Re: Mainframe Executive article on the death of tape
In IBM parlance, MTTR is Mean Time to Recovery. It wasn't in 1981, when I had the 'privilege' of doing availability reporting. The terminology has changed a bit since then; I don't have to worry about/do it anymore. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Re: link edit question
Hello, Can you answer my question with the following information please. Thank you. My job is : USER1.PROD.LINK(TEST1) : //TEST1 JOB CLASS=A,MSGLEVEL=(1,1), MSGCLASS=X // JCLLIB ORDER=(USER1.PROD.LINK) //TST1EXEC TLINK,MEMBER=TST1 * USER1.PROD.LINK(TLINK) procedure: //ZLINK PROC MEMBER=UNKNOWN, // LIB=USER1.PROD, // HEADER=LINKHED //ZLINK EXEC PGM=HEWL,PARM='MAP,LIST,LET,NORENT,NCAL' //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSLIN DD DISP=SHR,DSN=LIB..LINK(HEADER) // DD DISP=SHR,DSN=LIB..LINK(MEMBER) //SYSLMOD DD DISP=SHR,DSN=LIB..LOAD(MEMBER) //SYSTEM DD DISP=SHR,DSN=DXC.V2R3M1.DXCMOD1 //SEGMENT DD DISP=SHR,DSN=LIB..RESA.NCAL // DD DISP=SHR,DSN=LIB..DCSH.NCAL // DD DISP=SHR,DSN=LIB..RESP.NCAL // DD DISP=SHR,DSN=LIB..DCSY.NCAL // PEND * USER1.PROD.LINK (TST1): INCLUDE SEGMENT(YBY402) INCLUDE SEGMENT(YEA102) INCLUDE SEGMENT(YBY402) For example If i write the YBY402 twice it does not give any error in the TEST1 job. I want to get a jcl error if i write a record twice in TST1 member. Because there are thousands of lines in the TST1 member, some segments can be entered multiple times accidentaly. I hope i can explain the problem this time. Thank you very much. Regards, Supra -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Re: SMF Question
I'm sure you've realized this by now, but D A,L doesn't show all of the tasks that are running. We make a command scripting product and one of the biggest questions we always get is How do I shut it all down? There are many USS threads running and there are parts of JES running that all need to be shut down correctly to really get to where you can without a doubt say that NOTHING IS RUNNING. It's difficult to say what is still up at your site, but if you have not shut down JES and/or USS completely then you should start there. I can send you the commands to do it smoothly, or I can send you a special little load module that you can use that will kill all of the running processes at shutdown time to make USS much easier (and quicker) to stop. Sometimes sites don't set up their system tasks correctly, or will forget to authorize things so they end up with address spaces floating around that are still trying to stop (or even worse, keep going). Normally it's pretty simple to figure out what is still running that's causing your problem, and it's not unusual for the security system to get upset when tasks are still running when he isn't. :) If you contact me offline we can discuss how to go about getting it located and shutdown smoothly. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mainframe Executive article on the death of tape
Hal Merritt pisze: No assumptions. This is all experience/observations from several iterations of DR plans and differing management objectives. Yes, assumptions. You observed several DR plans and made assumptions. I would call the plans old in terms of technology. PTAM is for dinos, data transfer to remote site rules. PTAM means day(s) of RPO and many hours of RTO (terms explained earlier). Remote data transfer could mean 0 to seconds of RPO and few hours to minutes of RTO. In fact you try to compare 20-years old Ford F to new Chevrolet Corvette. In many (most?) tape solutions (to include ATL), tapes are physically ejected, manually boxed, manually transported (via PTAM), manually stored, manually retrieved, manually received and inventoried, and manually reloaded into the ATL. That's a lot of human interventions. In every project I had to do tapes are NOT physically moved. Remote ATL is in use. That means you have one copy in local ATL and second copy in remote ATL. Data is sent over the cable. The same cable as with PPRC. FICON. The ATL in the DR center is not capable of mounting a tape from a shipping box. A human has to load the tapes into the ATL. Bad assumption, as explained above. True, an ATL in the DR center could be used as offsite backup. And that reduces the MTR somewhat by eliminating the PTAM step in the recovery script. But you still have to get the tape to the DR site. Since our subspace transporter is on backorder, we have to transport tapes by truck. Your point contrasting backup and replication is well taken. However, in a DR context, a 'backup' is just as critical as primary data and should be replicated. You are also correct in that I may not have used the acronyms correctly. But you got the ideas. I should also point out a new idea: networked VTS. The IBM TS7740 (and I'm sure some others) has the ability to be networked with other TS7740's to automatically replicate virtual tapes. Unlike the DASD XRC/PPRC solutions, the network pipe can be sized on average loads and be a bit smaller (less expensive). You should also point older VTS replication (Peer-to-Peer VTS), STK/Sun/Oracle VSM replication and last but not least: software managed replication on any tape drive including real tapes. Oh, I should mention solutions like Luminex or BusTech or InterKom - IMHO suitable for smaller shops, but do provide some remote replication possibilities under the cover. Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mainframe Executive article on the death of tape
Ted MacNEIL pisze: MTR usually means time to REPAIR MTTR means Mean Time To Repair. MTR means Mean Time to recover. Why? Why do you exclude 'to' in one case and include it in another? I don't want to start 'USS war', however both terms could give the same acronym. ;-) I'd suggest http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTTR (for lazy ones: *both* terms are under MTTR) I started in this business with the added responsibilty of track availability and assigning root causes (the 'advantage' of being the junior). The other common expression used to be MTBF - Mean Time Between Failures. Now, almost 30 years later, they've changed it to MTTF - Mean Time To Fail. I noticed that MTBF is becoming less popular, while AFR is being used. AFR mean Annual Failure Rate. How many drives (others) will fail during the year. I've also seen very interesting graphs presenting AFR during the time (for disk drives). Disclaimer: just my limited observation. YMMV. Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2009 r. kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 118.763.528 złotych. W związku z realizacją warunkowego podwyższenia kapitału zakładowego, na podstawie uchwały XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchwały XVI NWZ z dnia 27 października 2008r., może ulec podwyższeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 zł. Akcje w podwyższonym kapitale zakładowym BRE Banku SA będą w całości opłacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?
Charles Mills wrote: I think Chris has hit the nail on the head with regard to the viability of this idea as a product of some sort. (As a personal project -- that's a different matter.) Most mainframers (however that term might be defined) are familiar with TSO and ISPF. There would be a learning curve to use this new product. We tend to be an old and somewhat rigid bunch, resistant to change. Further, some are (as someone else hinted) outright hostile to anything running on a small box. Unless it enabled its user to do absolutely everything that one needed to do and could do in ISPF/TSO, it does not really work as a way of avoiding teaching newbies to use ISPF/TSO, because one would still have to use ISPF/TSO to do that one function. Charles A day or so ago, I mentioned that the latest version of Jol was available. As Jol developed over the years, there was a need to input data (say Symbolic Parameter data, or data in a Form) and so the Panel Instruction was developed. Then, some years ago, it seemed that Menubars and Pulldowns would be an excellent thing to add, and so they were. By following this link, you can see the Jol primary input screen for 3270's. An almost identical screen or Panel is available on Windows and Linux. There are obviously some differences between the Z/OS and the Windows and Linux versions - they don't have Catalogs, and hence there is no facility to do that in Jol. However, many of the functions are transferable, and have been. For example, deleting data sets or files. Or showing a list of Data Sets, and selecting one so that some action can be done with it. You can see my concept of what I think (!) is a useful 3270 screen here (and it is available now): http://members.iinet.com.au/~clementclarke/scrn01.gif Suggestions are welcomed, and the menus etc can be easily changed as they are all in Jol high level language format. Clement Clarke -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Antwort: Is there a way to execute the same non-CICS DB2 COBOL program in both batch and online?
Hi Amlan the magic word is 'conditional compile' to activate specific COBOL statements in a single COBOL Source. (e.g DFHCOMMAREA in CICS) COBOL-Source: $IF COMPILEMODUS = CICS 01 DFHCOMMAREA. ... $END $IF COMPILEMODUS = BATCH 01 io-area. ... $END You need two load modules, one for batch and one for CICS. Unfortunately IBM COBOL compiler does not support the conditional compile, but only Microfocus COBOL compiler. Therefore you need a preceding step for each compile-job to activate, deactivate the conditional compile statements. Albert VERLAGSGRUPPE WELTBILD GMBH Sitz der Gesellschaft: Augsburg Handelsregister Augsburg HRB 6035 Ust-ID-Nr: DE 127501299 Geschäftsführung: Carel Halff (Vorsitzender), Dr. Martin Beer, Dr. Klaus Driever Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Dr. Klaus Donaubauer
Re: How to recatalog to a different master catalog?
Maybe I missed it, but I would have to question *why* migrate to a new master catalog. If it is for a z/OS upgrade, it is not necessary. Use indirect cataloging, eliminates a lot of extra work, especially if you user a mod-9 or larger volume for your sysres, and keep everything on one volume. _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB1G p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.8497 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of David G. Schlecht Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 5:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: How to recatalog to a different master catalog? I'm inclined to try to catalog the old CDSs into the new catalog but RECATALOG will only work for the original catalog. What are the names? If they begin with SYS1, then you can simply do the RECATALOG as there is special code to allow that. If not, then you must do a MERGECAT command in IDCAMS, which you can do for individual entries. These are SYS1 datasets since VARY SMS,SHCDS prepends SYS1 to the dataset name. RECATALOG does not work for these datasets on 1.10 since the catalog name has changed. The SYS1 HLQ does not help in this case. There must be an easier way to do this. How does everyone else get RLS migrated? What am I missing? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Warning: TS7700 spontaneous reboot.
FYI: This week one of our TS7700 clusters had a spontaneous reboot and was unavailable for 22 minutes. The other cluster in the grid operated normally. Investigations by IBM showed that this was a know bug in the V1R5 microcode which is resolved in V1R6. TS7700 users who have intentions to upgrade their 1.5 code to 1.6, might want to review their planning. Regards, Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mainframe Executive article on the death of tape
Thanks! I was beginning to worry I was the only one that still occassionally gets woken up in the night for a tape error. Tapes wear out, heads get dirty, writes fail. These days the error is almost always caught on the write, but I did have a 3590 refuse to read a tape a few months ago. First one that I can remember in a long, long time though. Scott Chapman sy...@hotmail.com wrote: I had a tape error just last week. Tapes and drives are about 5 years old. 10079 08:52:11.45 STC06292 0080 IOS000I 0121,2C,IOE,01,0600,,**,A00298,EXHPDM 504 504 0080 0A4410D050405050 0001FF00 030C003117335490 4B04E8205C5B2011 504 0080 WRITE ERROR DETECTED Cliff McNeill -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mainframe Executive article on the death of tape
Scott Chapman pisze: Thanks! I was beginning to worry I was the only one that still occassionally gets woken up in the night for a tape error. Tapes wear out, heads get dirty, writes fail. These days the error is almost always caught on the write, but I did have a 3590 refuse to read a tape a few months ago. First one that I can remember in a long, long time though. Scott Chapman I would like to remind that none of responders said there are no tape errors. We say that error ratio is much lower than presented in origin of the thread. 1% does not mean 0. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMF Question
Mary, Are you running with SMF logstreams? If so, you *must* issue the Z EOD (and do not eliminate it as someone else suggested). That process forces the last data in the SMF buffers to be written out to the logstreams. To see if it is done writing, issue D LOGGER or a variation thereof. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Elwood Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SMF Question We have z/OS 1.11 running on our DEVL system. We shut the system down using the same scripts that are used on the z/OS 1.9 system. We have something really unusual happening. In a D A,L there is nothing running. ACF2 is down, JES2 is down, OMVS filesystem and inits have been shutdown - everything is down. Something is trying to do a SAF call. We are getting ACF92CCC messages telling us security isn't available to reply u c or w. We think whatever it is is trying to write a record to the SMF datasets. Has anyone ever run across this before? Thank you, Mary Global IT Services Information Services Desk: 703-206-4201 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Call for XEDIT freaks, submit ISPF requirements
Well, I kinda miss cur h capability. Anything that keeps my hands on the keyboard, and not straying over to the arrow keys or mouse is appreciated... Breton Imhauser | Technical Support Acxiom IT Services 00-1-501-342-2629 office | 00-1-501-342-3932 fax 301 E Dave Ward Drive | Conway AR 72033-2000 | USA | www.Acxiom.com *** The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please resend this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system. Thank You. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mainframe Executive article on the death of tape
MTTR means Mean Time To Repair. MTR means Mean Time to recover. Why? Why do you exclude 'to' in one case and include it in another? Don't ask me! That's what I was taught, 30 years ago. I realise that the terminology has changed, but since I no longer do availability reporting, to me it doesn't matter. And, the last (of many) DR excercises I did (of many), the doc was all MTR. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMF Question
Responding to my own post: Mary, you (and others), may also want to contact IBM. We have an open issue with them on this topic because there is no indication to operators that it is waiting for logstream processing to complete. In some circumstances, I have had to restart JES2 and DFSMShsm to allow the logstream processing to complete. It does not happen very often, but it has happened. Bob -Original Message- From: Richards, Robert B. Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:08 AM To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List' Subject: RE: SMF Question Mary, Are you running with SMF logstreams? If so, you *must* issue the Z EOD (and do not eliminate it as someone else suggested). That process forces the last data in the SMF buffers to be written out to the logstreams. To see if it is done writing, issue D LOGGER or a variation thereof. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Elwood Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SMF Question We have z/OS 1.11 running on our DEVL system. We shut the system down using the same scripts that are used on the z/OS 1.9 system. We have something really unusual happening. In a D A,L there is nothing running. ACF2 is down, JES2 is down, OMVS filesystem and inits have been shutdown - everything is down. Something is trying to do a SAF call. We are getting ACF92CCC messages telling us security isn't available to reply u c or w. We think whatever it is is trying to write a record to the SMF datasets. Has anyone ever run across this before? Thank you, Mary Global IT Services Information Services Desk: 703-206-4201 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
any known issues with EIM?
Hi, Got a customer who wants to implement EIM and was wondering if anyone out there has had any problems with it? A quick search of the archive/interweb came up blank. TIA Martin Underwood Senior Technical Consultant email:mailto:mar...@sysprog.co.uk mar...@sysprog.co.uk mobile: +44 (0)7798 500384 d/l: +44 (0)1932 887489 millennia ... we can help http://www.sysprog.co.uk www.sysprog.co.uk -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: link edit question
snip USER1.PROD.LINK (TST1): INCLUDE SEGMENT(YBY402) INCLUDE SEGMENT(YEA102) INCLUDE SEGMENT(YBY402) For example If i write the YBY402 twice it does not give any error in the TEST1 job. I want to get a jcl error if i write a record twice in TST1 member. Because there are thousands of lines in the TST1 member, some segments can be entered multiple times accidentaly. /snip You will never get a JCL error in these conditions. It is up to the linkage editor (binder) program to detect duplicate includes. IIRC, the linkage editor will use the 1st occurrence of YB402 found in the SYSLIN stream and happily ignore the second without even an error message (someone will no doubt correct me if I am wrong). This will not make any difference in the size of the target load module (unless the size of one of the included modules changes). Given the following for SEGMENT //SEGMENT DD DISP=SHR,DSN=LIB..RESA.NCAL // DD DISP=SHR,DSN=LIB..DCSH.NCAL // DD DISP=SHR,DSN=LIB..RESP.NCAL // DD DISP=SHR,DSN=LIB..DCSY.NCAL The 1st occurrence of YB402 from any dataset (searched in order) will be used. HTH, snip My job is : USER1.PROD.LINK(TEST1) : //TEST1 JOB CLASS=A,MSGLEVEL=(1,1), MSGCLASS=X // JCLLIB ORDER=(USER1.PROD.LINK) //TST1EXEC TLINK,MEMBER=TST1 * USER1.PROD.LINK(TLINK) procedure: //ZLINK PROC MEMBER=UNKNOWN, // LIB=USER1.PROD, // HEADER=LINKHED //ZLINK EXEC PGM=HEWL,PARM='MAP,LIST,LET,NORENT,NCAL' //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSLIN DD DISP=SHR,DSN=LIB..LINK(HEADER) // DD DISP=SHR,DSN=LIB..LINK(MEMBER) //SYSLMOD DD DISP=SHR,DSN=LIB..LOAD(MEMBER) //SYSTEM DD DISP=SHR,DSN=DXC.V2R3M1.DXCMOD1 //SEGMENT DD DISP=SHR,DSN=LIB..RESA.NCAL // DD DISP=SHR,DSN=LIB..DCSH.NCAL // DD DISP=SHR,DSN=LIB..RESP.NCAL // DD DISP=SHR,DSN=LIB..DCSY.NCAL // PEND * /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to recatalog to a different master catalog?
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of David G. Schlecht Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: How to recatalog to a different master catalog? snip These are SYS1 datasets since VARY SMS,SHCDS prepends SYS1 to the dataset name. RECATALOG does not work for these datasets on 1.10 since the catalog name has changed. The SYS1 HLQ does not help in this case. snip What error message did you get when you tried? I've defined my SMF datasets in multiple, differently named, master catalogs since z/OS 1.8. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Antwort: any known issues with EIM?
Hi Martin, EIM works fine in our installation. We have DB2 as backend. No problems at all; smooth setup as described in the manuals. Cheers Michael Martin Underwood mar...@sysprog.co.uk Gesendet von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 25.03.2010 13:07 Bitte antworten an IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu An IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Kopie Thema any known issues with EIM? Hi, Got a customer who wants to implement EIM and was wondering if anyone out there has had any problems with it? A quick search of the archive/interweb came up blank. TIA Martin Underwood Senior Technical Consultant email:mailto:mar...@sysprog.co.uk mar...@sysprog.co.uk mobile: +44 (0)7798 500384 d/l: +44 (0)1932 887489 millennia ... we can help http://www.sysprog.co.uk www.sysprog.co.uk -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: link edit question
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 07:18:16 -0500, Staller, Allan wrote: snip USER1.PROD.LINK (TST1): INCLUDE SEGMENT(YBY402) INCLUDE SEGMENT(YEA102) INCLUDE SEGMENT(YBY402) For example If i write the YBY402 twice it does not give any error in the TEST1 job. I want to get a jcl error if i write a record twice in TST1 member. Because there are thousands of lines in the TST1 member, some segments can be entered multiple times accidentaly. /snip You will never get a JCL error in these conditions. It is up to the linkage editor (binder) program to detect duplicate includes. IIRC, the linkage editor will use the 1st occurrence of YB402 found in the SYSLIN stream and happily ignore the second without even an error message (someone will no doubt correct me if I am wrong). It depends on the z/OS release and the operand of the LIST option. In some releases, with LIST(ALL), Binder generates an Informative message when it bypasses duplicate CSECTS. ... This will not make any difference in the size of the target load module (unless the size of one of the included modules changes). This is a performance matter, not worthy of a JCL error. Scan for the message in SYSPRINT, and clean up SYSLIN. If SYSLIN is generated automatically, enter member names in an associative array as they are discovered and omit duplicates. Or sort SYSLIN with a UNIQUE option. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Call for XEDIT freaks, submit ISPF requirements
The things I liked in Xedit include, being able to split the screen vertically and more than two screens visible. Being able to change the whole layout of the screen (do you remember the EDGAR compatiblity exec?) - you have control of where the prefix area is (left or right; how many characters; numeric/line- numbers or characters), where the command area is, what the title is, etc. The concept of the current line - in original/default Xedit, the center line was a column indicator (like the COLS prefix command), but it stayed in the middle of the screen, and line under it was the current line (it kind of set the context). Xedit was/is powerful enough to be the display manager (look at FILELIST). I would like ISPF to have the ability to trap and display TPUTs and interact with the user in real-time (not just wait until the command is finished with OUTTRAP). Please make TSO/Pipelines standard with z/OS (I don't care about Batch/Pipelines myself). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Call for XEDIT freaks, submit ISPF requirements
the feature of Xedit that I used (and missed most) is the ability to delete down to a literal (regardless of how many lines down it existed or where in the line it existed - but then I have not worked with XEDIT (or CMS or VM for that matter) since 1984 , pout if such a feature exists in the ISPF / TSO editor - mea cupla - i never knew Chris Hoelscher IDMS/DB2 Database Architect Humana Inc 502-476-2538 choelsc...@humana.com you only need to test the programs that you want to work correctly The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain CONFIDENTIAL material. If you receive this material/information in error, please contact the sender and delete or destroy the material/information. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of clementcla...@ozemail.com.au Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project? Charles Mills wrote: I think Chris has hit the nail on the head with regard to the viability of this idea as a product of some sort. (As a personal project -- that's a different matter.) Most mainframers (however that term might be defined) are familiar with TSO and ISPF. There would be a learning curve to use this new product. Some; but not much, if designed properly. I think we mainframers understand how to use a well designed GUI and, in fact, have had to tech ourselves how to use more than our share of poorly designed GUI's. ;-) I think that one major issue, however, is the sheer enormity of the project we speak of. I agree that a new z/OS user interface is a waste if it ends up leaving ISPF hanging around for whatever function that was not or could not have been included. I also think that a new user interface for z/OS is absolutely needed if z/OS is really going to take root with the kids who IBM is trying desperately to convert via their Academic Initiative (which I fully support, btw). There will, obviously, be some overlap but it needs to be kept to a minimum. Bring it on, IBM. All the best, Scott T. Harder Mainframe Services, Inc. Naples, FL snippage -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SQL Server replacement
I am way out of my element on this topic, so I thought I'd post this query: If we were looking to replace Microsoft's SQL Server with something on System z, what would my options be and how much effort would be required to move it there? Bob - Robert B. Richards(Bob) US Office of Personnel Management 1900 E Street NW Room: BH04L Washington, D.C. 20415 Phone: (202) 606-1195 Email: robert.richa...@opm.govmailto:robert.richa...@opm.gov - -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
RMM question
Is there a way to perform a SCRATCH IMMEDIATE in Batch? Environment is z/OS 1.9 or later. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SQL Server replacement
I would think that DB2 on z/OS, or any RDMS (DB2, Oracle, MySQL, etc) on Linux would do the job. Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov 3/25/2010 9:19 AM I am way out of my element on this topic, so I thought I'd post this query: If we were looking to replace Microsoft's SQL Server with something on System z, what would my options be and how much effort would be required to move it there? Bob - Robert B. Richards(Bob) US Office of Personnel Management 1900 E Street NW Room: BH04L Washington, D.C. 20415 Phone: (202) 606-1195 Email: robert.richa...@opm.govmailto:robert.richa...@opm.gov - -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mainframe Executive article on the death of tape
Ron, You are putting words in my mouth. I never said that writing a given file to tape would use less bandwidth than writing that file to disk. Looking back I realize I did not word it vary well, but my original point was that a DR solution using remote tape can be done with less bandwidth than using sync/async disk replication, and without the human cost that Hal was insisting. The only problem I raised with your statement was that you thought there was no remote tape in use, which is incorrect. Ron Hawkins ron.hawkins1...@sbcglobal.net 3/24/2010 10:18 PM Scott, OK, so in this context you mean tape drives connected by FICON channel Extenders. In that case I disagree with your point in that paragraph. It is incorrect to say that Remote Tape normally has lower bandwidth costs than remote disk. Writing the same file to remote tape or remote disk will use the same bandwidth. Do you have some information that says otherwise? Whether we compare remote tape and disk, or replicated tape and disk the bandwidth required is the same for duplication of the same data. For MTTR comparing Remote Disk and tape, one advantage of Remote Disk is that there are strategies where there is no need to restore. The backup datasets are in native DSORG and your applications just allocate them and go. There is no restore time. For strategies that use DFDSS or similar files that require a restore, we are talking about Disk Subsystems that can read in excess of 9.5GB/sec or 370K IOPS on FICON, depending on your blocksize and configuration - and not with virtualized SATA Disks. With HyperPAV allowing a high level of parallelism on Disk I'm just not sure that tape subsystems are in the same performance league as disk given that real or emulated tape IO is single threaded, the disk arrays front-ending virtual tape are usually not high end specs, and there will some amount of data that encounters staging delays in some Virtual Tape systems. (I still have nightmares about the original IBM ATL replication performance, but I'm sure it has improved). I'll agree that MTTR from Remote Disk or Tape may not be valuable to some sites, YMMV, but Remote Disk strategies can have a significantly better MTTR than Remote or Replicated Tape, but not as good as replicated disk. This faster MTTR may be valuable to some sites. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rowe Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Mainframe Executive article on the death of tape I don't know why you used replication in there, but there is quite definitely remote tape in use. Ron Hawkins ron.hawkins1...@sbcglobal.net 3/24/2010 5:24 PM Scott, Actually these implementations are remote disk, with some HSM in a can that may or may not age-out the data to tape at a later time. I don't think there is any true Remote Tape replication in the z/OS marketplace. YMMV, but there are shops that are finding a better TCO using commodity priced rack and stack systems to do this, either through appliances, virtualized DASD, or both. Radoslaw was talking about remote tape. Some sites have a remote tape library that they can backup into, this eliminates almost all tape handling, and normally has lower bandwidth costs than remote disk. Ron -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mainframe Executive article on the death of tape
but my original point was that a DR solution using remote tape can be done with less bandwidth than using sync/async disk replication A point which I disagree with. You must completely replicate the newly written volume at the backup site, after writing.n before the next logical dismount and mount can happen. While a logical mount is in milliseconds, this synchronous replication is not. If you're stingy on the bandwidth you can back up your back ups. If you're going to do it, do it right. Anything less will be a nightmare. BTDT. GTTS. DLI. DWTDIA! - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SQL Server replacement
On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 09:19 -0400, Richards, Robert B. wrote: If we were looking to replace Microsoft's SQL Server with something on System z, what would my options be and how much effort would be required to move it there? I have no direct experience, so take this with a dumpster load of NaCl, but PostgreSQL ought to run on Linux-on-z, and I believe there is an ODBC driver. If a Linux VM or LPAR is an option for you, you might ask about it over on linux-390. For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. david.andr...@duda.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Tracing above the bar memory allocation/deallocation
SNIP Does anyone know of a facility similar to GFS trace for tracing above the bar memory allocation/deallocation? I have a program that analyzes GFS trace output which makes short work of diagnosing memory leaks. It also reports storage usage by TCB and subpool. But I would like to be able to diagnose memory leaks above the bar as well. SNIP z/XPF will report on IARV64 memory management PCs. Contact Cole Software . --Dave Day -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SQL Server replacement
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 09:49:03 -0400, David Andrews wrote: I have no direct experience, so take this with a dumpster load of NaCl, but PostgreSQL ought to run on Linux-on-z, and I believe there is an ODBC driver. At: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_on_zSeries I see mentioned Oracle, MySQL, PostgreSQL, et al. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Subpools - specifically 241
Hello, I was wondering if anyone is using subpool 241 in their processing. I had an earlier thread about using subpool 241 with a key of 9. Based on the info I have read and some of you have given me, I'm thinking of trying to still use subpool 241 but with a key of 0. I have been trying to find info on how to use the subpools - but it seems like 2 pages in one manual and then 3 in another. Does anyone know if there is a someplace I can find information on how to use this properly? Things like - what state does the program need to be in - problem or supervisor? Any other gotchas like that. Thanks in advance for your time. Diane M. Goodwin IT System Adminstration Specialist Amica Insurance Company email: dgood...@amica.com I'm not a cynic. I'm a disappointed optimist. - George Carlin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SQL Server replacement
I think the general answer you're going to get is 'it depends.' If you have 'vanilla' requirements, haven't specialized your SQLServer environment and aren't exploiting any SQLServer-only / T-SQL (there might be compatibility issues depending on the SQL flavor used by your new-target RDBMS) only functions and features, your migration to any other RDBMS might be relatively straightforward (yes, I'm hedging my bets with 'might be' and 'relatively'). That's probably not the case, though . . . You probably already knew this, but you're going to need to invest some time in analyzing your current setup and comparing it with the feature-set / configuration options of whatever your target system is going to be. That said, DB2 for z/OS is an option if you intend to not run Linux on z, otherwise any Linux compatible RDBMS is a candidate for replacement (Oracle / DB2 on Linux / PostegreSQL / MySQL). I'm not advocating one over the other, just outlining some options. Good luck! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SQL Server replacement I am way out of my element on this topic, so I thought I'd post this query: If we were looking to replace Microsoft's SQL Server with something on System z, what would my options be and how much effort would be required to move it there? Bob - Robert B. Richards(Bob) US Office of Personnel Management 1900 E Street NW Room: BH04L Washington, D.C. 20415 Phone: (202) 606-1195 Email: robert.richa...@opm.govmailto:robert.richa...@opm.gov - -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mainframe Executive article on the death of tape
Ted, I'm not talking about VTS replication. Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca 3/25/2010 9:48 AM but my original point was that a DR solution using remote tape can be done with less bandwidth than using sync/async disk replication A point which I disagree with. You must completely replicate the newly written volume at the backup site, after writing.n before the next logical dismount and mount can happen. While a logical mount is in milliseconds, this synchronous replication is not. If you're stingy on the bandwidth you can back up your back ups. If you're going to do it, do it right. Anything less will be a nightmare. BTDT. GTTS. DLI. DWTDIA! - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: link edit question
For example If i write the YBY402 twice it does not give any error in the TEST1 job. I want to get a jcl error if i write a record twice in TST1 member. Because there are thousands of lines in the TST1 member, some segments can be entered multiple times accidentaly. /snip You will never get a JCL error in these conditions. It is up to the linkage editor (binder) program to detect duplicate includes. IIRC, the linkage editor will use the 1st occurrence of YB402 found in the SYSLIN stream and happily ignore the second without even an error message (someone will no doubt correct me if I am wrong). It depends on the z/OS release and the operand of the LIST option. In some releases, with LIST(ALL), Binder generates an Informative message when it bypasses duplicate CSECTS. -- gil You know i have a LET option in my PARM statement. Do you think i would get an error message if i code LET=4 so LET option does not get the RC 8 value and it produces a message when it sees duplicate include segment statements? If not my only options is setting the LIST(ALL) option and check the output if i could see some duplicate csects. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SQL Server replacement
Andrew, Linux on z *is* an option, as is Oracle there, DB2 there and z/OS' DB2. I have no idea if there are any SQLServer-only exploits, but will relay that concern to others. To all that replied, thanks! :-) Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Austin, Andrew Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SQL Server replacement I think the general answer you're going to get is 'it depends.' If you have 'vanilla' requirements, haven't specialized your SQLServer environment and aren't exploiting any SQLServer-only / T-SQL (there might be compatibility issues depending on the SQL flavor used by your new-target RDBMS) only functions and features, your migration to any other RDBMS might be relatively straightforward (yes, I'm hedging my bets with 'might be' and 'relatively'). That's probably not the case, though . . . You probably already knew this, but you're going to need to invest some time in analyzing your current setup and comparing it with the feature-set / configuration options of whatever your target system is going to be. That said, DB2 for z/OS is an option if you intend to not run Linux on z, otherwise any Linux compatible RDBMS is a candidate for replacement (Oracle / DB2 on Linux / PostegreSQL / MySQL). I'm not advocating one over the other, just outlining some options. Good luck! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SQL Server replacement I am way out of my element on this topic, so I thought I'd post this query: If we were looking to replace Microsoft's SQL Server with something on System z, what would my options be and how much effort would be required to move it there? Bob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SQL Server replacement
DB2 UDB will fit most of the requirements on a z/OS or z/Linux LPAR. IBM will tell you how to convert http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246672.html You can always use an automation tool. See Ispire SQLways or SwissSQL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Subpools - specifically 241
Diane, I've used it many times... first, you must be in an authorized state or key. A simple MODESET MODE=SUP,KEY=ZERO will get you where you need to be. Then, allocate the storage: IPK , R2 = PSW Key MODESET MODE=SUP,KEY=ZERO STORAGE OBTAIN,SP=241,KEY=0... etc. ... alter the storage as required SPKA 0(R2)Back to your old key MODESET MODE=PROB Back to your old state Save your current key so you can get back into it after you've obtained your storage and modified it. Stay out of key zero as much as possible... while in key 0, you will want to have a specific set of instructions that alter your storage areas with little or no possibility of exiting. Key 0 will allow you to alter almost any common storage area in the system. An inadvertent register change can result in irreparable damage to the system; possibly resulting in an IPL. I would refer to the z/OS Diagnosis Reference for details about the various subpools. Tony Lubrano Product Author NEON Enterprise Software, LLC. p: 281 207 4922 f: 281 207 4973 tony.lubr...@neon.com What is zPrime? Find out at www.zprime.com or just ask us! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of GOODWIN, DIANE M. Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Subpools - specifically 241 Hello, I was wondering if anyone is using subpool 241 in their processing. I had an earlier thread about using subpool 241 with a key of 9. Based on the info I have read and some of you have given me, I'm thinking of trying to still use subpool 241 but with a key of 0. I have been trying to find info on how to use the subpools - but it seems like 2 pages in one manual and then 3 in another. Does anyone know if there is a someplace I can find information on how to use this properly? Things like - what state does the program need to be in - problem or supervisor? Any other gotchas like that. Thanks in advance for your time. Diane M. Goodwin IT System Adminstration Specialist Amica Insurance Company email: dgood...@amica.com I'm not a cynic. I'm a disappointed optimist. - George Carlin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mainframe Executive article on the death of tape
I'm not talking about VTS replication. Then what are you talking about? Not to be snarky, but on one hand you talk about all the problems, and on the other when something's brought up, you immediately shoot it down. My point, all along, is do it right or don't do it at all. This thread has so many statements, re-statements, and retractions, that I have lost track. I thought the issue was tape handling, which is gone with VTS, and completely gone with replication. But, I don't believe your form of 'remote tape' is very viable for the true insurance policy of a proper DR process. I'm not trying to be argumentative -- just trying to understand your point. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Subpools - specifically 241
Tony, Would I be able to use another key if zero is so dangerous? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tony Lubrano Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 Diane, I've used it many times... first, you must be in an authorized state or key. A simple MODESET MODE=SUP,KEY=ZERO will get you where you need to be. Then, allocate the storage: IPK , R2 = PSW Key MODESET MODE=SUP,KEY=ZERO STORAGE OBTAIN,SP=241,KEY=0... etc. ... alter the storage as required SPKA 0(R2)Back to your old key MODESET MODE=PROB Back to your old state Save your current key so you can get back into it after you've obtained your storage and modified it. Stay out of key zero as much as possible... while in key 0, you will want to have a specific set of instructions that alter your storage areas with little or no possibility of exiting. Key 0 will allow you to alter almost any common storage area in the system. An inadvertent register change can result in irreparable damage to the system; possibly resulting in an IPL. I would refer to the z/OS Diagnosis Reference for details about the various subpools. Tony Lubrano Product Author NEON Enterprise Software, LLC. p: 281 207 4922 f: 281 207 4973 tony.lubr...@neon.com What is zPrime? Find out at www.zprime.com or just ask us! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of GOODWIN, DIANE M. Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Subpools - specifically 241 Hello, I was wondering if anyone is using subpool 241 in their processing. I had an earlier thread about using subpool 241 with a key of 9. Based on the info I have read and some of you have given me, I'm thinking of trying to still use subpool 241 but with a key of 0. I have been trying to find info on how to use the subpools - but it seems like 2 pages in one manual and then 3 in another. Does anyone know if there is a someplace I can find information on how to use this properly? Things like - what state does the program need to be in - problem or supervisor? Any other gotchas like that. Thanks in advance for your time. Diane M. Goodwin IT System Adminstration Specialist Amica Insurance Company email: dgood...@amica.com I'm not a cynic. I'm a disappointed optimist. - George Carlin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Subpools - specifically 241
Stay out of key zero as much as possible... while in key 0, you will want to have a specific set of instructions that alter your storage areas with little or no possibility of exiting. Amen to that - tread as carefully as you would if you were running blindfolded, carrying scissors in one hand and a chainsaw in the other. Rob Scott Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tony Lubrano Sent: 25 March 2010 14:31 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 Diane, I've used it many times... first, you must be in an authorized state or key. A simple MODESET MODE=SUP,KEY=ZERO will get you where you need to be. Then, allocate the storage: IPK , R2 = PSW Key MODESET MODE=SUP,KEY=ZERO STORAGE OBTAIN,SP=241,KEY=0... etc. ... alter the storage as required SPKA 0(R2)Back to your old key MODESET MODE=PROB Back to your old state Save your current key so you can get back into it after you've obtained your storage and modified it. Stay out of key zero as much as possible... while in key 0, you will want to have a specific set of instructions that alter your storage areas with little or no possibility of exiting. Key 0 will allow you to alter almost any common storage area in the system. An inadvertent register change can result in irreparable damage to the system; possibly resulting in an IPL. I would refer to the z/OS Diagnosis Reference for details about the various subpools. Tony Lubrano Product Author NEON Enterprise Software, LLC. p: 281 207 4922 f: 281 207 4973 tony.lubr...@neon.com What is zPrime? Find out at www.zprime.com or just ask us! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of GOODWIN, DIANE M. Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Subpools - specifically 241 Hello, I was wondering if anyone is using subpool 241 in their processing. I had an earlier thread about using subpool 241 with a key of 9. Based on the info I have read and some of you have given me, I'm thinking of trying to still use subpool 241 but with a key of 0. I have been trying to find info on how to use the subpools - but it seems like 2 pages in one manual and then 3 in another. Does anyone know if there is a someplace I can find information on how to use this properly? Things like - what state does the program need to be in - problem or supervisor? Any other gotchas like that. Thanks in advance for your time. Diane M. Goodwin IT System Adminstration Specialist Amica Insurance Company email: dgood...@amica.com I'm not a cynic. I'm a disappointed optimist. - George Carlin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Subpools - specifically 241
Again, check the Diagnosis Guide. It has references for the various keys used by product, as well as the conditions applicable to each subpool. E.g. IIRC, VTAM is a large user of Key 3. Pick an unused key (for your shop) and have fun. A non-zero key is marginally safer than key 0. HTH, snip Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 Tony, Would I be able to use another key if zero is so dangerous? /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Subpools - specifically 241
I was wondering if anyone is using subpool 241 in their processing. I had an earlier thread about using subpool 241 with a key of 9. Based on the info I have read and some of you have given me, I'm thinking of trying to still use subpool 241 but with a key of 0. I have been trying to find info on how to use the subpools - but it seems like 2 pages in one manual and then 3 in another. Does anyone know if there is a someplace I can find information on how to use this properly? Things like - what state does the program need to be in - problem or supervisor? Any other gotchas like that. Thanks in advance for your time. At the risk of being a grinch, you should consider hiring someone to write the code you need. This is not the place for trial and error. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Subpools - specifically 241
Nope... you'll need to be in key 0 to obtain and/or alter the storage. However, all keys can read (look at) the storage as long as they don't attempt to alter it. As Rob stated... be careful when, where and for how long you go into key 0. The fewer instructions, the better. Quite frankly, you might be much better off writing a non-space switching, stacking PC that performs all allocations and updates to the storage. This way, you can limit the exposure to a single piece of code and all updaters can remain in their own mode and key. It may require a bit of analysis and design work however, it's a common practice among software development companies. If you're not comfortable writing a stacking PC routine, you can leverage your existing authorization SVC to drive this single-point functionality. You still need to design a single program that can perform all the allocation and alteration functions required. Execution through an SVC or stacking PC is a rather minor implementation task. Tony Lubrano Product Author NEON Enterprise Software, LLC. p: 281 207 4922 f: 281 207 4973 tony.lubr...@neon.com What is zPrime? Find out at www.zprime.com or just ask us! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of GOODWIN, DIANE M. Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 Tony, Would I be able to use another key if zero is so dangerous? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tony Lubrano Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 Diane, I've used it many times... first, you must be in an authorized state or key. A simple MODESET MODE=SUP,KEY=ZERO will get you where you need to be. Then, allocate the storage: IPK , R2 = PSW Key MODESET MODE=SUP,KEY=ZERO STORAGE OBTAIN,SP=241,KEY=0... etc. ... alter the storage as required SPKA 0(R2)Back to your old key MODESET MODE=PROB Back to your old state Save your current key so you can get back into it after you've obtained your storage and modified it. Stay out of key zero as much as possible... while in key 0, you will want to have a specific set of instructions that alter your storage areas with little or no possibility of exiting. Key 0 will allow you to alter almost any common storage area in the system. An inadvertent register change can result in irreparable damage to the system; possibly resulting in an IPL. I would refer to the z/OS Diagnosis Reference for details about the various subpools. Tony Lubrano Product Author NEON Enterprise Software, LLC. p: 281 207 4922 f: 281 207 4973 tony.lubr...@neon.com What is zPrime? Find out at www.zprime.com or just ask us! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of GOODWIN, DIANE M. Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Subpools - specifically 241 Hello, I was wondering if anyone is using subpool 241 in their processing. I had an earlier thread about using subpool 241 with a key of 9. Based on the info I have read and some of you have given me, I'm thinking of trying to still use subpool 241 but with a key of 0. I have been trying to find info on how to use the subpools - but it seems like 2 pages in one manual and then 3 in another. Does anyone know if there is a someplace I can find information on how to use this properly? Things like - what state does the program need to be in - problem or supervisor? Any other gotchas like that. Thanks in advance for your time. Diane M. Goodwin IT System Adminstration Specialist Amica Insurance Company email: dgood...@amica.com I'm not a cynic. I'm a disappointed optimist. - George Carlin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at
Re: Subpools - specifically 241
A frequant usage for this sort of thing is either Key2 or Key4. If you store information in the Key2/Key4 block using MVCDK with the correct key in R1, then you can reduce the likelyhood of storage overlays even if your pgm is running Sup+Key0. Rob Scott Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of GOODWIN, DIANE M. Sent: 25 March 2010 14:36 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 Tony, Would I be able to use another key if zero is so dangerous? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tony Lubrano Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 Diane, I've used it many times... first, you must be in an authorized state or key. A simple MODESET MODE=SUP,KEY=ZERO will get you where you need to be. Then, allocate the storage: IPK , R2 = PSW Key MODESET MODE=SUP,KEY=ZERO STORAGE OBTAIN,SP=241,KEY=0... etc. ... alter the storage as required SPKA 0(R2)Back to your old key MODESET MODE=PROB Back to your old state Save your current key so you can get back into it after you've obtained your storage and modified it. Stay out of key zero as much as possible... while in key 0, you will want to have a specific set of instructions that alter your storage areas with little or no possibility of exiting. Key 0 will allow you to alter almost any common storage area in the system. An inadvertent register change can result in irreparable damage to the system; possibly resulting in an IPL. I would refer to the z/OS Diagnosis Reference for details about the various subpools. Tony Lubrano Product Author NEON Enterprise Software, LLC. p: 281 207 4922 f: 281 207 4973 tony.lubr...@neon.com What is zPrime? Find out at www.zprime.com or just ask us! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of GOODWIN, DIANE M. Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Subpools - specifically 241 Hello, I was wondering if anyone is using subpool 241 in their processing. I had an earlier thread about using subpool 241 with a key of 9. Based on the info I have read and some of you have given me, I'm thinking of trying to still use subpool 241 but with a key of 0. I have been trying to find info on how to use the subpools - but it seems like 2 pages in one manual and then 3 in another. Does anyone know if there is a someplace I can find information on how to use this properly? Things like - what state does the program need to be in - problem or supervisor? Any other gotchas like that. Thanks in advance for your time. Diane M. Goodwin IT System Adminstration Specialist Amica Insurance Company email: dgood...@amica.com I'm not a cynic. I'm a disappointed optimist. - George Carlin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Subpools - specifically 241
Updating my own post... E.G. VTAM uses key 6, not key 3. IMS/DB2 use key 7. And referencing Tony's post.. snip Nope... you'll need to be in key 0 to obtain and/or alter the storage. /snip Actually you will need to be authorized to get out of user key (8-9). Once authorized, you can do almost anything. According to the Diagnosis Guide, the key of the storage obtained can be specified depending on the form of the GETMAIN/FREEMAIN macro used. See 1.9 MVS Diagnosis Guide. Topic 1.8.3 STORAGE SUBPOOLS and TABLE 8.2 in topic 1.8.3.1 Storage keys for selectable key subpools HTH, -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Subpools - specifically 241
Key2 and key4 are flagged in the Diag guide as reserved. I presume they are flagged as reserved for some vendor(IBM or OTHER) reason. Can anyone enlighten me? snip A frequant usage for this sort of thing is either Key2 or Key4. If you store information in the Key2/Key4 block using MVCDK with the correct key in R1, then you can reduce the likelyhood of storage overlays even if your pgm is running Sup+Key0. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
OT: reply from Listserv
sorry if this is not a mainframe related topic. I need t Hello list, sorry if this is not a mainframe related topic. I need to temporarily quit receiving e-mail from ibm-main. If I send an e-mail to lists...@bama.ua.edu with 'SET IBM-MAIN NOMAIL' in the body of the message, I keep getting the message below as reply: 烧再瘀 Unknown command - 烧再兄. Try HELP. Is there a problem with the listserv ? Best regards Valter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to recatalog to a different master catalog?
I believe that getting a SHCDS cataloged in a MCAT may not be too difficult. It is my understanding that the VARY SMS,SHCDS command initiates a process in the SMSVSAM address space that results in the specified SHCDS being recatalogued if it is discovered to be uncatalogued in the active MCAT. See page 253 (chapter 15) in DFsms Storage Administration (SC26-7402-13) for more information. Thanks for the feedback. I've tried this route but SMSVSAM fails with RACF error requiring ALTER access to the MCAT. It has UPDATE and that's what the books say. It makes no sense that it would need more than UPDATE. Have you granted ALTER authority? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: reply from Listserv
I just sent GET IBM-MAIN INFO to the listserv and it worked just fine. Do you have ANYTHING else in your message body? A signature perhaps. The body, as far as I know must contain nothing but the instruction. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Walter Marguccio Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: OT: reply from Listserv sorry if this is not a mainframe related topic. I need t Hello list, sorry if this is not a mainframe related topic. I need to temporarily quit receiving e-mail from ibm-main. If I send an e-mail to lists...@bama.ua.edu with 'SET IBM-MAIN NOMAIL' in the body of the message, I keep getting the message below as reply: 烧再瘀 Unknown command - 烧再兄. Try HELP. Is there a problem with the listserv ? Best regards Valter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Subpools - specifically 241
I believe that IBM used to use Key2 for some purpose years ago, but this is no longer the case. Key4 has never been assigned an offical IBM usage. There is no hands off for Key2 or Key4 as far as I am aware and they are both frequently used by ISVs to avoid Key0 for the reasons stated earlier. There is nothing to stop in-house code from using these keys either. Rob Scott Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: 25 March 2010 15:13 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 Key2 and key4 are flagged in the Diag guide as reserved. I presume they are flagged as reserved for some vendor(IBM or OTHER) reason. Can anyone enlighten me? snip A frequant usage for this sort of thing is either Key2 or Key4. If you store information in the Key2/Key4 block using MVCDK with the correct key in R1, then you can reduce the likelyhood of storage overlays even if your pgm is running Sup+Key0. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Subpools - specifically 241
Ladies and Gents, She needs read access to this storage from unauthorized key 8/9 programs... the storage must be allocated in key 0. Tony Lubrano Product Author NEON Enterprise Software, LLC. p: 281 207 4922 f: 281 207 4973 tony.lubr...@neon.com What is zPrime? Find out at www.zprime.com or just ask us! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 I believe that IBM used to use Key2 for some purpose years ago, but this is no longer the case. Key4 has never been assigned an offical IBM usage. There is no hands off for Key2 or Key4 as far as I am aware and they are both frequently used by ISVs to avoid Key0 for the reasons stated earlier. There is nothing to stop in-house code from using these keys either. Rob Scott Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: 25 March 2010 15:13 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 Key2 and key4 are flagged in the Diag guide as reserved. I presume they are flagged as reserved for some vendor(IBM or OTHER) reason. Can anyone enlighten me? snip A frequant usage for this sort of thing is either Key2 or Key4. If you store information in the Key2/Key4 block using MVCDK with the correct key in R1, then you can reduce the likelyhood of storage overlays even if your pgm is running Sup+Key0. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: reply from Listserv
In a message dated 3/25/2010 10:26:58 A.M. Central Daylight Time, charles.har...@ca.com writes: Do you have ANYTHING else in your message body? A signature perhaps. The body, as far as I know must contain nothing but the instruction. Guess you could try the web page url to change delivery options. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: reply from Listserv
Why are the Chinese(?) characters in your email? If possible, you should remove all the junk that is at the bottom of most emails (like my Confidentiality Notice that legal requires me to have. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets? 9151 Boulevard 26 ? N. Richland Hills ? TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone ? (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com ? www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets? is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. �CThe Chesapeake Life Insurance Company?, Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Walter Marguccio Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: OT: reply from Listserv sorry if this is not a mainframe related topic. I need t Hello list, sorry if this is not a mainframe related topic. I need to temporarily quit receiving e-mail from ibm-main. If I send an e-mail to lists...@bama.ua.edu with 'SET IBM-MAIN NOMAIL' in the body of the message, I keep getting the message below as reply: 烧再瘀 Unknown command - 烧再兄. Try HELP. Is there a problem with the listserv ? Best regards Valter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SQL Server replacement
This is a loaded question. The simply answer is it depends. 1) it depends on what platform you are talking about. Is it z\OS or USS (Linux on the IBM Iron horse) 2) Then it depends on what the DBMS is supporting. Is it a transaction based application where response time is important, is it a query type of application? 3) What kind of infrastructure do you have in place right now. Are you already running DB2 or Oracle or IMS etc. 4) And finally, but no less important is why the change. Is it because of reliability? Cost? DR or what. Once these questions are asked/answered you can get a better idea on where to go from here Hope this helps and if you want you can contact me off line Robert Galambos CIPP/C CIPP/IT Compuware Senior Technical Specialist IBM Certified Database Associate IBM Certified DB2 9 for z/OS Database Administration Certified Information Privacy Professional/Canada Certified Information Privacy Professional/Information Technology robert.galam...@compuware.com Tel: +1 905 886 7000 Toll Free: +1 800 263 7189 Fax: +1 905 886 7023 Quebec: +1 877-281-1888 Le contenu de ce courriel s'adresse au destinataire seulement. Il contient de l'information pouvant être confidentielle. Vous ne devez ni le copier ni l'utiliser ni le divulguer à qui que ce soit à moins que vous soyez le destinataire ou une personne désignée autorisée. Si vous le receviez par erreur, veuillez nous aviser immédiatement et le détruire. The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it. Service in every product... Les renseignements contenus dans le présent message électronique sont confidentiels et concernent exclusivement le(s) destinataire(s) désigné(s). Il est strictement interdit de distribuer ou de copier ce message. Si vous avez reçu ce message par erreur, veuillez répondre par courriel à l'expéditeur et effacer ou détruire toutes les copies du présent message. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: March 25, 2010 9:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SQL Server replacement I am way out of my element on this topic, so I thought I'd post this query: If we were looking to replace Microsoft's SQL Server with something on System z, what would my options be and how much effort would be required to move it there? Bob - Robert B. Richards(Bob) US Office of Personnel Management 1900 E Street NW Room: BH04L Washington, D.C. 20415 Phone: (202) 606-1195 Email: robert.richa...@opm.govmailto:robert.richa...@opm.gov - -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Subpools - specifically 241
Tony As long as not in fetch-protected storage - what is to stop Key8/9 program from reading Key2/Key4 common storage ? My product actually depends on this as all my client code runs Key8 and all of the server anchors are in Key4. Rob Scott Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tony Lubrano Sent: 25 March 2010 15:30 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 Ladies and Gents, She needs read access to this storage from unauthorized key 8/9 programs... the storage must be allocated in key 0. Tony Lubrano Product Author NEON Enterprise Software, LLC. p: 281 207 4922 f: 281 207 4973 tony.lubr...@neon.com What is zPrime? Find out at www.zprime.com or just ask us! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 I believe that IBM used to use Key2 for some purpose years ago, but this is no longer the case. Key4 has never been assigned an offical IBM usage. There is no hands off for Key2 or Key4 as far as I am aware and they are both frequently used by ISVs to avoid Key0 for the reasons stated earlier. There is nothing to stop in-house code from using these keys either. Rob Scott Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: 25 March 2010 15:13 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 Key2 and key4 are flagged in the Diag guide as reserved. I presume they are flagged as reserved for some vendor(IBM or OTHER) reason. Can anyone enlighten me? snip A frequant usage for this sort of thing is either Key2 or Key4. If you store information in the Key2/Key4 block using MVCDK with the correct key in R1, then you can reduce the likelyhood of storage overlays even if your pgm is running Sup+Key0. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: reply from Listserv
I just sent GET IBM-MAIN INFO to the listserv and it worked just fine. I tried that, too, but I get the same reply with japanese chars. Do you have ANYTHING else in your message body? A signature perhaps. The body, as far as I know must contain nothing but the instruction. Let put it like this: I don't read ANYTHING in the body of the message, but can't tell if there is ANYTHING else. What is also weird, is that my reply to ibm-main contain two lines at the top of the mail which I didn't write, and seems like a broken sentence. I issued the same command, with the same syntax, for the RACF-L list, and that worked. I really have no idea about what's going on. Valter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: reply from Listserv
Could your mail server be adding something to the email as it goes out? The body must be empty as far as I know. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Walter Marguccio Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: reply from Listserv I just sent GET IBM-MAIN INFO to the listserv and it worked just fine. I tried that, too, but I get the same reply with japanese chars. Do you have ANYTHING else in your message body? A signature perhaps. The body, as far as I know must contain nothing but the instruction. Let put it like this: I don't read ANYTHING in the body of the message, but can't tell if there is ANYTHING else. What is also weird, is that my reply to ibm-main contain two lines at the top of the mail which I didn't write, and seems like a broken sentence. I issued the same command, with the same syntax, for the RACF-L list, and that worked. I really have no idea about what's going on. Valter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Add column values with SORT
Hi team, This time i have to create a SORT job which sum the field of a PS dataset. I mean, this is the input data 2010-03-17 09:44:140.00 744.00 146.887009 162.00 0.000 2010-03-17 10:01:030.00 742.00 156.462433 156.00 0.000 2010-03-17 10:17:520.00 1242.00 155.867966 159.00 0.000 2010-03-17 10:34:410.00 1414.00 163.171097 176.00 0.000 2010-03-17 10:51:300.00 748.75 168.400101 161.25 0.000 2010-03-17 11:08:190.00 1400.00 167.822357 143.25 0.000 2010-03-17 11:25:080.00 1384.00 110.168564 147.00 0.000 2010-03-17 11:41:570.00 1462.00 153.097290 172.00 0.000 2010-03-17 11:58:460.00 1440.00 145.340210 135.50 0.000 2010-03-17 12:15:350.009720 1420.00 120.565773 144.00 0.000 2010-03-17 12:32:240.003211 1438.00 154.119431 109.539139 0.000 2010-03-17 12:49:130.00 881.611389 92.626503 134.25 0.000 2010-03-17 13:06:02 10.398916 728.75 143.719650 115.976562 0.000 2010-03-17 13:22:510.00 721.25 164.00 139.725220 0.000 2010-03-17 13:39:400.00 189.856262 130.610764 149.106537 0.000 The output must be to add the values from each column -xx-xx xx:xx:xx10.411847 15956.217651 2172.859148 2204.597458 0.00 Can this be done with SORT/ICETOOL? Which statements to use? Thanks a lot in advance, Enrique Montero -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Subpools - specifically 241
Agreed... You are correct... she could allocate in another key. Tony Lubrano Product Author NEON Enterprise Software, LLC. p: 281 207 4922 f: 281 207 4973 tony.lubr...@neon.com What is zPrime? Find out at www.zprime.com or just ask us! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 Tony As long as not in fetch-protected storage - what is to stop Key8/9 program from reading Key2/Key4 common storage ? My product actually depends on this as all my client code runs Key8 and all of the server anchors are in Key4. Rob Scott Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tony Lubrano Sent: 25 March 2010 15:30 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 Ladies and Gents, She needs read access to this storage from unauthorized key 8/9 programs... the storage must be allocated in key 0. Tony Lubrano Product Author NEON Enterprise Software, LLC. p: 281 207 4922 f: 281 207 4973 tony.lubr...@neon.com What is zPrime? Find out at www.zprime.com or just ask us! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 I believe that IBM used to use Key2 for some purpose years ago, but this is no longer the case. Key4 has never been assigned an offical IBM usage. There is no hands off for Key2 or Key4 as far as I am aware and they are both frequently used by ISVs to avoid Key0 for the reasons stated earlier. There is nothing to stop in-house code from using these keys either. Rob Scott Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: 25 March 2010 15:13 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 Key2 and key4 are flagged in the Diag guide as reserved. I presume they are flagged as reserved for some vendor(IBM or OTHER) reason. Can anyone enlighten me? snip A frequant usage for this sort of thing is either Key2 or Key4. If you store information in the Key2/Key4 block using MVCDK with the correct key in R1, then you can reduce the likelyhood of storage overlays even if your pgm is running Sup+Key0. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: reply from Listserv
Guess you could try the web page url to change delivery options. I did it from the web page, hope it worked.Thanks! Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Add column values with SORT
The SUM control statement will do the job. Please take a look at DFSORT Application Programming Guide for further options. I might recommend you to take a look at http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=114uid=isg3T794 In the document there you may find useful tips and tricks for using ICEMAN/ICETOOL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Subpools - specifically 241
I recently used a CSA subpool in a user key and I got yelled at From respondents to my problem On the forum The reason I did it was Front ended ATTACH svc 42 And I remember that the JES initiator Does an ATTACH to the problem Program the address of the entry point Name is a The initator subpool which is CSA but has to be KEY 8 Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Tony Lubrano tony.lubr...@neon.com wrote: Agreed... You are correct... she could allocate in another key. Tony Lubrano Product Author NEON Enterprise Software, LLC. p: 281 207 4922 f: 281 207 4973 tony.lubr...@neon.com What is zPrime? Find out at www.zprime.com or just ask us! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 Tony As long as not in fetch-protected storage - what is to stop Key8/9 program from reading Key2/Key4 common storage ? My product actually depends on this as all my client code runs Key8 and all of the server anchors are in Key4. Rob Scott Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tony Lubrano Sent: 25 March 2010 15:30 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 Ladies and Gents, She needs read access to this storage from unauthorized key 8/9 programs... the storage must be allocated in key 0. Tony Lubrano Product Author NEON Enterprise Software, LLC. p: 281 207 4922 f: 281 207 4973 tony.lubr...@neon.com What is zPrime? Find out at www.zprime.com or just ask us! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 I believe that IBM used to use Key2 for some purpose years ago, but this is no longer the case. Key4 has never been assigned an offical IBM usage. There is no hands off for Key2 or Key4 as far as I am aware and they are both frequently used by ISVs to avoid Key0 for the reasons stated earlier. There is nothing to stop in-house code from using these keys either. Rob Scott Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: 25 March 2010 15:13 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 Key2 and key4 are flagged in the Diag guide as reserved. I presume they are flagged as reserved for some vendor(IBM or OTHER) reason. Can anyone enlighten me? snip A frequant usage for this sort of thing is either Key2 or Key4. If you store information in the Key2/Key4 block using MVCDK with the correct key in R1, then you can reduce the likelyhood of storage overlays even if your pgm is running Sup+Key0. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
GET INFO
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Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?
I've recently returned from vacation and missed much of this thread, so I apologize if I'm about to bring up a point that's already been discussed. However, I have to respond to the email below that contains the following statement: I agree that a new z/OS user interface is a waste if it ends up leaving ISPF hanging around for whatever function that was not or could not have been included. I also think that a new user interface for z/OS is absolutely needed if z/OS is really going to take root with the kids who IBM is trying desperately to convert. I agree with this statement completely. IMO one of the big drawbacks of moving development from the mainframe to PC is that it almost always leaves tools or processes that still require people to logon to the mainframe. This can offset many of the advantages of moving to the PC and lead to more complex development and testing environments. Not to mention the massive cost of acquiring and maintaining distributed desktop tools and training people how to use them. OTOH, continuing to use the regular ISPF interface isn't much of an option either. Productivity is the key to success and the only way to increase the standard of living. Asking the point-and-shoot generation to navigate command driven ISPF panels is like throwing money out the window, and does nothing to promote the mainframe or attract new talent. IMO, the ideal compromise is to use tools like IPT (from IBM) and SimpList (from MacKinney). Full disclosure, I'm one of the SimpList developers. These tools run on the mainframe, which means there's no need to keep switching back and forth between the mainframe and PC. Anyone who knows how to use ISPF option 3.4 can use IPT and SimpList with no training required, and there's no cost of licensing and maintaining distributed tools. IPT and SimpList run on the mainframe and therefore have character based interfaces. However, they employ the same concepts as PC/workstation tools. For example, data sets and DB2 tables and PC/workstation files (etc) can all be 'bookmarked' in lists of favorites and clicked to select. The appropriate tool or vendor product opens automatically, with no need to navigate between different panels and vendor products. Data set names appearing anywhere on any panel can be clicked to open, just like clicking hyperlinks on web pages. Mainframe files can be browsed/edited/printed (etc) on a PC/workstation, and PC/workstation files can be browsed/edited/printed (etc) on a mainframe. The list of features goes on and on, and the productivity advantages of using these tools is HUGE. I know I have a biased opinion, but I can't help but feel that any company that hasn't evaluated these tools is doing themselves a great disservice. Dave Salt SimpList(tm) - try it; you'll get it! http://www.mackinney.com/products/program-development/simplist.html Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 09:12:37 -0400 From: scott.har...@embarqmail.com Subject: Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project? To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of clementcla...@ozemail.com.au Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project? Charles Mills wrote: I think Chris has hit the nail on the head with regard to the viability of this idea as a product of some sort. (As a personal project -- that's a different matter.) Most mainframers (however that term might be defined) are familiar with TSO and ISPF. There would be a learning curve to use this new product. Some; but not much, if designed properly. I think we mainframers understand how to use a well designed GUI and, in fact, have had to tech ourselves how to use more than our share of poorly designed GUI's. ;-) I think that one major issue, however, is the sheer enormity of the project we speak of. I agree that a new z/OS user interface is a waste if it ends up leaving ISPF hanging around for whatever function that was not or could not have been included. I also think that a new user interface for z/OS is absolutely needed if z/OS is really going to take root with the kids who IBM is trying desperately to convert via their Academic Initiative (which I fully support, btw). There will, obviously, be some overlap but it needs to be kept to a minimum. Bring it on, IBM. All the best, Scott T. Harder Mainframe Services, Inc. Naples, FL snippage -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html _ Check your
Re: Subpools - specifically 241
On 25 March 2010 10:05, GOODWIN, DIANE M. dgood...@amica.com wrote: I have been trying to find info on how to use the subpools - but it seems like 2 pages in one manual and then 3 in another. Does anyone know if there is a someplace I can find information on how to use this properly? Things like - what state does the program need to be in - problem or supervisor? Any other gotchas like that. The whole notion of subpools has a lot of historical baggage. The default subpool is 0. For subpools 0 and 1-127, the subpool number is pretty much used only to organize storage, and to allow the freeing of all storage in a given subpool with one call to FREEMAIN or STORAGE RELEASE. For higher number subpools, the number carries additional information, which in some cases can also be specified directly on the GETMAIN or STORAGE OBTAIN. For example, subpool 241 is always in common storage (CSA), and by default has the caller's key, but you can specify the key you want on the request. There are unexpected subtleties and oddities - for instance if a caller in supervisor state and key 0 requests subpool 0, instead storage of subpool 252 is assigned. Keep in mind that it is also possible to modify certain attributes of your storage after you have obtained it from the system. The best reference for subpools is in the MVS Diagnosis Reference, in the section System Reference-Storage Summary-Storage Subpools. There is a chart, and a set of useful notes, including one on how storage keys relate to the caller's PSW key. The number of footnotes gives you an idea of how many oddities there are. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WEB based Host explorer products
Can you be a little bit more specific ? What do you intend to do ? Publish existing application via WEB or develop WEB applications to access z data ? Wouldn't Host Publisher fit your needs ? http://www-01.ibm.com/software/webservers/hostpublisher/library/publications/guide40/guide03.htm -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Subpools - specifically 241
On 25 March 2010 11:13, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbm1.com wrote: Key2 and key4 are flagged in the Diag guide as reserved. I presume they are flagged as reserved for some vendor(IBM or OTHER) reason. Can anyone enlighten me? I have noticed that the UNIX shared memory services treat key 2 as something special, but it's not clear what it's for. For example, the caller of the BPXxMGT shmget() service must have PSW key 2, 8, or 9, and there is some different behaviour for key 2 callers. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Subpools - specifically 241
Joe, Maybe your iPhone scrambled some of your message as I am not 100% sure I understand what you typed - however : User Key when used as a no-no in CSA terms is a storage key that allows a problem state program in Key8/9 to alter the storage contents. This is not to be confused with a non-zero key (1-7) that is available for use by non-problem state callers. If you have to front-end ATTACH, then there are much better ways to achieve what you want rather than obtaining Key8 CSA. Rob Scott Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Joe Reichman Sent: 25 March 2010 16:17 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 I recently used a CSA subpool in a user key and I got yelled at From respondents to my problem On the forum The reason I did it was Front ended ATTACH svc 42 And I remember that the JES initiator Does an ATTACH to the problem Program the address of the entry point Name is a The initator subpool which is CSA but has to be KEY 8 Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Tony Lubrano tony.lubr...@neon.com wrote: Agreed... You are correct... she could allocate in another key. Tony Lubrano Product Author NEON Enterprise Software, LLC. p: 281 207 4922 f: 281 207 4973 tony.lubr...@neon.com What is zPrime? Find out at www.zprime.com or just ask us! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 Tony As long as not in fetch-protected storage - what is to stop Key8/9 program from reading Key2/Key4 common storage ? My product actually depends on this as all my client code runs Key8 and all of the server anchors are in Key4. Rob Scott Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tony Lubrano Sent: 25 March 2010 15:30 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 Ladies and Gents, She needs read access to this storage from unauthorized key 8/9 programs... the storage must be allocated in key 0. Tony Lubrano Product Author NEON Enterprise Software, LLC. p: 281 207 4922 f: 281 207 4973 tony.lubr...@neon.com What is zPrime? Find out at www.zprime.com or just ask us! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 I believe that IBM used to use Key2 for some purpose years ago, but this is no longer the case. Key4 has never been assigned an offical IBM usage. There is no hands off for Key2 or Key4 as far as I am aware and they are both frequently used by ISVs to avoid Key0 for the reasons stated earlier. There is nothing to stop in-house code from using these keys either. Rob Scott Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: 25 March 2010 15:13 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 Key2 and key4 are flagged in the Diag guide as reserved. I presume they are flagged as reserved for some vendor(IBM or OTHER) reason. Can anyone enlighten me? snip A frequant usage for this sort of thing is either Key2 or Key4. If you store information in the Key2/Key4 block using MVCDK with the correct key in R1, then you can reduce the likelyhood of storage overlays even if your pgm is running Sup+Key0. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: AMATERSE: AMA574I. Wrong message?
On 24 March 2010 13:32, Yifat Oren yi...@tmachine.com wrote: Hi, I have recieved some TERSED SMF records and am unable to UNPACK them. SNIP AMA574I RECORD FOUND IS LONGER THAN THE LRECL AMA555I THE VALUES ARE: BLKSIZE= 8760 LRECL=8756 PACKTYPE=PACK Yifat, When you say you 'received' some tersed SMF records, was this file perhaps FTP'ed to you? I have seen this message in the past when a file was tersed, then FTP'ed to another site. Make sure when the file is FTP'ed, to include STRUCTURE R ,this corrected the problem for us. Dana -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Subpools - specifically 241
If you have access to a sandbox LPAR, and take the time to read the appropriate manuals before running something, I think it is worth trying. Sadly the knowledge transfer of this sort of expertise is disappearing, so I don't think we should issue blanket discouragement to those who express an interest in this sort of learning. === Wayne Driscoll OMEGAMON DB2 L3 Support/Development wdrisco(AT)us.ibm.com === From: Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 03/25/2010 09:59 AM Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu I was wondering if anyone is using subpool 241 in their processing. I had an earlier thread about using subpool 241 with a key of 9. Based on the info I have read and some of you have given me, I'm thinking of trying to still use subpool 241 but with a key of 0. I have been trying to find info on how to use the subpools - but it seems like 2 pages in one manual and then 3 in another. Does anyone know if there is a someplace I can find information on how to use this properly? Things like - what state does the program need to be in - problem or supervisor? Any other gotchas like that. Thanks in advance for your time. At the risk of being a grinch, you should consider hiring someone to write the code you need. This is not the place for trial and error. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Add column values with SORT
Enrique Montero IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 03/25/2010 08:42:49 AM: This time i have to create a SORT job which sum the field of a PS dataset. ... The output must be to add the values from each column -xx-xx xx:xx:xx10.411847 15956.217651 2172.859148 ... Can this be done with SORT/ICETOOL? Which statements to use? You can use an DFSORT OUTFIL statement with TRAILER1 to get the totals. Something like this: OPTION COPY OUTFIL REMOVECC,NODETAIL, TRAILER1=(22:TOT=(21,12,UFF,EDIT=(T.TT)), 35:TOT=(34,12,UFF,EDIT=(T.TT)), ... I wasn't sure where your fields started or how long they were, so I just guessed for a couple of them. Adjust as necessary. Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Development Team (IBM) - yae...@us.ibm.com Specialties: JOINKEYS, FINDREP, WHEN=GROUP, ICETOOL, Symbols, Migration = DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Add column values with SORT
Luis Andrade IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 03/25/2010 09:15:24 AM: The SUM control statement will do the job. Please take a look at DFSORT Application Programming Guide for further options. I might recommend you to take a look at http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=114uid=isg3T794 In the document there you may find useful tips and tricks for using ICEMAN/ICETOOL Actually, SUM won't work directly for values such as 10.398916 because of the decimal point since those are NOT valid ZD values. You could use UFF to convert them to ZD and then SUM them and convert them back to values with decimal places. But in this case it's easier to use TRAILER1 with TOT for the UFF values directly as shown in my previous post. Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Development Team (IBM) - yae...@us.ibm.com Specialties: JOINKEYS, FINDREP, WHEN=GROUP, ICETOOL, Symbols, Migration = DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Subpools - specifically 241
Thanks, Wayne. I do have a sandbox LPAR and will be trying it out. then we have a monthly ERO type test and that will be the REAL test because then I'll have the applications and data for them out there. But I will be giving it a shot in the sandbox to see if I can get the area acquired and my region up and running. Also, thanks to all of you that have taken time to respond. I really do appreciate it. The manuals keep you hoping from one to another then back. Sometimes a person with an understanding of the pieces is just needed to explain it a bit to make it all click into place. Thanks for bearing with me on this one, folks. I will have to say you folks on this list are as good as the CICS list -- well almost... wink, nudge THANKS!! Diane M. Goodwin IT System Adminstration Specialist Amica Insurance Company I'm not a cynic. I'm a disappointed optimist. - George Carlin -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Wayne Driscoll Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 If you have access to a sandbox LPAR, and take the time to read the appropriate manuals before running something, I think it is worth trying. Sadly the knowledge transfer of this sort of expertise is disappearing, so I don't think we should issue blanket discouragement to those who express an interest in this sort of learning. === Wayne Driscoll OMEGAMON DB2 L3 Support/Development wdrisco(AT)us.ibm.com === From: Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 03/25/2010 09:59 AM Subject: Re: Subpools - specifically 241 Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu I was wondering if anyone is using subpool 241 in their processing. I had an earlier thread about using subpool 241 with a key of 9. Based on the info I have read and some of you have given me, I'm thinking of trying to still use subpool 241 but with a key of 0. I have been trying to find info on how to use the subpools - but it seems like 2 pages in one manual and then 3 in another. Does anyone know if there is a someplace I can find information on how to use this properly? Things like - what state does the program need to be in - problem or supervisor? Any other gotchas like that. Thanks in advance for your time. At the risk of being a grinch, you should consider hiring someone to write the code you need. This is not the place for trial and error. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is there a way to execute the same non-CICS DB2 COBOL program in both batch and online?
hi Steve, The problem we have in our Endevor setup is that such a processor group is not setup which will have two link-edit steps to write to two different load modules. Is such a processor group available by defult in CA-Endevor or has to be customised? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Subpools - specifically 241
On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 11:26 -0400, Rob Scott wrote: IBM used to use Key2 for some purpose years ago It was used for VSPC, I think. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. david.andr...@duda.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
REQUEST=FASTAUTH exit routine: any experience with the ICHRFXyy exit's complex environmental conditions?
hi all, thanks to all for replying on my last question. i would have one further: if you read the environmental conditions of the ICHRFXyy FASTAUTH exits, it seems to be a tough job to escape in an environment that allows you to perform some critical activity requiring authorization and similar. the book says: Its running environment offers limited function as indicated in the following list: The execution key is unpredictable. The exit might receive control in either supervisor or problem state. The exit might or might not be given control APF-authorized. The exit might be given control in SRB mode; that is, the REQUEST=FASTAUTH might have been issued by a caller running as an SRB. The exit should not issue any SVCs. The exit routine might be given control in either 24- or 31-bit mode. does anybody have experience in programming ICHRFXyy exits, or knows any alternative? many thanks! best stephen --- Dr. Stephen Fedtke Enterprise-IT-Security.com Seestrasse 3a CH-6300 Zug Switzerland Tel. ++41-(0)41-710-4005 www.enterprise-it-security.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to recatalog to a different master catalog?
Jousma, David wrote: Maybe I missed it, but I would have to question *why* migrate to a new master catalog. If it is for a z/OS upgrade, it is not necessary. Use indirect cataloging, eliminates a lot of extra work, especially if you user a mod-9 or larger volume for your sysres, and keep everything on one volume. snip What he said. Except, of course, you can use more than one volume and still use indirect cataloging by using system symbols, simply by keeping all the data sets on volumes in the same sequence in the volume set from release to release. Reusing a saved ServerPac configuration should make this a snap. I might never understand why people think they need or even want a new master catalog (or new page data sets, or...) for a new level of software. -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SQL Server replacement
Robert, of course it was a loaded question. But it was also general in nature. I asked about System z alternatives. System z implies z/OS, USS and Linux on z (under z/VM here). I got the answer I was looking for. In-house discussions will reveal the additional details that you asked about but are unknown at this time. Once they are available and if needed, I'll come back to the list and ask further questions. For now, the high level answers were sufficient. :-) Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Galambos, Robert Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SQL Server replacement This is a loaded question. The simply answer is it depends. 1) it depends on what platform you are talking about. Is it z\OS or USS (Linux on the IBM Iron horse) 2) Then it depends on what the DBMS is supporting. Is it a transaction based application where response time is important, is it a query type of application? 3) What kind of infrastructure do you have in place right now. Are you already running DB2 or Oracle or IMS etc. 4) And finally, but no less important is why the change. Is it because of reliability? Cost? DR or what. Once these questions are asked/answered you can get a better idea on where to go from here Hope this helps and if you want you can contact me off line Robert Galambos CIPP/C CIPP/IT -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: March 25, 2010 9:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SQL Server replacement I am way out of my element on this topic, so I thought I'd post this query: If we were looking to replace Microsoft's SQL Server with something on System z, what would my options be and how much effort would be required to move it there? Bob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
ISPF list/SCLM help
Any SCLM folks out there. Or is there a ISPF list as SCLM is part of ISPF I have an issue with the SCLM audit files that need purging of old records. IBM SCLM suggested that I use a sample of a REXX program to delete old records(ISP.SISPSAMP(FLMSVERD). As usual, the SCLM pub and sample is not helping me. John Norgauer Senior Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Services University of California Davis Medical Center 2315 Stockton Blvd ASB 1300 Sacramento, Ca 95817 916-734-0536 SYSTEMS PROGRAMMING.. Guilty, until proven innocent !! JN 2004 Hardware eventually breaks - Software eventually works anon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to recatalog to a different master catalog?
John Eells wrote: I might never understand why people think they need or even want a new master catalog (or new page data sets, or...) for a new level of software. Maybe it is just a case/opportunity to apply some new naming standards for catalog/page/SMF/IODF/etc datasets? Such changes are easiest to apply during upgrades (ie during downtime) Anyway, just my speculative opinion... Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: REQUEST=FASTAUTH exit routine: any experience with the ICHRFXyy exit's complex environmental conditions?
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:40:03 +0100 Dr. Stephen Fedtke max_mainframe_...@fedtke.com wrote: :if you read the environmental conditions of the ICHRFXyy FASTAUTH exits, it :seems to be a tough job to escape in an environment that allows you to :perform some critical activity requiring authorization and similar. the book :says: : :Its running environment offers limited function as indicated in the :following list: :The execution key is unpredictable. :The exit might receive control in either supervisor or problem state. :The exit might or might not be given control APF-authorized. :The exit might be given control in SRB mode; that is, the REQUEST=FASTAUTH :might have been issued by a caller running as an SRB. :The exit should not issue any SVCs. :The exit routine might be given control in either 24- or 31-bit mode. : :does anybody have experience in programming ICHRFXyy exits, or knows any :alternative? Why do you need this exit? If you know which resource, it may be that you are always called unlocked in TCB mode so no special considerations are required. -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISPF list/SCLM help
Try the Yahoo group: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SCLM/ HTH and good luck. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Norgauer Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: ISPF list/SCLM help Any SCLM folks out there. Or is there a ISPF list as SCLM is part of ISPF I have an issue with the SCLM audit files that need purging of old records. IBM SCLM suggested that I use a sample of a REXX program to delete old records(ISP.SISPSAMP(FLMSVERD). As usual, the SCLM pub and sample is not helping me. John Norgauer Senior Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Services University of California Davis Medical Center 2315 Stockton Blvd ASB 1300 Sacramento, Ca 95817 916-734-0536 SYSTEMS PROGRAMMING.. Guilty, until proven innocent !! JN 2004 Hardware eventually breaks - Software eventually works anon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to recatalog to a different master catalog?
Jousma, David wrote: Maybe I missed it, but I would have to question *why* migrate to a new master catalog. If it is for a z/OS upgrade, it is not necessary. Use indirect cataloging, eliminates a lot of extra work, especially if you user a mod-9 or larger volume for your sysres, and keep everything on one volume. snip I might never understand why people think they need or even want a new master catalog (or new page data sets, or...) for a new level of software. We use it as an opportunity to clean out all the junk (among other things). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to recatalog to a different master catalog?
Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: John Eells wrote: I might never understand why people think they need or even want a new master catalog (or new page data sets, or...) for a new level of software. Maybe it is just a case/opportunity to apply some new naming standards for catalog/page/SMF/IODF/etc datasets? Such changes are easiest to apply during upgrades (ie during downtime) Anyway, just my speculative opinion... Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht snip I should have said, every time they migrate to a new level of software. I would expect naming standards to be rather more durable than that. -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Subpools - specifically 241
It was used for VSPC, I think. Correct. I just checked a SAS Macro I've had for 30+ years, and that's what it said. Mind you, I have no experience with it, so I don't know what VSPC is. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SQL Server replacement
It would be interesting (to me, anyway) to hear how this goes. Please keep us posted. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SQL Server replacement Robert, of course it was a loaded question. But it was also general in nature. I asked about System z alternatives. System z implies z/OS, USS and Linux on z (under z/VM here). I got the answer I was looking for. In-house discussions will reveal the additional details that you asked about but are unknown at this time. Once they are available and if needed, I'll come back to the list and ask further questions. For now, the high level answers were sufficient. :-) Bob NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Subpools - specifically 241
eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) writes: Mind you, I have no experience with it, so I don't know what VSPC is. originally called PCO (personal computing option) ... something for VS1. the name got changed when they pointed out that PCO already referred to something outside the US. In the very early days of VM370/CMS ... there was a whole lot of smoke and churn between PCO CMS ... PCO group constantly claiming that PCO thruput was much, much better than CMS ... this frequently tied up the (small) CMS development into knots for extended period of time ... doing benchmarks showing CMS numbers for comparable activity (when they should have been doing development). So it eventually comes out that the PCO numbers were being generated by somebody that had written a PCO model ... and when PCO was actually operational ... it turned out that the model was predicting something nearly ten times faster than actual measured numbers. misc. past posts mentioning PCO /or VS/PC http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#1 Computer of the century http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001f.html#49 any 70's era supercomputers that ran as slow as today's supercompu http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001i.html#30 IBM OS Timeline? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002h.html#51 Why did OSI fail compared with TCP-IP? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#26 LISTSERV Discussion List For USS Questions? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003k.html#0 VSPC http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004.html#4 TSS/370 source archive now available http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#38 storage key question http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#19 HASP/ASP JES/JES2/JES3 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#8 vmshare -- 42yrs virtualization experience (since Jan68), online at home since Mar1970 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to recatalog to a different master catalog?
I believe that getting a SHCDS cataloged in a MCAT may not be too difficult. It is my understanding that the VARY SMS,SHCDS command initiates a process in the SMSVSAM address space that results in the specified SHCDS being recatalogued if it is discovered to be uncatalogued in the active MCAT. See page 253 (chapter 15) in DFsms Storage Administration (SC26-7402-13) for more information. *SOLVED* Thanks for everyone's input. IBM says their documentation on this is incorrect. ALTER authority is now required on the mcat in order for SMSVSAM to recatalog the SHCSDS. I'll recatalog them myself and call it good. Thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to recatalog to a different master catalog?
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:49:50 -0400, John Eells ee...@us.ibm.com wrote: I might never understand why people think they need or even want a new master catalog (or new page data sets, or...) for a new level of software. It's not a good reason, but history. Prior to the days where you could share the master catalog (MVS/ESA V5) is was typical to create a new master catalog when you built a new software level. Old habits die hard I guess. MVS/ESA V5 was the last time I created a new master catalog at every client / shop I've been at with the exception of a few I created to remove IMBED and REPLICATE. If I had only known all those years ago that I never was going to need to do that. :-) Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS mailto:mzel...@flash.net Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any tools for managing z/OS system software products inventory?
In 4ba89977.7060...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 03/23/2010 at 11:35 AM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said: In either case there are DOCUMENTS. If you're lucky. Somewhere. The documents are not retired, fired, died. Just lost, misfiled or taken away. We're not talikng about group of PFCSK and bunch of PCs for gaming, we're talking about professional team. Yeah, right. Lots of shops fail to document what they should and fail to transmit institutional history to new hires. The team can only be as professional as management permits. The list is naturally audited during every system upgrade. That's a good theory, but it matches neither my experience nor the messages that I've seen on this list. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Call for XEDIT freaks, submit ISPF requirements
In 69c368d41003230627q4985ff9dh4bc8f218ad0f0...@mail.gmail.com, on 03/23/2010 at 09:27 AM, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com said: Can anyone point me at something that would allow me to write macro that runs from the prefix area - xedit term - where the line is target of the macro? Is that enough, or do you need an equivalent of SET PENDING? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
PFA Errors
I am installing z/os V1.11. I am receiving several errors with PFA. Error message manual gives me no clue how to fix these. Any help would be appreciated. AIR003I PFA UNABLE TO REGISTER ELEMENT AIR_TEST0026 WITH ARM. RC=000C, RSN=0160 AIR022I REQUEST TO INVOKE MODELING FAILED FOR CHECK NAME= PFA_MESSAGE_ARRIVAL_RATE UNIX SIGNAL RECEIVED= EXIT VALUE= 0006 Thank You -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Re: PFA Errors
Check the archives There has been a thread this week on the same subject. ISTR, a UNIX directory needs to be defined... HTH, snip I am installing z/os V1.11. I am receiving several errors with PFA. Error message manual gives me no clue how to fix these. Any help would be appreciated. AIR003I PFA UNABLE TO REGISTER ELEMENT AIR_TEST0026 WITH ARM. RC=000C, RSN=0160 AIR022I REQUEST TO INVOKE MODELING FAILED FOR CHECK NAME= PFA_MESSAGE_ARRIVAL_RATE UNIX SIGNAL RECEIVED= EXIT VALUE= 0006 /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PFA Errors
The directory has been created and the installation job was executed. Thank You -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: PFA Errors Check the archives There has been a thread this week on the same subject. ISTR, a UNIX directory needs to be defined... HTH, snip I am installing z/os V1.11. I am receiving several errors with PFA. Error message manual gives me no clue how to fix these. Any help would be appreciated. AIR003I PFA UNABLE TO REGISTER ELEMENT AIR_TEST0026 WITH ARM. RC=000C, RSN=0160 AIR022I REQUEST TO INVOKE MODELING FAILED FOR CHECK NAME= PFA_MESSAGE_ARRIVAL_RATE UNIX SIGNAL RECEIVED= EXIT VALUE= 0006 /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PFA Errors
Found out what was wrong - no ARM couple datasets. I don't think I need this function I am not SYSPLEX and I don't need any automatic restarts of tasks. Thank You -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Steely Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: PFA Errors The directory has been created and the installation job was executed. Thank You -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: PFA Errors Check the archives There has been a thread this week on the same subject. ISTR, a UNIX directory needs to be defined... HTH, snip I am installing z/os V1.11. I am receiving several errors with PFA. Error message manual gives me no clue how to fix these. Any help would be appreciated. AIR003I PFA UNABLE TO REGISTER ELEMENT AIR_TEST0026 WITH ARM. RC=000C, RSN=0160 AIR022I REQUEST TO INVOKE MODELING FAILED FOR CHECK NAME= PFA_MESSAGE_ARRIVAL_RATE UNIX SIGNAL RECEIVED= EXIT VALUE= 0006 /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SQL Server replacement
I have heard of IFL's for zLinux and DB/2 running under zLinux. We have DB/2 running on z/OS and also DB/2 connect on the distributed side and it is used to access DB/2 on the mainframe. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SQL Server replacement I am way out of my element on this topic, so I thought I'd post this query: If we were looking to replace Microsoft's SQL Server with something on System z, what would my options be and how much effort would be required to move it there? Bob - Robert B. Richards(Bob) US Office of Personnel Management 1900 E Street NW Room: BH04L Washington, D.C. 20415 Phone: (202) 606-1195 Email: robert.richa...@opm.govmailto:robert.richa...@opm.gov - -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html == This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
