ISMF Log Information

2008-06-16 Thread Sivakumar, Manikandan
Greetings!

 

Is there any possibility to view the ISMF log information? Sorry if I am
asking differently How to trace the ISMF activity ? Is it possible
to track ?

Thanks in advance. J

 

Regards,   

Mani

 



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Re: APAR OA25468

2008-06-16 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
Sounds like you're not looking in IBMLink.  APARs are generally
released 
to the public web interfaces once the APAR has closed.  OA25468 is
open.

You're of course right. Stupid me! 
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Re: RMM CDSID SYSZRMM

2008-06-16 Thread Mike Wood
Michael,
  You must be looking in a pre-z/OS V1.9 book.
Here is the section in 1.9 book http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-
bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2c860/2.5.5?
SHELF=EZ2ZO10K.bksDT=20070424113027 and then there is the z/OS 
Migration book here http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-
bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/e0z2m151/9.1.3?
SHELF=EZ2ZO10K.bksDT=20080125121550 

My recommendation would be to update any existing RNL definitions for 
SYSZRMM MASTER.RESERVE to GENERIC.

Mike WoodRMM Development

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Re: ISMF Log Information

2008-06-16 Thread Lizette Koehler
What specifically are you looking to trace?  ISMF is an ISPF application, as
such it will have some ability to have ISPF trace some of its elements.  If
you are looking to trace some of the functions for audit, you might be able
to turn audit on with your security product for the various facility classes
for DFSMS.

But the rest can probably be found in SMF records.

Lizette



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XPLINK

2008-06-16 Thread Magen Margalit
Hi List,

We are Z/OS 1.7 with Enterprise cobol 3.4 and SDK 1.4

I'm trying to run an OO Cobol program which invokes a Java method
and I'm having problems with the LE runtime option XPLINK

The compilation and linkage work find.

I'm trying to run the program using the BPXBATCH utility 
with PGM myprog and STDENV DD which contains 
_CEE_RUNOPTS=XPLINK(ON)

Even so I get the following error code:

CEE3555S A call was made from a NOXPLINK-compiled application to an 
XPLINK-compiled exported function in DLL libjvm.so
and the XPLINK(ON) runtime option was not specified.   
From entry point GetJVMPtr at compile unit offset +00B8 at entry offset 
+00B8 at address 3E8AB618.


Any Ideas?

thanks

Magen

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Re: XPLINK

2008-06-16 Thread Denis Gäbler
 Hi,

I am not 100% sure, but I recall that coding //STEP1 
PGM=JAVACALL,PARM='XPLINK(ON)' once worked for me. 

I prefer a CEEUOPT Module linked with the application, similar like the SYSIN 
below as input to assembler:
//SYSIN??? DD *
 TITLE 'CEEUOPT'
CEEUOPT? CSECT
CEEUOPT? AMODE ANY
CEEUOPT? RMODE ANY
 CEEXOPT XPLINK=(ON),? X
?? POSIX=(ON), X
?? ENVAR=('_CEE_ENVFILE=/u/gaebler/hello/ENV')
 END
//*

The file /u/gaebler/hello/ENV can then contain USS Variables, but there are 
also DD Statements to achieve this:
LIBPATH=/usr/lpp/java/J5.0/bin
PATH=/usr/lpp/java/J5.0/bin
...

Hope that helps.


 Denis.


 

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Hi List,

We are Z/OS 1.7 with Enterprise cobol 3.4 and SDK 1.4

I'm trying to run an OO Cobol program which invokes a Java method
and I'm having problems with the LE runtime option XPLINK

The compilation and linkage work find.

I'm trying to run the program using the BPXBATCH utility 
with PGM myprog and STDENV DD which contains 
_CEE_RUNOPTS=XPLINK(ON)

Even so I get the following error code:

CEE3555S A call was made from a NOXPLINK-compiled application to an 
XPLINK-compiled exported function in DLL libjvm.so
and the XPLINK(ON) runtime option was not specified.   
From entry point GetJVMPtr at compile unit offset +00B8 at entry offset 
+00B8 at address 3E8AB618.


Any Ideas?

thanks

Magen

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Re: Enhanced JCL processor? (and maybe a few other thoughts)

2008-06-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/15/2008
   at 11:04 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

And if there are INCLUDE members with similar numbers?

The C/I should identify both the line number and the member.

I like HLASM's technique of an additional Informative message which
identifies the directory and member and relative line number in which
the error was detected

HLASM also shows the sequence number.


In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/15/2008
   at 11:11 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Which access method do programs running under TSO use to read from
DSN(*)?

BSAM and QSAM.

I thought I had coded MACRF= to use BSAM.

I had thought that BSAM was an access method.

Does either BSAM or VTAM do the folding?

BSAM, not VTAM. QSAM as well.

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Re: EXCP access methos

2008-06-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/11/2008
   at 10:37 AM, Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Makes perfect sense to me. Under OS/360, we didn't have the protection 
that CCW translation gives us today and it was incredibly easy to 
destroy part of the OS

Not by pointing a CCW at it; storage protection was good enough for that.
The holes were things like failure to ensure that key 0 code came from
authorized libraries..
 
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Re: EXCP access methos

2008-06-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/11/2008
   at 06:50 PM, (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:

I don't know what VSAM-like access methods are. 

ACB/RPL. That includes VTAM and access to SPOOL data sets. I believe that
JES2 still uses EXCPVR but JES3 uses STARTIO.
 
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Re: EXCP access methos

2008-06-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/11/2008
   at 04:58 PM, J R [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I don't think so.  I remember writing code for OS/360 that, during  early
testing, incorrectly calculated a buffer size requirement.   Sure enough,
when a subsequent READ CCW tried to read into 
beyond the end of the GETMAINed area, a S0C4 was the result

The CCW-related failure was not an ABEND S0C4, but an error code in the
IOB. If you got an 0C4 it was not from executing the CCW.
 
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Re: EXCP access methos

2008-06-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/11/2008
   at 05:38 PM, Gerhard Postpischil [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

You had storage?  All of our programmers had core, and 
persisted in that usage even into the late seventies.

Yeah, but not all shops saved money by buying a 370/155 after the
370/158 had been announced :-(

In PCP all of storage was fair game,

I believe that PCP supported storage protection, although, of course, it
shared the exposures that MFT and MVT had.

(there were a couple of loopholes in SVC 
parameter validity checking that IBM fixed eventually). 

There were more that IBM never fixed in OS/360, and some that they didn't
fix in SVS.

lucking out with an add-on memory whose 
protection capability had not been configured correctly.

At least you didn't have an alternate tape channel that hadn't been
upgraded to support IDA :-(
 
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Re: EXCP access methos

2008-06-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/12/2008
   at 11:39 AM, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

And, EXCP is an ordinary unauthorized interface. STARTIO and EXCPVR are
not.

Are you a betting man?
 
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Re: Space allocation with SMS

2008-06-16 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM


BillD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
...
 Before SMS came along, it was a good idea to get all the space needed
 in the first extent and allocate a 10-20% secondary for
 contingencies.  This was known to be more efficient.  

Why? Why before SMS?
With older, real devices, extents could generate larger headmoves which
could hirt performance. With current, cached disk devices, this does not
count anymore.

With faster
 devices and SMS maybe getting secondary extents as a matter of course
 is no big deal.  Coding secondary extents larger than the primary
 still makes no sense to me.
 

It depends, mainly on how much data is created. 
Compare it to the SPACE=(CYL,(0,100)) for dump datasets that might or
might not be used.
On the other hand, allocating a large primary extent and releasing
unused space is as efficient.

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Kees

 Any comments?
 
 Sincerely,
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Outsourcing hits new low

2008-06-16 Thread Matthew Stitt
Saw this on through the CNN.COM web site early today.  This has got to be a
new low for outsourcing.

http://www.kitv.com/money/16607424/detail.html

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Re: Outsourcing hits new low

2008-06-16 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM


Matthew Stitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Saw this on through the CNN.COM web site early today.  This has got to
be a
 new low for outsourcing.
 
 http://www.kitv.com/money/16607424/detail.html
 

What's new?
I know of much more work, that is sent (electronically) to Texas and
Mexico to be processed there by cheaper hands. 
I heard of Chinese callcenter workers that are trained in the different
US accents, to give the US caller the feeling he is talking to a fellow
countrymen. 
As fast as you gather information from allover the world, work also
flows over the same network. 
Be honest, you don't want to pay xx% more for a hamburger to assure a
local person is taking your order, do you?

Kees.
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Re: Enhanced JCL processor? (and maybe a few other thoughts)

2008-06-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:00:09 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/15/2008
   at 11:04 AM, Paul Gilmartin said:

And if there are INCLUDE members with similar numbers?

The C/I should identify both the line number and the member.

I like HLASM's technique of an additional Informative message which
identifies the directory and member and relative line number in which
the error was detected

HLASM also shows the sequence number.

And, at least for those lines lacking unique sequence numbers,
the C/I should identify the relative line number.

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/15/2008
   at 11:11 AM, Paul Gilmartin said:

Which access method do programs running under TSO use to read from
DSN(*)?

BSAM and QSAM.

I thought I had coded MACRF= to use BSAM.

I had thought that BSAM was an access method.

Does either BSAM or VTAM do the folding?

BSAM, not VTAM. QSAM as well.

I had imagined the TMP interposed its own filter behind BSAM/QSAM.
Educate me:  How, outside the TMP, can one code a call to BSAM or
QSAM to perform folding?  Is there something line DCB=(OPTCD=FOLD)?

-- gil

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Re: Outsourcing hits new low

2008-06-16 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
 
 
 Matthew Stitt wrote ...
  Saw this on through the CNN.COM web site early today.  This 
 has got to be a
  new low for outsourcing.
  
  http://www.kitv.com/money/16607424/detail.html
  
 
 What's new?
 I know of much more work, that is sent (electronically) to 
 Texas and Mexico to be processed there by cheaper hands. 
 I heard of Chinese callcenter workers that are trained in the 
 different US accents, to give the US caller the feeling he is 
 talking to a fellow countrymen. 
 As fast as you gather information from allover the world, 
 work also flows over the same network. 
 Be honest, you don't want to pay xx% more for a hamburger to 
 assure a local person is taking your order, do you?

Right on!  Much better to put the locals on some kind of welfare
program, AND pay for the off-shore order-takers.

-jc-

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Re: Outsourcing hits new low

2008-06-16 Thread McKown, John
[snip]
 Right on!  Much better to put the locals on some kind of welfare
 program, AND pay for the off-shore order-takers.
 
 -jc-

I am somewhat confused by this as well. But I'll admit that I'm not an
economist. I'm a computer techie. But as more things are done far
away, that reduces the average and median income in the local economy.
Which reduces the ability to make money in that economy. Eventually, it
seems to me, the local economy will no longer be able to support itself
and will collapse. I what the big boys hope to do is syphon off money
in the interim and so don't care about the long term. That is one
problem with globalization, in my ignorant view. And, of course, long
term today implies beyond this fiscal cycle. Unlike the 3 year and
5 year plans of my misspent youth.

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Re: Outsourcing hits new low

2008-06-16 Thread Anton Britz
Yes,,

I ordered a Leather Recliner from Costco 4 weeks ago, for my Mother's visit 
from South Africa.

So, this weekend, I phoned the Customer Support help line and I was routed 
to India.  They requested my order number and did a computer look-up and 
just read to me , what I could see on the Internet lookup my self.

Conclusion :  I am in America, I can use a Computer and I know how to set my 
email Out of office message... Why do I need to phone India for this 
information.   

NotE: I even knew Pakistan won the cricket game and that NZ was in a spot 
of bother against England.

Anton

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replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread McKown, John
Well, it looks like SAS is pricing itself out of our range. Or
management is just doesn't think that we are getting our moneys worth or
... 

Anyway, other than using HLASM or maybe shudder COBOL, anybody have
any suggestions how to easily do some ad hoc type SMF reporting? What
would be really nice would be some sort of SMF to XML output program. I
really like the IRRADU00 output (RACF SMF data translated to XML). I
download that to my PC and run Java against it. If necessary, I could
even develop and test the Java code on my PC and run the application on
the mainframe once it is working. (or use Co:Z to ship the XML to my
Linux system and run the code there with the response going back to the
mainframe).

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Doniparti Lakshminarasimha Rao/India/IBM is out of the office - 16th and 17th Jun-2008.

2008-06-16 Thread Anton Britz
I will be out of the office starting  16/06/2008 and will not return until 
18/06/2008.

Conclusion : Now we know that Lotus Notes can even send out of Office 
messages for IBM from INDIA...Amazing stuff.

Why am I reposting ? Because I have software grease monkeys in the USA 
that responds with I did not see the Out of office message... can you point 
me in the right direction   Seriously, I am not kidding you.

Note: Maybe we can stop this by cutting the cable going thought the 
Mediterranean...  Maybe even get IRAN to do it and then they can flatten the 
Middle East before they leave office.. Five birds with one stone

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Re: 2105 sense code hds

2008-06-16 Thread Joel M Ivey
Ron  Glenn, thank you.   I had already varied the target offline on the
other zos lpar, but the target was online to a VM system.The PPRC copy
now works.

Thanks for the assist!
Joel



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Hi Joel,

I also have twin HDS9980V subsystems with TrueCopy and ShadowImage
installed.  I tried your ICKDSK JCL on using two of my 1 cylinder DASD volumes
( they are former XRC utility volumes ) and I believe I received the same
error:

ICKDSF - MVS/ESADEVICE SUPPORT FACILITIES 17.0

   PPRCOPY ESTPAIR -
   DDNAME(A) -
   MODE(COPY) -
   PRIMARY(X'992F',43323,X'3E') -
   SECONDARY(X'992F',43323,X'3F') -
   LSS(X'0F',X'0F')
ICK00700I DEVICE INFORMATION FOR 3F3E IS CURRENTLY AS FOLLOWS:
  PHYSICAL DEVICE = 3390
  STORAGE CONTROLLER = 2105
  STORAGE CONTROL DESCRIPTOR = E8
  DEVICE DESCRIPTOR = 0A
  ADDITIONAL DEVICE INFORMATION = 4A35
  TRKS/CYL = 15, # PRIMARY CYLS = 1
ICK04000I DEVICE IS IN SIMPLEX STATE

ICK10710I I/O ERROR OCCURRED ON DEVICE 3F3E
CSW = 0EF038 0E00   CCW = 270EF060 0021
000EF060  +  00   62413E3F 0F00F0F0 F0F0F0F4 F3F3F2F3
000EF070  +  10   992F0F00 F0F0F0F0 F0F4F3F3 F2F3992F
000EF080  +  20   00
ICKDSF - MVS/ESADEVICE SUPPORT FACILITIES 17.0
SENSE = 8000 BE0F 5800  23124800 992F0F0F
40C2 

ICK34082I A COMMAND WAS RECEIVED THAT IS NOT VALID FOR THIS PPRC
STATE
ICK30003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12

ICK2I ICKDSF PROCESSING COMPLETE. MAXIMUM CONDITION CODE WAS
12


I had the PPRC source volume, UCB address 3F3E and the PPRC target volume,
UCB address 3F3F online to all of my z/OS images.  When I varied the PPRC
target volume offline ( as Ron Hawkins suggested ), the command worked:

ICKDSF - MVS/ESADEVICE SUPPORT FACILITIES 17.0

   PPRCOPY ESTPAIR -
   DDNAME(A) -
   MODE(COPY) -
   PRIMARY(X'992F',43323,X'3E') -
   SECONDARY(X'992F',43323,X'3F') -
   LSS(X'0F',X'0F')
ICK00700I DEVICE INFORMATION FOR 3F3E IS CURRENTLY AS FOLLOWS:
  PHYSICAL DEVICE = 3390
  STORAGE CONTROLLER = 2105
  STORAGE CONTROL DESCRIPTOR = E8
  DEVICE DESCRIPTOR = 0A
  ADDITIONAL DEVICE INFORMATION = 4A35
  TRKS/CYL = 15, # PRIMARY CYLS = 1
ICK04000I DEVICE IS IN SIMPLEX STATE
ICK02203I PPRCOPY ESTPAIR FUNCTION COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY
ICK02231I DEVICE IS NOW A PEER TO PEER REMOTE COPY VOLUME
ICK1I FUNCTION COMPLETED, HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 0


I also received the following messages on each of my z/OS images, which I
normally receive whenever I start a PPRC pair on my system:

IEA494I 3F3E,SO3F3E,PPRC PAIR PENDING,SSID=992F,CCA=3E

IEA494I 3F3E,SO3F3E,PPRC PAIR FULL DUPLEX,SSID=992F,CCA=3E

HTH

Glenn Miller

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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Kirk Wolf
John,

You might also consider using the Assembler DSECT mapping support that is
available in the
alphaWorks version of JZOS.   With it, you can generate Java record mapping
classes from
Assembler DSECT and then process the records using a Java program.

See:  http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/zosjavabatchtk

The Java program could either run on z/OS, or you could still use Co:Z to
ship the raw SMF
records to Linux and run the Java processing program there.

Other than Java, you could use C and use the z/OS C++ CDSECT compiler
utility that converts
a DSECT into C header files.

FWIW: here's example JCL that dumps SMF and offloads processing of it using
Co:Z.  Our
download site has a sample C program, but you could also use Java.

http://dovetail.com/docs/coz/cookbook.html#4_5

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:51 AM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Well, it looks like SAS is pricing itself out of our range. Or
 management is just doesn't think that we are getting our moneys worth or
 ...

 Anyway, other than using HLASM or maybe shudder COBOL, anybody have
 any suggestions how to easily do some ad hoc type SMF reporting? What
 would be really nice would be some sort of SMF to XML output program. I
 really like the IRRADU00 output (RACF SMF data translated to XML). I
 download that to my PC and run Java against it. If necessary, I could
 even develop and test the Java code on my PC and run the application on
 the mainframe once it is working. (or use Co:Z to ship the XML to my
 Linux system and run the code there with the response going back to the
 mainframe).

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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Shane Ginnane
I see customers stampeding to SAS/PC (or whatever it's called).
Barry has some notes on how to get the SMF data up to the mickey-mouse
servers - even the PDBs I hear. If you pull from the PC end, all the
EBCDIC/ASCII, [big|small]- endian issues are resolved.
Must be cheap too ...

Have a look.

Shane ...

Quoting McKown, John :

 Well, it looks like SAS is pricing itself out of our range. Or
 management is just doesn't think that we are getting our moneys worth
 or
 ...

 Anyway, other than using HLASM or maybe shudder COBOL, anybody
 have any suggestions how to easily do some ad hoc type SMF reporting?

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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 6/16/2008 9:51:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

download that to my PC and run Java against it. If necessary, I  could
even develop and test the Java code on my PC and run the application  on
the mainframe once it is working. (or use Co:Z to ship the XML to  my
Linux system and run the code there with the response going back to  the
mainframe).



Didn't have much luck with JAVA RMF under  Windoze, maybe it works better on 
Linux?
 
_http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/rmf/rmfhtmls/pmweb/pmweb.ht
ml_ 
(http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/rmf/rmfhtmls/pmweb/pmweb.html)
 
 
Anyway, won't SAS run on Linux? Seems that  would be cheapest. Do what you've 
been doing just do it on the PC. Dr. Merrill  has examples at _www.mxg.com_ 
(http://www.mxg.com)  on how to process  SMF data on the PC.







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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shane Ginnane
 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:20 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?
 
 I see customers stampeding to SAS/PC (or whatever it's called).
 Barry has some notes on how to get the SMF data up to the mickey-mouse
 servers - even the PDBs I hear. If you pull from the PC end, all the
 EBCDIC/ASCII, [big|small]- endian issues are resolved.
 Must be cheap too ...
 
 Have a look.
 
 Shane ...

That is a possibility as well and is being discussed. But then we'd need
a license for every desktop user (well, that's only 5 of us). But if
person#1 does the work most of the time, then it would be difficult for
person#2 to come in and take over while they are on vacation (or, in my
group, at the doctor's). 

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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Longnecker, Dennis
I keep telling myself I need to look closer at this . . . .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Programming_System



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Subject: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

Well, it looks like SAS is pricing itself out of our range. Or
management is just doesn't think that we are getting our moneys worth or
... 

Anyway, other than using HLASM or maybe shudder COBOL, anybody have
any suggestions how to easily do some ad hoc type SMF reporting? What
would be really nice would be some sort of SMF to XML output program. I
really like the IRRADU00 output (RACF SMF data translated to XML). I
download that to my PC and run Java against it. If necessary, I could
even develop and test the Java code on my PC and run the application on
the mainframe once it is working. (or use Co:Z to ship the XML to my
Linux system and run the code there with the response going back to the
mainframe).

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UR1 vs FIN

2008-06-16 Thread Edward Jaffe
I'm being offered UR1 closure for an APAR. The description sounds just 
like FIN closure. Is there a difference?


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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Shane Ginnane
Quoting McKown, John:

 (or, in my group, at the doctor's).

Huh ???. You work for a place called HealthMarkets ...
Shouldn't the quack come to *YOU* (in your cubicle) as a perk of the job
???... g,d,r

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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Thomas Kern
If you can get the SMF data into a usable format and get it down to PCs, you
might try this R statistical/graphing package:  

http://www.r-project.org/

/Tom Kern


On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:51:12 -0500, McKown, John
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Well, it looks like SAS is pricing itself out of our range. Or
management is just doesn't think that we are getting our moneys worth or
...

Anyway, other than using HLASM or maybe shudder COBOL, anybody have
any suggestions how to easily do some ad hoc type SMF reporting? What
would be really nice would be some sort of SMF to XML output program. I
really like the IRRADU00 output (RACF SMF data translated to XML). I
download that to my PC and run Java against it. If necessary, I could
even develop and test the Java code on my PC and run the application on
the mainframe once it is working. (or use Co:Z to ship the XML to my
Linux system and run the code there with the response going back to the
mainframe).

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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread McKown, John
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kern
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 Subject: Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?
 
 If you can get the SMF data into a usable format and get it 
 down to PCs, you
 might try this R statistical/graphing package:  
 
 http://www.r-project.org/
 
 /Tom Kern

I do have R loaded on my Linux PC. But I haven't had time to really look
at it. Also, I cannot seem to find any easy to read documentation.

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Re: UR1 vs FIN

2008-06-16 Thread Brian Peterson
From ServiceLink User's Guide Document Number SH52-0300-10 September 
1996, as found in VM IBMLink:

Appendix B.1 APAR Closing Codes

The APAR closing codes are:  
 
ADM A partially closed APAR; can still be added to AST list; contains
administrative information only right now; technical information 
will be added later  
CAN Canceled by person who submitted APAR
DOC Documentation error  
DUA Duplicate of a resolved APAR closed for more than ten days   
DUB Duplicate of a resolved APAR closed for ten days or less 
DUU Duplicate of an unresolved APAR  
FIN Fixed in next release
MCH Machine or microcode error   
PER Programming error
PRS Permanent restriction
REQ Requirement for Development's consideration  
RET Returned for additional information  
STD Open Systems Standards deficiency
SUG Suggestion for product enhancement   
UR1 Programming error in the reported release; the problem has been  
corrected in a release not yet available from distribution   
UR2 Same as UR1 but written against an unsupported release   
UR3 Programming error in the reported release; does not exist in the 
current release available from distribution  
UR4 Same as UR3 but written against an unsupported release   
UR5 Unable to reproduce on the reported release  
USE User error   

Sounds like UR1 means something to the effect that the problem has actually 
been fixed in an announced but not yet GA release.  In presentations more 
recent than the above document, I've heard IBM refer to FIN as Fixed IF 
Next so that the FIN code is not interpreted as being a commitment to deliver 
a product prior to such product's actually being announced.

I would further say that if you believe the problem should be fixed in the 
current release, you should still ask for that.  If you believe IBM is correct 
that 
an upcoming release is adequate, then accept IBM's offer for the UR1 closing 
code.

Brian

On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:36:24 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:

I'm being offered UR1 closure for an APAR. The description sounds just
like FIN closure. Is there a difference?

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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:52:03 -0500, Thomas Kern wrote:

If you can get the SMF data into a usable format and get it down to PCs, you
might try this R statistical/graphing package:

http://www.r-project.org/

And:

   From: Longnecker, Dennis
   
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Programming_System   

On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:51:12 -0500, McKown, John wrote:

Well, it looks like SAS is pricing itself out of our range. Or
management is just doesn't think that we are getting our moneys worth or
...

So, is it plausible that with competition from R and W looming on
the horizon, SAS is planning to maintain its level of revenue by
increasing its rates?

-- gil

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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Thomas Kern
I have a hard time reading the documentation too. I think it was written by
statisticians for statisticians. Maybe if some really high-powered people
who know how to do this kind of data manipulation/statistics were to start
working in R or W and made some sample code public, then the rest of us can
start with the samples to explore the capabilities. 

I would never have tried SAS for SMF processing if I had not seen Barry
Merrill's code. Thank you Barry, you saved lots of weeks/months of effort
and ulcers.

/Tom Kern

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I do have R loaded on my Linux PC. But I haven't had time to really look
at it. Also, I cannot seem to find any easy to read documentation.

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Re: UR1 vs FIN

2008-06-16 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - 
From: Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 11:36 AM
Subject: UR1 vs FIN


I'm being offered UR1 closure for an APAR. The description sounds just 
like FIN closure. Is there a difference?




Ed,

It's better than a FIN because the work's been done.  I've had FIN's get 
lost before, and waited multiple releases for the fix.


Tom 


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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Scott Barry
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:51:12 -0500, McKown, John 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Well, it looks like SAS is pricing itself out of our range. Or
management is just doesn't think that we are getting our moneys worth or
...

Anyway, other than using HLASM or maybe shudder COBOL, anybody have
any suggestions how to easily do some ad hoc type SMF reporting? What
would be really nice would be some sort of SMF to XML output program. I
really like the IRRADU00 output (RACF SMF data translated to XML). I
download that to my PC and run Java against it. If necessary, I could
even develop and test the Java code on my PC and run the application on
the mainframe once it is working. (or use Co:Z to ship the XML to my
Linux system and run the code there with the response going back to the
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I sometimes encounter these emotional management attempts to excercise 
cost-containment before really understanding the time and effort that would 
be needed to replace (and maintain / update as technology changes) SAS and 
all surrounding application code.  

My recommendation is to survey your SAS users and generate a concise list of 
the SAS Base and other optional components being used today at your site 
which may help educate and enlighten management about what SAS really 
provides the enterprise.  SAS can generate a SMF record to identify specific 
component-level usage (PROCs) and some more basic SMF 14/15 information 
and/or PGM=SAS software program usage in batch can also help pinpoint 
the SAS application users for management to ask pertinent questions, like do 
you have time and budget to replace your existing SAS application 
functionality today or at a minimum do without whatever it is that SAS 
provides your group so you can do your job?

SAS has some very powerful facilities, imbedded in the SAS Base product, for 
generating visually-stimulating web, PDF, and other report/chart outputs.  
Also, there are some SAS DATA step functions you just can't do with ANSI 
SQL, frankly.  And the point raised about WPS' solution as a SAS replacement, 
really should be given serious consideration as that product evolves and 
improves, rather than basing any opinions on past experiences.

Lastly, since January 2007, SAS Institute will in fact negotiate with its 
clients, 
so you are encouraged to gather your stats (using SAS, likely) on how SAS is 
being used, where it's being used, and state what your enterprise is willing to 
do to consolidate that usage, ideally to a sub-capacity LPAR.  It's up to the 
client to formulate this type of pitch, to the point that you will need to tell 
SAS what you're willing to pay for some reasonable amount of their software 
capacity.  Toss in some licenses for a few Windows / AIX/ *nix servers and 
some desktops, and make it worth the discussion with your account rep.

Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.

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Re: UR1 vs FIN

2008-06-16 Thread Edward Jaffe

Brian Peterson wrote:

FIN Fixed in next release
UR1 Programming error in the reported release; the problem has been
corrected in a release not yet available from distribution

Sounds like UR1 means something to the effect that the problem has actually 
been fixed in an announced but not yet GA release.  In presentations more 
recent than the above document, I've heard IBM refer to FIN as Fixed IF 
Next so that the FIN code is not interpreted as being a commitment to deliver 
a product prior to such product's actually being announced.
  


I specifically asked if UR1 meant it would be fixed in R10. They said 
No. That means it must be R11 -- which (AFAIK) has not yet been announced.


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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Ron Hawkins
John,

Buying single user licenses is probably the most expensive way to get SAS
for Windows. If you have 5 people that will use SAS then get a five user
license.

If a single user license is all the budget can take, then a method I use
with my team is to load SAS for Windows onto a fairly heavy duty PC and
Remote Desktop to it. One immediate advantage is that compute intensive SAS
procs run in the background without slowing up your desktop/laptop. We have
plenty of licenses, but it means we don't have to run the big stuff on our
laptops.

It also means that person #2 can very easily take over from person #1.
Person #2 just uses Remote Desktop to get to the Workstation when person #1
is away. You can also share time on the same workstation as SAS can run
multiple sessions. If Person # 1 is halfway through something, person # 2
can take the workstation and start a different SAS session without killing
off person #1's work in progress.

If you company has blade servers than it may be easy to get blade for
yourself and load up XP, SAS and MXG. I've been using iSCSI to HDS 9500 rack
 stack storage, and the FTP access method to read SMF directly from the
z/OS LPARs. No Fibre Channel and no File transfers required - just a PDB
served on a platter.

If you get pricing make sure you get the SAS for Windows pricing and not the
Server version. The price difference is substantial.

Oh, and once you have used the GUI on SAS for Windows you will never want to
go back to the MF version. 

Ron

 
 That is a possibility as well and is being discussed. But then we'd
 need
 a license for every desktop user (well, that's only 5 of us). But if
 person#1 does the work most of the time, then it would be difficult for
 person#2 to come in and take over while they are on vacation (or, in my
 group, at the doctor's).
 

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Re: Outsourcing hits new low

2008-06-16 Thread Ron Hawkins
Anton,

Would you feel better if a call centre in Texas gave you the same kiss-off?

Ron

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 Yes,,
 
 I ordered a Leather Recliner from Costco 4 weeks ago, for my Mother's
 visit
 from South Africa.
 
 So, this weekend, I phoned the Customer Support help line and I was
 routed
 to India.  They requested my order number and did a computer look-up
 and
 just read to me , what I could see on the Internet lookup my self.
 
 Conclusion :  I am in America, I can use a Computer and I know how to
 set my
 email Out of office message... Why do I need to phone India for this
 information.
 
 NotE: I even knew Pakistan won the cricket game and that NZ was in a
 spot
 of bother against England.
 
 Anton
 
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Re: Outsourcing hits new low

2008-06-16 Thread Anton Britz
Hi Ron,

Yes, because the Viagra Stimulus Checks would then stimulate your own 
Economy, taxes, roads etc. (Check the mess Arnie is in currently.. Budget 
deficit wise but yes, I saw his wife on the Tim Russert show yesterday, talking 
from Sun Valley.. Ever been in Sun Valley ? )

Alternatively, you have to sit in the Senate for 50 years, to become a 
Chairman  of an appropriations committee in order to channel a few Billion to 
your local Mom and Pop shop.  Currently your local Mom and Pop shop 
needs to be manufacturing bombs to be able to pay the groceries.

Note: What's going to eventually happen to all the bombs/Nuclear heads 
being manufactured because Cabella's can not sell them yet or my brother-in-
law could not buy some this weekend. ( He farms in Africa and was impressed 
with the war arsenal you can buy in the USA stores. The computer stores are 
all closing down)

Anton

On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:44:45 -0700, Ron Hawkins 
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Anton,

Would you feel better if a call centre in Texas gave you the same kiss-off?

Ron


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Re: UR1 vs FIN

2008-06-16 Thread Roger Bolan
In my experience, the difference is normally this: 
UR1 is used for changes that are regarded as new function or some kind 
of improvement or enhancement that was not technically a programming 
error (close code PER) because the program was implementing what the 
programming specification had said it should do.   It also means that the 
fix will be in a PTF for the current release.

FIN means fixed in next, but this does not absolutely guarantee that 
there will be a next release.  That's why you might have heard it as 
fixed IF next.   It's generally used for certain kinds of changes that 
are only allowed to happen on a release boundary (like a significant 
change in the packaging protocol) or some other kind of really significant 
change that can't be done by just a PTF. 

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Re: UR1 vs FIN

2008-06-16 Thread Robert Wright

Roger Bolan wrote:

 FIN means fixed in next, but this does not absolutely guarantee 
that there will be a next release.  That's why you might have heard it 
as fixed IF next.   It's generally used for certain kinds of changes 
that are only allowed to happen on a release boundary (like a 
significant change in the packaging protocol) or some other kind of 
really significant change that can't be done by just a PTF.


FIN really means Fixed IF next for good, legal reasons.  In addition 
to the situations that you describe for FIN use, it opens the door wider 
for customers to report nits that neither the customer nor IBM thinks 
warrant shipping more PTFs in the service streams for current releases. 
 OA25428, for example, let current IPCS developers know that a 
developer 14 years ago made a data entry field on one panel two 
characters too narrow to accept the widest item that can properly be 
entered there.  Hopefully, a lot of these irritants can go away as a 
consequence of similar FIN APARs.


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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I keep telling myself I need to look closer at this . . . .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Programming_System

Yes, but.
Neither MXG, nor (neu)MICS, support WPS.

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Re: UR1 vs FIN

2008-06-16 Thread Roger Bolan
In addition to Bob's update, I was told the same thing offline.  Fixed If 
Next.

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  FIN means fixed in next, but this does not absolutely guarantee 
that there will be a next release.  That's why you might have heard it 
as fixed IF next.   It's generally used for certain kinds of changes 
that are only allowed to happen on a release boundary (like a 
significant change in the packaging protocol) or some other kind of 
really significant change that can't be done by just a PTF.

FIN really means Fixed IF next for good, legal reasons.  In addition 
to the situations that you describe for FIN use, it opens the door wider 
for customers to report nits that neither the customer nor IBM thinks 
warrant shipping more PTFs in the service streams for current releases. 
  OA25428, for example, let current IPCS developers know that a 
developer 14 years ago made a data entry field on one panel two 
characters too narrow to accept the widest item that can properly be 
entered there.  Hopefully, a lot of these irritants can go away as a 
consequence of similar FIN APARs.

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Network Time Protocol (NTP) client support question

2008-06-16 Thread Chauhan, Jasbir
As part of the PCI audit we need to look into adopting NTP (network time
protocol) on the mainframe to ensure all of our 'systems' are
synchronized.  Can STP provide NTP client capability to maintain 'same
time' across heterogeneous platforms. Hopefully, some one out there has
a solution. I'll also contact IBM to see if how they have one. We are
running on a z9-BC. 

 

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Re: Outsourcing hits new low

2008-06-16 Thread Kelman, Tom
 Matthew Stitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Saw this on through the CNN.COM web site early today.  This has got
to
 be a
  new low for outsourcing.
 
  http://www.kitv.com/money/16607424/detail.html
 
 

 C.P. Vernooy posted on June 16, 2008 8:29 AM

 What's new?
 I know of much more work, that is sent (electronically) to Texas and
 Mexico to be processed there by cheaper hands.
 I heard of Chinese callcenter workers that are trained in the
different
 US accents, to give the US caller the feeling he is talking to a
fellow
 countrymen.
 As fast as you gather information from allover the world, work also
 flows over the same network.
 Be honest, you don't want to pay xx% more for a hamburger to assure a
 local person is taking your order, do you?
 
 Kees.


But in the article McDonalds admits they aren't saving any costs by
doing this. So what's the purpose?  It seems to me that it's only
reducing the employment opportunities for the Hawaiians.


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Re: Network Time Protocol (NTP) client support question

2008-06-16 Thread Edward Jaffe

Chauhan, Jasbir wrote:

As part of the PCI audit we need to look into adopting NTP (network time
protocol) on the mainframe to ensure all of our 'systems' are
synchronized.  Can STP provide NTP client capability to maintain 'same
time' across heterogeneous platforms. Hopefully, some one out there has
a solution. I'll also contact IBM to see if how they have one. We are
running on a z9-BC.
  


STP is a cost option. If you don't have it, you can still synchronize 
your systems for free by running SNTPD under z/OS UNIX.


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Re: Network Time Protocol (NTP) client support question

2008-06-16 Thread McKown, John
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 As part of the PCI audit we need to look into adopting NTP 
 (network time
 protocol) on the mainframe to ensure all of our 'systems' are
 synchronized.  Can STP provide NTP client capability to maintain 'same
 time' across heterogeneous platforms. Hopefully, some one out 
 there has
 a solution. I'll also contact IBM to see if how they have one. We are
 running on a z9-BC. 
 
  
 
 Best Regards,
 
 Jasbir

z/OS cannot be an NTP client. However, you can use STP (which is not
NTP!) to maintain the clock on the z and then use z/OS as your NTP
server for the rest of your systems.

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Slow FTP transfer from z/OS to Unix

2008-06-16 Thread François Paré
Hello,

 

I'm running a batch job that does a FTP transfer from a z/OS mainframe to a 
LINUX server and the transfer rate is about 20K/sec. If I do the same FTP 
transfer to a Windows server I got a transfer rate of about 900K/sec. The 
mainframe OSA card is running at 100 Mb/sec full. Since the Windows and the 
LINUX server are on the same switch and got the same throughput capability  I 
suppose that there is an optimal setting that is done automatically when the 
transfer is done with a Windows server but this setting is not done 
automatically with a LINUX server. I tried PASV but it didn't change the bad 
transfer rate. Could you tell me what this setting could be? Thank you!

 

 



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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Scott Barry
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:41:40 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

snip
Yes, but.
Neither MXG, nor (neu)MICS, support WPS.
snip
Not yet.both Merrill and CA have announced they have current WPS 
initiatives.  And Dr. Merrill's RD team has taken it a step further 
integrating 
some initial WPS-related support parameters into the current/recent 
maintenance versions, along with published DOC on WPS support experiences.

Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.

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STK9310 ( PowderHorn ) ATL and STK9840D tape drives

2008-06-16 Thread Glenn Miller
We have been trying to upgrade the LMU/LCU on our STK9310 ( PowderHorn ) 
ATL to support STK9840D tape drives.  We currently have microcode level 
1.9.26 on the LMU's and we have microcode level 4.2.04 on the LCU's.  

For the 2nd weekend we attempted to upgrade the microcode level to 1.9.74 
on the LMU's and 4.4.08 on the LCU's.  The installation/activation of the 
microcode appears to successful.  The LMU's activate successfully, the LSM's 
activate successfully and all of our tape drives work.  We are able to 
mount/dismount tape cartridges in all of our tape drives.  However when we 
attempt to any type of CAP processing, 'ejects' or 'enters' something goes 
very wrong and the entire SILO ( the entire ACS ) appears to become 
unresponsive because the STK HSC host software reports that the ACS is 
disconnected.

Last weekend we were running on the 'new' LMU/LCU microcode for more than 
90 minutes before we attempted to perform a CAP 'enter'.  The robotics 
appeared to 'read' 11 tape cartridges before we recieved the ACS 
Disconnected message on the z/OS consoles.

Yesterday we were running for about 30 minutes before we attempted to 
eject 1 3490 tape cartridge.  The robot had retrieved the cartridge from its 
storage cell, moved it to the CAP cell before we received the ACS 
Disconnected message on the z/OS consoles.

We have engaged STK software support who says they have not encountered 
any problems with this level of microcode.  They are attempting to analyze 
some HSC 'trace' data we captured yesterday when the problem occrred.

I was wondering if anyone has STK9840D tape drives installed in a STK9310 ( 
PowderHorn ) ATL ( not an SL8500 ) and if so, would you be willing to share 
with me your LMU/LCU microcode levels and if you do any CAP processing.


Thank you in advance for any help you can give us.

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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Kelman, Tom
 From Longnecker, Dennis
 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:33 AM
 
 
 I keep telling myself I need to look closer at this . . . .
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Programming_System
 
 
 

This product is now marketed by IBM.  In 2005 Barry Merrill started
testing his MXG code against the WPS system.  At that time he felt the
system was still vapor ware.  It appears to be improving over the
years.  Barry continues to test MXG against it, and the progress is
recorded in the NEWSLTRS member of MXG.SOURCLIB (Search for WPS).  From
the way I read the NEWSLTRS member Barry will support running MXG on WPS
under certain conditions.  For example, if your MXG run abends you need
to call WPS first.  If WPS then says the problem is in the MXG code, you
need to send everything to Barry.  He'll run it using SAS instead of
WPS, and if the abend still occurs he'll check it out.

If anyone is thinking of getting WPS to replace SAS I would get an
agreement that you can do through acceptance testing before signing a
contract.  Especially if you are using more advanced functions of SAS
like creating graphs, html, and PDF files and putting them on the HFS
system using SAS ODS, or if you're doing any heavy macro processing.  


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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Rick Fochtman

--snip--
Well, it looks like SAS is pricing itself out of our range. Or 
management is just doesn't think that we are getting our moneys worth or ...


Anyway, other than using HLASM or maybe shudder COBOL, anybody have 
any suggestions how to easily do some ad hoc type SMF reporting? What 
would be really nice would be some sort of SMF to XML output program. I 
really like the IRRADU00 output (RACF SMF data translated to XML). I 
download that to my PC and run Java against it. If necessary, I could 
even develop and test the Java code on my PC and run the application on 
the mainframe once it is working. (or use Co:Z to ship the XML to my 
Linux system and run the code there with the response going back to the 
mainframe).

unsnip---
Let me point out that PL/1 lends itself very nicely to processing of SMF 
data, with offset variables, etc. It's a little more work than just SAS 
processing, but the various data types in PL/1 can map SMF data 
variables very nicely. SAS was very effectively priced out of our shop 
long ago, and they were not willing to negotiate at all on the pricing 
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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread McKown, John
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[snip]
 Let me point out that PL/1 lends itself very nicely to 
 processing of SMF 
 data, with offset variables, etc. It's a little more work 
 than just SAS 
 processing, but the various data types in PL/1 can map SMF data 
 variables very nicely. SAS was very effectively priced out of 
 our shop 
 long ago, and they were not willing to negotiate at all on 
 the pricing 
 issue.
 

I would love to try C or PL/I. But all we have are HLASM and COBOL. Oh,
and the current freebies such as Java (which nobody but me has much
familiarity with), REXX, Perl, and maybe some others.

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how to properly set #of logical processors per LPAR?

2008-06-16 Thread Pawel Leszczynski
Hello everybody,

recently, as our production LPARs apetite for CPU has grown meaningful 
(we are in process connecting succesive branches of bank to new application),
our sysprogs decided to simply put online subsequent processors to this LPARs.
We ended in 12 processors assigned to each of them.
I would like to know if 12 processors/LPAR is not too many, i.e.
measure how much capacity it 'wasted' that way.
I realise that RMF monitor III shows overhead on let's say LPAR dispatching
but I guess that's a different story.

Where is this CPU 'wasted'?

That's my naive thinking (please correct me):

Serialization beetween processors within LPAR is done via locks.
Requests for spin lock (from this point of view) are 'CPU-wasting' - processor 
have to wait actively (if wait at all) for obtaining such a lock.
Where are other places???
Is there any tool which sums such 'CPU-wasted' cycles and shows how many 
percent of CPU is 'wasted' in such way?

Regards,
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Re: Enhanced JCL processor? (and maybe a few other thoughts)

2008-06-16 Thread William H. Blair
Paul Gilmartin wrote:

 I had imagined the TMP interposed its own filter behind BSAM/QSAM.
 Educate me:  How, outside the TMP, can one code a call to BSAM or
 QSAM to perform folding?  Is there something line DCB=(OPTCD=FOLD)?

You can't. No, there isn't. OPEN device-dependent code itself will
detect the TERM=TS allocation and setup a specific access method-
dependent GET / PUT routine, which is where the folding occurs (or
at least did occur the last time I looked at the MVS source). 

It's not that hard to understand. If the device allocated to the
DD statement is ordinary DASD, then MACRF-specific code will be 
selected that generates CCWs to read from the tracks allocated 
to the data set on disk. If the device allocated is the terminal
then obviously different code has to be used. The code selected
is a compatibility interface (like the one used for BSAM and
QSAM when a JES SPOOL data set is allocated to the DDname) and
it does what it does. And one of the things they do is to fold
lower case characters to upper case. 

The TMP has absolutely nothing to do with it. It's all in the
access method compatibility interface (although it was not, at
first, called that, since it came out with TSO in OS/360 20.01
and 20.1). But the same mechanism was then later used in OS/VS2
2.0 (MVS) to plug in the ACB/RPL compatibility interface layer.

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Re: Slow FTP transfer from z/OS to Unix

2008-06-16 Thread Wissink, Brad [ITSYS]
We had a similar problem and found it was related to port 113 and firewalls.  
We had the ftp server on a Linux box and were using the client from z/OS.  We 
ended up creating a rule to keep the Linux ftp server from sending to port 113 
of the client.   Port 113 has something to do with identd.  


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Hello,

 

I'm running a batch job that does a FTP transfer from a z/OS mainframe to a 
LINUX server and the transfer rate is about 20K/sec. If I do the same FTP 
transfer to a Windows server I got a transfer rate of about 900K/sec. The 
mainframe OSA card is running at 100 Mb/sec full. Since the Windows and the 
LINUX server are on the same switch and got the same throughput capability  I 
suppose that there is an optimal setting that is done automatically when the 
transfer is done with a Windows server but this setting is not done 
automatically with a LINUX server. I tried PASV but it didn't change the bad 
transfer rate. Could you tell me what this setting could be? Thank you!

 

 



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Re: how to properly set #of logical processors per LPAR?

2008-06-16 Thread Martin Packer
Pawel, it's hard to advise on that unless you give us some more hints 
about your configuration...

e.g LPAR setup, software and hardware models etc.

Just for starters it's entirely reasonable to consider that a logical 
12-way might find inside one processor book of a z9 S54.

Martin

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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Martin Packer
It's not the ability to map SMF data that counts here - for anyone 
considering doing this in a programming language other than SAS (or indeed 
replacing ANY commercial SMF analysis product). It's the intellectual 
capital involved in knowing what to do with the data.

So I, personally, wouldn't recommend moving away from products that 
manipulate the data. Unless you have an issue with their ability to do 
the right thing with the specific SMF data in question. It would seem to 
me to be moving away from the folklore pack and into shark-infested 
waters on your own. :-)

Martin

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Re: how to properly set #of logical processors per LPAR?

2008-06-16 Thread Kelman, Tom
 From: Pawel Leszczynski
 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 3:18 PM
 
 Hello everybody,
 
 recently, as our production LPARs apetite for CPU has grown meaningful
 (we are in process connecting succesive branches of bank to new
 application),
 our sysprogs decided to simply put online subsequent processors to
this
 LPARs.
 We ended in 12 processors assigned to each of them.
 I would like to know if 12 processors/LPAR is not too many, i.e.
 measure how much capacity it 'wasted' that way.
 I realise that RMF monitor III shows overhead on let's say LPAR
 dispatching
 but I guess that's a different story.
 
 Where is this CPU 'wasted'?
 
 That's my naive thinking (please correct me):
 
 Serialization beetween processors within LPAR is done via locks.
 Requests for spin lock (from this point of view) are 'CPU-wasting' -
 processor
 have to wait actively (if wait at all) for obtaining such a lock.
 Where are other places???
 Is there any tool which sums such 'CPU-wasted' cycles and shows how
many
 percent of CPU is 'wasted' in such way?
 
 Regards,
 PAwel Leszczynski
 PKO BP SA
 
We need a little more information here.  For example, what are the total
number of physical processors?  One rule I've followed is that you don't
want to have the number of LPs to be more than 2.5 times the number of
PPs.  That might be a little outdated, I don't know, but it's what I
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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Thomas Kern
Usually we don't choose to move away from good products like SAS or from 3rd
party performance monitors. It is usually a Management decision to lower
costs at any cost that forces us to go back to basic analysis/reporting,
often done in freebie languages (FORTRAN-G, PL/I-F, Rexx, etc)

And training for knowing what to do with the data? That training budget was
eliminated 15 years ago.

/Tom Kern


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It's not the ability to map SMF data that counts here - for anyone
considering doing this in a programming language other than SAS (or indeed
replacing ANY commercial SMF analysis product). It's the intellectual
capital involved in knowing what to do with the data.

So I, personally, wouldn't recommend moving away from products that
manipulate the data. Unless you have an issue with their ability to do
the right thing with the specific SMF data in question. It would seem to
me to be moving away from the folklore pack and into shark-infested
waters on your own. :-)

Martin

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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Have you considered DFSORT and ICETOOL?

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I would love to try C or PL/I. But all we have are HLASM and COBOL. Oh,
and the current freebies such as Java (which nobody but me has much
familiarity with), REXX, Perl, and maybe some others.

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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schwarz, Barry A
 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 4:01 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?
 
 Have you considered DFSORT and ICETOOL?

I don't know how to process repeating groups in ICETOOL. Or other
advanced SMF records which do not have fixed offsets.

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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
So I, personally, wouldn't recommend moving away from products that manipulate 
the data.

The OP doesn't want to move.
He has been 'told' to move.

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DB2 group by with date functions

2008-06-16 Thread Lindy Mayfield
I seem to have forgotten how to do this, and I cannot seem to find the
answer in the docs or via Google.

I want to group by using two columns which are year() and month(), but
the result set isn't grouping.

For example:

Select Year(Expdate), Month(Expdate) , 
Category, Sum(Expamt)  
from EXP.EXPENSES  
group by expdate, category 
order by 1 desc, 2 desc, 3 

Gives:

20086  Adjustments12.68 
20086  Car10.50 
20086  Car18.50

What is the syntax for the group columns when they are functions?

Thanks!
Lindy

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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Scott Barry
And, also, consider the analytic data processing requirement for summary-
level reports, both on-the-fly from your detail and and also with using a 
permanent trending data base of some type.  An underlying database engine / 
technology would need to be factored into any replacement initiative, such as 
SQL Server.  Additional considerations such as data-volume and subject 
matter expertise for SMF data record structures should present some 
interesting discussion with management when considering replacement solution 
auditability, if such a policy/process exists.  Of course, business decisions 
for 
capacity planning and service quality warrant credible, validated information 
resources, correct?  Whatever happens, be sure to get any management 
acceptance / concurrence, in writing for the history books.

Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.

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Re: DB2 group by with date functions

2008-06-16 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield
 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 4:06 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: DB2 group by with date functions
 
 I seem to have forgotten how to do this, and I cannot seem to find the
 answer in the docs or via Google.
 
 I want to group by using two columns which are year() and month(), but
 the result set isn't grouping.
 
 For example:
 
 Select Year(Expdate), Month(Expdate) , 
 Category, Sum(Expamt)  
 from EXP.EXPENSES  
 group by expdate, category 
 order by 1 desc, 2 desc, 3 
 
 Gives:
 
 20086  Adjustments12.68 
 20086  Car10.50 
 20086  Car18.50
 
 What is the syntax for the group columns when they are functions?
 
 Thanks!
 Lindy

 Select Year(Expdate), Month(Expdate) , 
 Category, Sum(Expamt)  
 from EXP.EXPENSES  
 group by Year(expdate), Month(Expdate), category 
 order by 1 desc, 2 desc, 3

ref:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DSNAPK10/1.1.
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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
If you post a message with DFSORT and SMF in the title, I'll Frank will
respond with some suggestions if not a complete example.

-Original Message-
From: McKown, John [mailto:snip] 
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 2:03 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

I don't know how to process repeating groups in ICETOOL. Or other
advanced SMF records which do not have fixed offsets.

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Re: DB2 group by with date functions

2008-06-16 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Thanks John.  That's exactly what I thought, then I started doubting myself 
when I couldn't get it to work.  

Select Year(Expdate), Month(Expdate), Category, sum(expamt) 
from EXP.EXPENSES   
group by Year(Expdate), Month(Expdate), Category
order by 1 desc, 2 desc, 3  

-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
DSNT408I SQLCODE = -104, ERROR:  ILLEGAL SYMBOL (. SOME SYMBOLS THAT MIGHT BE 
 LEGAL ARE: FOR WITH FETCH ORDER UNION EXCEPT QUERYNO OPTIMIZE  
DSNT418I SQLSTATE   = 42601 SQLSTATE RETURN CODE
DSNT415I SQLERRP= DSNHPARS SQL PROCEDURE DETECTING ERROR
DSNT416I SQLERRD= 0  0  0  -1  158  0 SQL DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION
DSNT416I SQLERRD= X''  X''  X''  X''
 X'009E'  X'' SQL DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION


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McKown, John
Sent: 17. kesäkuuta 2008 0:14
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Subject: Re: DB2 group by with date functions

 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield
 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 4:06 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: DB2 group by with date functions
 

 Select Year(Expdate), Month(Expdate) , 
 Category, Sum(Expamt)  
 from EXP.EXPENSES  
 group by Year(expdate), Month(Expdate), category 
 order by 1 desc, 2 desc, 3

ref:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DSNAPK10/1.1.
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Re: Outsourcing hits new low

2008-06-16 Thread Gary Green
Yeah, I read about that last year.  It's not only McDonalds that is doing
this. 


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Please support my efforts!
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Saw this on through the CNN.COM web site early today.  This has got to be a
new low for outsourcing.

http://www.kitv.com/money/16607424/detail.html

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Re: DB2 group by with date functions

2008-06-16 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Ok, this is getting weird.  Right out of the example:

 SELECT SUBSTR(WORKDEPT,1,1), MIN(EDLEVEL), MAX(EDLEVEL)
FROM DSN8910.EMP
GROUP BY SUBSTR(WORKDEPT,1,1) ; 
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
DSNT408I SQLCODE = -104, ERROR:  ILLEGAL SYMBOL (. SOME SYMBOLS THAT MIGHT BE 
 LEGAL ARE: FOR WITH FETCH ORDER UNION EXCEPT QUERYNO OPTIMIZE  
DSNT418I SQLSTATE   = 42601 SQLSTATE RETURN CODE
DSNT415I SQLERRP= DSNHPARS SQL PROCEDURE DETECTING ERROR
DSNT416I SQLERRD= 0  0  0  -1  2040  0 SQL DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION   
DSNT416I SQLERRD= X''  X''  X''  X''
 X'07F8'  X'' SQL DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION


Must be something I'm doing wrong.   Has to be, but I don't yet see it.

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Subject: Re: DB2 group by with date functions

 Select Year(Expdate), Month(Expdate) , 
 Category, Sum(Expamt)  
 from EXP.EXPENSES  
 group by Year(expdate), Month(Expdate), category 
 order by 1 desc, 2 desc, 3

ref:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DSNAPK10/1.1.
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Cloning USS files

2008-06-16 Thread Mike Myers
All:
 
How do I go about cloning part of a HFS file system across LPARs? What I am 
trying to do is to copy part (one directory and all sub-directories) from one 
HFS file on one LPAR into an HFS file on another LPAR. 
 
The HFS file containing the desired directories is mounted as root on one file 
system, which is the downlevel system from which I am migrating. I want to 
carve out a copy of selected directories and files from it and put them into an 
HFS file that will be mounted and used on the uplevel system.
 
What are the steps I need to do to accomplish this?
 
Mike Myers
Pitt County Memorial Hospital
Greenville, NC

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Re: DB2 group by with date functions

2008-06-16 Thread Mike Bell
There isn't one - the fine manual (from V8) says
grouping-expression cannot include any of the following items:
| A correlated column
| A host variable
| A column function
| Any function that is nondeterministic or that is defined to have | an
external action
| A scalar fullselect
| A CASE expression whose searched-when-clause contains a quantified |
predicate, an IN
predicate using a fullselect, or an EXISTS | predicate

Note column function as part of the list.

The standard solution is to create a view which makes the year and month
into real columns (in the view) and then you can group by the column name in
the view.

Mike



Select Year(Expdate), Month(Expdate) ,
 Category, Sum(Expamt)
 from EXP.EXPENSES
 group by expdate, category
 order by 1 desc, 2 desc, 3

 Gives:

 20086  Adjustments12.68
 20086  Car10.50
 20086  Car18.50

 What is the syntax for the group columns when they are functions?

 Thanks!
 Lindy

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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Frank Yaeger
Barry A Schwarz wrote on 06/16/2008 02:15:19 PM:
 If you post a message with DFSORT and SMF in the title, I'll Frank will
 respond with some suggestions if not a complete example.

 -Original Message-
 From: McKown, John [mailto:snip]
 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 2:03 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

 I don't know how to process repeating groups in ICETOOL. Or other
 advanced SMF records which do not have fixed offsets.

DFSORT/ICETOOL has some formats for handling special SMF fields,
but it doesn't have any built-in features for handling triplets
or the complex record types SMF builds.  It only handles linear
records. You would have to be able to address the fields you want
by their linear starting positions in order to use DFSORT/ICETOOL
for that kind of  processing.

That said, FWIW, here's a couple of simple ICETOOL examples for SMF records
from z/OS DFSORT Application Programming Guide:

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ICE1CA20/6.7.5.12?SHELF=DT=20060615185603CASE=

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ICE1CA20/6.7.5.13?SHELF=DT=20060615185603CASE=

I think Martin Packer might have done some tinkering with using
DFSORT/ICETOOL for SMF reports,  so maybe he has something to add on
the subject.

Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Development Team (IBM) - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Specialties: PARSE, JFY, SQZ, ICETOOL, IFTHEN, OVERLAY, Symbols, Migration

 = DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/


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Re: DB2 group by with date functions

2008-06-16 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Thanks, Mike.  So using Group by year(xx) is something new in V9 it seems.

Funny, though, I instinctively tried that syntax first and was surprised it 
didn't work.  

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Bell
Sent: 17. kesäkuuta 2008 0:52
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DB2 group by with date functions

There isn't one - the fine manual (from V8) says
grouping-expression cannot include any of the following items:
| A correlated column
| A host variable
| A column function
| Any function that is nondeterministic or that is defined to have | an
external action
| A scalar fullselect
| A CASE expression whose searched-when-clause contains a quantified |
predicate, an IN
predicate using a fullselect, or an EXISTS | predicate

Note column function as part of the list.

The standard solution is to create a view which makes the year and month
into real columns (in the view) and then you can group by the column name in
the view.

Mike

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Re: Enhanced JCL processor? (and maybe a few other thoughts)

2008-06-16 Thread Bass, Walter W
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 Subject: Re: Enhanced JCL processor? (and maybe a few other thoughts)
 
 
snip

 6) A new parameter on the DD * and/or DD DATA, SYMBOLS=YES. 
 This tells
 JES2 to examine the instream data, looking for symbols which can be
 resolved, such as SYSUID, HOME, a static system symbol, or 
 any other
 symbol set with the // SET statement, and replace the symbol with its
 value. If there is no value for that symbol, leave the symbol alone.
 
 Yes. This has also been discussed before.

snip

  
 9) Similar to 6 above, but maybe somebody here would like to do it. A
 subsystem which can be used on a DD statement to translate system
 symbols to their value as lines are read from the file (be 
 it a dataset,
 UNIX file, or instream).
 
 There used to be a subsystem (GPSAM?) on the CBT that would be a good
 starting point, although it would be nice if IBM provide a standard
 subsystems for this.
 

Another good starting point might be a program I recently posted to the
CBT as file 779.  It performs pretty much what is described above.  It
reads one or more input DD's, performs substitutions and writes the
files back out to paired output DD's.  The values for the symbols are
retrieved from the JESJCL dataset via a call to SDSF, so there is no
need for passing them on parms or other manipulations.  If the symbols
are known in the JCL, this program can determine their value for the
step in which it executes.

This program does have one very limited situation in which it may not be
able to determine the correct value for a symbol, but it is coded to
detect if that happens and issues a bad return code and a detailed error
report.

Here is an example of how it might be used:
//***
//  SET DB2SUBS=TSTDB2S  
//  SET DB2DBNM=TSTDBNM  
//  SET DB2CRE8=TSTOWNR  
//***
//DOSYMBOL EXEC PGM=SYMBSUB  
//CNTL001I DD *  
  DSN SYSTEM(DB2SUBS)   
 -TERM UTILITY(UNLMYTBL) 
  END
//CNTL001O DD DSN=TERMCARD,DISP=(NEW,PASS),  
//DCB=(LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=0,RECFM=FB), 
//UNIT=VIO,SPACE=(TRK,(1,0))
//CNTL002I DD *  
  UNLOAD TABLESPACE DB2DBNM..MYTBLSPC   
LOCK NO   QUIESCE YES   QUIESCECAT NO   
SELECT * FROM DB2CRE8..MY_DB2_TABLE   
FORMAT USER ()   OUTDDN(SYSREC00)   
//CNTL002O DD DSN=UNLDCARD,DISP=(NEW,PASS),  
//DCB=(LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=0,RECFM=FB), 
//UNIT=VIO,SPACE=(TRK,(1,0))
//SYSOUT   DD SYSOUT=*   
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*   
//SYSUDUMP DD SYSOUT=*   
//***

Bill Bass
United Health Care
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Re: DB2 group by with date functions

2008-06-16 Thread Bass, Walter W
I don't believe this is quite correct.  SUBSTR(), YEAR() and MONTH() are not 
column functions, they are scalar functions.  I believe the problem may be that 
you cannot even use SCALAR functions in the GROUP BY unless you are in version 
8 NEW FUNCTION MODE.  Check to see if your site is on version 8 in 
COMPATIBILITY MODE?

Bill Bass
United Health Care
Greenville, SC

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield
 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:05 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: DB2 group by with date functions
 
 Thanks, Mike.  So using Group by year(xx) is something new 
 in V9 it seems.
 
 Funny, though, I instinctively tried that syntax first and 
 was surprised it didn't work.  
 
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Bell
 Sent: 17. kesäkuuta 2008 0:52
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: DB2 group by with date functions
 
 There isn't one - the fine manual (from V8) says
 grouping-expression cannot include any of the following items:
 | A correlated column
 | A host variable
 | A column function
 | Any function that is nondeterministic or that is defined to 
 have | an
 external action
 | A scalar fullselect
 | A CASE expression whose searched-when-clause contains a quantified |
 predicate, an IN
 predicate using a fullselect, or an EXISTS | predicate
 
 Note column function as part of the list.
 
 The standard solution is to create a view which makes the 
 year and month
 into real columns (in the view) and then you can group by the 
 column name in
 the view.
 
 Mike
 
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Re: Enhanced JCL processor? (and maybe a few other thoughts)

2008-06-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
06/15/2008
   at 09:07 PM, John McKown [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

The above inserts the comma between (e.g) TOM and DICK. Suppose that I 
need a PARM of 80 characters which contains no commas anywhere in it?

Then you run it out to column 71[1], put a continuation character in
column 72[1] and continue it in the next record, per existing rules.


In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
06/15/2008
   at 09:08 PM, John McKown [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I know that BSAM itself doesn't do the folding.

Then it doesn't get folded, because there is no TSO code between you and
the READ or CHECK macro.

What I think happens is that the TSO service

What TSO service? The behavior is the same when you do the READ from your
own code. Is IEBGENER a TSO service?
 

[1] If IBM adds support for VB and long FB then the numbers would be
variable, but the technique would still apply.
 
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Re: STK9310 ( PowderHorn ) ATL and STK9840D tape drives

2008-06-16 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
what version of NCS are you on ?


- ravi.


On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:27:15 -0500, Glenn Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

We have been trying to upgrade the LMU/LCU on our STK9310 ( PowderHorn )
ATL to support STK9840D tape drives.  We currently have microcode level
1.9.26 on the LMU's and we have microcode level 4.2.04 on the LCU's.

For the 2nd weekend we attempted to upgrade the microcode level to 1.9.74
on the LMU's and 4.4.08 on the LCU's.  The installation/activation of the
microcode appears to successful.  The LMU's activate successfully, the LSM's
activate successfully and all of our tape drives work.  We are able to
mount/dismount tape cartridges in all of our tape drives.  However when we
attempt to any type of CAP processing, 'ejects' or 'enters' something goes
very wrong and the entire SILO ( the entire ACS ) appears to become
unresponsive because the STK HSC host software reports that the ACS is
disconnected.

Last weekend we were running on the 'new' LMU/LCU microcode for more than
90 minutes before we attempted to perform a CAP 'enter'.  The robotics
appeared to 'read' 11 tape cartridges before we recieved the ACS
Disconnected message on the z/OS consoles.

Yesterday we were running for about 30 minutes before we attempted to
eject 1 3490 tape cartridge.  The robot had retrieved the cartridge from its
storage cell, moved it to the CAP cell before we received the ACS
Disconnected message on the z/OS consoles.

We have engaged STK software support who says they have not encountered
any problems with this level of microcode.  They are attempting to analyze
some HSC 'trace' data we captured yesterday when the problem occrred.

I was wondering if anyone has STK9840D tape drives installed in a STK9310 (
PowderHorn ) ATL ( not an SL8500 ) and if so, would you be willing to share
with me your LMU/LCU microcode levels and if you do any CAP processing.


Thank you in advance for any help you can give us.

Glenn Miller

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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Clark Morris
On 16 Jun 2008 13:16:44 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

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 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 3:04 PM
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 Subject: Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?
[snip]
 Let me point out that PL/1 lends itself very nicely to 
 processing of SMF 
 data, with offset variables, etc. It's a little more work 
 than just SAS 
 processing, but the various data types in PL/1 can map SMF data 
 variables very nicely. SAS was very effectively priced out of 
 our shop 
 long ago, and they were not willing to negotiate at all on 
 the pricing 
 issue.
 

I would love to try C or PL/I. But all we have are HLASM and COBOL. Oh,
and the current freebies such as Java (which nobody but me has much
familiarity with), REXX, Perl, and maybe some others.

With reference modification available, the only things that are
awkward in COBOL are bit switches and the 1 byte binary fields.  I
have written usage programs that parse the SMF 14/15, 30 and 64
records.  If IBM would just implement the data types in the 2002
standard including the new floating point usages as IEEE, COBOL the
above caveats would go away and COBOL would play nicer with JAVA.
COMP-1 and COMP-2 could be retained for hex floating point so a single
COBOL program could have both types of floating point.  YES there is a
SHARE requirement for this.

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Re: STK9310 ( PowderHorn ) ATL and STK9840D tape drives

2008-06-16 Thread Glenn Miller
We are currently running HSC/MVS R6.1.  We have also installed the STK 
recommanded PTFs that were suppose to provide the support of the 
STK9840D tape drives.

I should have mentioned that we are using COAX attachment to the 
STK/LMU's ( we have a Dual LMU configuration ) via twin VISARA SCON-22L 
controllers.  Also, this ACS is only accessible by our z/OS mainframe, no Open 
Systems servers.

As I said eariler, we are working with SUN/STK software support regarding this 
issue, they are telling us there are other users with the same configuration as 
us who are not experiencing this problem.  I'm interested in 'talking' with any 
site that is running the same configuration as us.

HTH

Glenn Miller

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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Gibney, Dave
   One license and Remote Desktop? Surely you have a under utilized
Intell server some where in the machine room :) 

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  Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:20 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
  Subject: Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?
 
  I see customers stampeding to SAS/PC (or whatever it's called).
  Barry has some notes on how to get the SMF data up to the
mickey-mouse
  servers - even the PDBs I hear. If you pull from the PC end, all
the
  EBCDIC/ASCII, [big|small]- endian issues are resolved.
  Must be cheap too ...
 
  Have a look.
 
  Shane ...
 
 That is a possibility as well and is being discussed. But then we'd
need
 a license for every desktop user (well, that's only 5 of us). But if
 person#1 does the work most of the time, then it would be difficult
for
 person#2 to come in and take over while they are on vacation (or, in
my
 group, at the doctor's).
 
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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
One license and Remote Desktop? Surely you have a under utilized Intell server 
some where in the machine room :) 

And, then you get into a server vs a desktop licence!

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Re: Slow FTP transfer from z/OS to Unix

2008-06-16 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:14:52 -0400, François Paré
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...
I'm running a batch job that does a FTP transfer from a z/OS mainframe to a
LINUX server and the transfer rate is about 20K/sec. If I do the same 
...

I thought I had responded to this but I guess it went into the bit bucket.

We had a quite different situation, but it may shed some light on yours.
We went through 2 datacenter moves over the past couple years.  Each
time there was a set of remote FTP clients and servers that had been 
local but were now a couple thousand miles away.  And each time there
was a small percent of servers some servers (I'm pretty sure they were
always servers) transmission times became terrible.   Transmissions 
to/from similar servers were not much effected by the increased 
distance.

In each case the problem was with the server's TCP/IP windowing 
scheme - whomever set up the server had not enabled window
scaling.  The maximum allowed number of unacknowledged bytes
was far too small to allow efficient transmission over a fast media 
with high latency - a long fat pipe (the official term). 

If you have 2 servers that should be performing similarly but  the 
exchanges with one are very slow, make sure the TCP/IP windowing
has been set up correctly.  Make sure that window scaling has been 
enabled.

BTW, this is not anything recent.  It is  described in RFC 1323 from 
1992.  

Pat O'Keefe 
 

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Re: UR1 vs FIN

2008-06-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:24:08 -0400, Robert Wright wrote:

  OA25428, for example, let current IPCS developers know that a
developer 14 years ago made a data entry field on one panel two
characters too narrow to accept the widest item that can properly be
entered there.  Hopefully, a lot of these irritants can go away as a
consequence of similar FIN APARs.

OTOH, over time I reported two errors in SMP/E very similar to
the above: one where it got an error on a widest possible item,
and later another where it got an error on the narrowest possible
item (in the same field).  Both were fixed in the service stream.
And another that I called a SEV4 on SMP/E's issuing an unclear
error message.  They produced a PTF within 3 weeks that removed
the error entirely.  SMP/E development has pride in craftsmanship.
I hope JCL development is paying attention.

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Re: Network Time Protocol (NTP) client support question

2008-06-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:10:51 -0500, McKown, John wrote:

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chauhan, Jasbir
 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 2:03 PM

 As part of the PCI audit we need to look into adopting NTP
 (network time
 protocol) on the mainframe to ensure all of our 'systems' are
 synchronized.  Can STP provide NTP client capability to maintain 'same
 time' across heterogeneous platforms.

z/OS cannot be an NTP client. However, you can use STP (which is not
NTP!) to maintain the clock on the z and then use z/OS as your NTP
server for the rest of your systems.

There are several sides to this topic:

o AFAIK, there is no way to maintain accurate time on z without
  spending the big bucks for STP (or ETR, if it's still supported).

o With STP, z will probably have the most accurate time of any
  system in your shop.  Logically, z should be the NTP server.

o But, as so often stated in this list, logic must sometimes
  yield to Legacy inertia.  And in the OP's case, it appears
  that Legacy is the existing non-z NTP server.  IBM would
  be well advised to learn to play well with others as an NTP
  client.

-- gil

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Re: Enhanced JCL processor? (and maybe a few other thoughts)

2008-06-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:56:33 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
06/15/2008
   at 09:07 PM, John McKown [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

The above inserts the comma between (e.g) TOM and DICK. Suppose that I
need a PARM of 80 characters which contains no commas anywhere in it?

Then you run it out to column 71[1], put a continuation character in
column 72[1] and continue it in the next record, per existing rules.

As I stated, if columns 71-72 fall within a JCL symbol, the converter
fails to substitute the symbol value.  IBM has told me this is
working as intended.  I'm highly skeptical.  This strikes me
as less likely the effect of what the designer intended and more
likely the effect of an implementor's lack of pride in craftsmanship,
with ex_post_facto specification.

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
06/15/2008
   at 09:08 PM, John McKown said:

I know that BSAM itself doesn't do the folding.

Then it doesn't get folded, because there is no TSO code between you and
the READ or CHECK macro.

What I think happens is that the TSO service

What TSO service? The behavior is the same when you do the READ from your
own code. Is IEBGENER a TSO service?

Ummm.  I was able to circumvent the behavior with a TGET.  What acess
method, then, does TGET use?  Or is TGET itself an access method?

-- gil

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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Ron Hawkins
Ted,

For Windows it is nothing to do with the Hardware Platform - server or desktop, 
but rather the version of the OS you are using. Windows XP and VISTA are 
regarded as desktop products and pricing is based on that. Win 2003 is a server 
product and you will be charged a server price. This is the case even if the 
two OS run on the sane desktop or server.

Ron

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 One license and Remote Desktop? Surely you have a under utilized
 Intell server some where in the machine room :)
 
 And, then you get into a server vs a desktop licence!
 
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Re: Outsourcing hits new low

2008-06-16 Thread Ron Hawkins
Anton,

I can't sit in the senate. I've been a foreigner in every country I've lived
in for the last 15 years. Best I can manage here is to be the Guvna.

I'd be more than happy for my nieces and nephews in Australia and the
Philippines to have a job in a call centre for a US company as they
stimulate my family's' economies. I don't see a problem.

Viagra Stimulus Checks, War arsenals, Nuclear bombs... WTF are you
rabbitting about...

Ron

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Anton Britz
 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:16 AM
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 Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Outsourcing hits new low
 
 Hi Ron,
 
 Yes, because the Viagra Stimulus Checks would then stimulate your own
 Economy, taxes, roads etc. (Check the mess Arnie is in currently..
 Budget
 deficit wise but yes, I saw his wife on the Tim Russert show yesterday,
 talking
 from Sun Valley.. Ever been in Sun Valley ? )
 
 Alternatively, you have to sit in the Senate for 50 years, to become a
 Chairman  of an appropriations committee in order to channel a few
 Billion to
 your local Mom and Pop shop.  Currently your local Mom and Pop shop
 needs to be manufacturing bombs to be able to pay the groceries.
 
 Note: What's going to eventually happen to all the bombs/Nuclear
 heads
 being manufactured because Cabella's can not sell them yet or my
 brother-in-
 law could not buy some this weekend. ( He farms in Africa and was
 impressed
 with the war arsenal you can buy in the USA stores. The computer stores
 are
 all closing down)
 
 Anton
 

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Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?

2008-06-16 Thread Mark van der Eynden
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:25:07 -0500, McKown, John 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That is a possibility as well and is being discussed. But then we'd need
a license for every desktop user (well, that's only 5 of us). But if
person#1 does the work most of the time, then it would be difficult for
person#2 to come in and take over while they are on vacation (or, in my
group, at the doctor's).

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We have a little batch process that fires up on our (single) MXG SAS PC every 
10 mins during business hours and runs any 'ad hoc' work submitted by the 
users.

Basically the user FTPs his request/program from the mainframe to the SAS 
PC. The SAS PC runs it and Emails the results back to the user. 

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