase
- For PMR's I use : Software Service Request
https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/set2/ssr/slprob
- For APAR's I use : Technical help Database
http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/set2/srchBroker/views/srchBroker.js
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Re: Web access to mainframe datasets

2007-08-01 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Hi Brian,

There is a GWAPI DLL module called MVSDS that is a part of the HTTP
server that may fit your needs.  For example, if I point my browser to:

http://mainframe/MVSDS/'MY.JCLLIB'

It authenticates me and then if I have access shows me a member list
where I can click on a member and it shows the contents.  Very useful.
And it has other features, too.  Check the HTTP server book for more
info.

Regards,
Lindy

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Subject: Web access to mainframe datasets

Hi all,

I have decided that it would be kind of a cool idea to be able to access
some of our software (especially the Spool Offload facility) from a
secure
internet connection, but I don't want to use CICS services or DB/2
because I
can't gaurentee that they will be available at all of the sites that use
my
code.  I think that my approach has to be through WebSphere, or I would
need
to write my own server address space that services TCP sockets, but I
can't
find documentation on the best approach for doing this.  Maybe I'm just
looking in the wrong places.  Does anyone know of any documentation on
how
writing this process would best be done?

Thanks for your help.

Brian

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Re: IBMLINK vs Resource Link

2007-08-01 Thread John Ticic
-- snip --
Out of curiosity:
What is the difference between IBMLINK and Resource Link?

Btw.
- Our hardware guys use resource link
https://www-01.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/hom03010.nsf?OpenDatabase
- For PMR's I use : Software Service Request
https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/set2/ssr/slprob
- For APAR's I use : Technical help Database
http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/set2/srchBroker/views/srchBroker.js
p?rs=112
-- snip --

Resource link is hardware slanted (ie. Customer initiated upgrade)

Your two other links are not IBMLINK but the WEB offering for
service/support. Some of the functions of IBMLINK are duplicated, but
IBMLINK does a lot more (eg. APAR tracking). SIS in IBMLINK gives me more
hits for the same search string compared to the Technical help Database.
That can make a difference.

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Re: IBMLINK vs Resource Link

2007-08-01 Thread Maarten Slegtenhorst
John,

Thanks for the information.
As far as I know, nobody here uses IBMLINK.

Btw. Out of curiosity ( yes, I am very curious ) I visited the site of
your company 
and noticed multiple z/OS job vacancies, mainly system developer/system
designer

It is always good to know there are still mainframe-jobs available in
Europe.
Hamburg is a bit out of the way ( by european standards ), so I won't
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Resource link is hardware slanted (ie. Customer initiated upgrade)

Your two other links are not IBMLINK but the WEB offering for
service/support. Some of the functions of IBMLINK are duplicated, but
IBMLINK does a lot more (eg. APAR tracking). SIS in IBMLINK gives me
more hits for the same search string compared to the Technical help
Database. That can make a difference.
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Re: Is there any way that i can practice mainframe related subject without having access to one?

2007-08-01 Thread Don Higgins
Mohammad

1)  EXEC CICS support?

The z390 macro processor has built in parser to convert EXEC CICS space 
delimited commands into standard macro comma delimited calls to EXEC macro 
which in turn routes macro call to macro for each supported EXEC CICS 
command such as SEND, RECEIVE, LOAD, LINK, XCTL, GETMAIN, FREEMAIN, 
PUSH, POP, RETURN.  All the EXEC CICS support macros are in z390\cics 
directory.  For more doc info link visit:

http://www.automatedsoftwaretools.com/z390/z390_EXEC_CICS_Compatible_A
ssembler_Support.htm 

2)  COBOL compiler support?

There is no COBOL support as a part of z390.  However the z390 SOA TCP/IP 
sockets messaging could be used to connect z390 client programs with server 
programs supporting mainframe COBOL and other languages on the same or 
different processors on TCP/IP network. 

3)  VSAM LDS support?

I will add LDS option as it is really one of the easier options since all the 
J2SE 
NIO file support is linear based to start with. I'm interested in your DB2 
comment as the next project after z390 VSAM is to add SQL support for new 
JDB built into J2SE 6.0 plus other SQL data bases such as DB2, MS-SQL, 
Oracle, etc.

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Re: Web access to mainframe datasets

2007-08-01 Thread Steve Comstock

Brian Westerman wrote:

Hi all,

I have decided that it would be kind of a cool idea to be able to access
some of our software (especially the Spool Offload facility) from a secure
internet connection, but I don't want to use CICS services or DB/2 because I
can't gaurentee that they will be available at all of the sites that use my
code.  I think that my approach has to be through WebSphere, or I would need
to write my own server address space that services TCP sockets, but I can't
find documentation on the best approach for doing this.  Maybe I'm just
looking in the wrong places.  Does anyone know of any documentation on how
writing this process would best be done?

Thanks for your help.

Brian


I think you'll find WebSphere, while growing, not as widespread
as CICS. But why not build on the free HTTP server that comes
with z/OS? Everyone has it. There's some excellent documentation
on how to program for it.


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Upgrading the Processor - Keep in Mind

2007-08-01 Thread Jim Marshall
Just a few comments about some ideas I used to move from the z900s to 
z9BC. I too face a decision to outsource some work and was asked why I 
wanted to invest in newer technology when one machine potentially was going 
away in a year or two. There were many reasons except for how does one 
respond to accumulating excess capacity as things go away. 

The response was as the workload moves away, then I can 
dynamically downgrade the machine to less power; ipso-facto reducing 
software costs. In fact, I proposed to submit the request a year in advance of 
the move off date for a big workload; thus I could start downgrading ISV 
software, give procurement a chance to do their thing and when the workload 
moved off on schedule, then the savings would be immediate. Besides others 
could already start spending that savings and earmark the money for other 
efforts. 

Needless to say, I got the z9BC's, was told to hold off on placing the order 
for 
downgrades until it is closer to the time for rehosting, and we will see what 
happens over the coming months.  In the end, reality will always prevail. As I 
said, I hyped to the financial folks the downgrade capability of the z9BC and 
all the money it can save.  They love it. 

Jim

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COBOL Group moves

2007-08-01 Thread Rashmi Nijaguni Mogali
Hi,

I have a query regarding the following group move:

01 GRP1.
 05  N1   PIC S9(9) COMP-3 VALUE +0.
 05  N2   PIC S9(9) COMP-3 VALUE +0.

01 GRP2.
 05  N3   PIC S9(9) COMP-3 VALUE +123.

01 N4  PIC ZZZ,ZZZ,ZZ9.

PROCEDURE DIVISION.
INITIALIZE GRP1.
MOVE GRP2 TO GRP1.
MOVE N2 TO N4.
DISPLAY N4.

What value is displayed and why?

Regards,
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Re: COBOL Group moves

2007-08-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
Steve,

I am thinking that this might be better put to the Cobol language group on
Google?

There he could get the kind of details on COBOL that he might actually be
asking about.

Lizette


 
  I have a query regarding the following group move:
 
  01 GRP1.
   05  N1   PIC S9(9) COMP-3 VALUE +0.
   05  N2   PIC S9(9) COMP-3 VALUE +0.
 
  01 GRP2.
   05  N3   PIC S9(9) COMP-3 VALUE +123.
 
  01 N4  PIC ZZZ,ZZZ,ZZ9.
 
  PROCEDURE DIVISION.
  INITIALIZE GRP1.
  MOVE GRP2 TO GRP1.
  MOVE N2 TO N4.
  DISPLAY N4.
 
  What value is displayed and why?
 
  Regards,
  Rashmi
 
 Seems a bit off topic for ibm-main, and you could just
 run an experiment. But I'll have a go. You really only
 have one group move here: move grp2 to grp1. A group
 move is a character move, so the five bytes of N3 are
 placed over the five bytes of N1 and the rest of grp1
 (that turns out to be all of n2) is padded with blanks.
 
 The result of moving blanks, then, to an edited
 numeric field depends somewhat on various compiler
 settings. I really don't have the time to test out
 all the possibilities right now. I would rather, at
 this  point, throw the question back: what are you
 trying to accomplish? Why do you ask?
 
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Re: COBOL Group moves

2007-08-01 Thread Steve Comstock

Rashmi Nijaguni Mogali wrote:

Hi,

I have a query regarding the following group move:

01 GRP1.
 05  N1   PIC S9(9) COMP-3 VALUE +0.
 05  N2   PIC S9(9) COMP-3 VALUE +0.

01 GRP2.
 05  N3   PIC S9(9) COMP-3 VALUE +123.

01 N4  PIC ZZZ,ZZZ,ZZ9.

PROCEDURE DIVISION.
INITIALIZE GRP1.
MOVE GRP2 TO GRP1.
MOVE N2 TO N4.
DISPLAY N4.

What value is displayed and why?

Regards,
Rashmi


Seems a bit off topic for ibm-main, and you could just
run an experiment. But I'll have a go. You really only
have one group move here: move grp2 to grp1. A group
move is a character move, so the five bytes of N3 are
placed over the five bytes of N1 and the rest of grp1
(that turns out to be all of n2) is padded with blanks.

The result of moving blanks, then, to an edited
numeric field depends somewhat on various compiler
settings. I really don't have the time to test out
all the possibilities right now. I would rather, at
this  point, throw the question back: what are you
trying to accomplish? Why do you ask?



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SOC4 in DFSORT with DB2

2007-08-01 Thread George Bly
HI All

 

We went to DB2V8 this week.  Now we are getting S0C4's in DFSORT when using
DB2 utilities. 

 

I've read the informational APAR and I have it in correctly after my
SyncSort libs. 

 

I am working with IBM but has anyone else run into this problem.  

 

By the way:  IBMLINK went down when we first started researching the
problem.  It was very inconvenient to say the least. 

 

Thanks!!

 

George 

 

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IBMLink Using PC/3270

2007-08-01 Thread George Rodriguez
Yesterday, I asked IBM a question on ibm.advantis.net. The question was:
what port number to I use to gain access of IBMLink from PC/3270? I'm
still waiting on an answer, but this morning the web site for IBMLink is
down. Does anyone on the list know the answer to this question?

 

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Re: COBOL Group moves

2007-08-01 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I am thinking that this might be better put to the Cobol language group on 
Google?

I'm always suspicious when somebody from a service provider asks a basic 
question on IBM-Main.
The OP is from INFO-SYS, which among other services, provides companies with 
COBOL programming.

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Re: ICC Console

2007-08-01 Thread Andy White
Thanks to you and others that replied. We found out was wrong after all 
said and done... We had in the HMC definitions for the ICC an LU we made 
up like LU01 then put an IP address next to it of what we thought was the 
terminal. That was error number one when we put in the correct IP address 
it worked or blanked it out. The second thing was in the HCD we had the 
NIP console so low down in the order a 'hardwired' console through a 3174 
was picking it up. It now works fine. When we set our session to point to 
it we see the ICC information as the redbook states we should..



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 That doesn't sound right. The 3277 was part of the first generation of
 3270's, and I wouldn't expect a default older than the 3278.
 
 What I noticed was in the Consol00 member we had the UNIT(3270-X)
 which is  valid as per init and tuning.. 
 
 And is almost certainly what you should have.
 
 We then changed to UNIT(3277-2). 
 
 That would mean no extended highlighting and no screen size other than
 24x80.  I doubt that it's what you want.
 
 Any ideas? 
 
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Re: IBMLink Using PC/3270

2007-08-01 Thread Michael Bradley
George,

===
Yesterday, I asked IBM a question on ibm.advantis.net. The question was:
what port number to I use to gain access of IBMLink from PC/3270? I'm
still waiting on an answer, but this morning the web site for IBMLink is
down. Does anyone on the list know the answer to this question?
===
I think I saw someone refer to port 23 in the recent discussions.

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Re: Web access to mainframe datasets

2007-08-01 Thread A. Harry Williams
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 00:22:46 -0500 Brian Westerman said:
Hi all,

I have decided that it would be kind of a cool idea to be able to access
some of our software (especially the Spool Offload facility) from a secure
internet connection, but I don't want to use CICS services or DB/2 because I
can't gaurentee that they will be available at all of the sites that use my
code.  I think that my approach has to be through WebSphere, or I would need
to write my own server address space that services TCP sockets, but I can't
find documentation on the best approach for doing this.  Maybe I'm just
looking in the wrong places.  Does anyone know of any documentation on how
writing this process would best be done?

Not to be too pendantic, but WebSphere is a brand, not an application.
Same as Tivoli, Lotus, LinkSys, Mercury, Ford, etc.  You probably
mean WebSphere Application Server, or WebSphere AS, or WAS, which is
a J2EE implementation similar to Tomcat or several other J2EE systems.

I don't know the current marketshare, but WAS is not ubiquitous.  While
free, Tomcat is not universal either, and the two are not 100% interchangable.

The suggestion to use the Apache based free HTTP server shipped with the
system, because even if they have WAS, it uses that as its base, and
Tomcat will use something similar.

/ahw


Thanks for your help.

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ORIGINIAL VOLUME VOLSER PRIOR TO ML2 MIGRATION

2007-08-01 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
The FRVOL=DSP129 field indicates the originating volume for the backup. Unless 
the user moved the dataset then it is also the volume from which it was 
migrated. End of discussion.



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I am trying to find the name of original volume (volser of the disk) where a 
dataset was housed.  I did a :
  
  HSEND LIST DSN('PROM.LIB.SRC') both ods('ZWA6WG.ODS.OUTPUT')
  
  Under the FROM VOLUME column it has the volser.  However, I have been told by 
the user that it is not the original volume from which the dsn was migrated.
  
  Am I wrong?  If so is there another way of finding the volser of the disk 
where the dsn was migrated from?
  
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Re: IBMLink Using PC/3270

2007-08-01 Thread George Rodriguez
Hi Mike,

Snip refer to port 23 in the recent discussions.

That's the port I'm using, but it's not working...I'm getting a comm
error 657...Any ideas?

TIA,
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DFHSM QUESTION : ORIGINIAL VOLUME VOLSER PRIOR TO ML2 MIGRATION

2007-08-01 Thread John Dawes
I am trying to find the name of original volume (volser of the disk) where a 
dataset was housed.  I did a :
   
  HSEND LIST DSN('PROM.LIB.SRC') both ods('ZWA6WG.ODS.OUTPUT')
   
  Under the FROM VOLUME column it has the volser.  However, I have been told by 
the user that it is not the original volume from which the dsn was migrated.
   
  Am I wrong?  If so is there another way of finding the volser of the disk 
where the dsn was migrated from?
   
  Thank You 


   
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Re: SOC4 in DFSORT with DB2

2007-08-01 Thread George Bly
We have sys1.sicelink and sys1.sortlpa in the right place.

George 

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We had to place DFSORT after the SYNCSORT library in the linklist parm
member.

I know this was very confusing when we had this problem.


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Re: SOC4 in DFSORT with DB2

2007-08-01 Thread Laine, Rogers
We had to place DFSORT after the SYNCSORT library in the linklist parm
member.

I know this was very confusing when we had this problem.


Rogers 

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HI All

 

We went to DB2V8 this week.  Now we are getting S0C4's in DFSORT when
using
DB2 utilities. 

 

I've read the informational APAR and I have it in correctly after my
SyncSort libs. 

 

I am working with IBM but has anyone else run into this problem.  

 

By the way:  IBMLINK went down when we first started researching the
problem.  It was very inconvenient to say the least. 

 

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Re: web IBMLINK down again - so what ?

2007-08-01 Thread Chase, John
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Joel C. Ewing
 
 [ snip many good examples ]
 
 Occasionally I may go a week or two without using IBMLink, 
 but when I need it, I need it ASAP.

One might say IBMLink is like insurance:  When you need it, you need
it NOW.

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Re: COBOL Group moves

2007-08-01 Thread R.S.

Ted MacNEIL wrote:

I am thinking that this might be better put to the Cobol language group on 
Google?


I'm always suspicious when somebody from a service provider asks a basic 
question on IBM-Main.
The OP is from INFO-SYS, which among other services, provides companies with 
COBOL programming.


Maybe he' from another department. It happens.

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Re: Is there any way that i can practice mainframe related subject without having access to one?

2007-08-01 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Thanks for this, Don.  I've been looking at it.  Very nice.

How difficult would it be to create a full screen XDC / Xpediter like debugger?

Lindy

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In addition to Hercules for emulation of MVS 3.8 on a PC, there is also the 
z390 portable mianframe assembler and emulator open source Java J2SE tool.  
You can download z390 from www.z390.org for installation on Windows XP or 
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Re: IBMLink Using PC/3270

2007-08-01 Thread Michael Bradley
George,

==
Snip refer to port 23 in the recent discussions.

That's the port I'm using, but it's not working...I'm getting a comm
error 657...Any ideas?
==

Can't find any reference in BookManager quickly.  Sorry

Michael

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Re: COBOL Group moves

2007-08-01 Thread Ron Hawkins
And your point is...

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 I am thinking that this might be better put to the Cobol language group
 on Google?
 
 I'm always suspicious when somebody from a service provider asks a basic
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 The OP is from INFO-SYS, which among other services, provides companies
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Re: IBMLink Web interface - SEV1 # 32669880, 1 August 2007

2007-08-01 Thread Dean Montevago
We should get a rebate on the maintenance we pay. This is really
ridiculous

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So, what else is new?

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IBMLink Web interface - SEV1 # 32669880, 1 August 2007

2007-08-01 Thread Chase, John
So, what else is new?

-jc-


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Re: SOC4 in DFSORT with DB2

2007-08-01 Thread George Bly
Hi All 

We do have lnklst libs in the right spot. 

No steplibs in the utility jobs.  

But I did not link the svc because we have SMF=NO. 

IBMLINK is down and we just set another dump but we can't update the PMR.

This is why it is important that IBMLINK be more reliable.  

George

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Re: PTF list for a subset from PSP bucket

2007-08-01 Thread Srivastava, Rajesh
Alan,

Thanks.

I used it yesterday.

It is a great time saver.

Thanks,

Raj  

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Do some research on the Enhanced PSP Tool (Use your favourite search
engine).

I think it might provide what you are looking for. 

Alan


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Hi There,


Please suggest a quick way to get complete list of PTF for a given
subset of PSP Bucket.


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Re: COBOL Group moves

2007-08-01 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 16:45:30 +0530 Rashmi Nijaguni Mogali
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:I have a query regarding the following group move:

:01 GRP1.
: 05  N1   PIC S9(9) COMP-3 VALUE +0.
: 05  N2   PIC S9(9) COMP-3 VALUE +0.

:01 GRP2.
: 05  N3   PIC S9(9) COMP-3 VALUE +123.

:01 N4  PIC ZZZ,ZZZ,ZZ9.

:PROCEDURE DIVISION.
:INITIALIZE GRP1.
:MOVE GRP2 TO GRP1.

All group moves are character.

:MOVE N2 TO N4.
:DISPLAY N4.

:What value is displayed and why?

404,040,404 (unless the compiler generates real nutty code).

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Re: SOC4 in DFSORT with DB2

2007-08-01 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi George,

You might want to check APAR II14047 USE OF DFSORT BY DB2 UTILITIES and
make sure you didn't miss anything.

We had to add the following libraries to the linklist ( APF auth)
SYS1.SICELINK
SYS1.SORTLPA

(the link list order for sort libraries should be as follows)
SYSx.SYNCSORT
SYS1.SICELINK 
SYS1.SORTLPA 


Make sure you don't have more than one SORT in LPA.  The DFSORT LPA
library you probably want in link list not LPA if SYNCSORT is your
primary sort.

Check to make sure the DFSORT SVC you are pointing at is the right one
and correctly defined and loaded on these LPARs.

If you are a SYNCSORT shop like us and you omit the APF or the DFSORT
data sets you might get odd errors.  We got 

DSNU095I DSNUGUTC - UTILITY 'LOAD' INCONSISTENT WITH LAST INVOCATION 
DSNU016I DSNUGBAC - UTILITY BATCH MEMORY EXECUTION ABENDED, 
REASON=X'00E40018'

Finally once we were running in production I had to do a USERMOD to
limit the use of system resources memory above the bar by DFSORT which
was only supporting a small part of the sort workload.

//SMPPTFIN  DD  *

++ USERMOD(MSMOPT1) REWORK(2006080) .

++ VER  (Z038) FMID (HSM1G00)  .

++ SRCUPD (ICEAM1)  DISTMOD (AICELIB) DISTLIB (AICESRCE)

 /* The ICEAM1 member in the AICESRCE library contains the default

lines for creating the ICEAM1 module.  A model ICEMAC JCL

statement for customizing the ICEAM1 module is shown below.

Replace it with an ICEMAC JCL statement that specifies the

parameters you want to use for ICEAM1.  Use the correct

sequence numbers in columns 73-80 to replace the appropriate

lines in the ICEAM1 member.

GEICO customizes the defaults

 */ .

./ CHANGE NAME=ICEAM1

   ICEMAC  JCL,  JCL INVOKED SORTS X0055
   SMF=FULL,GENERATE FULL SMF RECORDS  X00551000
   DSA=128,2X DEFAULT DSA PERFORMANCE IMP  X00552000
   EXPMAX=25%, LIMIT AGGREGATE HIPER/MEMOBJ USEX00553000
   EXPOLD=25%   LIMIT PAGING CAUSED BY SORTING 00554000
. . . Rinse . . . Wash . . . Repeat for all 4 DFSORT environments see
the IBM documentation.

As an aside the technical staff for both SyncSORT and DFSORT are
outstanding.  You can get good support through the official channels and
lots of great informal advice here from participants like John Reda,
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We have sys1.sicelink and sys1.sortlpa in the right place.

George 

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We had to place DFSORT after the SYNCSORT library in the linklist parm
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I know this was very confusing when we had this problem.


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Re: SOC4 in DFSORT with DB2

2007-08-01 Thread Laine, Rogers
George,

Do you have the SDSNEXIT,SDSNLINK,SDSNLOD2,  SDSNLOAD before the
SICELINK  SORTLPA?
Are you using STEPLIB in your utility jcl?

Rogers  

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We have sys1.sicelink and sys1.sortlpa in the right place.

George 

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I know this was very confusing when we had this problem.


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Re: SOC4 in DFSORT with DB2

2007-08-01 Thread Ed Gould

On Aug 1, 2007, at 8:42 AM, George Bly wrote:


Hi All

We do have lnklst libs in the right spot.

No steplibs in the utility jobs.

But I did not link the svc because we have SMF=NO.

IBMLINK is down and we just set another dump but we can't update  
the PMR.


This is why it is important that IBMLINK be more reliable.

George


George,

This is interesting. Is IBM saying the libraries (DFSORT) contain  
duplicate lmods names? If so that seems (to me) to go against SMP/e   
I would be happy if someone could explain the issue.


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Re: COBOL Group moves

2007-08-01 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom
 
 Actually if you have gotten blanks into N2 which is defined 
 as a packed field and then try to move that to N4 which is a 
 display field won't you end up with and abend when it tries 
 to unpack a field which isn't really in packed format?

It's not the UNPK instruction that suffers the S0C7, but any
packed-decimal instruction (except ZAP with a packed-decimal source
field).  UNPK just expands each nybble but the rightmost byte into a
byte, and inserts a sign nybble of x'F'; and just reverses the order
of the nybbles in the rigntmost byte of the field being unpacked.  It
can suffer a S0C4 and perhaps other interruptions, but not a S0C7.

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Re: IBMLink Web interface - SEV1 # 32669880, 1 August 2007

2007-08-01 Thread Ed Finnell
 
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Re: COBOL Group moves

2007-08-01 Thread Rugen, Len
Taking a ride on the way-back machine (cartoon reference)

There was a cobol compiler option that would print the generated
assembler code.  I'd just turn that on to SEE what was happening.

But then I've also zapped patches into cobol object code before also

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Re: COBOL Group moves

2007-08-01 Thread Kelman, Tom
Actually if you have gotten blanks into N2 which is defined as a packed
field and then try to move that to N4 which is a display field won't you
end up with and abend when it tries to unpack a field which isn't really
in packed format?

Tom Kelman
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 16:45:30 +0530 Rashmi Nijaguni Mogali
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:I have a query regarding the following group move:

:01 GRP1.
: 05  N1   PIC S9(9) COMP-3 VALUE +0.
: 05  N2   PIC S9(9) COMP-3 VALUE +0.

:01 GRP2.
: 05  N3   PIC S9(9) COMP-3 VALUE +123.

:01 N4  PIC ZZZ,ZZZ,ZZ9.

:PROCEDURE DIVISION.
:INITIALIZE GRP1.
:MOVE GRP2 TO GRP1.

All group moves are character.

:MOVE N2 TO N4.
:DISPLAY N4.

:What value is displayed and why?

404,040,404 (unless the compiler generates real nutty code).

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Re: SOC4 in DFSORT with DB2

2007-08-01 Thread Gerri Booth, State of Wisconsin
A few weeks ago someone at IBM support provided us with the following URL
that allows us to open/view/update PMRs when IBMLink is down.  I've found it
very useful.  We have Software Excel Extended contract with IBM, so I don't
know if this URL will work for everyone.

https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/set2/ssr/slprob

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Re: Web access to mainframe datasets

2007-08-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 00:39:00 -0500, Rich Smrcina wrote:

Can you really guarantee that WebSphere will be available in all sites
as well?  Not likely.

Is this available in the sense in which the word is used in automobile ads?
k
A server address space using TCP Sockets is probably the best approach
(unless the CICS listener method will work for you).  Unfortunately, I
don't know any doc offhand that will point you in the right direction.

I believe IMWEBSRV is available in the sense that it's delivered with
the base z/OS.  This doesn't guarantee that it will be configured or started
at any particular site.

Brian Westerman wrote:

 internet connection, but I don't want to use CICS services or DB/2 because I
 can't gaurentee that they will be available at all of the sites that use my
 code.  I think that my approach has to be through WebSphere, or I would need

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Re: COBOL Group moves

2007-08-01 Thread Hardee, Charles H
Hey Sherman (completing the reference),

If my memory serves me correctly, and lately I'm not sure, the option to
which you refer is PMAP.

Chuck

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Taking a ride on the way-back machine (cartoon reference)

There was a cobol compiler option that would print the generated
assembler code.  I'd just turn that on to SEE what was happening.

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Re: COBOL Group moves

2007-08-01 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 09:01:11 -0500 Kelman, Tom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

:Actually if you have gotten blanks into N2 which is defined as a packed
:field and then try to move that to N4 which is a display field won't you
:end up with and abend when it tries to unpack a field which isn't really
:in packed format?

First of all, it will need to generate an ED, not an UNPK. ED will only S0C7
is there is a sign value in a digit position (top half of the nibble).

Yes, it is possible that if the compiler is brain dead it will ZAP N2 into a
temp field before doing the ED, but that should not be necessary as N2 and N4
have the same number of digits.

Code should be.

   MVC  tempfld,=X'402020206B2020206b202120'
   ED   tempfld,N2
   MVC  N4,tempfld+1(11)

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:Subject: Re: COBOL Group moves

:On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 16:45:30 +0530 Rashmi Nijaguni Mogali
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

::I have a query regarding the following group move:

::01 GRP1.
:: 05  N1   PIC S9(9) COMP-3 VALUE +0.
:: 05  N2   PIC S9(9) COMP-3 VALUE +0.

::01 GRP2.
:: 05  N3   PIC S9(9) COMP-3 VALUE +123.

::01 N4  PIC ZZZ,ZZZ,ZZ9.

::PROCEDURE DIVISION.
::INITIALIZE GRP1.
::MOVE GRP2 TO GRP1.

:All group moves are character.

::MOVE N2 TO N4.
::DISPLAY N4.

::What value is displayed and why?

:404,040,404 (unless the compiler generates real nutty code).

:What do I win?

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Re: Web access to mainframe datasets

2007-08-01 Thread McKown, John
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 Is IMWEBSRV the Apache Web server on z/OS?  If so, that has 
 nothing to 
 do with writing a stand alone sockets application and handling the 
 communications yourself.
 
 Paul Gilmartin wrote:
  I believe IMWEBSRV is available in the sense that it's 
 delivered with
  the base z/OS.  This doesn't guarantee that it will be 
 configured or started
  at any particular site.
  
 
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came with z/OS 1.6, but Apache did not. The last that I know of (may be
out of date) is that Apache must be downloaded and installed separately
from z/OS.

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/unix/bpxa1ty1.html

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Re: SOC4 in DFSORT with DB2

2007-08-01 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 09:08:31 -0500 Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

:On Aug 1, 2007, at 8:42 AM, George Bly wrote:

: We do have lnklst libs in the right spot.

: No steplibs in the utility jobs.

: But I did not link the svc because we have SMF=NO.

: IBMLINK is down and we just set another dump but we can't update  
: the PMR.

: This is why it is important that IBMLINK be more reliable.

:This is interesting. Is IBM saying the libraries (DFSORT) contain  
:duplicate lmods names? If so that seems (to me) to go against SMP/e   
:I would be happy if someone could explain the issue.

I would expect that both syncsort and dfsort have different lmod names. They
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Re: z/OS

2007-08-01 Thread Ron Wells
Is there a z/OS freebee to test/run under Hercules ..? 

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Re: COBOL Group moves

2007-08-01 Thread McKown, John
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 Hey Sherman (completing the reference),
 
 If my memory serves me correctly, and lately I'm not sure, 
 the option to
 which you refer is PMAP.
 
 Chuck

LIST for the newer COBOL compilers. PMAP was for OS/VS COBOL.

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Re: Question on CA-Eztrieve

2007-08-01 Thread Bryan Klimek
While we are on the topic of CA-Easytrieve, does anybody know of an internet 
listserve or public forum for CA-Easytrieve questions? I recently tried to 
upgrade to Release 11.0. I wound up opening 4 issues with them. Then I was 
told to wait for service pack 1. At that point I simply gave up. My plans are 
to 
now wait for service pack 2 (if there is one) and try again later this year.

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Re: Web access to mainframe datasets

2007-08-01 Thread Rich Smrcina
Is IMWEBSRV the Apache Web server on z/OS?  If so, that has nothing to 
do with writing a stand alone sockets application and handling the 
communications yourself.


Paul Gilmartin wrote:

I believe IMWEBSRV is available in the sense that it's delivered with
the base z/OS.  This doesn't guarantee that it will be configured or started
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Re: COBOL Group moves

2007-08-01 Thread Jim McAlpine
On 8/1/07, Hardee, Charles H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey Sherman (completing the reference),

 If my memory serves me correctly, and lately I'm not sure, the option to
 which you refer is PMAP.

 Chuck


That was way back.  The option is now LIST.

Jim McAlpine

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Quoting Style

2007-08-01 Thread Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I recently received an off-list message admonishing me for an incorrect
attribution.  I grant that I trimmed hastily, but I don't know how guilty
I should feel.  The lines I misattributed appeared in a message from the
misattributee, apparently, I see now, in a citation of an earlier message,
but without the conventional   quotation indicators, and interspersed
with quotations of an earlier message so marked (but with one level of
quotes, not two).  It's too easy a mistake to make.

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Re: IBMLink Web interface - SEV1 # 32669880, 1 August 2007

2007-08-01 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
The situation is actually worse than just IBMLINK. I just tried to check the 
dates of the ZSeries conference and got a 304 off of the training link on the 
IBM Home page.
 
Sun et al must be enjoying this.




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Re: Web access to mainframe datasets

2007-08-01 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 8/1/2007 7:49:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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I don't  know the current marketshare, but WAS is not ubiquitous.  While
free,  Tomcat is not universal either, and the two are not 100%  
interchangable.

The suggestion to use the Apache based free HTTP server  shipped with the
system, because even if they have WAS, it uses that as its  base, and




Guess the planning matrix should include labor costs for supporting another  
application, etc...Anyway as I've said before the 'committee' decided on 
ePrint  from _www.leadtools.com_ (http://www.leadtools.com)  It comes in  
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flavors and features. With a Linux box and software it was cheaper than  
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Re: some basic questions about Z system, Zlinux....

2007-08-01 Thread legolas wood

Hi every one.
I am back with another question

I studied one flash based tutorial and some other web pages/pdf 
presentations. I should say that Flash based learning materials are far 
better place for new learners to start from.


As There are several OSs that run on System Z, Which one is the Default 
OS on IBM mainframe?
I mean, Does IBM sell all of them to a customer when it buys a mainframe 
or customer has the option to select the OS ?


Another question is, Z/VM allows us to install several Linux for System 
Z on it and for example cluster the application server which is 
installed on it. so we can achieve high availability and handle heavy 
work load, what about Z/OS ?

It has not a virtual machine, so it can run one OS at the same time.

My question is,
When we have websphere and DB2 as main components of a big system, which 
OS can be selected for them?
I thought that Z/VM could be the choice as it simulate the way that we 
already deploy application server instances and database, but If Z/VM is 
correct choice, what is use of Z/OS?


Thanks


Ted MacNEIL wrote:

It has gone from MFT to MVT to SVS to MVS


to MVS/XA to MVS/ESA and now z/OS.

You missed OS/390 (between MVS/ESA and z/OS).

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Re: Web access to mainframe datasets

2007-08-01 Thread Itschak Mugzach
CICS is not a solution as it does not support QSAM and trying to access
sequential datasets or libraries will cause CICS to cease. 

Itschak  

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Brian Westerman wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have decided that it would be kind of a cool idea to be able to 
 access some of our software (especially the Spool Offload facility) 
 from a secure internet connection, but I don't want to use CICS 
 services or DB/2 because I can't gaurentee that they will be available 
 at all of the sites that use my code.  I think that my approach has to 
 be through WebSphere, or I would need to write my own server address 
 space that services TCP sockets, but I can't find documentation on the 
 best approach for doing this.  Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong 
 places.  Does anyone know of any documentation on how writing this process
would best be done?
 
 Thanks for your help.
 
 Brian

I think you'll find WebSphere, while growing, not as widespread as CICS. But
why not build on the free HTTP server that comes with z/OS? Everyone has it.
There's some excellent documentation on how to program for it.


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Re: SOC4 in DFSORT with DB2

2007-08-01 Thread Tergerson, John
George,

We got an 0C4, and also a U0083 symptom using DFSORT to do reorgs on a
tablespace with a lot of indexes.

The DBA had set up sortnum to 160 so they would never have to compute
sort work space.  When they reduced it to 80, things worked fine.  The
tablespace with the problem was small, but has lots of indexes.  Large
tablespaces with fewer indexes could be reorged with larger sortnum.

There are two new APARs we caused.  Look at OA21854 and  darn, I
can't get to IBMLink to find the other, if it was even assigned yet.

In our case, the large number of sortnum caused a condition that
exceeded the allowable size of the TIOT.  The allocation APAR is to give
the user a better symptom than abend0C4 to tell the user what is wrong.
The 0C4 is because the slot allocation was trying to free up was for
VIO, which does not have a control block they were looking for.

The DB2 APAR is to address an issue of why they were asking for an
enormous number of sortwork datasets.  I'll post that whenever I can
find it.  Asking for sortnum of 80 for most reorgs, though, gave us a
welcome bypass.

Hope that helps.

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Subject: SOC4 in DFSORT with DB2

HI All
We went to DB2V8 this week.  Now we are getting S0C4's in DFSORT when
using
DB2 utilities. 
I've read the informational APAR and I have it in correctly after my
SyncSort libs. 
I am working with IBM but has anyone else run into this problem.  
By the way:  IBMLINK went down when we first started researching the
problem.  It was very inconvenient to say the least. 
Thanks!!
George

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Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?

2007-08-01 Thread Jon Brock
Thanks for this reference, Lizette.  I hadn't heard of that one.  

I'm not interested in changing jobs, but it's nice to know that there is
a place to look for this sort of thing.

Jon



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My website of Choice for salary ranges is in SALARY.COM.

The wizard is free and seems fair in its ranges.

Lizette
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Re: SOC4 in DFSORT with DB2

2007-08-01 Thread Tergerson, John
George,

I should have mentioned that our Abend0C4 was in IEFAB42A, or IEFAB421,
depending on what you are looking at.

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George,

We got an 0C4, and also a U0083 symptom using DFSORT to do reorgs on a
tablespace with a lot of indexes.

The DBA had set up sortnum to 160 so they would never have to compute
sort work space.  When they reduced it to 80, things worked fine.  The
tablespace with the problem was small, but has lots of indexes.  Large
tablespaces with fewer indexes could be reorged with larger sortnum.

There are two new APARs we caused.  Look at OA21854 and  darn, I
can't get to IBMLink to find the other, if it was even assigned yet.

In our case, the large number of sortnum caused a condition that
exceeded the allowable size of the TIOT.  The allocation APAR is to give
the user a better symptom than abend0C4 to tell the user what is wrong.
The 0C4 is because the slot allocation was trying to free up was for
VIO, which does not have a control block they were looking for.

The DB2 APAR is to address an issue of why they were asking for an
enormous number of sortwork datasets.  I'll post that whenever I can
find it.  Asking for sortnum of 80 for most reorgs, though, gave us a
welcome bypass.

Hope that helps.

John


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Subject: SOC4 in DFSORT with DB2

HI All
We went to DB2V8 this week.  Now we are getting S0C4's in DFSORT when
using
DB2 utilities. 
I've read the informational APAR and I have it in correctly after my
SyncSort libs. 
I am working with IBM but has anyone else run into this problem.  
By the way:  IBMLINK went down when we first started researching the
problem.  It was very inconvenient to say the least. 
Thanks!!
George

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Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?

2007-08-01 Thread Jon Brock
Thanks for the link, Dave.  The one I had no longer worked.

Jon


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 All the witty repartee is great, but does anyone have any actual
numbers
 that would be relevant?  I thought I had the 2007 Robert Half survey,
 but I can't find it.

I don't have it, but you can get it here: http://tinyurl.com/htolh

More links here: http://jobstar.org/tools/salary/sal-comp.php
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Re: Question about the listserv

2007-08-01 Thread Darren Evans-Young
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Ed Gould wrote:

 On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Ed Gould wrote:

 Correction: I sent you a rejected item saying I was not a member and
 asked why. I never heard back.



Darren:

Here is the partial copy of the email I sent to you:

Darren,

Is there a problem?

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Found it. My mail filter caught it because the subject line was
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Re: Web access to mainframe datasets

2007-08-01 Thread Rich Smrcina

OK, thanks for the info.

McKown, John wrote:

No. IMWEBSRV is not Apache. There is a separate Apache port for z/OS. I
don't know if it is distributed with the latest z/OS releases. IMWEBSRV
came with z/OS 1.6, but Apache did not. The last that I know of (may be
out of date) is that Apache must be downloaded and installed separately
from z/OS.

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/unix/bpxa1ty1.html

http://people.apache.org/~trawick/apache-2-on-zos.html


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Re: z/OS

2007-08-01 Thread McKown, John
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 Is there a z/OS freebee to test/run under Hercules ..? 

No.

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Re: some basic questions about Z system, Zlinux....

2007-08-01 Thread Timothy Sipples
Legolas Wood writes:
As There are several OSs that run on System Z, Which one is
the Default OS on IBM mainframe? I mean, Does IBM sell all
of them to a customer when it buys a mainframe or customer
has the option to select the OS ?

It's entirely the mainframe owner's choice. A single mainframe can run all
5 at the same time if the owner wishes.

Another question is, Z/VM allows us to install several
Linux for System Z on it and for example cluster the
application server which is installed on it. so we can
achieve high availability and handle heavy work load,
what about Z/OS ? It has not a virtual machine, so it
can run one OS at the same time.

First of all, just as with Linux, z/OS can also run within z/VM virtual
machines. Actually, all 5 operating systems can, including z/VM itself.

But bear in mind that each mainframe has first level virtualization called
LPARs (logical partitions), managed by something called PR/SM. This is all
part of the hardware itself and comes with every system. You can define up
to 30 (System z9 BC) or up to 60 (System z9 EC) LPARs without z/VM, and
PR/SM can dynamically allocate resources to each LPAR. This is how most
mainframe owners run z/OS, in LPARs.

So why is it more common to run z/OS in LPARs and Linux in z/VM (with z/VM
in the LPAR)? Because z/OS itself has considerable virtualization
capabilities. I would recommend studying the z/OS references mentioned
earlier to start to get an idea about the many characteristics that make
z/OS unique, including z/OS address spaces, WLM, RRS, ARM, UNIX System
Services, DVIPA, Parallel Sysplex, GDPS, and much more.

My question is, When we have websphere and DB2 as
main components of a big system, which OS can be selected
for them?

WebSphere Application Server is available on the mainframe twice: both for
z/OS and for Linux on z.

There are versions of DB2 available for z/OS, Linux on z, z/VSE, and z/VM
(4 out of the 5 supported operating systems).

I thought that Z/VM could be the choice as it simulate the
way that we already deploy application server instances and
database, but If Z/VM is correct choice, what is use of Z/OS?

There is a long list of capabilities z/OS has that Linux does not. For
example, z/OS runs CICS and IMS, the world's two most popular transaction
processing systems.  (The other half of IMS is a very popular and important
information management system.) But, in simple terms, here's the
comparison: while Linux on System z offers the highest qualities of service
of any Linux implementation, z/OS offers the highest qualities of service
of any operating system.  Qualities of service include characteristics like
reliability, availability, security, disaster recovery, performance and
scalability, manageability, etc.

You can run both of course, and they complement each other very well.

- - - - -
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Re: Question about the listserv : Mail-syntax

2007-08-01 Thread Edward Jaffe

Maarten Slegtenhorst wrote:

The RFC 2646 ( aug 1999 ) is made obsolete by RFC 3676 ( feb 2004 )   ;)
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3676.txt 
  


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HMC - Load type SCSI

2007-08-01 Thread R.S.
WHen I drag  drop Load icon on LPAR icon, I don't see SCSI type of 
load. Only Normal and Clear are visible.

I RTFMed HMC, but not found any clue.

Q: what condition should be met to have SCSI load available ?


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Re: COBOL Group moves

2007-08-01 Thread GAVIN Darren * OPS EAS
Rashmi,

As the other person said, GRP2 of five bytes would overlay the first
five byte of GRP1, the rest of GRP1 is filled with spaces.

Unless you are using some unsafe compiler options, then the statement
MOVE N2 TO N4 should abend with an S0C7 (Data Decimal Exception) as N2
is not a valid number.

However you could do the move using reference modification like this

MOVE GRP2 TO GRP1(1:LENGTH OF GRP2).

In which case N2 would remain a 0 when the display statement is reached.

Darren

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Hi,

I have a query regarding the following group move:

01 GRP1.
 05  N1   PIC S9(9) COMP-3 VALUE +0.
 05  N2   PIC S9(9) COMP-3 VALUE +0.

01 GRP2.
 05  N3   PIC S9(9) COMP-3 VALUE +123.

01 N4  PIC ZZZ,ZZZ,ZZ9.

PROCEDURE DIVISION.
INITIALIZE GRP1.
MOVE GRP2 TO GRP1.
MOVE N2 TO N4.
DISPLAY N4.

What value is displayed and why?

Regards,
Rashmi

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Re: HMC - Load type SCSI

2007-08-01 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
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 I thought the following was simply fascinating
 
 http://www.research.ibm.com/journal/rd/483/banzhaf.html

Wow, indeed!  Thank you for that link.

Peter

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Re: Is there any way that i can practice mainframe related subject without having access to one?

2007-08-01 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Sorry, Dave, I meant for the Java z390 assembler emulator.  (-:  Or
maybe it could be done in Eclipse, that would be cool.  That would be
really cool, to write an assembler program in Eclipse like you write
Java and have the z390 emulate, show errors, and debug.  



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At 8/1/2007 09:10 AM, you wrote:
Thanks for this, Don.  I've been looking at it.  Very nice.

How difficult would it be to create a full screen XDC / Xpediter 
like debugger?

Lindy

Not very easy. [;)]


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Re: HMC - Load type SCSI

2007-08-01 Thread Brian Peterson
I thought the following was simply fascinating

http://www.research.ibm.com/journal/rd/483/banzhaf.html

Brian

On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 17:37:55 +0200, R.S. wrote:

WHen I drag  drop Load icon on LPAR icon, I don't see SCSI type of
load. Only Normal and Clear are visible.
I RTFMed HMC, but not found any clue.

Q: what condition should be met to have SCSI load available ?


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Re: Is there any way that i can practice mainframe related subject without having access to one?

2007-08-01 Thread David Cole

At 8/1/2007 09:10 AM, you wrote:

Thanks for this, Don.  I've been looking at it.  Very nice.

How difficult would it be to create a full screen XDC / Xpediter 
like debugger?


Lindy


Not very easy. [;)]


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Re: IBMLink Using PC/3270

2007-08-01 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 8/1/2007 11:00:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Probably  a firewall issue of some sort. It's working just fine for me:  
ibmlink.advantis.com port 23.




Big honkin' IBMLINK Clist
 
Proc 0
telnet ibmlink.advantis.com
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Re: IBMLink Using PC/3270

2007-08-01 Thread Edward Jaffe

Ed Finnell wrote:

Big honkin' IBMLINK Clist
 
Proc 0

telnet ibmlink.advantis.com
end
  


Wow! That's cool! I didn't know that would work!

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IBM's Project Big Green Spurs Global Shift to Linux on Mainframe

2007-08-01 Thread Jim Harrison

Google news actually picked up on this one:

Plan to Shrink 3,900 Computer Servers to About 30 Mainframes Targets 80 
Percent Energy Reduction Over Five Years


August 01, 2007: 08:45 AM EST


In one of the most significant transformations of its worldwide data centers 
in a generation, IBM (NYSE: IBM) today announced that it will consolidate 
about 3,900 computer servers onto about 30 System z mainframes running the 
Linux operating system. The company anticipates that the new server 
environment will consume approximately 80 percent less energy than the 
current set up and expects significant savings over five years in energy, 
software and system support costs.


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Re: SOC4 in DFSORT with DB2

2007-08-01 Thread David Betten
I don't want to circumvent the PMR process but thought I'd offer some a
thought based on this information.  Double check the storage class that the
sortwork datasets are being assigned to and make sure the default unit
count is 1.  Sortwork datasets cannot be multi-volume so there's no point
in having a default greater than one.  If the default volume count is
something high, like 59, then you're probably going to exceed the TIOT
threshold.


Have a nice day,
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 George,

 I should have mentioned that our Abend0C4 was in IEFAB42A, or IEFAB421,
 depending on what you are looking at.

 John


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 Subject: Re: SOC4 in DFSORT with DB2

 George,

 We got an 0C4, and also a U0083 symptom using DFSORT to do reorgs on a
 tablespace with a lot of indexes.

 The DBA had set up sortnum to 160 so they would never have to compute
 sort work space.  When they reduced it to 80, things worked fine.  The
 tablespace with the problem was small, but has lots of indexes.  Large
 tablespaces with fewer indexes could be reorged with larger sortnum.

 There are two new APARs we caused.  Look at OA21854 and  darn, I
 can't get to IBMLink to find the other, if it was even assigned yet.

 In our case, the large number of sortnum caused a condition that
 exceeded the allowable size of the TIOT.  The allocation APAR is to give
 the user a better symptom than abend0C4 to tell the user what is wrong.
 The 0C4 is because the slot allocation was trying to free up was for
 VIO, which does not have a control block they were looking for.

 The DB2 APAR is to address an issue of why they were asking for an
 enormous number of sortwork datasets.  I'll post that whenever I can
 find it.  Asking for sortnum of 80 for most reorgs, though, gave us a
 welcome bypass.

 Hope that helps.

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 Subject: SOC4 in DFSORT with DB2

 HI All
 We went to DB2V8 this week.  Now we are getting S0C4's in DFSORT when
 using
 DB2 utilities.
 I've read the informational APAR and I have it in correctly after my
 SyncSort libs.
 I am working with IBM but has anyone else run into this problem.
 By the way:  IBMLINK went down when we first started researching the
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 Thanks!!
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Re: Question about the listserv : Mail-syntax

2007-08-01 Thread Ed Rohr
Amsterdam could be a problem...
I understand that they have terrible traffic problems and lots of red
lights,
And it is almost impossible to get a coffee in a coffee house.
And if you go to the museum there is this guy who puts the ear where the
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Maarten Slegtenhorst wrote:
 The RFC 2646 ( aug 1999 ) is made obsolete by RFC 3676 ( feb 2004 )
;)
 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3676.txt
   

Excellent! I was unaware of this update. Thanks for pointing it out!

Now, if you can just convince the more stubborn list participants to 
actually follow the documented standard, I'll consider flying to 
Amsterdam (or wherever you're located in the Netherlands) to personally 
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Re: IBMLink Using PC/3270

2007-08-01 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 8/1/2007 11:14:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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Wow!  That's cool! I didn't know that would work!




It does tie up a TSO session, but in the olden days it was useful for  
downloads too! Been using it for years. Now with Internet  delivery...



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Re: COBOL Group moves

2007-08-01 Thread Fletcher, Kevin
snip
 
It could be worse.  We had a guy on here last week asking how to convert
a string of hex characters into a binary number.  He was given the *two*
instructions that he needed.  He then had to get back to us to find out
how to extend his program's addressability beyond 4KiB.  We also had to
tell him which manual to look in to find the answers.  
 
He then posted this masterpiece on his *copyrighted* hints and tips
website.  :-)  
 
/snip 

J,

I remember seeing that thread, who was this sarcasm assembler wizard
/sarcasm and where are these *copyrighted* hints and tips. 

Thanks,
 
Fletch

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Re: PCI Compliance - Encryption of all non-console administrative access.

2007-08-01 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:40:14 -0500, Hal Merritt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...snipped...
 But we need secure 'green screen' TN3270 TSO

The TN3270 server supports SSL or TLS, and so do a number of TN3270 clients.
 SSL/TLS will provide your secure connection.

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Re: IBMLink Using PC/3270

2007-08-01 Thread Edward Jaffe

George Rodriguez wrote:

Snip refer to port 23 in the recent discussions.

That's the port I'm using, but it's not working...I'm getting a comm
error 657...Any ideas?
  


Probably a firewall issue of some sort. It's working just fine for me: 
ibmlink.advantis.com port 23.


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Re: Web access to mainframe datasets

2007-08-01 Thread Timothy Sipples
John McKown writes:
No. IMWEBSRV is not Apache. There is a separate Apache port
for z/OS. I don't know if it is distributed with the latest z/OS
releases. IMWEBSRV came with z/OS 1.6, but Apache did not.
The last that I know of (may be out of date) is that Apache
must be downloaded and installed separately from z/OS.

What everybody is receiving with z/OS is called the IBM HTTP Server for
z/OS, and it is Version 5.3. I think it even shipped with OS/390. So, if
you're looking for a lowest common denominator capability, i.e. something
everybody should already have, the HTTP Server V5.3 would qualify.  This
software is not derived from Apache code.

There are some (earlier) ports of the Apache HTTP Server, available for
download from the Internet as noted previously. IBM doesn't support them,
but they're fun.

IBM is now shipping the IBM HTTP Server for WebSphere Application Server
for z/OS, which you will also see referred to as powered by Apache
(because it is). The current version is 6.1.  This HTTP server is orderable
as a PTF for WebSphere Application Server V6.1 for z/OS.  Like the rest of
WAS, it is fully supported commercial software from IBM.  The documentation
is available online here (watch the wrap):

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wasinfo/v6r1/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.websphere.ihs.doc/info/welcome_ihs.html

With all that background out of the way, here's a reply primarily aimed at
the original poster. In addition to the suggestions offered previously,
there are a couple more ideas to consider.

1.  WebSphere Application Server for z/OS is getting increasingly common.
CICS Transaction Server runs certain EJBs, just like WebSphere.  So one
idea you might consider is to ship an EJB package that works under both WAS
and CICS TS.

2.  Another approach is to write Java and package it to work with both the
IBM HTTP Server V5.3 for z/OS (as a CGI program) and WebSphere Application
Server for z/OS.  The packaging might be a bit different, but the
underlying logic should be close to 100% identical.  That's another way to
offer deployment choices without forking your code.

3.  I don't think it's any secret that IBM itself has something called the
Integrated Solutions Console (ISC).  That's the pretty administrative Web
interface you see embedded in products like WebSphere Application Server
for z/OS.  You might ask through the appropriate IBM developer channels to
see if that's a hunk of code you can package with whatever you're shipping
and if it would be a good choice in your case.

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Re: COBOL Group moves

2007-08-01 Thread J R
 I'm always suspicious when somebody from a service provider asks a basic 
 question on IBM-Main. 
 
It could be worse.  We had a guy on here last week asking how to convert a 
string of hex characters into a binary number.  He was given the *two* 
instructions that he needed.  He then had to get back to us to find out how to 
extend his program's addressability beyond 4KiB.  We also had to tell him which 
manual to look in to find the answers.  
 
He then posted this masterpiece on his *copyrighted* hints and tips website.  
:-)  
 
 



 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 12:19:50 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 
 COBOL Group moves To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU  I am thinking that this might 
 be better put to the Cobol language group on Google?  I'm always suspicious 
 when somebody from a service provider asks a basic question on IBM-Main. The 
 OP is from INFO-SYS, which among other services, provides companies with 
 COBOL programming.  - Too busy driving to stop for gas!
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Re: web IBMLINK down again -SEV1 32656350

2007-08-01 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 8/1/2007 11:43:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Spoke  with IBM this morning regarding the nature of the problem.  It  is
directly related to the sign-on process...which is NOT on a  z/System.
The data continues to reside there but not the sign-on  process.  There
is a sign-on redundancy project in the wings  apparently.




So it's a networking problem? Maybe they ought to outsource to CISCO?
 
Still vote for calling it in, numbers do matter when they're tallying up  the 
bonus checks. 



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Re: web IBMLINK down again -SEV1 32656350

2007-08-01 Thread Smith, Sean M
snip

If the web access is not on a z system, should it be a candidate for a
Reboot Hill story.  

/snip

Spoke with IBM this morning regarding the nature of the problem.  It is
directly related to the sign-on process...which is NOT on a z/System.
The data continues to reside there but not the sign-on process.  There
is a sign-on redundancy project in the wings apparently.

Regarding escalation of the problem and awareness, IBM is being screamed
at by a lot of big customers already so any time spent telling them
again is probably wasting your time and theirs.

Sean

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Re: SOC4 in DFSORT with DB2

2007-08-01 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
That would be the Data class not the Storage class.



From: David Betten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 8/1/2007 12:16 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SOC4 in DFSORT with DB2



I don't want to circumvent the PMR process but thought I'd offer some a
thought based on this information.  Double check the storage class that the
sortwork datasets are being assigned to and make sure the default unit
count is 1.  Sortwork datasets cannot be multi-volume so there's no point
in having a default greater than one.  If the default volume count is
something high, like 59, then you're probably going to exceed the TIOT
threshold.





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Re: Question about the listserv : Mail-syntax

2007-08-01 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Maarten Slegtenhorst wrote:
 The RFC 2646 ( aug 1999 ) is made obsolete by RFC 3676 ( feb 2004 )
;)
 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3676.txt
   

Is there any chance of getting this in clear English? Easy to follow
examples, etc? 


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Re: Question about the listserv : Mail-syntax

2007-08-01 Thread Bill Dodge
 IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote:

 Maarten Slegtenhorst wrote:
  The RFC 2646 ( aug 1999 ) is made obsolete by RFC 3676 ( feb 2004 )
 ;)
  http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3676.txt

 
 Is there any chance of getting this in clear English? Easy to follow
 examples, etc? 
 
 

Then it wouldn't be an RFC ;-)
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Re: IBMLink Using PC/3270

2007-08-01 Thread George Rodriguez
Snip  Ed Finnell wrote:
 Big honkin' IBMLINK Clist
  
 Proc 0
 telnet ibmlink.advantis.com
 end


Using the CLIST I was able to get in...But what do I use for ACCOUNT? I
have an IBMLink ID and a password, but I don't know the ACCOUNT. Can
anyone help?

Thanks,
George Rodriguez
(561) 357-7652
School District of Palm Beach County
3348 Forrest Hill Blvd.
Room B301
West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869
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Re: IBMLink Using PC/3270

2007-08-01 Thread Wayne Driscoll
A couple of problems with 3270 IBMLink access. 
1 - Most IBMLink users today have IBM ID's with IBMLink access, which as
George notes, only uses a userid and a password.  Not the account userid
password which is required for 3270 IBMLINK.  And for many customers
with 3270 and WEB access the userid and password are different for 3270
access then web access.
2 - Many companies have a limited number of IBMLink ID's and share the
password among the group, as they really don't use it enough to pay for
multiple accounts.  With WEB access (if/when it works), multiple users
can be logged on, with the 3270 access, there is a one user at a time
limitation.  Ok, I know, from a security perspective, this is a bad
idea, but I don't make the decisions (or sign the checks).

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JME Software LLC
NOTE:  All opinions are strictly my own.



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Behalf Of George Rodriguez
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 12:16 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IBMLink Using PC/3270

Snip  Ed Finnell wrote:
 Big honkin' IBMLINK Clist
  
 Proc 0
 telnet ibmlink.advantis.com
 end


Using the CLIST I was able to get in...But what do I use for ACCOUNT? I
have an IBMLink ID and a password, but I don't know the ACCOUNT. Can
anyone help?

Thanks,
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Re: Question about the listserv : Mail-syntax

2007-08-01 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 8/1/2007 11:50:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Is there  any chance of getting this in clear English? Easy to follow
examples, etc?  




Is your google broken? In about 10 secs. found this...
 
_http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3676_ (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3676) 



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Re: Question about the listserv : Mail-syntax

2007-08-01 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Ed Finnell said:
Is your google broken? In about 10 secs. found this...
 
_http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3676_
(http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3676) 


Maybe I'm just getting lazy in my old age, but I saw that, and like I
said is there a chance of getting it in clear English with simple
examples. RFCs are NOT easy to understand and tend to be overly long.

A simple

Jon Veilleux said
 This is the way you quote someone

Example would be much better.



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Re: SOC4 in DFSORT with DB2

2007-08-01 Thread Ed Gould

On Aug 1, 2007, at 11:16 AM, David Betten wrote:

I don't want to circumvent the PMR process but thought I'd offer  
some a
thought based on this information.  Double check the storage class  
that the

sortwork datasets are being assigned to and make sure the default unit
count is 1.  Sortwork datasets cannot be multi-volume so there's no  
point

in having a default greater than one.  If the default volume count is
something high, like 59, then you're probably going to exceed the TIOT
threshold.



-SNIP---

I guess I understand the s0c4 then. But it still sort of begs the  
question of sequence of the sort libraries.


Ed

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Re: IBM's Project Big Green Spurs Global Shift to Linux on Mainframe

2007-08-01 Thread Kelman, Tom
Interesting, there is also an article about it in PC World.  

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135331-c,servers/article.html

Of course they need to do their research better since it's zIIP and
zAAP, not Zip and Zap.

Tom Kelman
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Subject: IBM's Project Big Green Spurs Global Shift to Linux on
Mainframe

Google news actually picked up on this one:

Plan to Shrink 3,900 Computer Servers to About 30 Mainframes Targets 80 
Percent Energy Reduction Over Five Years

August 01, 2007: 08:45 AM EST


In one of the most significant transformations of its worldwide data
centers 
in a generation, IBM (NYSE: IBM) today announced that it will
consolidate 
about 3,900 computer servers onto about 30 System z mainframes running
the 
Linux operating system. The company anticipates that the new server 
environment will consume approximately 80 percent less energy than the 
current set up and expects significant savings over five years in
energy, 
software and system support costs.

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/marketwire/0284973.htm

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Quebec moves Orcale to z/VM

2007-08-01 Thread Dave Jones
An article to counterbalance all of those we're moving off of the
mainframe stories we see posted here.

http://blog.coleo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/share_session_9230.pdf

It's a  large working document.   For the Business people, go
to page 24 and on.

z/VM strikes again:-)

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Re: IBMLink Using PC/3270

2007-08-01 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 8/1/2007 12:25:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

A couple  of problems with 3270 IBMLink access. 
1 - Most IBMLink users today have  IBM ID's with IBMLink access, which as
George notes, only uses a userid and  a password.  Not the account userid
password which is required for  3270 IBMLINK.  And for many customers
with 3270 and WEB access the  userid and password are different for 3270
access then web  access.




The old legacy way was the userids were based off of the ACCT. So for
UOFA we'd have UOFA001 thru UOFA016 or however many the contract  stipulated.
 
As the conversion went from IBMLINK(3270) to webbased IBMLINK2000 there was  
a synch CLIST and to get everything converted over and use same userid and  
password for either system. I guess if you never had a 3270 ID you'll have to 
go 
 thru service to get that established. 



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IBMLINK Down again

2007-08-01 Thread Mark Jacobs

Wow. It looks like the parrot isn't dead after all.

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