date:20100312

Re: Comparing - ISPF (3.12 and 3.13) with Comparex

2010-03-12 Thread Richards, Robert B.

Robert,

I will come to John's defense and I have been employed by Compuware Corporation 
(look me up) for the last two plus years. In my years of being a subscriber to 
ISVCOSTS, I have *NEVER* seen John sell or recommend an IBM solution over 
another ISV. John has taken his non-partisan role *very seriously*. He 
facilitates discussion, he surveys and delivers those survey results 
accurately, regardless of whether it makes IBM look good or bad.

In the interest of full disclosure, I have met John on numerous occasions in 
various cities, spoken to him on the phone on dozens of issues, and exchanged 
perhaps 100+ emails. I have sat across the table and looked into the man's eyes 
and perceived that I was dealing with an honest, upright man of good moral 
character. Enough about John.

I also know Mark extremely well. Mark drew an observation, but he also left 
room for being wrong. In this case, he probably is. As an aside, anyone that 
has followed my posts over the years would swear I was on Mainstar's payroll at 
some point in time. :-) But alas, I never was. I just believed in Ron and his 
catalog product. And I have never worked for Al Sherkow either, but I love his 
LCS product and promote it every chance I get. To date, neither Al nor Ron has 
every given me financial compensation for my evangelism!

Simone obviously feels strongly about File-Aid. Rightly so, as it has been a 
market leader and best of breed. I appreciate passion in this industry. We need 
more of it. :-)

Bob

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yet ISV are not allowed to see anything including expurgated digests.

enough said

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Professional probity on the list

2010-03-12 Thread Shane Ginnane

Another of those recurrent themes ...

As per some others, I happen to be a little sensitive to undeclared corporate 
allegiances.
Declare it, and we can all deal with it our own way. Hide it, and you can 
expect to get dissed.

Simple, really.

Misunderstandings happen - hopefully they resolve themselves without too much 
animosity.

Shane ...

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Re: Comparing - ISPF (3.12 and 3.13) with Comparex

2010-03-12 Thread Peter Nuttall

quote
Simone obviously feels strongly about File-Aid. Rightly so, as it has been 
a market leader and best of breed. I appreciate passion in this industry. 
We need more of it. :-)
/quote

Hear Hear  It's just a shame there aren't more decision making 
managers with the same passion  Or am I being cynical  :-) ... Ahh 
well  It's Friday ...
 
 
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Re: IRXANCHR - Number of environments

2010-03-12 Thread Terri E Shaffer

We run GDDR and OPS/MVS, we current have it set at IRXANCHR ENTRYNUM=2000 since 
last April for all tasks.  We have not seen any adverse effect.

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We have been running with 400 specified since sometime back in '03 with no
problems until yesterday.  We are a GDPS and SA/390 shop so there can be a
lot of autotasks running during some configurations changes. Yesterday we
got message  
CNM416I REXX INTERPRETER ENVIRONMENT INITIALIZATION FAILED FOR TASK
AUTBAT26, RETURN CODE = 20, REASON CODE = 24 
during a reconfig we were running that caused some minor problems for a
while. IBM has recommended that we up IRXANCHR to avoid this in the future.
 One comment was It is not uncommon for customers
to define 2000 or 3000 rexx environments on the system, and this serves 
not only netview/sa/gdps but other applications that use rexx. 
Q1: Is anyone out there running IRXANCHR in that range?  
Q2: If the default IRXANCHR is that high, is there any significant resource
(i.e, storage, etc.) being wasted on the system as a whole or per address space?
Q3: Does anyone run a default IRXANCHR with one value and a customized
IRXANCHR with a higher value that is STEPLIB'd to GDPS, SA/390, NetView
tasks?  

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Re: IBM Plans to Discontinue REDBOOK Series

2010-03-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

In
1979091511-1268093909-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-3009112...@bda026.bisx.prod.on.blackberry,
on 03/09/2010
   at 12:18 AM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca said:

Perhaps you think that is funny?

Yes.

When I make a misstatement on this site, I get dinged all the time.

Most of the time you get a free pass.
 
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Re: CSV and Duplicate ALIASes

2010-03-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

In 201003090613.o296dtii008...@mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au, on 03/09/2010
   at 05:14 PM, Greg Price greg.pr...@optushome.com.au said:

The directory entry for FRED contains the name,
addressing mode, and entry point offset for WOMBAT,

No; the DE for FRED contains the EP for FRED; you need the DE for WOMBAT
to find the EP for WOMBAT.

so the directory entry for WOMBAT is not needed to
make the major CDE.

Because the major CDE has the EP for FRED, not for WOMBAT.

Now suppose JOE the other WOMBAT is loaded.
Again we will get a minor CDE for JOE pointing to
a different major CDE also called WOMBAT.

You've got major and minor swithched. The OP said that WOMBAT was the
alias name. You have major CDE's for FRED and JOE, minor CDE's for WOMBAT.

BTW, if the application is unauthorized then DE= might solve the original
problem.

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Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

In b53f38421003081137h70e103cfs85330fcffb40e...@mail.gmail.com, on
03/08/2010
   at 02:37 PM, George Henke gahe...@gmail.com said:

What is not just or equitable is for IBM to view  EDS' efficiency and
profits from economies of scale as a loss of revenue to themselves
(IBM) and then create a pricing scheme that appropriates those profits
from such efficiencies for themselves.

The hardware and operations sides may be a case of economy of scale, but
on the software side the story is very different. It's by no means clear
who was appropriating whose profits from whom.

Since when have monopolies ever been interested in efficiencies except
for their own profitability.

That applies to the megacenters as much as it does to IBM. Any well run
business is concerned with it's own profitability, and only concerned with
the profitability of its customers and suppliers to the extent that they
impact its own.

Monopolies do not optimize the efficient allocation of resources in the
economy.  They maximize their own profitablity at the expense of
efficient allocation of resources in the economy.

Albert Einstein admonished to make things as simple as possible, but no
simpler. The Devil is in the details. Google for natural monopoly. 

As for artificial monopolicies, they can abuse their powers but abuse is
not intrinsic.

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Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

In ofeec49b15.34ea1afd-on852576df.0039741b-852576df.003fb...@us.ibm.com,
on 03/07/2010
   at 06:35 AM, Timothy Sipples timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com said:

There are, and very many.

You're not speaking the same language that he is.

In my previous post it should be obvious that smaller means anybody
with capacity below a hypothetical non-kneecapped 7-way System z9 BC. 

Just as it should be obvious that Peter means something *much* smaller
than that, and that he is talking about envirnmentals and price, not just
CPU capacity.

so again I have no idea where you're getting your information.

The problem isn't that your information differs, the problem is that your
nomenclature differs.

Have mainframe technologies ever been more affordable? Heck no. (I've
looked up a lot of historical prices.) 

What was the historical price of a P/390?

And it's long past time we stop
perpetuating mainframe pricing myths, because it isn't helping anyone.

Neither is talking past each other. Perhaps it would be better to stop
using the adjective small and start using numbers, e.g., total hardware
price $50K.

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Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

In b53f38421003080735x3b3d4fadt96f4c714c9775...@mail.gmail.com, on
03/08/2010
   at 10:35 AM, George Henke gahe...@gmail.com said:

I don't see anyone complaining about 64-bit memory being to much and
asking to bring back Expanded Storage and paging.

Apples and oranges. AFAIK the 308x boxen were the last to have true
expanded storage instead of arbitrarily labelling some of the central
storage as expanded. Were IBM to design a large BORAM at prices
significantly less than RAM prices then I for one would like to see it
available as expanded storage for 64-bit systems. What I wouldn't like to
see is artificially carving up the central storage as was done from the
3090 on.

As to paging, we still have it. With enough central memory the rates are
fairly low except during, e.g., dump capture. What nobody wants is
excessive paging rates, which you could only bring *back* if you had
already experienced them. The last time that I recall seeing excessive
paging rates was when a fixed-head disk was out of service for two weeks
due to a head crash. 
 
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Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

In
1228950277-1267928263-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-10127518...@bda026.bisx.prod.on.blackberry,
on 03/07/2010
   at 02:17 AM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca said:

A rose is a rose is a rose.

But a rose is not a sardine.

MSUs are just MIPS multiplied by a (marketting) constant or 5.

No.
 
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Re: Migrating from z/OS V1.4 to z/OS V1.11

2010-03-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

In listserv%201003090810293526.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 03/09/2010
   at 08:10 AM, Steve Dover steve.do...@ccbcc.com said:

After reading a thread from May and June of 2007 (started I believe by
John  Matson), can I use the V1.4 OS to drive the install of the V1.11 OS
on the new machine?

You're facing several issues. You'll need a new SMP/E for sure. IBM claims
that you need the COD (driver system), and may not support you if you run
into problems driving the install from z/OS 1.4. They might be using new
facilities in, e.g., ISPF, for the CPAC dialogs.

I did see in the thread issues with the USS space, but I have  had USS
issues before.

ITYM Unix; USS is something different. The big issue will be that they are
pushing us towards zFS and you may want to switch everything even if it is
not required. Also, pay close attention to the setup for *FS sharing.

Read the migration documentation, especially with regard to TCP/IP.

Go over your operator instructions; there are new commands and address
spaces to worry about.

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Re: IBM Plans to Discontinue REDBOOK Series

2010-03-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

In
119504539-1268167688-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-12785895...@bda026.bisx.prod.on.blackberry,
on 03/09/2010
   at 08:48 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca said:

Even after three IBM'rs said it wasn't happening,

FSVO three. I saw several comments from IBM employees that they didn't
know of any such plans; I did *not* see three comments that they knew for
a fact that it wasn't true.
 
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Re: Comparing - ISPF (3.12 and 3.13) with Comparex

2010-03-12 Thread Farley, Peter x23353

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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B.
 Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 6:56 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: Comparing - ISPF (3.12 and 3.13) with Comparex
Snipped 
 As an aside, anyone that has followed my posts 
 over the years would swear I was on Mainstar's payroll at 
 some point in time. :-) But alas, I never was. I just 
 believed in Ron and his catalog product. And I have never 
 worked for Al Sherkow either, but I love his LCS product and 
 promote it every chance I get. To date, neither Al nor Ron 
 has every given me financial compensation for my evangelism!

 Simone obviously feels strongly about File-Aid. Rightly so, 
 as it has been a market leader and best of breed. I 
 appreciate passion in this industry. We need more of it. :-)

And as a perusal of the archives would show, I have been a sometimes
vocal proponent of the Macro4 products for a number of years, and I do
not have nor have I ever had any connection to Macro4 except as a
customer.

And I am far from the only one on this list who has promoted and
advertised Dave Cole's products.

Some of us are passionate about our tools, and we like to share.
Posting from a private email address does not negate that passion.

'Nuff said.

Peter

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Re: IBM Plans to Discontinue REDBOOK Series - NOT! (Redux)

2010-03-12 Thread John Eells


Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote:

In
119504539-1268167688-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-12785895...@bda026.bisx.prod.on.blackberry,
on 03/09/2010
   at 08:48 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca said:


Even after three IBM'rs said it wasn't happening,


FSVO three. I saw several comments from IBM employees that they didn't
know of any such plans; I did *not* see three comments that they knew for
a fact that it wasn't true.
 


Shmuel, to repeat myself: There are no current plans to discontinue 
funding for Redbooks.


This seems to be a topic that just won't die.  I'd sure like to be able 
to devote time to other things than this...


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SSH ICSF is not working

2010-03-12 Thread MONTERO ROMERO, ENRIQUE ELOI

Hi to all,

We have the ICSF running as an STC in our environment.
=== CSFM400I CRYPTOGRAPHY - SERVICES ARE NOW AVAILABLE.

I am trying to SHH against a linux server in BATCH.

//SSHCOMM  EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,  
// PARM=('SH /ZOSAA/bin/ssh -vvv r...@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ls')

But I am getting this message:

OpenSSH_3.8.1p1, OpenSSL 0.9.7d 17 Mar 2004 
debug1: Reading configuration data /u/myuserid/.ssh/config  
 
debug1: Applying options for *  
debug3: Seeding PRNG from /usr/lib/ssh/ssh-rand-helper  
(rand child) Couldn't exec '/usr/lib/ssh/ssh-rand-helper': EDC5129I No such file
ssh-rand-helper child produced insufficient data


On the other side,

/ZOSAA/usr/lib/ssh/ is a link to /usr/lib/ssh/

lrwxrwxrwx   1 xxx    12 May 30  2008 usr - $VERSION/usr

MYUSRXX:/: cd /usr/lib/ssh  
MYUSRXX:/ZOSAA/usr/lib/ssh: ls -l   
total 12992  
drwxr-xr-x   2 XXX  XXX 8192 Oct 30 11:41 IBM
-rwxr-xr-x   2 XXX  XXX   372736 Oct 30 11:41 sftp-server
-rwxr-xr-x   2 XXX  XXX  2748416 Oct 30 11:40 ssh-askpass
-rwsr-xr-x   2 XXX  XXX  2658304 Oct 30 11:41 ssh-keysign
-rwxr-xr-x   2 XXX  XXX   864256 Oct 30 11:41 ssh-rand-helper
MYUSRXX:/ZOSAA/usr/lib/ssh:  

Why if the ICSF is running, I am still getting the ssh-rand-helper instead of 
the ICSF ?

Best regards, and happy weekend.
Enrique MOntero

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Re: Comparing - ISPF (3.12 and 3.13) with Comparex

2010-03-12 Thread Ed Finnell

 
In a message dated 3/12/2010 5:57:09 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
robert.richa...@opm.gov writes:

a subscriber to ISVCOSTS, I have *NEVER* seen John sell or  recommend an 
IBM solution over another ISV. John has taken his non-partisan  role *very 
seriously*. He facilitates discussion, he surveys and delivers  those survey 
results accurately, regardless of whether it 
 

Right. It's another source of information; good, bad or  indifferent. It 
helped us make informed decisions about products and  replacements as the 
winds of change  occurred.


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Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-12 Thread Martin Packer

Seymour, wrong by about a decade :-) ...

3090 was first to have true Expanded Storage, 9021 the last. With CMOS we 
had the partition real memory thing.

Unless it's ME that is wrong by about a decade. :-)

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Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-03-12 Thread Howard Brazee

On 11 Mar 2010 10:37:24 -0800, sredst...@googlemail.com (simone
redstock) wrote:

Most mainframe shops own File/AID. This has both an online and batch element
to it. File/AID batch is very powerful and we have replaced many of our
Easytrieve jobs with it. It performs better (less CPU) and is far easier to
maintain. even some of our junior team members are proficient in File/AID
batch.

Have a look into your tools portfolio. If you have File/AID then it's a no
brainer.

Am I missing something, or are you saying File/AID makes sense as a
replacement for Easytrieve? Certainly not IMS/IDMS reports.Do
you use it for other reports?

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Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-03-12 Thread Howard Brazee

On 11 Mar 2010 14:44:31 -0800, wgshi...@benekeith.com (Greg Shirey)
wrote:

Most mainframe shops own File/AID???  I didn't know that, but I do know
mine does not.  


Mine doesn't.   Which could explain why I don't remember it having
Easytrieve type reporting capabilities, those could be new.

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Re: SSH ICSF is not working

2010-03-12 Thread Kirk Wolf

Read the FAQ in the IBM Ported Tools for z/OS User's Guide on setting
up ICSF and /dev/random.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:04 AM, MONTERO ROMERO, ENRIQUE ELOI
enriqueeloi.mont...@servifactory.com wrote:
 Hi to all,

 We have the ICSF running as an STC in our environment.
 === CSFM400I CRYPTOGRAPHY - SERVICES ARE NOW AVAILABLE.

 I am trying to SHH against a linux server in BATCH.

 //SSHCOMM  EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,
 //             PARM=('SH /ZOSAA/bin/ssh -vvv r...@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ls')

 But I am getting this message:

 OpenSSH_3.8.1p1, OpenSSL 0.9.7d 17 Mar 2004
 debug1: Reading configuration data /u/myuserid/.ssh/config
 debug1: Applying options for *
 debug3: Seeding PRNG from /usr/lib/ssh/ssh-rand-helper
 (rand child) Couldn't exec '/usr/lib/ssh/ssh-rand-helper': EDC5129I No such 
 file
 ssh-rand-helper child produced insufficient data


 On the other side,

 /ZOSAA/usr/lib/ssh/ is a link to /usr/lib/ssh/

 lrwxrwxrwx   1 xxx            12 May 30  2008 usr - $VERSION/usr

 MYUSRXX:/: cd /usr/lib/ssh
 MYUSRXX:/ZOSAA/usr/lib/ssh: ls -l
 total 12992
 drwxr-xr-x   2 XXX  XXX     8192 Oct 30 11:41 IBM
 -rwxr-xr-x   2 XXX  XXX   372736 Oct 30 11:41 sftp-server
 -rwxr-xr-x   2 XXX  XXX  2748416 Oct 30 11:40 ssh-askpass
 -rwsr-xr-x   2 XXX  XXX  2658304 Oct 30 11:41 ssh-keysign
 -rwxr-xr-x   2 XXX  XXX   864256 Oct 30 11:41 ssh-rand-helper
 MYUSRXX:/ZOSAA/usr/lib/ssh: 

 Why if the ICSF is running, I am still getting the ssh-rand-helper instead of 
 the ICSF ?

 Best regards, and happy weekend.
 Enrique MOntero

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Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-03-12 Thread Dana Mitchell

On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:11:11 -0600, Paul Peplinski 
paul.peplin...@wpsic.com wrote:

There is one product (IBM Migration Utility) that claims to support EZT,
meaning it can convert EZT to COBOL on the fly and you can continue to 
code
using EZT syntax if you wish. 

IBM was reselling Foundation's PENGIEZT product as Migration Utility.  I 
participated in the conversion from EZT to IBM Migration Utility a number of 
years ago at a former employer.  I wasn't privy to specifics about how well it 
handled the language differences, etc. although I don't recall any glaring 
large 
problems with the conversion.We had a shop built from several acquisitions, 
and we ended up with at least 4 very non-compatible EZT environments.  At 
that time, the design of IBM MU was such that made supporting the different 
run time options sets very cumbersome.  Pehaps it's better now.

Dana

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DSNDIST 91% CPU

2010-03-12 Thread Jorge Arueira Campos

Hi all !!!

My team of z/OS 1.8 have problem with DB2 1.8, with the address space
DSNDIST 91% of CPU(Z9-BC-12MSU) , and DB2CONNECT in client.

Help wellcome

Thanks

Jorge Arueira Campos

Z/OS - Support - POLITEC
São Paulo - Brazil

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Re: IBM Plans to Discontinue REDBOOK Series - NOT! (Redux)

2010-03-12 Thread R.S.

John Eells pisze:

Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote:

In
119504539-1268167688-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-12785895...@bda026.bisx.prod.on.blackberry,

on 03/09/2010
at 08:48 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca said:

Even after three IBM'rs said it wasn't happening,

FSVO three. I saw several comments from IBM employees that they didn't
know of any such plans; I did *not* see three comments that they knew for
a fact that it wasn't true.

Shmuel, to repeat myself: There are no current plans to discontinue
funding for Redbooks.

This seems to be a topic that just won't die. I'd sure like to be able
to devote time to other things than this...

Again?
First you wanted to remove MLA, now you back to very bad idea of closing
REDBOOK project? Why?

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Re: IBM Plans to Discontinue REDBOOK Series - NOT! (Redux)

2010-03-12 Thread William Janulin

Is there any chance that we can put this subject to bed, once and for
all???

Bill Janulin
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Subject: Re: IBM Plans to Discontinue REDBOOK Series - NOT! (Redux)

John Eells pisze:
 Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote:
 In

119504539-1268167688-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-127858958
2...@bda026.bisx.prod.on.blackberry, 

 on 03/09/2010
at 08:48 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca said:

 Even after three IBM'rs said it wasn't happening,

 FSVO three. I saw several comments from IBM employees that they
didn't
 know of any such plans; I did *not* see three comments that they knew
for
 a fact that it wasn't true.
  
 
 Shmuel, to repeat myself: There are no current plans to discontinue 
 funding for Redbooks.
 
 This seems to be a topic that just won't die.  I'd sure like to be
able 
 to devote time to other things than this...
 

Again?
First you wanted to remove MLA, now you back to very bad idea of closing

REDBOOK project? Why?

(it IS a joke)
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Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-03-12 Thread McKown, John

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 On 11 Mar 2010 14:44:31 -0800, wgshi...@benekeith.com (Greg Shirey)
 wrote:

 Most mainframe shops own File/AID???  I didn't know that, 
 but I do know
 mine does not.  

 Mine doesn't.   Which could explain why I don't remember it having
 Easytrieve type reporting capabilities, those could be new.

I am not very familiar with EasyTrieve (we have it). ICETOOL has some nice 
reporting tools in it also. What would be really nice would be a way to process 
a COBOL copybook to create ICETOOL symbols.

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Re: Comparing - ISPF (3.12 and 3.13) with Comparex

2010-03-12 Thread Mark Zelden

On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:29:59 -0500, Galambos, Robert
robert.galam...@compuware.com wrote:

1) there is NO one with the last name of redstock in the compuware directory.

Of course.  *IF* someone wanted to remain anonymous, they wouldn't
use their real name (again, not saying that is the case).  


2) so it seems that someone who likes a product, is set up for questioning
because of such


3) this list is for an open discussion. Good or bad. I normally refrain
from posting unless there is a question pertaining to some compuware tool.
BUT questioning someone just because they like ANY product works, no matter
who makes it..


snip

Relax. 

I think people who have seen my posts over the last 12+ years know 
that I don't do that.  I don't think I have ever done that before either, but 
I saw some red flags in the few posts I saw and as Bob wrote, was making
an observation.   People would be naive to think that it never happens
in public forums. 

I already wrote a note to the vendors in my other post that my comments
had nothing to do with any of the products mentioned.   I didn't expect a
vendor to respond.  I did expect a post from simone telling me that I 
was full of it or perhaps an offline response.   I'm sure simone can 
stick up for himself.

5) I suggest that everyone here make up their own minds about who an
 poster is etc.

I certainly agree there.  There is enough input from the user community on
this list and others for people to make up their own minds.

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Re: DSNDIST 91% CPU

2010-03-12 Thread Richbourg, Claude

Check to see if you have a Workload Manager Service Class definition for the 
DDF work,(distributed).
You may want to throttle that back some.

Hope that helps,
Claude

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Subject: DSNDIST 91% CPU

Hi all !!!

My team of z/OS 1.8 have problem with DB2 1.8, with the address space
DSNDIST 91% of CPU(Z9-BC-12MSU) , and DB2CONNECT in client.

Help wellcome

Thanks

Jorge Arueira Campos

Z/OS - Support - POLITEC
São Paulo - Brazil

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Any FOCUS performance guru's here?

2010-03-12 Thread Dana Mitchell

I'm looking at a FOCUS job  (FOCUS from Information Builders)  that is starting 
to run a really long time.   There doesn't seem to be any contention, and if it 
runs without FOCSU (simultaneous Users) turned on, it runs in just a few 
minutes.  But running with FOCSU, it can take hours.  Has anyone here 
dabbled in this area?

thanks
Dana  

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Re: DSNDIST 91% CPU

2010-03-12 Thread Ed Finnell

 
In a message dated 3/12/2010 9:17:53 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
richbourg.cla...@mail.dc.state.fl.us writes:

Check to see if you have a Workload Manager Service Class  definition for 
the DDF work,(distributed).
You may want to throttle that  back some.



DB/2 Tuning course? DSNZPARM has parms to  throttle queries and bufferpools 
are critical. 
Craig Mullins also notes in his book(s)  70% of performance problems are 
'bad' SQL queries.




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Re: IBM Plans to Discontinue REDBOOK Series - NOT! (Redux)

2010-03-12 Thread Lori Bideaux

I am the manager for the Redbooks team.. and it IS a rumor. There is no
credence to it. We have been around for 40 years and hope to be around for
40 more.

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Re: IBM Plans to Discontinue REDBOOK Series - NOT! (Redux)

2010-03-12 Thread Mark Baron

Now that Lori has chimed in that the REDBOOKS are definitely NOT being
discontinued, let's all stop, take a deep breath, and move on.

Have a good weekend all 

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Re: SSH ICSF is not working

2010-03-12 Thread Hayim Sokolsky

A few points here...

The ICSF STC is not the API itself. It is the I/O server that reads and 
writes to the PKDS and CKDS.
Use of the ICSF APIs can be allowed or disallowed by RACF (and Top Secret 
and ACF/2).
-  You didn't say if the CSFSERV class was active or inactive in your 
security product.
-  You didn't say if the CSFSERV CSFRNG (Random number generate) was 
permitted.

But in any case, the Open_SSH ported tool - was not coded to interface 
with ICSF, as far as I know.

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Hi to all,

We have the ICSF running as an STC in our environment.
=== CSFM400I CRYPTOGRAPHY - SERVICES ARE NOW AVAILABLE.

I am trying to SHH against a linux server in BATCH.

//SSHCOMM  EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH, 
// PARM=('SH /ZOSAA/bin/ssh -vvv r...@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ls')

But I am getting this message:

OpenSSH_3.8.1p1, OpenSSL 0.9.7d 17 Mar 2004  
debug1: Reading configuration data /u/myuserid/.ssh/config  
debug1: Applying options for *  
debug3: Seeding PRNG from /usr/lib/ssh/ssh-rand-helper  
(rand child) Couldn't exec '/usr/lib/ssh/ssh-rand-helper': EDC5129I No 
such file
ssh-rand-helper child produced insufficient data  


On the other side,

/ZOSAA/usr/lib/ssh/ is a link to /usr/lib/ssh/

lrwxrwxrwx   1 xxx    12 May 30  2008 usr - $VERSION/usr

MYUSRXX:/: cd /usr/lib/ssh 
MYUSRXX:/ZOSAA/usr/lib/ssh: ls -l 
total 12992 
drwxr-xr-x   2 XXX  XXX 8192 Oct 30 11:41 IBM 
-rwxr-xr-x   2 XXX  XXX   372736 Oct 30 11:41 sftp-server 
-rwxr-xr-x   2 XXX  XXX  2748416 Oct 30 11:40 ssh-askpass 
-rwsr-xr-x   2 XXX  XXX  2658304 Oct 30 11:41 ssh-keysign 
-rwxr-xr-x   2 XXX  XXX   864256 Oct 30 11:41 ssh-rand-helper
MYUSRXX:/ZOSAA/usr/lib/ssh:  

Why if the ICSF is running, I am still getting the ssh-rand-helper instead 
of the ICSF ?

Best regards, and happy weekend.
Enrique MOntero

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Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-03-12 Thread Andy Robertson

I am not very familiar with EasyTrieve (we have it). ICETOOL has some 
nice reporting tools in it also. What would be really nice would be a way 
to process a COBOL copybook to create ICETOOL symbols.
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HSM utilization of 3490 emulated 9840D tape?

2010-03-12 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]

I'm currently migrating HSM data from 9840As to 9840Ds. Given the increase in 
capacity I would have expected 3:1 consolidation ratio. That doesn't seem to be 
the case.

I did increase the OCDS Maxlrecl to 6144 as recommended.
 Setsysextendedttoc(y) is also implemented.
 Tapeutilizationwas increased to 8000 from 2200 per STK's recommendation.
Unittype(3490) is specified, which according to the manual nullifies use of the 
Capacitymode parameter..

However the number of valid blocks has only increased by a relatively small 
amount.

Following is 9840A
VOLSERUNITVOL  REUSE VALID   PCTVOL   
   NAME   TYPE   CAPACITYBLKS  VALID  STATUS
H000973490   SPILL 0003455900 0003890039 100FULL 

9840D
E202253490   SPILL 0003455900 0004193904 100FULL

That's only a 10% increase. Am I missing something here? 

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Thank You,
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Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-03-12 Thread Andy Robertson

On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:10:18 -0600, McKown, John 
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote:

I am not very familiar with EasyTrieve (we have it). ICETOOL has some nice 
reporting tools in it also. What would be really nice would be a way to process 
a COBOL copybook to create ICETOOL symbols.


COBDFSYM, from the Tools  Tricks page???

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Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-03-12 Thread Ron Hawkins

I'd say it's more like 50% based on shops I've visited over the years.

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 On 11 Mar 2010 14:44:31 -0800, wgshi...@benekeith.com (Greg Shirey)
 wrote:
 
 Most mainframe shops own File/AID???  I didn't know that, but I do know
 mine does not.
 
 
 Mine doesn't.   Which could explain why I don't remember it having
 Easytrieve type reporting capabilities, those could be new.
 
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Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-03-12 Thread Frank Yaeger

John McKown wrote on 03/12/2010 07:10:18 AM:
 I am not very familiar with EasyTrieve (we have it). ICETOOL has
 some nice reporting tools in it also. What would be really nice
 would be a way to process a COBOL copybook to create ICETOOL symbols.

John,

See the Create DFSORT Symbols from COBOL Copybook smart DFSORT trick
for a REXX that you can use for that:

http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=114uid=isg3T794

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Specialties: JOINKEYS, FINDREP, WHEN=GROUP, ICETOOL, Symbols, Migration

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Re: SSH ICSF is not working

2010-03-12 Thread Kirk Wolf

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Hayim Sokolsky hsokol...@dtcc.com wrote:
 A few points here...

 The ICSF STC is not the API itself. It is the I/O server that reads and
 writes to the PKDS and CKDS.
 Use of the ICSF APIs can be allowed or disallowed by RACF (and Top Secret
 and ACF/2).
 -  You didn't say if the CSFSERV class was active or inactive in your
 security product.
 -  You didn't say if the CSFSERV CSFRNG (Random number generate) was
 permitted.

 But in any case, the Open_SSH ported tool - was not coded to interface
 with ICSF, as far as I know.

 Hayim

Hayim,

While you are correct - OpenSSH doesn't use ICSF apis directly, it
*does* use /dev/random (z/OS 1.7 and later) to get a secure random
number, which is critical to the secure cryptography that is does (in
software, using OpenSSL).

If your SSHD job and SSH client jobs have read access to /dev/random,
then they will be *much* faster to start.  The fallback is to use the
ssh-rand-helper program, which is very slow, expensive and *not*
very secure.

To use /dev/random under z/OS, the userid must have access to certain
ICSF SAF profiles (CSFSERV CSFRNG).   Its all documented in the Ported
Tools User Guide, you just have to RTM.

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

PS its a pity that it is such a hassle on z/OS to provide a
/dev/random device to *all* users, all the time.   Modern *nix
operating systems all have a software implemented /dev/random device
that uses a widely accepted algorithm to provide secure random
entropy.   Good random entropy is the key to secure crypto, and to
require crypto coprocessors on z/OS is B.S.

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Re: SSH ICSF is not working

2010-03-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:52:33 -0500, Hayim Sokolsky wrote:

But in any case, the Open_SSH ported tool - was not coded to interface
with ICSF, as far as I know.

Except through /dev/random?  A quick validity check might be:

head /dev/random | od -x

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Re: HSM utilization of 3490 emulated 9840D tape?

2010-03-12 Thread John Kelly

David,
I do believe that you hit it on the head with the 'Unittype(3490) 
is specified, which according to the manual nullifies use of the 
Capacitymode parameter..' observation. I know that could not get 9840A to 
qualify for Capacitymode but I'm not surprise that STK hasn't bellied up 
to responding. Since you've mentioned HSM BACKUP tapes, there should be no 
doubt about 'take away' being involved. Have you looked at what FATS says 
about  the tape usage? 
Since we are getting away from the STK 'emulation' , we haven't seen any 
discrepences. 

Jack Kelly
202-502-2390 (Office)

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Re: SSH ICSF is not working

2010-03-12 Thread Kirk Wolf

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
 On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:52:33 -0500, Hayim Sokolsky wrote:

But in any case, the Open_SSH ported tool - was not coded to interface
with ICSF, as far as I know.

 Except through /dev/random?  A quick validity check might be:

    head /dev/random | od -x

 -- gil


Exactly!
(but use the same userid as the batch job to ensure that the SAF
permissions are identical)

Kirk Wolf
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Real CPU Id

2010-03-12 Thread John P. Baker

Can anyone advise on the proper means to obtain the real CPU id on z/OS?

 

John P. Baker


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