Re: SHARE no handouts(?)
However, one aspect bothers me greatly: That is a new emphasis on 'being green.' And how does SHARE propose to save the planet? A: By encouraging speakers to NOT pass out the customary handouts which show the slides to be presented during their talk. The assumption is that attendees can later download the presentation slides from the web if they so desire. Going Green is a euphemism for we want to save money by not providing copiers at the conference. SHARE does not discourage speakers from distributing paper handouts; it just doesn't want to incur the cost of printing them. IMO, going green was a convenient spin to justify the policy change. Share should get smart like Microsoft,they handed out Cdroms and free software and free handoutshumConsidering I am a mainframe Software developer I appreciated it. SHARE meets twice a year, which makes collecting and organizing the presentations onto a CD in time for the conference just about impossible. Material about late breaking sessions such as the z10 announcement cannot be disclosed to SHARE in advance of the announcement. The problem with that is few laptops will last an entire day without being re-charged A friend of mine brought a battery brick (my term) that was made by Black Decker. He plugged his laptop into the brick and it was good for about nine hours. Getting through US customs as a foreign national is just too much of a PITA. Going through US security as a US citizen is no fun either, nor is foreign travel for US citizens. It's unfortunate. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The System z10s Are Shipping
Where are you and what are you doing now and where is it shiiping too or are you just getting excited because IBM is shipping something again to somewhere ? There was a guy like you doing the same in the 40's called Kilroy... so I have to assume you are shipping to IRAQ. Note: The papers says, only INDIA and CHINA is still buying. The rest of us is down sizing. Based on what I heard at SHARE, and based on the people to whom I spoke, these comments are ludicrous. The new machines are being received very well. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SHARE no handouts(?)
In a message dated 3/1/2008 6:51:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Going Green is a euphemism for we want to save money by not providing copiers at the conference. SHARE does not discourage speakers from distributing paper handouts; it just doesn't want to incur the cost of printing them. IMO, going green was a convenient spin to justify the policy change. So the green does not mean eco-friendly but rather refers to the color of the FERNs [1] being saved? What about providing copiers that are not free? You copy your paper and pay for how many pages you copied. SHARE could still be non-profit if they computed the charge per page properly. Or instead of a copier there could be a page in the final agenda (is that still being printed? how much paper is wasted on that thing?) with directions to all the retail stores nearby which have pay-per-use copiers (Kinko's, e.g.). Bill Fairchild Rocket Software [1] FEderal Reserve Notes **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SHARE no handouts(?)
You copy your paper and pay for how many pages you copied. There was a business center in the convention center where anyone could have copies made for a fee. There is no reason to provide a competing service. It's also no secret that places such as Kinko's provide copying services. SHARE could still be non-profit About 15 years ago the IRS decided that SHARE (and GUIDE) are not non-profits. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SHARE no handouts(?)
(several guys) wrote: You copy your paper and pay for how many pages you copied. There was a business center in the convention center where anyone could have copies made for a fee. There is no reason to provide a competing service. It's also no secret that places such as Kinko's provide copying services. IMHO it is almost as interesting and on-topic as weather report for SHARE conference. g All details of copiers, copying services and SHARE non-profit status should be discussed very thoroughly. Every detail should be talked over, including closely related topics like baseball league, 29th of Feb, taxes, offshore, etc. I couldn't resist -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2008 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 zote i zosta w caoci wpacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SHARE no handouts(?)
COMMON, the IBM midrange (System i, iSeries and AS/400) user group (www.common.org), which is very similar to SHARE, began a similar exercise about 5 years ago. They started distributing hand-outs on CDs, instead of paper copies, to reduce costs and save a tree. Many people complained loudly and often, and the COMMON board of directors ended up backing away from this decision to go paperless. And not all of the speakers went along with the program at first. Some speakers still insist on hardcopy only. COMMON still provides downloadable hand-outs on their web site, but only to members who attended that particular conference. And, they still provide the option for speakers to bring in their own printed hand-outs. COMMON no longer produces CDs. And speakers can still indicate if they want hard-copy hand-outs or not, when they upload their handouts to the web site prior to the conference. COMMON has greatly scaled back the size and cost of the on-site copy center at each conference. COMMON also provides a nice pad of paper and pencils and pens in each attendee's bag, so that you can take notes for sessions that do not have hand-outs. I think the last time I attended COMMON, about half of the sessions had paper hand-outs; the rest were on-line. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPAM: Re: SHARE no handouts(?)
-snip-- What I would love to see happen is that the handouts are on flash drives or they could load the handouts on my flash drive so I can take notes directly on my computer. unsnip- Or on CD-ROM or DVD. Then there would be two CD's: handouts and proceedings. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SHARE no handouts(?)
Warner Mach wrote: SHARE is now wrapping up and was, as usual, highly worthwhile ... However, one aspect bothers me greatly: That is a new emphasis on 'being green.' And how does SHARE propose to save the planet? A: By encouraging speakers to NOT pass out the customary handouts which show the slides to be presented during their talk. The assumption is that attendees can later download the presentation slides from the web if they so desire. . One speaker actually suggested that the attendee might take notes on a pad of some sort (remember college?) and then download the presentation and transfer the notes to the presentation; rather than write the notes directly on the presentation handout, as was customary. . It is interesting how companies and organizations are eager to show their alignment with 'green-ness' when being green corresponds with less expense and trouble for those in charge. . To my mind there are a world of good reasons why this new policy is a bad one (fill in the blanks). I asked at the headquarters desk where to send comments on the new policy. I was told: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. . If you are a member of SHARE and have an opinion on this issue you might drop them a line. Let's discourage this trend before a large number of speakers adopt it. Like many so-called green initiatives, this is nothing more than a popular delusion based on a gross misunderstanding of the facts. SHARE simply stated that, in order to reduce costs, it would no longer provide on-site copy services during the conference. Only a very tiny subset of speakers, those that were accustomed to printing their handouts on SHARE's dime, were affected. For them, two obvious alternatives were suggested: a) present without handouts or b) create -- at your own expense --abbreviated handouts in outline form. For everyone else, SHARE was business as usual. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SHARE no handouts(?)
I too would like to weigh in on this subject. I would much prefer having the handout to look at and take notes on while I'm in a session. I haven't been to Share for 3 or 4 years now. Mostly because the last 2 years at PH they were closing the datacenter, and didn't want to pay for any education. I can't quite see paying several thousand dollars when I'm unemployed to go to Share, as you never know how soon a job will come around. Before I got my job at Aviva, I went almost 9 months. Boy - does that eat in to savings. Anyway, back to the topic. One suggestion I have is that all handouts are printed on both sides. Depending on the level of detail, 2 or 4 frames or more per page greatly cuts down on the amount of paper also. I know some of the handouts, like the ones from Marne Wall are especially appreciated. She puts much of the text and other pertinent info on each slide. That is very valuable. Thanks Marne, and keep it up! Regarding laptops at Share, the last year I went I took my laptop along. I think I took it to sessions 2 or 3 of the 5 days. I found it to be a real pain. Mine is fairly heavy - especially when you have it at the expo. I saved money for PH by rooming 3 or 4 blocks away, making it hard to just put it in to my room. Also, then you have to look for a plug in, which isn't always very easy to find. I do remember one session on RMF reports, where I logged on to PH's computer, and looked at some of my own reports as the presenter was talking about them. That was cool, and helpful. Taking notes on paper is fine, but it works a lot better taking them on the handout I sincerely hope that most presenters will continue to provide handouts. I think for the money, they provide a huge value. I wonder which is cheaper - printing them on your home office copier and shipping them, or printing them at Kinkos. I'm sure the hotel or convention center copy prices are ridiculous! -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer Aviva USA Des Moines, Iowa 515-645-5153 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to find uncatalog datasets.
Are you not yet using SMS-managed volumes and forcing all non-system DASD datasets to be SMS-managed? If not, you should be. SMS datasets are forced to be cataloged, even if the end-user out of ignorance doesn't specify it properly in his JCL, and if some rare system failure were to allow one to be uncataloged, running periodic DIAGNOSEs against catalogs and VVDSs will catch that as an inconsistency. Pre-SMS we used to worry about this kind of thing and run daily/weekly cleanup of uncataloged datasets, but the problem completely disappeared over a decade ago when we converted all application DASD datasets to SMS and enforced this restriction via naming conventions, ACS routines, and RACF. I haven't seen an uncataloged DASD dataset for years, except for ones Technical Support deliberately creates as part of system cloning on non-SMS volumes. Uncataloged datasets introduce a myriad of problems in dataset management, tracking, and cleanup, not to mention that 99.9% of the time when an end-user or application programmer creates one, they can't find it, just think it was deleted somehow, and try to create another copy somewhere else. Uncataloged DASD datasets should be disallowed by installation standards and enforcement mechanisms like SMS RACF should be in place to prevent accidental creation in the first place. Sivakumar, Manikandan wrote: Folks, I would like to know information how to list the uncatalog datasets. I would like to know whether we can use IDCAMS utility or any other utility. Thanks. Regards, Mani ... -- Joel C. Ewing, Fort Smith, AR[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9
Tommy Tsui wrote: ..I think z9 is announced around 3 years...As I remember, IBM never try to announced a new model of mainframe computer just three years later... Using http://www.tech-news.com/ as a reference, the history of IBM CMOS mainframe processor hardware generations is as follows: Processor 1stAvail 9672-G13Q 94 9672-G23Q 95 9672-G33Q 96 9672-G42Q 97 9672-G53Q 98 9672-G62Q 99 z900 1Q 00 z800 1Q 02 z900-GA2 2Q 02 z990 2Q 03 z9-109 4Q 03 z890 2Q 04 z9EC 3Q 05 z9BC 2Q 06 z101Q 08 -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM Preview of z/OS V1.10
From the Share session what's new in DFSMS under z/OS V1.9 Statement of Direction VSAM KEYRANGE Attribute • Support for the VSAM KEYRANGE attribute will not be withdrawn as previously stated • No supported release of z/OS allows you to define new VSAM data sets with the KEYRANGE attribute • On modern storage devices, KEYRANGE is generally detrimental to performance. For this reason, IBM recommends that you minimize or eliminate your use of KEYRANGE. • Striped data sets are expected to provide better performance than KEYRANGE, and can be viewed as a good replacement for KEYRANGE data sets. • To detect the KEYRANGE attribute on existing data sets, refer to INFO APAR II13894. • Use the DFSMShsm ARCTOOLS (FINDKRDS) to detect this attribute for data sets migrated with DFSMShsm. Details on how to use this tool are in the DFSMShsm Implementation and Customization Guide (SC35-0418). and VSAM IMBED and REPLICATE Attributes • In a future release of z/OS, when DFSMShsm or DFSMSdss recalls or restores a VSAM data set with either IMBED or REPLICATE attribute or both, the attributes will be removed. • Once recalled or restored, the data sets would no longer have these attributes. Until this enhancement is made available, support for IMBED and REPLICATE will not be withdrawn. • No supported release of z/OS allows you to define new VSAM data sets or catalogs with the IMBED or REPLICATE attributes • Using them for existing data sets can waste DASD space and can often degrade performance, and for this reason, IBM recommends that you stop using these attributes. • For information about how to detect IMBED and REPLICATE attributes on existing data sets and catalogs, refer to INFO APAR II13894. • Tivolitm Advanced Catalog Management for z/OS also has the ability to remove these attributes Regards, Chris Taylor -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: new Feb2008 zPOP: Execute Relative Long
Tom Schmidt wrote: See SA22-7832-06 for the EXRL instruction. (I'm sure Ed's been aware for several months now, but the rest of us may be happy now.) Give 'em an inch and they'll take a yard! People are already clamoring for additional forms of EXRL that can OR the mask with other than byte one of the target instruction! It never ends! :-) -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SHARE no handouts(?)
Although it is true that SHARE is trying to cut down on copying costs, which certainly helps green initiatives, I don't believe it is the intent of presenters to stop bring handouts with them. I, and many others, still make a certain amount of copies, and makes sure our presentations are uploaded prior to the start of the conference. The uploading has no cost to presenters, but the making of copies can be quite costly. Some late breaking types of material will still not make it (example: all of the z10 info could not be published ahead of time) in time for the conference opening. Hopefully, it will be uploaded during the week, or shortly after. There is also the Proceedings DVD that can be purchased that contains all of the materials. And if all else fails, a kind eMail to the presenter requesting the presentation, usually gets a good response. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 SYSN 08:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SHARE no handouts(?) Warner Mach wrote: SHARE is now wrapping up and was, as usual, highly worthwhile ... However, one aspect bothers me greatly: That is a new emphasis on 'being green.' And how does SHARE propose to save the planet? A: By encouraging speakers to NOT pass out the customary handouts which show the slides to be presented during their talk. The assumption is that attendees can later download the presentation slides from the web if they so desire. . One speaker actually suggested that the attendee might take notes on a pad of some sort (remember college?) and then download the presentation and transfer the notes to the presentation; rather than write the notes directly on the presentation handout, as was customary. . It is interesting how companies and organizations are eager to show their alignment with 'green-ness' when being green corresponds with less expense and trouble for those in charge. . To my mind there are a world of good reasons why this new policy is a bad one (fill in the blanks). I asked at the headquarters desk where to send comments on the new policy. I was told: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. . If you are a member of SHARE and have an opinion on this issue you might drop them a line. Let's discourage this trend before a large number of speakers adopt it. Like many so-called green initiatives, this is nothing more than a popular delusion based on a gross misunderstanding of the facts. SHARE simply stated that, in order to reduce costs, it would no longer provide on-site copy services during the conference. Only a very tiny subset of speakers, those that were accustomed to printing their handouts on SHARE's dime, were affected. For them, two obvious alternatives were suggested: a) present without handouts or b) create -- at your own expense --abbreviated handouts in outline form. For everyone else, SHARE was business as usual. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z10 LSPR
William Bishop wrote: Since when are the MSU ratings dependent upon which release of zOS you are running? I believe the LSPR workloads for z10 are executed with the HiperDispatch feature fully enabled. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
z10 and crypto HW
I'm trying to figure out: Are there any crypto-related chages in z10 ? AFAIK the same crypto cards (CEX2C) are used in z9 and z10. I would like to have HW support for AES algorithms. Did I miss something ? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2008 r. kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 złote i został w całości wpłacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SHARE no handouts(?)
SHARE in Costa Rico anytime soon ? :) Getting through US customs as a foreign national is just too much of a PITA. Going through US security as a US citizen is no fun either, nor is foreign travel for US citizens. It's unfortunate. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SHARE no handouts(?)
By the way, Eric, you can reduce your registration costs but doing a presentation at SHARE. Each day you do one, you get to attend that day for free. Granted, it doesn't help with travel and hotel, but it is something. Marna Walle's sessions are always good. I usually have her last migration sessions sitting on my shelf. But she is one of the folks who puts here sessions on the website. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 SYSN 09:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SHARE no handouts(?) I too would like to weigh in on this subject. I would much prefer having the handout to look at and take notes on while I'm in a session. I haven't been to Share for 3 or 4 years now. Mostly because the last 2 years at PH they were closing the datacenter, and didn't want to pay for any education. I can't quite see paying several thousand dollars when I'm unemployed to go to Share, as you never know how soon a job will come around. Before I got my job at Aviva, I went almost 9 months. Boy - does that eat in to savings. Anyway, back to the topic. One suggestion I have is that all handouts are printed on both sides. Depending on the level of detail, 2 or 4 frames or more per page greatly cuts down on the amount of paper also. I know some of the handouts, like the ones from Marne Wall are especially appreciated. She puts much of the text and other pertinent info on each slide. That is very valuable. Thanks Marne, and keep it up! Regarding laptops at Share, the last year I went I took my laptop along. I think I took it to sessions 2 or 3 of the 5 days. I found it to be a real pain. Mine is fairly heavy - especially when you have it at the expo. I saved money for PH by rooming 3 or 4 blocks away, making it hard to just put it in to my room. Also, then you have to look for a plug in, which isn't always very easy to find. I do remember one session on RMF reports, where I logged on to PH's computer, and looked at some of my own reports as the presenter was talking about them. That was cool, and helpful. Taking notes on paper is fine, but it works a lot better taking them on the handout I sincerely hope that most presenters will continue to provide handouts. I think for the money, they provide a huge value. I wonder which is cheaper - printing them on your home office copier and shipping them, or printing them at Kinkos. I'm sure the hotel or convention center copy prices are ridiculous! -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer Aviva USA Des Moines, Iowa 515-645-5153 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z10 and crypto HW
R.S. wrote: I'm trying to figure out: Are there any crypto-related chages in z10 ? AFAIK the same crypto cards (CEX2C) are used in z9 and z10. I would like to have HW support for AES algorithms. Did I miss something ? If you check the announcement letter thoroughly, you will see that CPACF for z10 will support AES-192 and AES-256 (in addition to AES-128 which is already supported with z9). Also, the hash algorithms SHA-256, SHA-384 and SHA-512 are supported. CEX2C will support RSA private/public keys up to 4096 bits. -- Ulrich Boche SVA GmbH, Germany IBM Premier Business Partner -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9
z9-109 4Q 03 is wrong, z9-109 was announced in 2Q 05 and later
renamed to z9 EC in 2Q 06 with z9 BC announcement
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Edward Jaffe
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Tommy Tsui wrote:
..I
think z9 is announced around 3 years...As I remember, IBM never try to
announced a new model of mainframe computer just three years later...
Using http://www.tech-news.com/ as a reference, the history of IBM CMOS
mainframe processor hardware generations is as follows:
Processor 1stAvail
9672-G13Q 94
9672-G23Q 95
9672-G33Q 96
9672-G42Q 97
9672-G53Q 98
9672-G62Q 99
z900 1Q 00
z800 1Q 02
z900-GA2 2Q 02
z990 2Q 03
z9-109 4Q 03
z890 2Q 04
z9EC 3Q 05
z9BC 2Q 06
z101Q 08
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Re: z10 and crypto HW
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 3:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: z10 and crypto HW I'm trying to figure out: Are there any crypto-related chages in z10 ? AFAIK the same crypto cards (CEX2C) are used in z9 and z10. I would like to have HW support for AES algorithms. Did I miss something ? There are crypto instructions that support AES already that are part of base z9, referred to by IBM as CPACF instructions: KM, KMC, KIMD, KLMD, KMAC. They do require feature activation, but I understand that it is a no-charge feature. There is an IBM sample program showing how to use them here (google CPACFZ9S): http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/PRS2669 The crypto cards also require use of the ICSF software to manage encrypted keys along with the enhanced crypto capabilities. The base crypto instructions do not support encrypted keys, you must use clear (not-encrypted) keys in the programs that execute the instructions. HTH Peter This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9
Gibney, Dave wrote: The Multiprise 2003's were also CMOS. We replaced a 3090-400J with one sometime after 96. Yup. As well as MP3000s, P/390s, etc. I didn't mention them because I don't consider them direct ancestors of the current machines. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z10 and crypto HW
Ulrich Boche wrote: R.S. wrote: I'm trying to figure out: Are there any crypto-related chages in z10 ? AFAIK the same crypto cards (CEX2C) are used in z9 and z10. I would like to have HW support for AES algorithms. Did I miss something ? If you check the announcement letter thoroughly, you will see that CPACF for z10 will support AES-192 and AES-256 (in addition to AES-128 which is already supported with z9). Also, the hash algorithms SHA-256, SHA-384 and SHA-512 are supported. CEX2C will support RSA private/public keys up to 4096 bits. Ulrich, thank you for quick response. I checked the announcement (I don't know whether it was thoroughly), however ...I already have AES-256, as well as RSA-4096. Going into details now I realize, that I don't have AES-192, and HW-support for RSA-4096 (but the service is present). I haven't checked SHA's. Regards/Mit freundlichen Grüssen -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2008 r. kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 złote i został w całości wpłacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9
The Multiprise 2003's were also CMOS. We replaced a 3090-400J with one sometime after 96. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9 Tommy Tsui wrote: ..I think z9 is announced around 3 years...As I remember, IBM never try to announced a new model of mainframe computer just three years later... Using http://www.tech-news.com/ as a reference, the history of IBM CMOS mainframe processor hardware generations is as follows: Processor 1stAvail 9672-G13Q 94 9672-G23Q 95 9672-G33Q 96 9672-G42Q 97 9672-G53Q 98 9672-G62Q 99 z900 1Q 00 z800 1Q 02 z900-GA2 2Q 02 z990 2Q 03 z9-109 4Q 03 z890 2Q 04 z9EC 3Q 05 z9BC 2Q 06 z101Q 08 -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: new Feb2008 zPOP: Execute Relative Long
On 1 Mar 2008 10:59:02 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Tom Schmidt wrote: See SA22-7832-06 for the EXRL instruction. (I'm sure Ed's been aware for several months now, but the rest of us may be happy now.) Give 'em an inch and they'll take a yard! People are already clamoring for additional forms of EXRL that can OR the mask with other than byte one of the target instruction! It never ends! :-) As one of those people who has wanted an execute that would allow us to expand each nibble in the pack/unpack/decimal instructions to at least a byte, I am guilty. This would allow for large fixed decimal fields. Floating point decimal isn't always the best idea. Clark Morris -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SHARE no handouts(?)
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 11:15 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- Only a very tiny subset of speakers, those that were accustomed to printing their handouts on SHARE's dime, were affected. For them, two obvious alternatives were suggested: a) present without handouts or b) create -- at your own expense --abbreviated handouts in outline form. You got it almost right. Since you didn't get it exactly right, you've smeared people such as myself that never expected SHARE to pay for printing handouts. Few, if any, of the speakers work in an office where an unlimited number of copies is considered acceptable. For people like me that work at home, things like Kinkos is the only alternative. Given the chance to avoid paying ~$250.00 for printing, I jumped on it. (Even doubled-sided 2-up copies add up when you're giving 7 hours or so of sessions. Anything like 4-up gets as many complaints as no handouts.) For everyone else, SHARE was business as usual. Sure was. I saw a few hundred pounds of handouts sitting on just one of the tables in the convention center late Friday. Not sure how much was on all the other tables spread around, but it was more than a little. Mark Post -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SHARE no handouts(?)
Mark Post wrote: (Even doubled-sided 2-up copies add up when you're giving 7 hours or so of sessions. Anything like 4-up gets as many complaints as no handouts.) I have for many years distributed handouts that are 4-up, double-sided i.e., 8 slides per physical sheet and never, ever had a single complaint. The trick is to use a printing technique that eliminates all extraneous white space between and around slide images. I saw a few hundred pounds of handouts sitting on just one of the tables in the convention center late Friday. Not sure how much was on all the other tables spread around, but it was more than a little. Not sure about those other tables, but a semi-annual perusal of the official Extra Speaker Handouts table, Friday @ noon, is an excellent way to learn which speakers consistently over-estimate the popularity of their sessions! Good thing it all gets recycled ... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: new Feb2008 zPOP: Execute Relative Long
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 11:00:43 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote: Give 'em an inch and they'll take a yard! People are already clamoring for additional forms of EXRL that can OR the mask with other than byte one of the target instruction! It never ends! :-) Why not just a facility that will OR an entire grande register with 8 bytes of instructions and execute the result? If one wished, one might put zeroes in the storage and the instruction proper in the register. This comes perilously close to self-modifying code. I'm reminded of the PDP-6/10/20, where the registers were memory mapped, or the bottom 16 words of memory were register mapped, depending on model/feature/price. One could MVC (of course; no need for LM) a short loop into registers and branch to location 0 to execute it. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SHARE no handouts(?)
Good thing it all gets recycled ... But, like a paging operation, the best recycled material is the stuff that doesn't have to be recycled. Now, can we drop this thread, please. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SHARE no handouts(?)
- Original Message - From: , IBM Mainframe Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:42 AM Subject: Re: SHARE no handouts(?) In a message dated 3/1/2008 6:51:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Going Green is a euphemism for we want to save money by not providing copiers at the conference. SHARE does not discourage speakers from distributing paper handouts; it just doesn't want to incur the cost of printing them. IMO, going green was a convenient spin to justify the policy change. So the green does not mean eco-friendly but rather refers to the color of the FERNs [1] being saved? What about providing copiers that are not free? You copy your paper and pay for how many pages you copied. SHARE could still be non-profit if they computed the charge per page properly. Or instead of a copier there could be a page in the final agenda (is that still being printed? how much paper is wasted on that thing?) with directions to all the retail stores nearby which have pay-per-use copiers (Kinko's, e.g.). The lowest price onsite was $.25/image (not page, image, so 2-sided was $.50). Even if you could get offsite to Kinko's, speakers such as myself giving 6 presentations could well spend over $1000 on repro. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Cobol Java Ldap and between
Hi, Does any body knows if there was any enhancment if the way standard structured cobol can call a java program? Do you still need to ceate a c/c++ connector ? I saw that oo cobol can call directly to java, can a structured cobol call to an oo cobol which calls java? I want to query z/os ldap server from a cobol program is there any other way for doing it? and last question. If a c/c++ connector s required and I don't have c/c++ compiler for z/os can I compile on another platform and port the object / Module to z/os environment? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Magen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Fw: Cobol Java Ldap and between
I could be mistaken on this, but I don't think there is any requirement for a C/C++ connector for a non-OO COBOL program to INVOKE (not CALL) an OO COBOL program. I eally do NOT know this part of Enterprise COBOL, but you can check out: http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr/BOOKS/igy3pg40/6.0 and possibly directly to your quesiton, http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr/BOOKS/igy3pg40/4.1.5 Magen Nargalit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi, Does any body knows if there was any enhancment if the way standard structured cobol can call a java program? Do you still need to ceate a c/c++ connector ? I saw that oo cobol can call directly to java, can a structured cobol call to an oo cobol which calls java? I want to query z/os ldap server from a cobol program is there any other way for doing it? and last question. If a c/c++ connector s required and I don't have c/c++ compiler for z/os can I compile on another platform and port the object / Module to z/os environment? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SHARE no handouts(?)
Norman Hollander on h-WiZ.biz wrote: By the way, Eric, you can reduce your registration costs but doing a presentation at SHARE. Each day you do one, you get to attend that day for free. Granted, it doesn't help with travel and hotel, but it is something. Be sure to work with the schedulers to avoid presenting twice in the same day. I spoke with someone in Orlando that presented four out of five days and paid for only one! -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM Tivoli Monitoring (ITM for short) (was: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?)
Hello Andrew, And so we have a case of us customers being ignored... :-) The PC I use has only got Company mandated and wrapped products installed. We don't get to have any Tivoli product installed onto them.We cannot just install your lovely products onto these PCs..Let alone they would have to pay licence fees for such. Hard to justify when we have the Omegamon product installed under z/OS... So there is no way I get to access Tivoli Enterprise Portal (TEP).. You are going to have to do far better to enable us poor z/OS Sysprogs access to software not running under z/OS Maybe if the whole Omegamon product suite was better documented, and that is one thing I do believe will improve now that it is IBM owned, we would be able implement TEP and Omegamon XE and JUSTIFY such extra costs for all Sysprogs and selected Application Programmers. (It may be simpler for you to code these new functions in these off-box products, but it is hard not to think they are just ways to make more money!) Include in all of this the pain of using ICAT to manage multiple system copies of the Omegamon product suites, it is no wonder I have not been able to investigate well the world of Omegamon outside of the classic interfaces. I have not got past performing a complete Run Time Environment rebuild every time we get a maintenance/release upgrade to our product set. The opportunities for regressed changes are immense. The same as Doug, I only use the VTAM interfaces to the Omegamon product suite. On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:39:06 -0500, Andrew McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug Fuerst wrote: ICKY. So I have to put in the XE piece and access the TEMS to look at anything. The setup for that has pretty bad and confusing documentation, and is an unwieldy implementation. Besides, I was told by Omegamon support that there was nothing in the GUI that I couldn't get to in the VTAM classic sessions, it would just look better and could be analyzed using Excel and the like. Did it occur to anyone in Omegamon support that I might like to look at the TSO/VTAM CUA type display? I GUESS NOT Doug I certainly don't want to step into a messy thread here (why do I feel that it's to late?) but here goes The XE levels of the V41 OMEGAMONs are where all the power of the products are. They allow you to use the Tivoli Enterprise Portal (TEP) and it's single pane of glass architecture to combine distributed monitoring and System z OMEGAMONs all on one GUI. The overall technology is called IBM Tivoli Monitoring (ITM for short). Once you are comfortable with the attributes (metrics), workspaces, situations and queries of one product, you can jump over to any other product without any problems. As far as VTAM monitoring, the OMEGAMON XE for Mainframe Networks includes the MFN II (CUA) 3270 based product, which still provides VTAM monitoring. However, there are a lot more features available if you implement the XE agent and the TEP. For instance, FTP session monitoring and VTAM EE and HPR connection. Here's the latest ITM doc, which has some excellent manuals in it. Especially the installation manual: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v15r1/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.itm.doc/understand.htm -- Andrew McIntyre - Consulting IT Specialist IBM System z Software Technical Sales SMPO (Software Migration Project Office) TMT (Tivoli Migration Team) 404-487-2477 or tie 546-2477 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Netview problem
Hello Rafal, Are you running your Netview task as SUB=MSTR? Please provide sample of duplicated messages. Thanks Bruce Hewson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Where can I find the C compiler JCL procedure?
Running ADCD z/OS 1.8. Not sure which member of ADCD.Z18.PROCLIB is the C compiler procedure or if the compiler JCL is in another library altogether. TIA, Jerry -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
