Re: What is 'MVS-recognized' disablement?

2007-11-24 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
 
 
In a message dated 11/23/2007 4:42:06 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Peter  Hunkeler said
 Interrupt Status: An FRR gets control and is  entered disabled if,
 at the time of the error, the mainline is  disabled. Any FRR entered
 disabled must remain disabled.
  
 This is correct if you legally got disabled. If you got  disabled
 using the nonsupported way using STNSM, your FRR will be  entered
 enabled. At least this is how I understand Peter's  statement.

Yes, I got that. The point is that the fine manual makes no  such
distinction. 


The various manuals describe disabled aspects of several functions,  such as 
using FRRs and acquiring storage in certain subpools.  There are at  least 
three different ways to test for disablement:  (1) holding any lock,  (2) 
having 
any super bit turned on, and (3) having I/O and external interrupts  masked 
off in the current PSW.  The problem, in my opinion, or perhaps  another 
problem, is that not all services allow for all 3 possible ways of being  
disabled at 
every point in their instruction paths where a test for being  disabled must 
be made.
 
Bill  Fairchild
Franklin, TN



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Re: Archives for IBM-MAIN

2007-11-24 Thread R.S.

IMHO last 5 years would be fine.
I would strongly suggest to fill default value 'since date'.
My $0.02

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Re: Archives for IBM-MAIN

2007-11-24 Thread Pinnacle
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From: Darren Evans-Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 2:22 PM
Subject: Archives for IBM-MAIN



Question for the list

I currently have the IBM-MAIN-ARCHIVES list containing archives
from 1986-2000. Current archives for IBM-MAIN are from 2001 forward.
What this means is searches take longer unless you restrict your
searches to a specific time frame. I would like to move more archives
from IBM-MAIN to IBM-MAIN-ARCHIVES. What years do you guys want to
remain on IBM-MAIN?   I only have a couple days to make this change.



D,

I work with a number of clients running older hardware and software, so I'd 
like to see a minimum of 5 years on the current system.  If possible, I'd 
like to see everything stay where it is, and as others have suggested, prime 
the starting date in the Since field.


Regards,
Tom Conley 


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Re: HFS Vs ZFs

2007-11-24 Thread Mike Hill
Could someone please explain what has been going on with zFS 
recommendations etc.
I have also seen recommendations that we should all move from HFS to zFS 
file systems. Now, we are told that we should not use zFS Milti-File Mode 
(MFM) aggregates in shared systems.
If I was running a non-shared environment, I would avoid migrating to zFS 
Multi-File Mode aggregates in case I may later move to a shared environment 
in the future. That seems a reasonable stand to take and would mean that 
zFS MFM Aggregates would be little used.
If we are all therefore to use compatibility mode aggregates, do we still get 
the documented benefits of zFS? Namely, read only clones, performance 
benefits and increase integrity when using Compatibility Mode aggregates?

The recommendation telling us not to use zFS MFM aggregates in a shared 
HFS environment were not there in the first announcements of zFS, so what 
happened to cause such a drastic U-turn? 

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Re: significant fixes to my product (MFNetDisk).

2007-11-24 Thread Shai Hess
Much better PC Server performance.

Fix error of the handle of CTL_C to the PC Server.

All installation, Documentation and PowerPoint files can now be downloaded as 
a ZIP file and not RAR file.

Still, everyone can use my product and my PowerPoint presentation to solve 
customers needs. It is free to use and you can present it as it or if you like 
you can change it (better the changes will be for the product and not 
againest it...). 

And again, It is also OK with me that you make money from the presentation 
of my product. I mean it.

Some people ask me what if they help me to sell the product? 
OK, right now I am happy with the idea to let the people use, enjoy and 
maybe love my product. Maybe one day I or a big company (IBM, EMC, HDS) 
will change my mind.

Thanks,
Shai

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Re: HFS Vs ZFs

2007-11-24 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Mike,
The compatibility mode of zFS is soon to be the only mode of zFS.  The
multi-file mode aggregates are being phased out in all environments, not
just in a SYSPLEX.  The costs associated with maintaining multiple file
systems in a single zFS container were found to outweigh the benefits in
all environments, even more so in a SYSPLEX.  However, even in single
file mode (compatibility was a bad name choice in my opinion), you do
get all the performance and other benefits of zFS over HFS.  Note that
HFS has been functionally stabilized so no new enhancements will be
made to it, and zFS is the replacement, so migrating from HFS to zFS
should a project in the pipeline.

Wayne Driscoll
Product Developer
JME Software LLC
NOTE:  All opinions are strictly my own.



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Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 1:44 PM
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Subject: Re: HFS Vs ZFs

Could someone please explain what has been going on with zFS 
recommendations etc.
I have also seen recommendations that we should all move from HFS to zFS

file systems. Now, we are told that we should not use zFS Milti-File
Mode 
(MFM) aggregates in shared systems.
If I was running a non-shared environment, I would avoid migrating to
zFS 
Multi-File Mode aggregates in case I may later move to a shared
environment 
in the future. That seems a reasonable stand to take and would mean that

zFS MFM Aggregates would be little used.
If we are all therefore to use compatibility mode aggregates, do we
still get 
the documented benefits of zFS? Namely, read only clones, performance 
benefits and increase integrity when using Compatibility Mode
aggregates?

The recommendation telling us not to use zFS MFM aggregates in a shared 
HFS environment were not there in the first announcements of zFS, so
what 
happened to cause such a drastic U-turn? 

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Re: Installing/Updating SVC

2007-11-24 Thread Peter Relson
SETPROG LPA,ADD,MODNAME=,DSN=USER.LPALIB,SVCNUMDEC=nnn

This is intentionally not documented. It is not supported at this time.
Maybe someday... It never hurts to submit requirements (especially from
user groups).

It is never a good idea to experiment to discover what command might or
might not be accepted.

You of course are welcome to take whatever risk(s) you want with your own
system, but please do not come calling for help afterwards.

A good point was made that you cannot, with this option, identify the type
of SVC or its entry requirements (APF, lock, for example).

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: Archives for IBM-MAIN

2007-11-24 Thread Arthur T.
On 23 Nov 2007 11:22:45 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main 
(Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Evans-Young) wrote:


I currently have the IBM-MAIN-ARCHIVES list containing 
archives
from 1986-2000. Current archives for IBM-MAIN are from 
2001 forward.
What this means is searches take longer unless you 
restrict your
searches to a specific time frame. I would like to move 
more archives
from IBM-MAIN to IBM-MAIN-ARCHIVES. What years do you guys 
want to

remain on IBM-MAIN?


 I don't search the archives that way.  I'd normally 
search via Google Groups.  So you can take this as totally 
immaterial or as valid commentary from a disinterested 
party.


 If it's possible to program the default Since date to 
current date minus n years, that could obviate the whole 
question, except what 'n' should be.  The comments I'm 
seeing seem to show that 'n' should be either 2 or 3.


 If that programming is not possible, maybe the 
cut-off should be GA date of 1.6?


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